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OK. I got up for a few minutes but he ended up staying asleep tonight (8:30pm Sunday night here). So I'm going to plan on giving him a dose when he wakes, and then another before bedtime tomorrow. Thanks for getting back to me on this. I will also give you daily updates, say at the end of each day.
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alaskamom last decade
So yesterday he was fussy again during the day, seemed maybe somewhat better, and went to bed early like the night before. But he woke up a lot just in the first 3 hours of sleep so I gave him a dose when I came to bed. Nothing changed since then...still slept poorly and fussy today.
alaskamom last decade
Hmmm....he does seem resistant to the remedies. Either I am off the mark with them, or he is somewhat phlegmatic constitutionally.
Alright try this - place another 2 pellets in the bottle. Hit the bottle 20 times. Place a single drop on his tongue. Do this once in the morning and once at night.
If this produces no response, we might try giving him a dry dose instead. Then I will rework the case.
Alright try this - place another 2 pellets in the bottle. Hit the bottle 20 times. Place a single drop on his tongue. Do this once in the morning and once at night.
If this produces no response, we might try giving him a dry dose instead. Then I will rework the case.
♡ Evocationer last decade
I wouldn't be surprised if he is resistant. What does phlegmatic mean?
I will give him the dose with the additional pellets as soon as they dissolve. Will report on any changes tomorrow AM.
I will give him the dose with the additional pellets as soon as they dissolve. Will report on any changes tomorrow AM.
alaskamom last decade
Phlegmatic is an old word used to describe a kind of patient - I used it here to represent a sort of sluggishness or slowness to move in response to a remedy. Phlegmatic patients tend to respond better to dry doses initially - until you cure this tendency of course then they can work with wet doses.
♡ Evocationer last decade
That makes sense. He is so stubborn in his personality that I wouldn't be surprised if that applies to his response to remedies, too.
I gave him a dose before bed of the new dose, shall I give him another in the morning? It was late in the day when I read your instructions so I wasn't able to do morning and evening.
I gave him a dose before bed of the new dose, shall I give him another in the morning? It was late in the day when I read your instructions so I wasn't able to do morning and evening.
alaskamom last decade
OK. He had some improvement in the first 3 hours of sleep, then back to waking often after that. I will give him another dose this AM.
alaskamom last decade
After getting his morning dose today, he had a really super midday nap--he slept about 3 hours straight without needing me to go in and re-settle him. That is just about unheard of around here. So I think it's definitely helping. I'm interested to see what happens tonight.
alaskamom last decade
Last night he fought sleep really hard before bed, so I ended up giving him one more dose, making 3 total that he's had of the stronger dose. About an hour after giving him another dose, I tried him for bed again and he went down OK, didn't fight it like before. He slept better the first half of the night than usual, only woke up a few times, once when I came to bed and once when my oldest was calling me from the other room.
Then the second half of the night he seemed restless and whiny. Toward morning he was tossing and turning like something was bothering him and crying. He finally I think decided to give up trying to sleep after I was not able to soothe him back to sleep. That was 5am which was a bit early considering he went to bed at 8:30pm the night before.
This morning he seems clingy and a bit whiny. Wanting to be held more. He also has the hiccups (and had them last night too), which is more than normal for him, so it makes me wonder if his tummy is bothering him.
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Then the second half of the night he seemed restless and whiny. Toward morning he was tossing and turning like something was bothering him and crying. He finally I think decided to give up trying to sleep after I was not able to soothe him back to sleep. That was 5am which was a bit early considering he went to bed at 8:30pm the night before.
This morning he seems clingy and a bit whiny. Wanting to be held more. He also has the hiccups (and had them last night too), which is more than normal for him, so it makes me wonder if his tummy is bothering him.
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alaskamom last decade
Later in the day today:
He is still a bit fussy and whiny/clingy. He has been eating better the last few days, eating more of a variety of foods and not refusing solid foods like he was before.
He fought nap time hard again, even though he seems tired. Just could not convince him.
He did eventually go down a few hours later, when he was utterly exhausted.
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He is still a bit fussy and whiny/clingy. He has been eating better the last few days, eating more of a variety of foods and not refusing solid foods like he was before.
He fought nap time hard again, even though he seems tired. Just could not convince him.
He did eventually go down a few hours later, when he was utterly exhausted.
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alaskamom last decade
Alright it doesn't look like the medicine is helping him like I had hoped it would.
I will have to look over the case again. Don't give him any more of the remedy for the time being.
I will have to look over the case again. Don't give him any more of the remedy for the time being.
♡ Evocationer last decade
OK. Today he seemed better some, less fussy I believe. Yesterday evening I found he had a short dog hair embedded in his skin. I wonder if it was bothering him. I was able to remove it. I know it wouldn't be responsible for him waking frequently since birth but maybe partly so for how fussy he's been in recent days. Or the teething...who knows?
Anyway, tonight he did go down for bedtime without fussing about it or trying to get up. He just conked out. I think the remedy was helping a little, it did help in the first 3 hours or so of sleep for him. And his naptimes have been stretching out longer than they normally would, since doing the 20 succussions. So even though it hasn't had huge changes, I can see that it has helped a bit.
Anyway, tonight he did go down for bedtime without fussing about it or trying to get up. He just conked out. I think the remedy was helping a little, it did help in the first 3 hours or so of sleep for him. And his naptimes have been stretching out longer than they normally would, since doing the 20 succussions. So even though it hasn't had huge changes, I can see that it has helped a bit.
alaskamom last decade
Alright perhaps we need to be a little more patient then, to see if his chronic state has changed. Remember that slow change tends to be more stable that quick change.
♡ Evocationer last decade
So for now, withhold doses and see how he does? Or should I be dosing him any more?
This evening I could kind of see a pattern for him. I had company over--adults and several kids. They were still here at his bedtime, and he was tired but the noises and his curiosity kept him from falling asleep at 6:30pm when I would have normally put him down to bed.
They left at 7:30, and I tried again to put him to sleep, and he fought it again. Then at 8:00 I tried again, and he fought it the hardest, crying and arching backward at just the thought of being put to sleep (as I was walking into the bedroom). I had to do everything I could to get him to sleep.
What I noticed, is that my normal tactic has been to let him get as exhausted as possible in order to get him to fall asleep more easily (prior to the homeopathy). If I tried him too early, it would be useless. So I wonder if now, maybe I need to change that tactic, if he is normalizing a bit and, like most other babies, gets overstimulated if allowed to stay up too late. Then it makes it extra hard to put them to bed, because they're just wound up too tight to relax.
Anyway, I was just thinking that maybe if I tried putting him to bed extra early, perhaps now he would be more willing to go (now that we are doing the homeopathy). I just know that if he had been able to fall asleep at the very beginning, it would never have deteriorated into him crying so hard and fighting it so hard.
Also, I wonder if I should try to change the way I put him to bed? Right now we cosleep, with the crib pushed up to the bed and the front rail off. He often sleeps in the bed with me, sometimes in the crib if I want my space.
Of course there is the thought that he should be in the crib by himself and I should not nurse him at night, but let him cry it out and all that. But I just can't seem to do it. When he cries for me it's like his heart is broken and his whole world has fallen apart. And I feel like the biggest jerk ever. So I just keep doing what has gotten us the most sleep so far, which is just nursing him back to sleep when he wants and letting him sleep in bed with me. I know it's likely best to do what is instinctual with him, but I guess I just wanted to run it by you.
This evening I could kind of see a pattern for him. I had company over--adults and several kids. They were still here at his bedtime, and he was tired but the noises and his curiosity kept him from falling asleep at 6:30pm when I would have normally put him down to bed.
They left at 7:30, and I tried again to put him to sleep, and he fought it again. Then at 8:00 I tried again, and he fought it the hardest, crying and arching backward at just the thought of being put to sleep (as I was walking into the bedroom). I had to do everything I could to get him to sleep.
What I noticed, is that my normal tactic has been to let him get as exhausted as possible in order to get him to fall asleep more easily (prior to the homeopathy). If I tried him too early, it would be useless. So I wonder if now, maybe I need to change that tactic, if he is normalizing a bit and, like most other babies, gets overstimulated if allowed to stay up too late. Then it makes it extra hard to put them to bed, because they're just wound up too tight to relax.
Anyway, I was just thinking that maybe if I tried putting him to bed extra early, perhaps now he would be more willing to go (now that we are doing the homeopathy). I just know that if he had been able to fall asleep at the very beginning, it would never have deteriorated into him crying so hard and fighting it so hard.
Also, I wonder if I should try to change the way I put him to bed? Right now we cosleep, with the crib pushed up to the bed and the front rail off. He often sleeps in the bed with me, sometimes in the crib if I want my space.
Of course there is the thought that he should be in the crib by himself and I should not nurse him at night, but let him cry it out and all that. But I just can't seem to do it. When he cries for me it's like his heart is broken and his whole world has fallen apart. And I feel like the biggest jerk ever. So I just keep doing what has gotten us the most sleep so far, which is just nursing him back to sleep when he wants and letting him sleep in bed with me. I know it's likely best to do what is instinctual with him, but I guess I just wanted to run it by you.
alaskamom last decade
So he is sleepless from the excitement perhaps? It still sounds very much like Coffea. We use coffee to stay up late, to fight off sleep, and it produces excitement and sleeplessness.
I wonder if potency is the issue? It could be worth trying a single dose of 1M.
I wonder if potency is the issue? It could be worth trying a single dose of 1M.
♡ Evocationer last decade
Perhaps so! It seems like the excitement only affects his ability to fall asleep, but not his night wakenings. They seem to be the same whether he goes to bed early or late.
Did you want to try a dry dose of the 200C first on the Coffea? And then 1M? Just wondering since you mentioned that before.
Did you want to try a dry dose of the 200C first on the Coffea? And then 1M? Just wondering since you mentioned that before.
alaskamom last decade
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♡ Evocationer last decade
I would bet the main problem is I cannot see and observe him. I get a lot more from babies and toddlers when I see them in person at clinic. This is always going to be a more protracted process unfortunately.
♡ Evocationer last decade
I can imagine that does make it more difficult. Let me know if there's any info I can provide that might help.
In case it's important at all, last night he woke up crying really hard, almost like a night terror where you just can't get them to settle. He didn't want to be comforted or held, he was fighting that. I noticed he still had a dry diaper after going to bed---this was probably 6 hours after he went to bed, which seemed unusual for him to hold it that long. I finally got him to nurse, and then after that he must have let loose because he wet his diaper all the way through to his clothes. He does tend to hold his bladder a long time in between peeing, and has done that since he was a newborn. With having some sort of slight kidney abnormalities this gives me a small amount of concern (also since kidney issues run in the family, from me). Just thought I'd pass it along just in case.
In case it's important at all, last night he woke up crying really hard, almost like a night terror where you just can't get them to settle. He didn't want to be comforted or held, he was fighting that. I noticed he still had a dry diaper after going to bed---this was probably 6 hours after he went to bed, which seemed unusual for him to hold it that long. I finally got him to nurse, and then after that he must have let loose because he wet his diaper all the way through to his clothes. He does tend to hold his bladder a long time in between peeing, and has done that since he was a newborn. With having some sort of slight kidney abnormalities this gives me a small amount of concern (also since kidney issues run in the family, from me). Just thought I'd pass it along just in case.
alaskamom last decade
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