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I went ahead and gave a dose of Cina this morning. I figured it couldn't hurt to try. I did one drop to the tongue as before.
alaskamom 9 years ago
Nothing much to report yet. Gave another dose of Cina. Yes, I know, it was too soon. I didn't want to do the wait-and-see approach.
He is cutting his fourth molar now so he is of course not sleeping great. But he is doing better at the beginning of the night. Last week I was giving him 1 mg of Melatonin and it was helping him sleep better at the beginning of the night. Last night he didn't get any of that, and he still slept better at the beginning despite teething. But toward 3am he woke crying and putting his hands in his mouth. Anywho.
He is cutting his fourth molar now so he is of course not sleeping great. But he is doing better at the beginning of the night. Last week I was giving him 1 mg of Melatonin and it was helping him sleep better at the beginning of the night. Last night he didn't get any of that, and he still slept better at the beginning despite teething. But toward 3am he woke crying and putting his hands in his mouth. Anywho.
alaskamom 9 years ago
Hi there, sorry I have been out of contact. Moved house and they cut off my phone and internet earlier than I asked them to.
While I understand your impatience considering the lack of success so far, be aware giving too many doses too soon will create aggravation and it may be hard to see improvement. That is not to imply we know for sure this remedy will help, but it does make it harder to know what is going on. It would be a tragedy at this point to move past the right remedy without realising it - it could be impossible to get back.
So there are some improvements? Can you be more specific and give more details?
While I understand your impatience considering the lack of success so far, be aware giving too many doses too soon will create aggravation and it may be hard to see improvement. That is not to imply we know for sure this remedy will help, but it does make it harder to know what is going on. It would be a tragedy at this point to move past the right remedy without realising it - it could be impossible to get back.
So there are some improvements? Can you be more specific and give more details?
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
I don't know. Daytime attitude has been fussy, clingy, irritable, fighting sleep but sleeping well at nap time (which he has been doing prior to Cina, taking three hour naps during the day because he sleeps so poorly at night).
He's still fighting sleep hard and doesn't go down unless exhausted enough to fall asleep in 10 minutes or so, this is normal for him though. Only difference so far is he slept with less frequent wakeups at the beginning of the night, so from when he went to sleep last night (around 7pm), maybe 4 or so wakeups until 3 am when he got really restless and woke maybe 5 or 6 times until he was up for good at 7:30 am. He did sleep later, too, normally he's up at 5:30 whether he went to bed late or early. We did spend a lot of time in the sun yesterday though.
He's still fighting sleep hard and doesn't go down unless exhausted enough to fall asleep in 10 minutes or so, this is normal for him though. Only difference so far is he slept with less frequent wakeups at the beginning of the night, so from when he went to sleep last night (around 7pm), maybe 4 or so wakeups until 3 am when he got really restless and woke maybe 5 or 6 times until he was up for good at 7:30 am. He did sleep later, too, normally he's up at 5:30 whether he went to bed late or early. We did spend a lot of time in the sun yesterday though.
alaskamom 9 years ago
Tell me something - what is your impression of what is going on inside of him? Without being able to observe him myself you are the only way I can try to see him. I know some of how you feel will be mixed up with that, but I am hoping the Sepia will have offered you some objectivity (as much as your sleep deprivation allows).
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
I feel that perhaps he has some sort of psychic ability in the form of visions, or something visual, that is keeping him stimulated when he should be resting. I don't know if you believe in that sort of thing, but he just seems to have a knowing look about him. My older son and I seem to be on the more 'empathic' side as far as anything psychic goes, call it what you will, emotional hypersensitivity, what have you. Well perhaps Kody has some sort of hypersensitivity in one of the 5 senses? Auditory, visual, etc? He just seems to be always 'on' and like he has a hard time shutting his brain off. Like he wants to sleep, but his brain is still going a million miles an hour. In the night he cries, and it's like he's just reaching out asking if I'm still there, if all is well, if he is safe. As soon as he knows I'm there, he's fine. Does any of this help?
alaskamom 9 years ago
Hmmm...interesting. That is an interesting idea. Can you describe more on that 'seems to always be on' - any insight or intuition you have about it at all may help.
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
Let's see...
So from my own experience, nighttime seems to be when my emotional sensitivities are strongest. I feel connected more...to that which is all around. It's hard to put into words. Maybe more connected to God? The universe? To love, if I tune into it. I feel like I can reach out and embrace nature or the air or what have you. When I was single or before we has kids, I would love to spend a quiet evening gazing at the stars and moon and just feeling full and content, almost I like nostalgia or sweetly homesick. My creativity is also stronger at this time, when the sun goes down and it's cool out.
So perhaps for him, if he is like me, nighttime is when his abilities are more active as well. I have also read that while we are dreaming and asleep, is when we are most in tune with the unconscious or the psyche, and our third eye is more open because it doesn't have the rational mind to interfere with it or to misconstrue the signals. So, if this is true, perhaps he sees disturbing or confusing images in his sleep, which 1, make it hard to get decent rest, and 2, make him a bit leery of falling asleep the next time. Maybe in that light sleep when he wakes, he is just 'checking' that all is as it should be, or maybe he feels disoriented.
I feel that if he were able to talk, he would have so much to tell me about. He has this look like he's trying to tell me something with his mind sometimes. Like he just stares calmly and intently in my eyes sometimes. It doesn't last long, I think because he realizes I don't understand. Maybe someday I will.
So from my own experience, nighttime seems to be when my emotional sensitivities are strongest. I feel connected more...to that which is all around. It's hard to put into words. Maybe more connected to God? The universe? To love, if I tune into it. I feel like I can reach out and embrace nature or the air or what have you. When I was single or before we has kids, I would love to spend a quiet evening gazing at the stars and moon and just feeling full and content, almost I like nostalgia or sweetly homesick. My creativity is also stronger at this time, when the sun goes down and it's cool out.
So perhaps for him, if he is like me, nighttime is when his abilities are more active as well. I have also read that while we are dreaming and asleep, is when we are most in tune with the unconscious or the psyche, and our third eye is more open because it doesn't have the rational mind to interfere with it or to misconstrue the signals. So, if this is true, perhaps he sees disturbing or confusing images in his sleep, which 1, make it hard to get decent rest, and 2, make him a bit leery of falling asleep the next time. Maybe in that light sleep when he wakes, he is just 'checking' that all is as it should be, or maybe he feels disoriented.
I feel that if he were able to talk, he would have so much to tell me about. He has this look like he's trying to tell me something with his mind sometimes. Like he just stares calmly and intently in my eyes sometimes. It doesn't last long, I think because he realizes I don't understand. Maybe someday I will.
alaskamom 9 years ago
As for always on, he is sharp as a tack. He can already put one of those straws into the hole on a juice box. I think that's a bit ahead for his age. 14, almost 15 months? I would think that's something a 2 or 3 year old would be able to do.
He also picks up on how to do something just after being shown once or twice.
Anyway I think his brain is always processing what's around him, and perhaps he is able to handle the daiytime information pouring in, but at night he doesn't know how to turn off his antennae, so to speak, and just keeps receiving all night, too.
He has to be at the point of complete physical exhaustion before he can surrender to sleep. He seems to need a lot of distraction to get to sleep---rocking, singing, patting, nursing, etc--and any tiny distraction completely stops any progress we might have made toward falling asleep. So my thought is, it's not his immediate surroundings that are distracting him, it's the atmosphere, emotions perhaps, extra-sensory awareness, that is keeping his little brain 'running' in high gear instead of down-shifting into idle.
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He also picks up on how to do something just after being shown once or twice.
Anyway I think his brain is always processing what's around him, and perhaps he is able to handle the daiytime information pouring in, but at night he doesn't know how to turn off his antennae, so to speak, and just keeps receiving all night, too.
He has to be at the point of complete physical exhaustion before he can surrender to sleep. He seems to need a lot of distraction to get to sleep---rocking, singing, patting, nursing, etc--and any tiny distraction completely stops any progress we might have made toward falling asleep. So my thought is, it's not his immediate surroundings that are distracting him, it's the atmosphere, emotions perhaps, extra-sensory awareness, that is keeping his little brain 'running' in high gear instead of down-shifting into idle.
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alaskamom 9 years ago
So your sense of it is that it is like he is always open to things, always taking them in, absorbing them ... a state of perhaps being too receptive?
When you look at him, what comes to mind, when you think about those qualities? If not a young infant, what would he be, that would colourfully describe that state he is in?
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When you look at him, what comes to mind, when you think about those qualities? If not a young infant, what would he be, that would colourfully describe that state he is in?
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♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
YesI think a state of being either too observant, or too receptive, would describe him.
I think I would describe him as a lightning rod. He is made to handle it, but something may be askew? He's not grounding properly? Some of the energy is remaining or not being used properly and is causing him to be super heated or burnt out or just running at a higher capacity than he was designed to do. You know, something like on a show where they have the engines at 120% of capacity. The man in the engine room saying captain, this is not recommended! But they do it anyway.
I think I would describe him as a lightning rod. He is made to handle it, but something may be askew? He's not grounding properly? Some of the energy is remaining or not being used properly and is causing him to be super heated or burnt out or just running at a higher capacity than he was designed to do. You know, something like on a show where they have the engines at 120% of capacity. The man in the engine room saying captain, this is not recommended! But they do it anyway.
alaskamom 9 years ago
Just FYI, I'm headed to bed for the night, so if you reply while I sleep, I'll catch you in the morning.
alaskamom 9 years ago
Btw just letting you know I am working on this. Trying to go through it more carefully this time.
How was he last night and this morning?
How was he last night and this morning?
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
Thanks for letting me know.
Last night, about the same. Better at the beginning of the night than he has been, so not waking as much, but worse after 3am. Slept till 7am-ish.
He's been really fussy and irritable today. Seems to be his teeth as he does better when I use Oragel on them. Not too interested in food. Little nibbles here and there. Drinking just fine though.
Nap was about 2 hours, so average for him. He didn't seem rested when he woke up though, he seemed like he wanted to keep sleeping but was restless. It was that same way this morning when he woke for the day.
[message edited by alaskamom on Tue, 05 Aug 2014 01:50:14 BST]
Last night, about the same. Better at the beginning of the night than he has been, so not waking as much, but worse after 3am. Slept till 7am-ish.
He's been really fussy and irritable today. Seems to be his teeth as he does better when I use Oragel on them. Not too interested in food. Little nibbles here and there. Drinking just fine though.
Nap was about 2 hours, so average for him. He didn't seem rested when he woke up though, he seemed like he wanted to keep sleeping but was restless. It was that same way this morning when he woke for the day.
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alaskamom 9 years ago
Alright there are a few choices here. Can you get Arsenicum in any potency?
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
I think so, but I'm not positive. I'd have to call the natural foods store, and they are closed for the night right now. In the morning I can give them a ring and see what they have. I seem to recall seeing it in 6c and 30c potencies. If I'm lucky, they might have 200ck, they have a small selection of those.
alaskamom 9 years ago
Hey, I'm in luck. Before I called, I looked in my stash, and I have both 30c, and 200c in there of Arsenicum Album. Lucky! How shall I dose the 30c?
alaskamom 9 years ago
Ok good, I worry about your ability to keep buying medicines.
Give him 3 doses, one before sleep, one on waking, and one in the middle of that day. Hit the bottle 5 times, place 3 drops in 100mls, stir and give him 2 teaspoons. Stop if you feel he has aggravated on any dose.
Give him 3 doses, one before sleep, one on waking, and one in the middle of that day. Hit the bottle 5 times, place 3 drops in 100mls, stir and give him 2 teaspoons. Stop if you feel he has aggravated on any dose.
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
I did a lot of work on this case yesterday. Without seeing a difficult case in person, I tend to have to work with it as a paper case - pure intellectual work no use of any other skills (like intuition or perception). This has limitations, but I did teach this skill at college to students for 7 years.
I just wanted to show you some of the work - these are various rubrics I have found that might be relevant to your son's problem. I am continuing to work through each post you made, examining all the various symptoms and how they might be translated into homoeopathic symptoms.
I wanted to start with Arsenicum because I noticed a pattern of it appearing in various rubrics, and I considered the overall state of the remedy (more easily seen in someone older of course) - Anxious, restless and constantly moving, clinging, wanting company, worse being alone, worse at night, wanting to be carried and usually better for it, sleeplessness that is related to the use of drugs, pulling of other people's hair. I also began to look at those remedies that might suit the pathology he had around the kidneys, and Ars is found the the rubric 'Kidneys, swelling of'.
As I work through all the symptoms, and examine the remedies found in different rubrics, over time it does start to suggest certain strategies (based on how often I see those remedies or where exactly they are appearing).
Restlessness with complaints of teeth - Acon, coff, mag-c, mang, merc, sep, spig
Restlessness, children, at night - jal, coca, kali-c, Psor, rheum, staph
Restlessness during dentition - acon, coca, cypr, Kreos, RHEUM
Restlessness during dentition at night - coca
Restlessness better being carried about - ant-t, ars, cham, cina, kali-c
Sleepless and restless - carc, coca-c, Lac-d, stict, vanil
Desires to be rocked - acon, carb-an, carc, CHAM, cina, kali-c, puls, pyrog, rhus-t, sanic, heroin
Sleeplessness, fretful from bedtime to morning, bright during the day - Psor
Complaints of ureters - apis, Bell, Berb, canth, carb-an, hydrang, Lyc, oci, par, polyg-h, SARS, sep, ter, verat
Swelling of kidneys - APIS, ars, berb, hell, helon, kali-c, kali-I, lyc, phos, plb, rhus-t, solid, ter, vesp
*Note: I have considered going into the case this way, through these two pathological rubrics, which would highlight 4 remedies I hadn't really considered before - Apis, Berberis, Lycopodium, Terebinthia. I am continuing to keep this approach in mind.
Palpitation during pregnancy - Arg-met, Con, Laur, LIL-T, NAT-M, SEP, sulph
Sleeplessness, exhaustion - aven, cact, chlol, coca, cocc, coff, cypr, gels, ozone
Sleeplessness after narcotics - Bell, Nux-v, stram
Sleeplessness, child must be rocked - carc, cina, Stict
Sleeplessness with screaming - cina, hyos, jal, senn
Sleeplessness with screaming, children - passi
Waking, frequent, in children - borx, phos, sep, staph, tritic-vg, vanil
Waking, frequent, with restlessness - lach
Waking, frequent, by jerks - BELL, cann-i, hep, m-arct, merc, mez, Nat-c, oci-sa, Sulph, zinc
Waking, periodical, every 2 hours - nat-m
Waking, periodical, every 3 hours - nat-m, puls
Waking as if having slept one's fill, even after a short sleep - ham, med, spong
Waking as from vivacity - cycl, dros, ip, merc, ph-ac, Ran-b, ruta, samb, Sep, tarax, viol-t
Desires to play at night - cypr, med
Pulling someone's hair - ars, bar-c, BELL, cupr, dulc, lach, Lil-t, med, merc, mez, tarent, tub, xanth
Gagging after eating - agar, Ambr, Kali-c, Lach
So my attention is being drawn to some remedies - Sepia is in there which is very interesting, and I have to consider that child and mother might be in the same state.
Anyway I just wanted to show you how what kind of process this can involve, and that I am still attempting to solve this mystery.
I just wanted to show you some of the work - these are various rubrics I have found that might be relevant to your son's problem. I am continuing to work through each post you made, examining all the various symptoms and how they might be translated into homoeopathic symptoms.
I wanted to start with Arsenicum because I noticed a pattern of it appearing in various rubrics, and I considered the overall state of the remedy (more easily seen in someone older of course) - Anxious, restless and constantly moving, clinging, wanting company, worse being alone, worse at night, wanting to be carried and usually better for it, sleeplessness that is related to the use of drugs, pulling of other people's hair. I also began to look at those remedies that might suit the pathology he had around the kidneys, and Ars is found the the rubric 'Kidneys, swelling of'.
As I work through all the symptoms, and examine the remedies found in different rubrics, over time it does start to suggest certain strategies (based on how often I see those remedies or where exactly they are appearing).
Restlessness with complaints of teeth - Acon, coff, mag-c, mang, merc, sep, spig
Restlessness, children, at night - jal, coca, kali-c, Psor, rheum, staph
Restlessness during dentition - acon, coca, cypr, Kreos, RHEUM
Restlessness during dentition at night - coca
Restlessness better being carried about - ant-t, ars, cham, cina, kali-c
Sleepless and restless - carc, coca-c, Lac-d, stict, vanil
Desires to be rocked - acon, carb-an, carc, CHAM, cina, kali-c, puls, pyrog, rhus-t, sanic, heroin
Sleeplessness, fretful from bedtime to morning, bright during the day - Psor
Complaints of ureters - apis, Bell, Berb, canth, carb-an, hydrang, Lyc, oci, par, polyg-h, SARS, sep, ter, verat
Swelling of kidneys - APIS, ars, berb, hell, helon, kali-c, kali-I, lyc, phos, plb, rhus-t, solid, ter, vesp
*Note: I have considered going into the case this way, through these two pathological rubrics, which would highlight 4 remedies I hadn't really considered before - Apis, Berberis, Lycopodium, Terebinthia. I am continuing to keep this approach in mind.
Palpitation during pregnancy - Arg-met, Con, Laur, LIL-T, NAT-M, SEP, sulph
Sleeplessness, exhaustion - aven, cact, chlol, coca, cocc, coff, cypr, gels, ozone
Sleeplessness after narcotics - Bell, Nux-v, stram
Sleeplessness, child must be rocked - carc, cina, Stict
Sleeplessness with screaming - cina, hyos, jal, senn
Sleeplessness with screaming, children - passi
Waking, frequent, in children - borx, phos, sep, staph, tritic-vg, vanil
Waking, frequent, with restlessness - lach
Waking, frequent, by jerks - BELL, cann-i, hep, m-arct, merc, mez, Nat-c, oci-sa, Sulph, zinc
Waking, periodical, every 2 hours - nat-m
Waking, periodical, every 3 hours - nat-m, puls
Waking as if having slept one's fill, even after a short sleep - ham, med, spong
Waking as from vivacity - cycl, dros, ip, merc, ph-ac, Ran-b, ruta, samb, Sep, tarax, viol-t
Desires to play at night - cypr, med
Pulling someone's hair - ars, bar-c, BELL, cupr, dulc, lach, Lil-t, med, merc, mez, tarent, tub, xanth
Gagging after eating - agar, Ambr, Kali-c, Lach
So my attention is being drawn to some remedies - Sepia is in there which is very interesting, and I have to consider that child and mother might be in the same state.
Anyway I just wanted to show you how what kind of process this can involve, and that I am still attempting to solve this mystery.
♡ Evocationer 9 years ago
All right, I have given him his first dose, and he will be going to bed soon. (I thought he was ready for bed, but not yet, apparently.)
Interesting what you're seeing with the indications there. If I'm not mistaken, we did already try the Lycopodium, and I know for sure I did try one dose of Sepia (30c, I believe).
Thanks so much for working so hard on this little guy.
Interesting what you're seeing with the indications there. If I'm not mistaken, we did already try the Lycopodium, and I know for sure I did try one dose of Sepia (30c, I believe).
Thanks so much for working so hard on this little guy.
alaskamom 9 years ago
Well, seems like he aggravated on just one dose. He slept very restlessly last night. Woke frequently, crying. Nursed him back to sleep only to wake crying again shortly after. Seems happy enough this morning.
alaskamom 9 years ago
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