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[message edited by Zady101 on Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:16:43 BST]
 
Zady101 9 years ago
I am not sure what is going on. Zady has deleted all those posts so I didn't see them.

Obviously the antipyretics are just suppressing the symptoms, which isn't good for him. Fever protects us from the pathogens which are killed or at least hampered by the increased heat of the body.

However he isn't recovering, and this is strange for someone so young. What is also strange is how much like Arsenicum he still appears, from the symptoms at least.

So I looked at:

Cough, gagging
Copious yellow mucous
Thirsty, frequent sips
No appetite
Lethargic
Dark circles under eyes
Paleness of skin
Red discolouration of cheeks during fever
Skin hot to touch
Vomiting clear yellow
Miserable appearance
Desire to be held

Yet again, the only remedy to show for almost all those symptoms is Arsenicum. This is closely followed by Sulphur and Iodum, then Phosphorous, Sepia, Mercurius.

If I add in Fussy, and Consolation ameliorates, it still puts Arsenicum at the top, but gives a little more weight to Pulsatilla and Phosphorous.

Since you have Pulsatilla handy, give him a dose to see if that helps. I assume Zady may have advised you to use either Chamomilla or Arsenicum again at 30c?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
ars 30c to probably stop what may
be huge aggravation from 200c I
am thinking.
 
simone717 9 years ago
Yes. Actually, I think it could be a proving rather than an aggravation. There doesn't seem to be any other explanation for it.

My preference would be to use an antidotal remedy like Puls, rather than the same remedy again. Other antidotes I would consider would be Ipec, Merc, Phos, and Iod.

What remedies do you have at home so I know what else we can do in a hurry.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Although Ethan is sick as well isn't he? Are the symptoms the same?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
I'm not sure why Zady deleted the posts either. I just was having a hard time feeling at the mercy of a practitioner I don't know who is holding the fate of my child in his hands. I know you, I trust you. I would rather not be waiting on pins and needles while the two of you hash things out. I gave a dose of Pulsatilla earlier but also a dose of Ibuprofen awhile after when I the Pulsatilla didn't to do anything and he was still miserable.
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
I have no problem with collaboration when it is an emergency though. Others here have experience too, perhaps more with the whole prescribing via the internet aspect.

So is Ethan sick with the same symptoms? Did you just give him a remedy as well?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Also, what remedies do you have at home, so I know what you have quick access to.

Which of these symptoms has he had before? Are any of them completely new? Was there a specific incident in his past that looked like this?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Yes, Ethan got sick the exact same time Kody did, and I gave them each their respective remedies on the same day, when Kody got his first dose of the 200c. The illness started the next day. The illness has gone a lot easier on Ethan though, he only had a fever for part of one day, and laid around for a day or two, and now is up and playing although still congested. He never developed into gagging or vomiting and his fever never went as high as Kody's. His remedy was Phosphorus.

Here's what I have at home.

Arnica 30c
Stram 200c
Borax 30c
Rhus Tox 6c
Lycopod 30c
Ars. Alb 30c, 200c
Nux Vom 30c & 200c
Sepia 30c & 200c
Phosphorus 30c
Pulsatilla 30c
Coffea 200c
Cham 200c
Cina 200c
Chocolate 200c
Carcin 200c
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
I'm feeling just a touch under the weather myself--sore throat and achy feeling.

Anywho,
as for his symptoms, what seems different is the nasal mucous is yellow, whereas before it seemed to always be clear. He has definitely been sick like this what seems like several times, although it seems like the fever would break after 3 days. But he's had several times at least of a fever with nothing apparently wrong with him. The bilious vomiting is new. In the past, he would vomit and it would look more like breastmilk. He's also gagging a lot more than normal, but the gagging and vomiting seem like an exaggeration of his normal stuff he has going on anyway---gagging occasionally, coughing and sputtering often with eating or drinking, etc.
Overall his symptoms look like what I've seen before, but just a bit worse or more protracted than in the past.
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
So aggravation then. The second dose may have been a mistake. In any case where the aggravation is too severe, antidoting is the appropriate response. Potency is either too high or he has had too many doses. IF Arsenicum is his remedy, then we must be more careful in the future. The advanced dosing methods probably need to be used here.

How is the coughing related to the vomiting (or visa versa)?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Well, he seems to cough, swallow, gag, swallow, cough, etc, and the throwing up seems just periodical--every hour or two, he was just having a throw up session, where he would gag first, then dry heave, then vomit up small amounts of clear yellow stomach fluids. Then he'd be all right for awhile, maybe want a drink of water a few minutes later. Then vomit again later on. Last night, it seemed like he was waking up every hour, gagging, after his Ibuprofen wore off around 1am. At 4 am I gave him more and he slept quietly more or less.
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
So what do I do to make this stop? As for antidoting, I have Colic calm, which has homeopathic Carbo Vegetalis, among other remedies in it. I have had good luck with Ethan in the past when I've used it for stomach bugs with him. I'm getting close to Kody's bedtime and would like to be able to do something for him other than the Ibuprofen.
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
Don't use a combination. Who knows what that would do? That adds random elements we don't need here.

So BOTH boys have either aggravated or developed proving symptoms on Arsenicum. Very strange. It seems that Phosphorous was a much better remedy for Ethan though - I wonder....why don't you give Kody a dose of Phos too. It is listed as an antidote and scored quite highly for the symptoms.

Zady and Simone's idea of repeating a dose of Ars 30 could be tried too but make sure you aren't giving too many things in too short a period.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Yes I suppose they did, didn't they?
So a dose of Phos. Will do.
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
Oh and yes, it did seem like the Phosphorus did work pretty well for Ethan. I feel like he is a lot improved (other than the illness).
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
There does seem to be some parallel between the two boys doesn't there? I haven't seen that before in a family - sometimes in the parent and child, but never in siblings. Well the dose of Phos will tell us how much of a parallel it is.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Oh yes I would say more than just a little parallel between them. Kody ended up having the exact same kind of problems as his older brother. I'm sure it's my fault somehow. But we'll see how it goes.
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
I'm getting a little concerned. Kody has had a dry diaper for 7 hours now. Prior to that, he was wet every time I checked him (every few hours). Maybe he isn't drinking quite as much today, but 7 hours seems a little long for him. He does this sometimes though, going long stretches without urinating, and I don't know why. It's like he holds it.
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
He's fighting sleep too. He will ask for 'mama' (nursing) but then when I go to lay him down on the bed like always, he is crying. He did that last night too.
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
If it has happened before I wouldn't be too worried. What about the rest of his symptoms - any change?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
He's awake this morning, still looking washed out, but the vomiting has stopped, and his fever is gone. His nasal discharge is clear instead of yellow now, too. Seems like he has less overall urine output compared to normal, at least during the night anyway.
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
Ok then it appears to have helped. Repeat the Phosphorous is there is any relapse, otherwise just watch and wait.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Sounds good. His appetite is some better, and his afternoon nap was better. During this illness, he was just taking 50 minute naps, but today he took a 3 hour nap! I'm happy about that. He still looks bluish around the eyes and washed out, but he seems better for sure.
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
So his sleeping is really awful these past few nights. Last night especially. He woke up probably 15 times. Crying, hard to settle. It's also driving me nuts how late he is going to bed every night. Around 10 or 11 o'clock. Last night he fell asleep at 6:45, and I thought, 'Oh great! Now he'll be going to sleep at a decent time.' But he only slept for an hour and then woke up crying, and wanted to be 'all done' sleeping. I spent the next hour trying to get him back to sleep. He bawled and wailed because he wanted to get up. I could tell he was still tired though. I even got him back to sleep a couple times but he kept waking up crying. I finally gave up after an hour and got him up. Then he didn't go back to bed for the night until almost 11pm. He's been sleeping late in the morning, too. He seems to be associating bedtime as a negative thing somehow, because he will ask to go back to the bedroom ('mama night night'), but then will cry when I lay him on the bed. He also is crying more when I lay him down to change his diaper. He really hates that.

By the way, did I ever mention Kody hates blankets? When I try to cover him up he'll say 'No, no,' and kick them off. He seems to dislike his feet being covered the most. But he doesn't mind socks, and loves wearing his shoes.
 
alaskamom 9 years ago
He also had a dry diaper all night, which is unusual for him.
 
alaskamom 9 years ago

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