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There are posts all over the internet and have been for years involving tonsil stones. When on earth is someone going to find a cure for this garbage. Doctors, especially nowadays don't know to much of anything except for a lot of big words like tonsilectomy and invasive/non-invasive and hairline fracture. Please I know this stuff just from reading on the net. When will doctors start curing as opposed to being pill pushers all day. Sorry for the long-windedness guys.
 
IceyBlue last decade
Hey guys.

last i said i was going to remove my tonsils but my doctor said i had PND because one of my sinuses is always inflamited.i tried to explain my problem about the stones but he said i knew too much and gave me a nasal spray and some pills,as they alway do,which did'nt help at all. i don't know if you guys have the same problem as me because my tonsils are'nt that big nor painful but i have a bad taste all day and nite.I used to get this taste of the smelly tonsil stones when i brushed my teeth in the morning but realised that if i wiped my tonsils before i brushed my teeth the smell would completly disappear.im so stressed about this taste and the worst thing is that i don't think a doctor would allow me to remove my tonsils as they are not that large and not painful,the problem is the bad taste damn this doctors,they just don't understand when u try to explain.

Anyways where are those guys who removed their tonsils?Did it help with the bad breath and the stones?Would really appritiate your expiriences?
 
ruddy last decade
Hey ruddy,

Yes, having your tonsils removed should help the taste and the smell. You will still get bad breath but it will be normal bad breath, if you know what I mean.

I would suggest finding an ENT that will say you have 'chronic tonsilitis' and get those things out for you. In my case, the Dr. connected the tonsil stones with a form of infection in and of themselves. I have not had a stone since my surgery, 3.5 months.
 
plantinga last decade
It's crazy though plantinga because I'm hearing strong arguments from both sides of the fence. Some say that getting your tonsils removed won't cure the disgusting tonsil stone thing. They say that there will be areas further down in the throat that aren't visible that will house these things and the problem will persist. Then there are those who agree with your results and say that the issue becomes completely resolved. If it was as easy as removing your tonsils wouldn't everyone with the issue who gained enough knowledge to finally reach the conclusions that we have and get them removed? I don't deny what you said, I'm just worried about doing something so drastic and to no avail.
 
IceyBlue last decade
Alright. Here's an argument.

1) Either your tonsil stones will disappear on their own or you can do something about your tonsil stones.

2) If you do something about your tonsil stones then, you will either get a tonsillectomy or pick at your tonsils for the rest of your life.

3) It is highly probable that your tonsil stones will not disappear on their own.

4) You want to do something about your tonsil stones but you do not want to pick at your tonsils for the rest of your life.

5) The odds of the tonsil stones disappearing on their own is worse than the odds of your tonsil stones returning after a tonsillectomy.

6) You do not want tonsil stones but you also do not want to be too risky.

5) So, If you do not want tonsil stones and you do not want to be too risky and you do not want to pick at your tonsils for the rest of your life then,you ought to get a tonsillectomy.

This argument is all in fun, I am not talking down to you! I just like logic.
 
plantinga last decade
My experience with the white bumps is almost the same as all of yours. I've had them for years. My doctors try to tell me that it is food particles, but I don't believe him because they start from the inside and create crypts as they pop out. Now, my tonsils are so small you can hardly see them. I believe that I lose tonsil tissue each time these bumps pop out. The pain is awful, and I feel sick, like I have tonsillitis, or a sinus infection, until the bump pops out. My doctor also told me that I could have my tonsils removed, but he doesn't think it will guarantee their elimination. I do use a long cotton swab to press them out, or pull the folds forward to eliminate them. I have found that they usually occur when I am sick with an infection of any kind (even a boil on my butt), and I get pimples and other breakouts at the same time. Once the bumps are gone, everything else clears up, too. I don't believe that milk has anything to do with them, because I am lactose intolerant, and I don't drink milk or eat ice cream.
I have found that taking multi-vitamins, adding extra vitamin C and vitamin E help boost my immune system, and ever since, I have much fewer occurrences of the bumps. Rarely, though, I do get run down or sick and they re-appear. A proper vitamin regimen WILL reduce the occurrences of many illnesses, such as colds and sinus infections, and you will be surprised at the results. Since I started mine, even my eyesight has improved, proof that our normal diet is lacking in important nutrients.
I don't think we will ever be completely rid of our bumps, but we can do things to improve our over-all health, and that will, in the long run, ease the symptoms!
 
calaloo722 last decade
I found this info on another site:

'The tonsils are sentinels, standing guard at the back of the throat to protect the delicate tissues of our lungs and intestines from foreign invaders. They are part of a ring of defenders, Waldeyer's Ring (which includes the tonsils, adenoids, and other, encircling the back of the throat as an important line of defense. The tonsils and adenoids are largest during childhood; they are front-line guardians while the body's more sophisticated internal immune system learns and develops.
The situation you describe, Alice, is a very common one. The tonsils usually appear like small, dimpled golf balls set on either side of the back of the throat. Children with large tonsils and deep crypts often do get food particles trapped in there. Because saliva contains digestive enzymes, trapped food begins to break down. Particularly, the starch or carbohydrate part of the food melts away, leaving firmer, harder remains of food in the tonsils. This does not look like the food that went into the mouth.
As you suspect, however, there is more to these hard lumps than just food. The tonsils also trap other mouth debris such as and old cells from the surface of the mouth's lining. Some of these cells contain small amounts of keratin, the same substance found in fingernails and rhinoceros horns. Whatever the nature of the debris, it is then attacked by white blood cells. The aftermath of this battle leaves the crevices of the tonsil strewn with hardened remains.
Most people swallow this material without ever noticing it, while it is still tiny. In those whose tonsils are large, however, the particles can lodge in the deep crypts, where they continue to grow. The enlarging lumps are called calculi of the tonsil, or tonsilloliths (tonsil stones). These stones are most common during.
Microscopic studies of these tonsilloliths have shown them to contain a combination of food particles, bacteria, oral debris, and white blood cells in a concentrically laminated pattern -- rather like a pearl. Usually they are small gritty particles found in the center of soft, cheesy flecks. Sometimes, however, they become quite large, appearing as rough, yellow or gray, round stones. At times they reach an extraordinary size. Affected people usually have a history of repeated attacks in earlier years.
Most people with calculi of the tonsils have no associated symptoms. In that case nothing need be done, except perhaps for brushing or scraping them out, as your daughter does. Gargling, refraining from eating during the 30 minutes before falling asleep, and careful oral hygiene may help minimize their formation.
For some people, however, the calculi can be quite bothersome, causing a constant foreign-body sensation, a chronic low-grade, recurrent episodes of tonsillitis persisting beyond childhood, or chronic.
Treatment consists of either removing the tonsils or removing the calculi. Troublesome large calculi that are not easily dislodged may need an ear, nose, and throat doctor to remove them.
Not too long ago, for the sole crime of being swollen and inflamed. We didn't understand, then, that the tonsils purposely accept the infections to prevent the organisms from traveling deeper, and to show the invaders to the developing to train it for the future. The tonsils are selfless protectors. As a child becomes an adult, the tonsils usually begin to shrink; the watchful guardians of childhood are no longer much-needed.
Tonsils are a bit like parents: looming large early in life, diminishing over time, ever-protecting, ever-teaching, but sometimes with rough or hard spots when we let things build up'
 
butterflykel last decade
Ruddy, the first ENT I went to didn't even seem to know what tonsil stones were. The second ENT, however, knew exactly what they were and said he would remove my tonsils (I have not had it done yet). So, try to find another ENT.

My tonsils are VERY small and I am not experiencing any pain.
 
BettyCV last decade
Hello everyone. I`m new here and I just like to share some of my experiences with the white bumps in the throat- issue. I`ve had that problem on and off for ten years now. And about two weeks ago they got much better after taking HEPAR SULPH CM. The day after I took it, white/yellow mucus appeared all over both tonsils, really gross. Much worse than I`ve ever had. But then three days later, it was gone and my tonsils were smaller than they`ve been for the last ten years. And the two holes I`ve had in each tonsil was shrinking, without getting any yellow mucus in them. For other people with this same issue, I would recommend MERCUR IODATUS FLAVUS CM, for when the right tonsil is worst, and MERCUR IODATUS RUBER CM, if the left is worst. This is for the white/yellow spots on the (swollen- or not) tonsils. And Hepar Sulph, if that matches your symptoms. I just wanted to say that there is hope, cause I`m much better now and I will never let the doctors take my tonsils. I believe we are equipped with the them because our body needs them. They work like a barometer for the body, and tells it when to slow down and relax so it doesn`t get sick. If we take them away, I believe infections etc.will get to the body somehow and maybe on a more serious place.
 
Naomi last decade
I'm so glad I've found this forum. I have been suffering with these things on and off for many years now. I do find that they get worse when I get nose drip down the back of the throat and even when stressed. Also, acid reflux seems to make them occur quite frequently. I don't get them on my tonsils only at the base of my throat.

I have found that gargling with hydrogen peroxide (some times I dilute it and sometimes I use it straight) seems to help.

I also use collodial silver that really helps beat back any and all infections (viral, bacterial, and fungal).

I also use listerine (and off brand) and add essential oils of tea tree, clove, rosemary, thyme, oregano, cinnamon, myrrh, lemon, peppermint also add stevia liquid. shake it real well and add water. Makes a great mouth wash also helps with sore throat pain.

Hope this helps, I just wish I could get rid of them forever.
 
KnowNow last decade
Lots of people on here seem to be attributing PND as a cause of the stones. I don't normally have PND. If I get PND it gets worse and worse but I know that it's always a stone that's caused it.

I started with PND a couple of weeks ago. It got to the point where the drip made me cough - so I knew it was time to get the flashlight out and have a poke. Although I got most of he stones out I still had moderate PND when I'd finished which meant that the cause was an old stone that was seriously lodged somewhere. Next night I spent a good deal of time tackling it and after an hour I found the little bastard. It was quite small amd darker in colour than usual so it had been there a while. Out it came and PND stopped instantly. (I exagerate - half an hour then).

So PND in ME indicates a small old stone and it's time it was removed.

And using my ink jet refiller is scary. I squirted antiseptic solution down the start of one crypt and the stones came flying out of another. It's like there's a warren of tunnels in them tonsils.
 
albert22 last decade
Everyone who has done tonsillectomy and apply other different measures but are unable to get off there bad breath are requested to look at the new forum i have started in this forum, ABC Homeopathy. It is named Chronic Bad Breath/Halitosis, Coated Tongue, Post-Nasal Drip (tonsillectomy didn't help) NO PROBLEM.
I have resently presented a questionnare. Soon i will post all the symptoms, cause and cure of this debilitating problem. I also did tonsillecomy with no to avail and other different measures. Finally after doing tons of research,common sense, figuring our differnt things i have successfully cured it. I don't want other people in this world to live with this problem. So join the forum if you are interested.
 
pnd healer last decade
i came across this forum, after searching for symptoms for what i was experiencing...it seems to be a pretty common ailment (PHEW!)
a little history...i don't have allergies or post nasal drip. i smoke a pack a day, drink coffee and energy drinks more than i do water, under a LOT of stress lately, and drink beer about 3 times a week. the past few months i had a feeling of something stuck in my throat occassionally, a little tickle like a hair or something stuck back there. i have a cat, and assumed it was a small hair in there. thinking back, around the same time i noticed i developed a sometimes cough, which usually brings up pghlegm, yellowish to brownish. i looked with a flashlight for the 'hair', but i never saw any stones until the other day. i really freaked out, it's not normal to have white things in there. because i smoke, (12 years) i was thinking there was some cancerous things lurking back there. im not basing a diagnosis on what i read here, but it SEEMS i got the stones. what i saw was described here, and after a few days of trying and fighting against my gag reflex, i was able to remove the white spots on what i now know was my tonsil. they were small enough i used a coctail straw. my husband has said i have 'kitty litter breath' in the morning. thanks, my dear! i didn't even know where my tonsils were located until i researched online. i've never had strep, tonsilitis, and i rarely get sick, maybe 1 light cold in the winter. mine weren't really stonelike, and i did the smell test, but they were only slightly sulpher-y and not very smelly at all. i don't see any crypts, and mine seemed to be on the surface...i hope i don't develop any holes. i read some posts about people with really large ones, and i would be horrified if i picked out some of the stuff i read about! i had a hard enough time scraping the small ones off, and you're brave for dealing with that! i'm joining this forum as a small-fry, but i've read enough that im convinced this is what im experiencing. i'll keep you posted...
 
notsostinky last decade
notsostinky,
I'd say you need to run to the doctor quick! What you have doesn't sound as much like tonsil stones as it does an infection.
GL!

Oh! and to drink more water... i put a pitcher of water in the fridge with a slice of orange in it. Taste great.
 
justmebyanyname last decade
There is a post on here from a couple years back where a person said that they went to an ENT doc and the doctor had a 'sucky thing' which sucked the tonsil stones out. I wonder if one of these could be purchased by a non-professional?
Also, Lemon Sweet, they are not caused by 'an upset stomach'... where are you getting that? I think that they are part of the body's immune/detox response, since they tend to accompany colds, allergies, and times when the body is trying to get rid of toxins. They also seem to be related to MSG intake (and EVERYTHING has MSG in it now, especially vegetarian stuff so you really have to watch- it can be called 'autolyzed yeast extract', 'torula yeast', even sometimes 'natural flavors'- though not all natural flavors are MSG, of course!-).
Right now I think I have one, but it is different from the others that I've had, which are in the fold between tonsil and throat and can be popped out. This is right ON the tonsil, like covered with a thin layer of skin; and I cannot get it out. It has been there for weeks and I am experiencing sore throat and cold-type symptoms as a result. I just do not know how to get it out!! I feel like cutting a tiny hole there and then it would pop out, but I'm afraid I'd get an infection, which could be even worse. Any suggestions?
 
violetrinity last decade
'Not so stinky'- don't worry about it, I don't know what the person above me, 'justmebyanyname', is talking about- it does not sound like an infection, it sounds like ordinary tonsil stones to me. The phlegm is probably because of the smoking and that is not good; I'd get a lung x-ray if you haven't already recently. But the tonsil thing does not sound like an infection.
 
violetrinity last decade
Sorry, I keep reading more and need to comment again!
'Butterflykel', thanks; that is excellent (albeit choppy)information. I actually learned a few things.
Also 'Naomi', thanks for the homeo recommendations. I may try them- but just wondering why you used the Hepar Sulph but recommended something else. What were your specific symptoms that were different?
Also, I have heard that removing the tonsils is a bad idea- in fact most doctors will say this- unless you have a really serious condition. so I guess it depends upon how serious you consider this ailment to be for you.
That said, 'plantinga', I liked your argument! I love logic as well and your deducements made sense! I am wondering if you had a conventional tonsillectomy, or the newer, laser type? I have read that the laser procedure is much less painful and results in a doubly quick healing time. Anyone who has had this laser procedure, I'd really like to hear from you. Of course, anyone who has had it will probably not be on this board anymore, their problem being solved!
 
violetrinity last decade
Last time, I promise!!!

Can someone please elaborate on the 'vinegar' procedure for me? Are you gargling with it? Do you use apple cider vinegar, or white?
How much?
How often?
How many times?
For how long, each time?

Oh and one more thing: when I have had a suspected infection in concurrence with this, causing sore throat, swollen lymph nodes, etc., I have used oil of oregano (Oreganol brand) and taken the dropper and squirted the oil directly on my tonsil, and the next day I was totally well. I felt the results almost immediately- I could almost feel the incredibly strong oregano just killing off bacteria like crazy. I have not yet tried GSE (grapefruit seed extract) but it is an even stronger antiviral/antibacterial than is oregano, and so I am quite sure that it would have an effect equal to (if not surpassing that of) the oregano. Just squirt the liquid directly on the tonsil/s.
 
violetrinity last decade
I've luckily not have too many problems with Tonsilloliths. I get them once and awhile maybe one or two every few months. Back in March my right gland started to hurt and I felt something in my throat that felt like a popcorn kernel that got stuck. My throat started to hurt really bad to the point where it was difficult to talk. It went away in a few days but then it happened to the other gland, and that too went away in a few days. About 3 days ago I felt this again but my throat wasn't as sore. It is actually very bearable, it is just a little irritating. I looked at my throat and i saw a little white bump near my tonsils. I just googled tonsilloliths and the bump doesn't look like them. It is much smaller and a lot whiter. I poked at it with a Q tip and it makes my throat hurt so I guess that is the cause of my pain. I have no idea what it is, i thought it could have been a tonsillolith but I'm having my doubts now. Does anyone know what it could possibly be?
 
Al1590 last decade
Al1590-
I've gotten both tonsiloliths and something more like what you're describing, before. The 'whiter' white spot that hurt was part of a mild throat infection. When I developed more white spots, my doctor prescribed erythromycin and they went away. They were not something that I could knock out with a q-tip.

The tonsiloliths, on the other hand, are usually not accompanied by pain and are very clearly stones, rather than just spots.

I've been surprised by the number of people who describe tonsiloliths as painful or accompanied by swollen tonsils. When I get them, there is the 'popcorn kernel' sensation, but no pain. My tonsils are very small and never swollen or painful when I get tonsiloliths, and I don't associate them with fatigue or a weak immune system the way many others do.

My guess is that it's easier to get stones when your tonsils are swollen, anyway, but I don't think that the stones _cause_ the swelling, and I don't think that they themselves are an infection.
 
herbuveaux last decade
Tonsil stones grow on the surface of the skin of the tonsils...usually in crypts (holes) of the tonsils, but if you have a 'bump' with a layer of skin over it-it's a symptom of infection IN the tonsil that needs a doctors attention. Tonsil stones when they 'pop' out have a distinct odor when crushed.
 
justmebyanyname last decade
hi guys long time long talk,well let me tell u why i've been gone so long,I FINALLY REMOVED MY TONSILLS last friday and my advice is go do the same and 'mythbusted' it is not as painful and hectik as people say and yes the stones are completly gone and yes again the bad, u know what is 101% gone.The only time it was painful was about an hour after they where removed and when i tried to eat but i took this pain killer and the pain disappeared.I can even eat what ever i want.So guy stop wasting your time and get those things removed you will not even regret a bit about it.See u all later i will answer any uncertainties u have.
 
ruddy last decade
Well I found this forum when I did a search on this situation for my daughter. She is only 11 and has had these things in her throat off and on for quite some time. I know I have had them in the past as well.. but have not noticed any for a long time. Though now I will probably be searching for them. I think she was more worried that something was wrong with her.. but I told her I found lots of people who are afflicted with this problem. She also has taken a qtip and removed them from her throat.. and even saved some in a baggie so I could take them to her doctor. LOL I have never had her to the doctor for it and don't really see much point in it after reading so many of your posts. I suppose having her tonsils removed might be an option.. if it becomes more of a problem for her. But for now, I will just wait it out. Many of you posted that this could possibly be contagious and the appearance of them had been right around the time of your first boyfriend/girlfriend.. well, my daughter is a little young to assume this.. I think she is the youngest one on this forum afflicted by this nasty problem.
Good luck to all of you!!
 
pinkhorseofcourse last decade
Hey guys- It has been a LONG time since I posted on here. I had my tonsils removed in March 07- hoping it would relieve the bad taste in my mouth. I was hoping that the PND I had been experiencing was caused by the tonsilloliths and not vice versa, but unfortunately not so. I just wanted to say that, while I haven't experienced the nasty tonsil stone taste, I still have post nasal drip, and although there has been some debate, I feel that the pnd encourages the growth of tonsils stones, instead of the idea that the tonsils stones encourage pnd. I don't necessarily regret my surgery, because it has allowed me to discover the true culprit of the bad taste. Here's my advice to anyone with pnd and tonsil stones considering the surgery- perhaps try removing dairy products from your diet before going ahead with the surgery, and this might relieve the pnd and consequently will inhibit the growth of tonsil stones.
Good luck to all:)
 
katherine1 last decade
It's been a while since I've been here but wanted to chime in that I have had a long stretch of success with gargling peroxide 2x a day and then immediately having a tablespoon of raw honey- eating it slowly and letting it coat my mouth and throat. Make sure you don't drink anything for at least 20 or 30 minutes after the honey. I also gargle with Listerine when I wake up and before bed. It is vital not to eat anything at least 2 hrs. before bedtime- the bacteria has a field day when you're asleep. Also, make sure you brush your tongue and roof of your mouth after every meal or at least twice daily.

Also- the honey must be raw, I use 'Really Raw Honey'

Hope this helps.
 
assmouth last decade
hi, i had suffer from this condition, since i was 14 and i am 37 now, one of the most horribles, i had post nasal dripping, congestion, white bumps in throat, bad breath, etc, i had all the horrible caracteristics, of this condition, about 3 months ago, i stopped drinking and eating diaries, and using the nasal spray nasacort aq, and it help a little, but i had almost lost hope to find a definite solution, so i started praying very strongly about it, and i know god listen to my prays, i found the solution, to the extent that it had been the most marvelous days, i talk again with confidence, the product i am talking about is called smart mouth, is a mouthwash, that kills the bacteria and doesen't allow it to build up for 12 hours, they call it the 3rd. generation in mouth rinses, and it's in all department stores, i really, really think is doing to help you all, because my condition was one of the worst ones.

with all my heart i hope, and i will pray for this to work for you as well that it did for me, and if it does, please post about it, that way everybody gets to know about it and finally we all get rid of this, and thank god and offer him all the suffer that in the past you had to go trought because of this
 
solutionsearcher last decade

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