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Mikemo,
If it has been 11 dats why do you advise that I shopuld take more, even if simply small amounts. Is this not going to go away. It is not that I would advise this to anyone, but why take more know? Why not keep going. I see the Doctor tomorrow and I would love to discuss this with her.
Johnnie
 
johnnie last decade
Leonora,
The headaches I had. They lasted well into my 4th week.

Keep some Benedryl (Do not get the non-drowsy) for feeling of Nausea and dizziness. In my earlier post, I have explained how I used it to avoid getting drowsy.
Mine was so bad, that I hardly could do anything or drive for a few weeks.
However, Benedryl really helped me.

Based on my research online and reading tons of forums, it seems like most withdrawal symptoms came out when people completely stopped the med, no matter how slow they tapered off. (That is why my tapering period was only 5 weeks total.)

It seems like, from what I read, besides the crappy withdrawal effects, the most danger of a super quick or cold turkey, is becoming suicidal or an endanger to others.
 
kat1999 last decade
thanks kat1999 for the help and advice. so i will get the regular benadryl (not the non-drowsy) to avoid the dizziness and nausea. i was taking a generic antihistamine for a few days last week and the weird thing i noticed was that i did not suffer these headaches or nausea while i was taking them, only when i stopped.

i'm so upset about the pharm companies for this stupid medication that's caused me so much pain and trouble. it did get me through my depression but now it's killing me again. what was the point? i feel so miserable. i can't wait until this emotional and physical pain subsides.
 
leonora last decade
Leonora,
I feel exactly the same about these companies making money on our accounts. The sad thing is I took it for 12-13 years. No one, not one doctor questioned it.

I aree with you that I also can not wait until this emtional and physical pain to stop too.

Last night I was in tears wondering if it will ever stop. Than may be body has been so hooked on this that I will never be the same. But, there is nothing to do but give it time and patient (which is hard to do at our state of misery).
 
kat1999 last decade
I am so glad I found this forum. I need some advice from all of you fast. I was put on Effexor ER due to depression triggered by the death of my father. I've only been on the drug for 2 1/2 months but in that time I put on 12 pounds, experienced excessive fatigue, electrical jolts in my body, horrible brain fog and difficulty recalling information. I decided I didn't want to feel like this anymore and was ready to stop taking the medicine. I didn't know anything about withdrawal from this drug so I cold-turkey stopped 6 days ago. I have been on various SSRI's in the past (prozac, paxil, wellbutrin, etc.) for depression when I was in college. In the past, I never had a problem stopping the drugs. For the past six days off Effexor, however I have been in a living hell. The physical effects are aweful, worst of which is the dizziness and brain zaps.... those are so strange! What is worst for me though is the extreme anger I'm feeling. I feel like everything drives me into a rage. I've been yelling at everyone .... especially my poor husband. I cry at the littlest things and I just feel like a mess. I don't know what to do now. Should I try to get back on the medicine and wean off or just stick this out now that I've been without the pills for 6 days. Anyone who has had this problem please advise me!!!
 
lasposa last decade
you may find support here:
paxilprogress.org

resume your dosage immediatly, stabilise for some weeks and wean very very slowly!
take omega 3 for the brain zaps.
 
brick last decade
6 days with absolutely no meds is not such a short period. If it was me, I would only go mg/ backt to 37.5 for a couple of days and if it did not help at all I would have gone to 75 mg. Again, if it was me, after all my research I would have gone up slowly at this point.

You need to check with your doctor to see if Benedryl is not damaging to your unborn.
If so, it would help your dizziness and nauseousness.

Being pregnant, it is very important to be under the car e of a doctor. I would think the emotional rollercoaster,. The physical and psychological pain would also affect the unborn. However, I would not know how badly it would affect others In different situations.
 
kat1999 last decade
Thanks for the advice. It sounds like weaning slowly is the only way to go with this. Today I'm so shaky I can hardly hold anything in my hands or type. I'm not pregnant, so I don't need to worry about problems to an unborn child.... thank god! I do want to get off of this as soon as possible though since I would like to be able to get pregnant in a year or so. I was taking 150 mg of the Effexor ER.... could I ask the doctor for 75 mg to go back on? I find my doc kind of clueless so I think your advice is better since you can relate to this horrible withdrawal.
 
lasposa last decade
another question too... in my research this weekend some switched to a different drug to wean off. Could I take prozac instead of the effexor and then wean off that.... would that be easier?
 
lasposa last decade
changing drugs is adding problems to the cocktail. there is no drug to cure withdrawal. Although some people are lucky by switching to other meds. there is no way to prove if prozac could help you.prozac has it's own sets of sypmtoms..
 
brick last decade
I think you can break the ER in half to make the dose smaller. You can just call your pharmacy and check with them.

I agree about what brick says on the Prozac subject.

I tried to switch to Welbutrine, in hopes of it being easier to wean off of. But, then I had the withdrawal of the E. and the side effects of the Welbutine at the same time.
 
kat1999 last decade
I have been taking antidepressants for about 30 years since my doctor then told me that due to my chemical makeup, I would always have to be on a medication of this type. After having been on Effexor for at least 5 or more years, I started having strange 'sensations' in my head bordering on dizzy. My doc ordered an MRI which was clear. I began to suspect Effexor so I decided to taper off under my doctor's direction. I was taking 300 mg and began tapering 75 mg at a time with 1 week in between reductions. I had no withdrawal symptions until I had been completely off for about a week. I became very dizzy, nauseated, with extreme emotions--crying one minute, laughing the next--irritability, stomach upsets, vivid dreams. So after reading other people's symptoms, I found that withdrawal symptoms can be delayed. I also found an excellent, helpful book, The Road Back which is a free book you can download or read online detailing how best to get off these types of medications. I wish I had seen this site before since the book provides a method of pre-tapering then tapering off the med. However, if you're like me and have already gotten off the med and are having severe withdrawal, they suggest taking an Omega 3 with a high EPA for the head symptoms and ginger tea for the nausea. I got what is called Nordic Naturals Complete Omega 3-6-9 at GNC and it has helped the dizziness considerably. I'm still somewhat dizzy, but I can at least function at this level. The ginger tea very much helped the nausea. The book is very detailed, but I did these two things to get immediate help. I will continue to read this book, monitor my withdrawal, and pray that these symptoms will begin to subside. I go to an Internist and have been to several in my life and they really don't seem to have a clue about these drugs which is scary since they prescribe them liberally.
 
jfrich last decade
It's been one week since I stopped taking effexor completely. As I tapered gradually , I had minimal side-effects. 3 days after stopping totally I started developing the very popular brain zaps , now I know what they are, it almost feels like a jolt in my head, very very strange. Along with that I feel very anxious at times. How long will these last ? I felt like going back on the drug a few times. I initially went on effexor for sleeping issues and my doctor said it would calm me down at night I wish I would have known this. Thx for all the support in the channel.
 
royalflush last decade
Mike, Help!! I tried to cut back, just a little. Not even what you suggested. Terrible headaches, brain zaps galore and dizziness!! I can't take it!! I went back to the full dose and took two beads out for the next couple days. Still, I have wierd head sensations and my memory is SHOT! PLEASE TELL ME THE MEMORY COMES BACK....... i pride myself on being the ultimate multitasker and now I can't remember the conversation from 5 min ago! Not to mention trying to type this and I'm a freak on spelling!!!!
 
CathyB last decade
CathyB, go online to read the free book, The Road Back. You can also print it out for free. It will help. I have and continue to go through what you're going through. I have felt like I am a prisoner in my own brain! However, I am very gradually getting better after taking the Omega 3 and ginger tea for nausea. Based on reading other comments, you will feel normal again, but everyone's timeframe seems to be different.
 
jfrich last decade
Royalflush, Hang in there. It will get better.

Lasposa,
How are you doing?

Cathy B, what does did you go down to from? and what are you at now. It will get better. It just takes some time. Hang in there.
 
kat1999 last decade
kat1999

I was taking 10 of the beads out of the pill. I'm currently on 75mg, so this wouldn't even be cutting it in half. I'm terrified if I were to cut it in half how bad the withdrawals will be. I picked up some Omega 3 but that didn't seem to make a difference. I'm tempted to try prozac to wean myself off this nasty stuff since I read that isn't as hard to get off of. This stuff is awful, I can't believe my dr didn't tell me about this.
 
CathyB last decade
I think they are all hard to get off of. What if prozac would not help you and cause you additional side effects?
I don't know if you read my post. I did the same thing with Welbutrine. But, that was not a succes.
I am surprised that you are having such a hard time weaning off of 75 mg. this early.
You said 'I was taking 10 of the beads out of the pill. I'm currently on 75mg, so this wouldn't even be cutting it in half.' So, you took 10 granulas out the first day and then you had all those side effects. Did I understand that correctly?
If that is the case Go back up to 4 granullas and reduce by 5 every 3-4 days.

B-12 and B-complex is supposed to help too. I even took evening primrose with it to calm me down a bit.

When I was going through it, even the first week seemed like a life time.

Just go a little slower and see what happens.
 
kat1999 last decade
kat1999

I took 10 beads out for 4 days in a row, the 5th day started getting dizzy and the withdrawals began. Even with Bendadryl. Before it didn't effect me too much if I didn't take my dose at the same time everyday. Now it's insane before I get to the 24th hour. I went back to the full dose for a couple days. Now yesterday & today cut back by 3-4 beads. I picked up Emergen-C with B vitamins -seems to help a little with the energy but not the brain zaps. I'll check into the primrose as well. Ugh. This is just so scary! I don't need to lose my job because I can't function or remember.
 
CathyB last decade
My opinion abou the road back and label me sane products. take care with them, they can help some people but give others a terrible setback. I've tried both and none worked for me to get rid of paxil. you need to supplement yourself with a good multivitamin, although some people dont tolerate b vitamins (anxiety). omega 3 is really good to improve brain function and eliminate brain zaps. the only tricks to succeed are time and super slow tapers.
 
brick last decade
NO SIDE EFFECTS OF WITHDRAWAL WHILE USING 5-HTP (200mg X 2or3/day)

Background information first:
I am a Male and Began Taking Effexor XR 75mg at age 31 for ANXIETY
I have been taking between (1) 37.5mg to (3) 37.5mg per day for 5 years now…

Finally Decided that I wanted to quit the Effexor and here is how I did it without any “Brain Shivers”, believe me…I know exactly how it feels and it is no fun to say the least….

1.#1 - Goto a “GOOD” NaturoPathic Doctor and have them work with you to first get the following items in order:
a) Get all your Organs and Glands “Talking to each other again” using a Bio-Feedback Machine (ie. Inergetix or SCIO)
b) Use HomeoPathics to Get your Pineal, Pituitary, HypoThalmus, Thyroid, Adrenal, Liver & Lymphatic Systems back in Shape again (Effexor very slowly begins to shut down communication of the Organs and Glands in your entire body)
2. Raise your Body PH Level back to Normal (ie. 7.0 is normal) although I am still stuck at a 6.0 (most likely due to the Highly Acidic Nature of Effexor and ALL Prescription Medications…!!!)…notice how they call them “Medications” and do not use the word “HEAL”…!!!!!!..THEY DO NOT WANT TO HEAL US, BUT PROLONG OUR RELIANCE ON THEM…THEY WANT OUR WALLETS….$$$$$$$$

3. Taper off slowly from whatever dose that you are taking down to 37.5mg and begin taking “5-HTP” and offset from your daily dose of 37.5mg (yes they say it is dangerous to take the HTP, but that is only when you are taking large doses of Effexor, ie. 100mg and over).

4. 1st ….Week: Begin alternating days of Effexor (ie. begin with skipping the Effexor 37.5mg every other day for the first week and taking the 5-HTP steadily throughout the week)…don’t forget that it takes at least a week for the 5-HTP to begin building and working in the body. The dosage will vary for everybody (I took 200mg 2 to 3 times daily throughout the 3 weeks that I was tapering off of the Effexor

5. 2nd ….Week try 2 day lapses without Effexor “or” for as long as you can before getting “Brain Zaps”

6. 3rd ….Week try 3 day lapses without Effexor or for as long as you don’t get the “Brain Zaps” and just keep going longer and longer with the help of the 5-HTP…until you no longer require the Effexor anymore….Remember….the KEY is to first see a “very well qualified”(15+ Years of Experience) NaturoPath to repair the damage that the Effexor has done to your body….PERIOD…

7. You will most likely have “Crying Fits” or other unusual behavior which means that you are “TOO HIGH ON SERATONIN…CUT BACK ON THE 5-HTP…!!!”

8. If you have any questions…feel free to ask them on this site…as I will check back now and then…
 
5-HTP MAN_01 last decade
i almost forgot…pain…pain…pain…
to counter the effects of hypertension and headaches…also begin with a regimen of:

serrapeptase…serrapeptase… serrapeptase…serrapeptase

natural pain killer….natural pain killer…highly effective….

serrapeptase…is a “natural” painkiller…and it takes a 3 (three) days to kick in…but believe me…your body will thank you….
 
5-HTP MAN_01 last decade
Cathy B,
It may be best for you to do what you are doing having to work and all. The reduction of 3-4 beads might be best for you. (I was doing 5 per day, and some days more if I felt ok.)

Just listen to what your body tells you. Some days when you feel crappy, go 2 days at the same dose before lowering again.

Hang in there.

Walking would help if you can get yourself to do it.
 
kat1999 last decade
First I want to say that I'm shocked this thread started in 2003, and here we all are still fighting this horrible drug. Meanwhile docs are handing it out and have NO idea about withdrawal symptoms, to the point of almost claiming there is no such thing.

My hubby was feeling blue last year and we went to a therapist, she suggested he try an anti-D. We went to our family doc and she gave the effexor because she had 'samples'. Yes, I know all about the cute guys & gals that come by doc offices handing out free pens and merchandise to get docs to buy this crap.

Anyway, after reading almost all of these posts I begged my hubby to get off Effexor. I meant 'taper' but he secretly went cold turkey. I came home after day 4 of him cold turkey and he was waiting in the living room, almost ready to pounce like a lion. His face almost looked like he had on a mask, it was NOT him. He was evil looking and he started in on me, yelling and saying stuff that was really mean. He is NOT a mean guy at all, in fact normally he's a total sweetheart.

I cried and begged him to tell me what I did wrong, and then POOF I remembered this thread and I asked him if he had taken his med. He said, 'I went cold turkey!!!' I was so scared and shocked.

I was able to talk him off the ledge and then came to this site and printed several of the stories to show him it was the drug, NOT HIM, that was making him evil. We both cried and decided to get him a psych to get him off.

He went to a psych 3 weeks ago and he perscribed him 37.5 (was on 75) and told him to just start taking those. Luckily I knew he should 'wean' so we took some pellets out of 75s for a few days.

Now is on 37.5 and doc gave him Elavil. I am so afraid of what it'll do to get off the 37.5. He's getting acupuncture and starting to feel really good. I am thinking he should start taking pellets slowly out of 37.5 and then near the end start the Elavil at night.

Doc said Elavil would help him wean off and also because he has terrible stomach disorders (which I think Effexor only made worse).

Sorry for the ramble, but it makes me sick this company is still selling this drug with its horrible withdrawals, knowing damn well you'd rather stay on it than quit. I can't imagine if I had made a product and saw this many people having probs with it that I'd continue selling it, unless my ONLY motivation was the almight dollar.

Thanks for reading. I am scared to death of the coming weeks of him coming off the Eff. but I want him off it - and never again.
 
worriedwife last decade
to worried wife:
do yourself a favour and google the side effects of elavil...

do you still not get that doctors are literally drug dealers of the worst kind...so now your doctor not only debilitated your husband to the point of 'turning absolutely evil on you' but now you are helping him to take elavil which has many withdrawal symptoms and death dealing side effects as well...!!!!!

do you still not get it?????

the only way to get off of pharmaceutical prescriptions is ''''naturally''''....

the equivalent of 7 jumbo jets filled to the brim with innocents...die each and every single day due to the insidiously evil pharmaceuticals that are pushed onto the public relentlessly and without even a thought to a persons overall well being....

please...i am begging you...do not be another victim of these homicidal drug dealing / pimping whackos....!!!!!!!!!

as far as i am concerned...all allopathic doctors should be tried for 1st degree murder....and be dosed with all of the medications that they have been prescribing throughout their pathetic little lives....!!!!!

if you want your husband to get off safely and with little effort or withdrawals...refer to my previous post (2 above yours)...

if you have any questions please feel free to ask me...
 
5-HTP MAN_01 last decade
NO SIDE EFFECTS OF WITHDRAWAL WHILE USING 5-HTP (200mg X 2or3/day)

Background information first:
I am a Male and Began Taking Effexor XR 75mg at age 31 for ANXIETY
I have been taking between (1) 37.5mg to (3) 37.5mg per day for 5 years now…

Finally Decided that I wanted to quit the Effexor and here is how I did it without any “Brain Shivers”, believe me…I know exactly how it feels and it is no fun to say the least….

1.#1 - Goto a “GOOD” NaturoPathic Doctor and have them work with you to first get the following items in order:
a) Get all your Organs and Glands “Talking to each other again” using a Bio-Feedback Machine (ie. Inergetix or SCIO)
b) Use HomeoPathics to Get your Pineal, Pituitary, HypoThalmus, Thyroid, Adrenal, Liver & Lymphatic Systems back in Shape again (Effexor very slowly begins to shut down communication of the Organs and Glands in your entire body)
2. Raise your Body PH Level back to Normal (ie. 7.0 is normal) although I am still stuck at a 6.0 (most likely due to the Highly Acidic Nature of Effexor and ALL Prescription Medications…!!!)…notice how they call them “Medications” and do not use the word “HEAL”…!!!!!!..THEY DO NOT WANT TO HEAL US, BUT PROLONG OUR RELIANCE ON THEM…THEY WANT OUR WALLETS….$$$$$$$$

3. Taper off slowly from whatever dose that you are taking down to 37.5mg and begin taking “5-HTP” and offset from your daily dose of 37.5mg (yes they say it is dangerous to take the HTP, but that is only when you are taking large doses of Effexor, ie. 100mg and over).

4. 1st ….Week: Begin alternating days of Effexor (ie. begin with skipping the Effexor 37.5mg every other day for the first week and taking the 5-HTP steadily throughout the week)…don’t forget that it takes at least a week for the 5-HTP to begin building and working in the body. The dosage will vary for everybody (I took 200mg 2 to 3 times daily throughout the 3 weeks that I was tapering off of the Effexor

5. 2nd ….Week try 2 day lapses without Effexor “or” for as long as you can before getting “Brain Zaps”

6. 3rd ….Week try 3 day lapses without Effexor or for as long as you don’t get the “Brain Zaps” and just keep going longer and longer with the help of the 5-HTP…until you no longer require the Effexor anymore….Remember….the KEY is to first see a “very well qualified”(15+ Years of Experience) NaturoPath to repair the damage that the Effexor has done to your body….PERIOD…

7. You will most likely have “Crying Fits” or other unusual behavior which means that you are “TOO HIGH ON SERATONIN…CUT BACK ON THE 5-HTP…!!!”

8. If you have any questions…feel free to ask them on this site…as I will check back now and then…
 
5-HTP MAN_01 last decade

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