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To Libra

Thank you for having brought the reaction that your daughter had when she took Nat Sulph 6x instead of Nat Phos 6x. The reaction that she had was what is known as Proving the remedy. You may know that Homeopathy was born when Hahnemann discovered that if large doses of Quinine extract were used that symptoms similar to Malaria were noticed with rigors and high temperature.

Your daughter was proving the remedy which I prescribe in almost all cases of Asthma but for this ailment a higher potency of it Nat Sulph 6c is used which is far less a dose when compared with Nat Sulph 6x. The 6x potency is exactly 1/1Millionth of the salt Sodium Sulphate or Glauber's Salt which is a chemical commonly used in the formulation of medical drugs. Nat Sulph 6c is exactly 1 Million Millionth of this salt and it will be observed that it is 1 Million times the dose that your daughter used accidentally. However I am glad to note that no damage was done and I shall remember this news that you were kind enough to record on this forum.

I hope that other Homeopaths will note this phenomenon as this all contributes to the study of Homeopathy. Incidents such as this help us to remember more forcefully that what we have studied in out texts have been formulated by the classical authors after actual tests (provings) were made by them over the past 150 years.

I notice that you have used the first person 'I' to report this case of your daughter who according to you, took the Nat Sulph 6x instead of the Nat Phos 6x by mistake. Please clarify who used the Nat Sulph 6x. You or your daughter ?

There is no need for your daughter to take any medication except the Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets after both lunch and dinner, for weight reduction. Please tell her that the taboos of coffee and cold drinks must not be used during treatment as weight reduction does not occur if these taboos are used.

Thank you once again for having brought this accidental use of Nat Sulph 6x instead of Nat Phos 6x to my attention.

Please report your daughter's response to the Nat Phos 6x in a week when you can expect a drop in her weight of at least 1 pound.

Joe De Livera
 
Joe De Livera last decade
To Joe
Thank you very much for the prompt reply.
I have to clarify that it was my daughter who took Natrum Sulph 6x instead of Natrum Phos 6x

in case Nat Sulph has "brought out" her old symptoms will it not be advisible for her to use Nat Sulph 6X or 6c to releive her of her old and suppressed ailment (as you advise) and if so can she also take simultaneously Nat Phos 6x for weight reduction. if so in what order should she take both medicines.

One thing more, if by taking a medicine, old symptoms appear, of course this is a good sign of correct medicine , but if the intensity of symtoms is incresed by 2nd or third dose as in case of my daughter, what should be done. Should the medicine be stopped or its dosage or repetition be reduced.

You take so much interest in each and every case refered to you is highly commendable.
Libra
 
libra last decade
Thank you for putting the record straight that it was your daughter that took the Nat Sulph 6x instead of the Nat PHOS 6x.

There is no need whatever for her to antidote the Nat Sulph 6x as she has got over the slight Asthmatic condition which this remedy brought on.

She can continue to take only the Nat Phos 6x and report her response in a few weeks or earlier if she notices any reduction above 1 pound per week which is usual.

Thank you for your kind thoughts about me. I am always glad to advise anyone who posts on this forum especially on threads that I have started, with remedies that I feel can help them.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Thank you so much I will report the progress after aweekor so.
Libra
 
libra last decade
Joe, I tried taking Nat phos6x for 15 days and could not reduce me weight. Today I was reading bad effects of artificial sweetner under Carbonated Beverages/Artificial Sweeteners
and realized that I am taking 'EQUAL' for more than a year and use it three times a day for my 3 cups of tea. Could this be a culprit?
I love drinking tea but can not without sugar and dont want to eat sugar as well, which sweetner is safe?

Thanks
 
karishma last decade
As I have stated before Nat Phos 6x, when used for weight reduction is extremely shy. It will work wonderfully to alleviate gastric conditions but will only reduce weight if there is no impediment to the acceleration of the digestive process that it makes which is the way it reduces weight, by not permitting the food to stay as long as it usually does in the gut.

Cola drinks, coffee and preserved meats with saltpeter like sausages, bacon ham are taboo.

I had not thought of artificial sweetners but presume that this too can be a reason. You can safely take a little sugar with your tea and also think of other food or drink that may cause you to slow down your digestion which can cause constipation as you will have to avoid them to reduce weight.

The success rate is better than 90% and thousands are using it and the majority have benefitted. It is now also being used commercially in some health farms where I understand it is being sold at premium prices.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Thanks Livera for the valuable information,I will try in my clinical practice & will shortly inform you about the results.
 
drprabhatlkw last decade
Joe, I've just read some of the reports on Nat Phos 6X. I am a woman, age 43 that has about 15-18 lbs to lose. I am not a huge fan of drinking water, however as I am going to the bathroom every 5 min. it seems. I'm getting the impression that Nas Phos 6X will have a diuretic effect on the body, am I correct? Also, when would one stop taking it and not gain the weight back? Thank you in advance for your input!
 
freenmaddie last decade
Karishma

Stevia is suppose to be a natural sweetner. Honey is also a good option for those who can take it.

Stevia is available at Trader Joe's or the health food store and may be even Raley's.

Artificial sweetners can be very bad. They can cause awful pain too.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Hi Joe and everyone who contributed to this forum.

My name is Liz and I'm new to homeopathy. I've been reading textbooks and will be enrolling in a few homeopathy courses to get a better grasp of this amazing science.

Joe--I tried you Nat Phos 6x remedy for obesity. The first 2 days there was a lot of urination, which was experienced by others in this forum. It seemed to show promise as a diuretic.

I've been using this for two weeks now and I've noticed for the last week or so that I've been developing the symptoms that Nat Phos treats. If I'm correct, this means that I'm proving the remedy.

I appreciate everyone's input in this forum and I wanted to share my experience. I believe I will be discontinuing this as I've always had a cast iron stomach and now I'm getting heartburn/sour stomach. This in itself is an interesting discovery but means that Nat Phos is probably not for everyone.

I think I will start up again with Calc Carb in a few weeks or so.

Thanks all!

--Liz, New York
 
pooksi last decade
Let me add my kudos and thanks to Joe de Livera who started and maintains these posts. You have proposed an interesting weight loss method and I'm sure it has helped and will continue to help many people who struggle with this issue.

We are all unique and all methods do not work the same for everyone, but props and appreciation should be given to those who take the time and effort to aid others.

Thanks again, love and energy to all.

--Liz
 
pooksi last decade
Dear Joe,
What do you think about using Vanadium as apetite supressant in low doses (D6-D8)?

thanks.
 
Albert last decade
Dear Joe,

I am 37 yr old, 5'6' in height, 95kgs in weight.

I want to reduce weight and making up my mind to use your nat phos 6X for the purpose.

I am also suffering from bloated abdomen, fatigue and less sleep problems.

Pls suggest.
 
nr12131 last decade
Hair loss

From Salim5566 [Log on to view profile] on 2009-07-11
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I am male. My age is 20. My family member's has no problem about hair. But now my scalp is much oily. And my hair is falling. First of all i had allergy problem till age of 17. after that now i am reduce from allergy. After that i realize that my hair is falling. Then i go to the doctor. he suggest me to take E-Cap. So i was started to take E-Cap everyday. When my age was 13 or 14 i used everyday 'gets by' hard gel. And do back brush of my hair. But from my little age i was in depression, angriness, silent, thinking. And i wasn't able to mix with everyone. Because that time i was felt shy to talk with anyone. But now I am ok. Now i am jolly minded. I used 3 E-cap on my hair every night. And some of my hair is white now. After useing E-Cap my grandfather suggest me to use 'mother thinser' with coconut oil. And suggest me to take 'kali sulph 12X' 3 times a day. I can't remember when i was attacked with dandruff. But after taking all that i was attacked with dandruff. After that my grandfather was dead. So then i choose a homeopathy doctor. He suggest give me the named 'jaboranti' instead of 'mother thinser' with coconut oil. i just use one day . In that day i saw my hair is serious falling after use that. For that reason i stopped that. after all that i was so much tensed. i had some personal problem too. Then i can't sleep that much. so i started to take sleeping medicine. and sometime i drunk Alcohol I mean whiskey, wine like that. Because that time i had failed in exam and i had lost my girlfriend. After 5 to 7 months i felt my life is not finished. my girlfriend came back again in my life. and i give exam again. that time i passed. Then i become confident. After that i go to another homeopathy doctor. He give me some medicine what is made by him. He suggest me not to take onion, tea, coffee, alcohol. But i couldn't trust him. After taking his medicine i didn't go to the doctor again. For done something in my life (family Problem) I lost my confident. And i can't trust anyone such as my mother, father, borthers too. My family condition is so so. After all that i am spending my life good and i feel better now. Because i am now separate. My family sent money for me. I used the shampoo named 'Nizoral'. After that i go to a Alopathy doctor. He suggest to take norzin, Flucess 150mg, cetrin and so on step by step. And suggest me to use fongiter shampoo. At that time i feel my scalp is much oily. Till now i am feeling my scalp is much oily. and my skin face skin is oily too. I am tensed about falling of my hair and I think that the hair is falling for oily scalp. Now i have girlfriend and i am living better but only one tensed have in my life is that hair falling. i have much hair now too. I think my hair quatities is look like the actor 'saif ali khan'. my age is only 20 years. So plz give me suggestion to stop hair loss. I don't know hair regrowing is possible or not. But i heard that in homeopathy it is possible. And i am from Bangladesh. Plz Plz Plz help me. I don't want to be bald. Someone suggest me to take weisbaden. I am so tensed plz help me plz plz plz plz plz plz.....

Re: Hair loss From Salim5566 [Log on to view profile] on 2009-07-15
Plz can any doctor halp me. Mein bahot pareshun hoon. Mein yeh post kiya hai 4 din ho gaya hain per koi jabab nahi hai. Kiya mujhe koi homeopathy doctor help nahi kar sakta. Plz mujhe jaldi inform kijiye. Har din 20 to 30 hair loss ho rahi hai. Jab mein shower lene jatiho tabh hair mein hath deneke sath sath hair pare jati hein. Plz Plz Plz help me hurry up. I am afraid of losing my hair.
 
Salim5566 last decade
2009-07-29
Sir,
I have cut my hair. and use Arnica Q 8ml With 85ml coconut oil. But now i felt hurt and my scalp is full of pimples and i am feeling hurt too. some of these looking yellow in color. I am very afraid about that plz give me an solution. Now i stop to using oil on my head. Plz Joe u can save me i think from this problem. i don't want to try so much powerful medicine. I am losing my appetite now.
 
Salim5566 last decade
After cutting hair. I am taking lycopodium vacatum but now on my scalp has enough pimples And sometimes it grew yellow colour. I feel hurt too. Plz plz plz help me plz.
 
Salim5566 last decade
I have one question. why can you not drink coffee and you can drink tea. would just one small cup of coffee in the morning affect the outcome of the nat phos 6x
 
juniebug09 last decade
nice information on reduction of weight loss;
thanks for sharing your information
 
instascupt11 8 years ago
please give me solution for dandruff... as my brother is loosing hair due to dandruff.
is nat phos 6x good for me to take as im a bit overweight just 5 kgs.

sharon
 
SHARON22083 8 years ago
Hello Dr Joe
I am new to this forume and I have noticed that you had several people whom had success with taking NAT Phos 6x for weight reduction. Well, since I have suffered a lot from side effects from using weight reduction medications like meridia I plan on giving this a shot. One note though I only need to lose 4 pounds and keep them off. This is actually the target which I have been suffering with for a very long time since I stopped Meridia. Cause everytime I stop and although I follow a very good diet , I put on 8 to 10 pounds within 6 months and then I go back to take Meridia for a month then I drop the 10 pounds etc. I don't want to take Meridia not only cause it is FDA banned now. But it also ramatically increases my essential Tremor (mainly head) as well as trigger Urinary tract infections which i am able to control by using cranberry. I would appreciate very much your advice on how to maintain my weight using NAT Phos 6x. One last question can I eat canned tuna or is it also considered 'preserved meat'. Thank you so much
 
real lady 8 years ago
Hi Joe,

My name is Ramya. I have read all your posts about Nat Phos 6x for weight Reduction.

Your are really doing an amazing job by helping the People with your Discoveries.

Even i want to use Nat Phos 6x for Weight Reduction.

Also please suggest me a medicine( preferrably oil) for my hair fall.

Please please reply me soon.
 
ramya 8 years ago
MY APOLOGIES TO ALL WHO HAVE POSTED FOR MY ATTENTION ON THIS THREAD.

I have not received the automatic email alert since my last post in 2005 and I have just read this thread today as it seemed familiar.

I shall reply the posts individually starting from the latest separately.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
To Ramya

Thank you for your kind words which are appreciated.

Take 2 tablets Nat Phos 6x twice daily and report your response in a week when you can expect a reduction of at least 1kg which is standard.

I shall copy below my therapy for Hair Loss below:

The following remedies will help to arrest the loss of hair and wil also help to regrow the hair in about 2 months.

Arnica Q or Mother Tincture 30ml bottle
Olive Oil 200 ml
Arnica 30c in the Liquid Dilution in Ethanol
500ml bottle of Spring water or Bottled water sold in supermarkets.
Any good Fish Liver Oil in capsule form.

Method:

Pour 80ml Olive oil into a bottle and mix it with 20ml Arnica Q. Shake the bottle and the Arnica will form an emulsion with the Olive Oil.

Wet the finger tips with the emulsion and part your hair and apply the oil directly on the roots of the hair and spend some time in massaging it into the scalp which should show an oily shine. This is done daily for best results after a shower.

Make a Wet dose of Arnica 30 as follows:

Order Arnica 30c in a 5ml in the Liquid Dilution in Ethanol in a bottle with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you take a capfull which is a dose twice daily. This is best taken first thing in the morning and last thing before bed.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before a capful of the bottle is sipped as directed.

Take a capsule of the Fish Liver Oil daily.

Use Johnsons Baby Shampoo daily for your shower which will help to wash away the perspiration from the scalp which causes the bacteria that are responsible for your Dandruff to propogate.

Avoid Coffee, preserved meats like sausages, ham and bacon, and all canned cola beverages as they antidote the therapy.

It is understood that you will STOP all other remedies and drugs you are taking today.

Drink plenty of water and exercise daily for at least 45 minutes like walking or jogging depending on your age. The idea is to sweat it out. This is essential to promote the circulation of blood in the body which Arnica will help to promote.

Patients who suffered from severe hair loss who were losing over 200 hairs daily have confirmed that they discovered in about a week that the loss of their hair had been arrested. They also noticed that the new growth was plainly visible above their scalp when their hair was parted in about 6 weeks.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
To Real Lady

You will take 2 tablets Nat Phos 6x twice daily and report your response in 2 weeks. It is absolutely safe in use and you can expect a loss of at least 1kg per week.

You cannot however take any other drugs nor eat any food which used Saltpeter as the preservative as it will antidote the Homeopathy.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
To Sharon

I shall copy my therapy for Hair Loss below:

The following remedies will help to arrest the loss of hair and wil also help to regrow the hair in about 2 months.

Arnica Q or Mother Tincture 30ml bottle
Olive Oil 200 ml
Arnica 30c in the Liquid Dilution in Ethanol
500ml bottle of Spring water or Bottled water sold in supermarkets.
Any good Fish Liver Oil in capsule form.

Method:

Pour 80ml Olive oil into a bottle and mix it with 20ml Arnica Q. Shake the bottle and the Arnica will form an emulsion with the Olive Oil.

Wet the finger tips with the emulsion and part your hair and apply the oil directly on the roots of the hair and spend some time in massaging it into the scalp which should show an oily shine. This is done daily for best results after a shower.

Make a Wet dose of Arnica 30 as follows:

Order Arnica 30c in a 5ml in the Liquid Dilution in Ethanol in a bottle with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you take a capfull which is a dose twice daily. This is best taken first thing in the morning and last thing before bed.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before a capful of the bottle is sipped as directed.

Take a capsule of the Fish Liver Oil daily.

Use Johnsons Baby Shampoo daily for your shower which will help to wash away the perspiration from the scalp which causes the bacteria that are responsible for your Dandruff to propogate.

Avoid Coffee, preserved meats like sausages, ham and bacon, and all canned cola beverages as they antidote the therapy.

It is understood that you will STOP all other remedies and drugs you are taking today.

Drink plenty of water and exercise daily for at least 45 minutes like walking or jogging depending on your age. The idea is to sweat it out. This is essential to promote the circulation of blood in the body which Arnica will help to promote.

Patients who suffered from severe hair loss who were losing over 200 hairs daily have confirmed that they discovered in about a week that the loss of their hair had been arrested. They also noticed that the new growth was plainly visible above their scalp when their hair was parted in about 6 weeks.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
To Instascup

Thank you for your appreciation of my efforts to help suffering humanity.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago

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