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Bring another bottle, put just 1 or 2 in.

In water dosing, number of pillules does matter.


Take a teaspoon from there just once.
 
sameervermani last decade
Ok.

I'll have to go out now and buy another bottle of water!

I only have one pillule left, so no issue with any error this time... It was because it was a tiny container with a cork as lid, so I couldn't pour the amount into the lid..
 
Sorrel last decade
It's a 500ml bottle, should I pour half out before I start?

And, am I taking one dose, or the 3 spread 30 minutes apart?
 
Sorrel last decade
Sorry, just saw it's only once!

Just need clarification on amount of water please, thanks. :)
 
Sorrel last decade
250 ml is fine.
 
sameervermani last decade
Ok. Will take it later this evening. Thanks. :)
 
Sorrel last decade
Nawaz I appreciate your diplomacy. I can tend to lecture - this comes from my years as a homoeopathic teacher.

Again, I did not want to imply that Conium cannot be the remedy, only that I could not see it. Because I do not know everything, cannot see every possibility, I am happy always to discuss possible remedy choices by looking at the reasons they are prescribed. Without reasons, rubrics, symptoms, provings etc. it is hard to have any kind of meaningful discussion.

I cannot imagine running my clinic with several people in the room all insisting that a different remedy is the right one. I could not work in such chaos every day!
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
^ Sounds like my head, although not in relation to remedy choice, mostly!

I slept well last night, and I feel so tired, so sleepy. Dreamed a lot about teaching again a very clingy and needy, but also strong and independent, child that I once taught. A little girl. She was 6.

Still a lot of excess saliva and hence spitting out this morning, but it did feel looser, less tight.

For a while yesterday evening I felt angry at the homeopath I saw, and how he handled things, and how it wasn't helpful for me.

I felt a little elated for a while yesterday evening, then kind of flat. This morning I feel sad and a little tearful. These fluctuations of feelings are fairly normal for me, so may not be totally connected to the remedy, but there does feel a thread of connection.

Unless there's anything major, I'll leave it a few days and report back then, yes? :)
 
Sorrel last decade
We will know in 4-5 days whether this is curative or not. Since this is only a 30c, we can tell sooner as any aggravation will only last 2-3 days.
 
sameervermani last decade
Sameer! i hope this reply is for me but mistakenly posted here.
 
Paki1 last decade
Ok.

So today everything's all stirred up, and I feel angry and miserable.
Admittedly I've had a stressful time arranging an appointment for seeing the Occupational Health/EAP Doctor - my managers referred me. Then a challenging therapy session. And it's freezing cold here. And I am in PMS phase.

But some of it could be aggravation.

How do you know what is what? My period is due to start early next week.
 
Sorrel last decade
Hi Sorrel,

Let us wait for 2 more days, and if things don't improve on Lyssin (I personally don't think it is going to work but still it is better to give it a total of 4-5 days from when you took the dose), we can go to Lachesis.

Sameer
 
sameervermani last decade
In long standing chronic mental health cases, there is a lot of stirring up of old feelings and issues. I have seen mental health cases take weeks to process all the old emotional traumas they have been clinging on to. It is important to give a remedy time to work before changing to a new remedy, or things will become very confusing.

30c may not be high enough to get deeply into the problem as well. If a remedy does not go deeply enough it will not have much of an effect.

30c is a low-medium potency - I usually prescribe 200 or 1M for cases with strong mental or emotional suffering. Potency is a very important facet of treatment that needs to be sorted out as well as the remedy choice.

Aggravation will occur most strongly in 3-5 days from taking the dose. Typically aggravation will begin to reduce by the end of the first week. The second week will tend to settle towards where you were before the remedy but some changes will be noticed. As the week progresses more improvement should be seen. In the third week it is most obvious what kind of improvement has happened.

Aggravation is always a worsening of current symptoms/feelings, or it is a return of old symptoms/feelings. The intensity may be slightly higher than normal. There should be no marked or important new symptoms. Aggravation feels different to your normal disease because it is odd in some way - symptoms are occurring without triggers, are occurring in clusters, or are reappearing from the past with no reason.

An aggravation is usually a sign that the remedy is working - how much work it does will depend on dosage and potency (and the stubborness of your problem of course).

It is important to not confuse aggravation with the normal cycles of your disease, or with explainable triggers from the environment.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Ok. Thanks...

I just didn't want to go with higher potency to begin with because I tend to be pretty sensitive to remedies. Guess I lack courage in some ways.

I think there is a slight shift. But it does feel messy. Tearful. Waves of suicidal feelings. Feeling alterately young needy child and p'd off teenager - which are my 'normal' alternate states. They just feel slightly more pronounced. Self doubt. Self criticism. Nothing new.

I have had some moments of weird dizziness, almost like I'm drugged [I've never taken drugs unless you count the blissful afternoon after my first dose of Anhalonium! And I've had some pretty weird effects from psych med withdrawal in the past.] It's felt weird. That's more unusual.

Each of these do have triggers, they just feel more intense. PMS state came on very suddenly, although I should have been expecting it anyway.

But really I guess it's too early to tell. Just trying to sort everything out in my head.
 
Sorrel last decade
It does sound exactly like the sort of reaction that occurs when a remedy is aggravating.

Like I said in an earlier post, treating cases like this can be rough for you, the patient. The remedy essentially holds up a mirror, showing all the things that are unhealthy (the law of similars). But if the remedy is curative, that mirror also allows the vital force to make changes back towards a healthy state.

I actually have a really good mental health case at the beginning of this year - it was intersting because she processed all the painful stuff in her life over 2 months before I could easily see that she had been healed of it. It took alot of support and counselling on my part, and the patient herself was very committed to the changes the remedy was making. Actually, without her comittment I might have relented and tried to intervene. But she was sure that something good would come of it, and in the end she was right. It taught me a valuable lesson about patience (and increased my faith in the power of homoeopathy).
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
David,

The time frames you mention are reasonable for a 200c, but with a single 30c dose, the improvement should be visible by the end of the week.

Sameer
 
sameervermani last decade
By improvement I mean some movement in the curative direction as defined by Hering's law.
 
sameervermani last decade
The dose instigates a change in the patient - the degree of change depends on the patient as well as the potency.

I use many different potencies in clinic. 12c or 10M, the time frame which those changes occur depends on many things which are hard to generalize about - degree of tissue change, length of time they have been present, depth and type of the miasm, sensitivity of the patient.

But for the most part, for chronic problems, that is the time frame I allow for. Unless the patient is in danger, I never make a decision about the appropriateness of a remedy until 2-3 weeks has passed. There is because at that stage any improvement that has occurred can be seen to be stable. Palliation or aggravation without cure, will also be evident at this point.

One of the reasons I try to gather so much information in making a prescription is to have the most confidence I can in it. This way, I can wait with a bit more patience for a result.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I will modify that statement a little, by saying that if there has been no reaction by the end of 1 week, I will usually get them to repeat the remedy. Some patients will not react to a single dose, but 2 or 3 will usually get some movement in the case (this is, I believe, because the potency is too low).
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I agree with what you are saying as there is never harm in waiting more.

But I will still maintain, that I have never had a problem in getting some movement from the simillimum in a 30c, and in 99.9% of the cases the curative aggravation from a 30c dose does not last more than a week. In my personal experience, the turn happens before the week ends if the remedy is correct, even if ever so slight.

That being said, I am fine with waiting more here. :)
 
sameervermani last decade
Typically I would say that one dose of 30c does not cure chronic cases. However I have had a few cases where one dose of 30c is all the patient needed (this is unusual though).

I am not disagreeing with you at all Sameer, but to act with confidence I wait a little longer to assess, that is all I am saying.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
'Typically I would say that one dose of 30c does not cure chronic cases.'

[SV] And, never did I say that it does David :)

I totally agree with that.

'I am not disagreeing with you at all Sameer, but to act with confidence I wait a little longer to assess, that is all I am saying.'

[SV] All good, let's wait and watch.
 
sameervermani last decade
The metaphor of the mirror really resonates. Thank you. :) It makes total sense in the context of how I'm feeling right now. Along with PMS magnification. What fun! not...
Actually, today I've had a couple of breakthroughs of understanding in amongst the bleak sadness and depression.
This evening I feel so EMPTY. It feels almost unbearable, but I am doing my best to stay with it, breathe with it... and without rushing to the corner shop for a bar of chocolate.. as I feel it physically even though it is an emotional feeling.
 
Sorrel last decade
Oh, and this morning I had excess saliva and consequent spitting out, but no gagging/retching/coughing with it, which is a real bonus...
 
Sorrel last decade
You are brave to endure it :) If the remedy is right, any suffering you experience is actually a shift towards not suffering.

I check in here many times every day if you need anything call out.

In any process of cure, there may be several aggravations, one feeling comes up strongly then goes down, then another. Once the dust settles, those feelings or symptoms that aggravated are usually improved in some way.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Thank you. :)

It's been the rage and suicidal despair today. Plus paranoid type stuff and feeling worthless and projecting it out. It tends to happen too fast when I'm PMS'ing to catch it before I act it out.

I'm not having a good time at all today. I'm freezing cold, my womb is pulling me down and I feel so lazy. I'm really whingey.

And I just want 'the world' to go away and leave me alone in peace.
['The world' being work stress stuff around the public consultation re branch closures starting on Monday, worrying news around the world, my flatmates' son being 4 - his age, but being 4... - right now he's making a screeching noise right outside my door, people on the street leaving me with no space, Christmas stuff being 'in my face' and 'Christmas can just [swears] right off as far as I'm concerned' - p'd off teenaged state..]

I can feel the rage and paranoid angst like oozing and flowing upwards from my womb.
And mild cramps.

I feel tearful.

I just want to shut it all out.
Unfortunately my body-psyche goes into my birth trauma stuff around the time before my period. It's been like this for so long. It just happens. Therapy over the years helps me be more conscious of it and more able to bear with it, I guess the Lyssin could magnify it, hold the mirror up even more. I feel a scream coming from my womb. Wanting to reach for the world but also wanting to be insulated from it.

I must just trust that this will pass. There will be safe edges surrounding me again.

I read some of a book online about archetypes in homeopathy the other day, and it talked about Lyssin in the context of Cerberus, the dog who guards the gates of hell.
Thankfully I am no stranger to my internal hells. I just... it's hard. And it's the weekend.

I know there's not really anything anyone can do. I'm just putting this out here in the hope of feeling less alone with it.
 
Sorrel last decade

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