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you had mentioned that she sweats on her head when she sleeps. is it the whole head or some part ?
 
telescope 8 years ago
We are back from our trip. Her head sweats from where it touches the bed. It used to sweat profusely but I had gotten a little better, either from the phosphorous or the pulsatilla we used six weeks ago.

Thanks!
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
How is she sleeping now?
 
telescope 8 years ago
There isn't a lot of change. She still wakes every two hours. I am trying a Chinese herbal formula too (date/ginger/licorice/yam/oyster shell). It is helping her fall back asleep when she wakes some of the time. Generally though, she still wakes a lot and she still rolls around a lot. I think the sulphur worked the best but I'm a little disheartened over all. I wish I could help her sleep more soundly. I appreciate your help.
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
Give the pulsatilla then you can go to sulphur. Sulphur can not be given after calcarea carb.
 
telescope 8 years ago
Ok

I will try that and report back in a week.

Thank you.
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
Tomorrow will be one week. It will also be three nights after the sulphur 30c. Should I try the wet dose of one teaspoon too before giving up? There has been no change in her sleep so no improvement.

Also, is it possible that I am the reason this is happening? Three homeopaths, a craniosacral specialist and three acupuncturists haven't figured out how to help her sleep. I eliminated allergenic foods, tried bed time routines. I'm so disappointed and broke at this point! How can she be so resistant to so many people? Is it because I am somehow the problem? Have you ever heard of the mommy taking a remedy that helps the baby sleep?

Thank you!
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
I wanted to add to my prior post.

The baby no longer takes Nat Phos 6x throughout the day. Maybe one of the remedies worked. She doesn't spit up without it even though she was using three tablets daily for months.

The baby doesn't pull her hair to fall asleep either.

She has started pinching me in the last three days. I tell her no because it hurts, and she cries. That's new.

She falls down when she gets tired. Even just from crawling. She doesn't walk yet. Still a bit early for that.

She no longer reacts with a face rash when I eat eggs or cow dairy. Although I haven't been eating them.

When we first started nursing after she was born, I didn't know I had thrush. The first three weeks of her life were agony for me and I would shriek and cry every single time she nursed until I found out it was thrush causing the pain. Could my awful emotional outbursts be a part of this? It has been fine since week 5 of her life but that first month was pretty dramatic. I think this is why one homeopath recommended aconite even though it didn't change the symptoms. It's also why I wonder if I am the reason she can't sleep.

I think that's all that is different since we started this thread.
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
For breast fed babies giving medicine to the mother is a popular and effective method.
Disturbed emotional states affect the baby through milk. Similarly if the mother is taking any medicine for her problems the baby may be affected. We can try that method but before that I want to know whether she was taking any other medicine along with what I had prescribed and whether you are taking any medicine yourself.
 
telescope 8 years ago
Hello. Thank you for the response.

Her sleep last night was interesting. She woke evey hour until 1am and then slept 2 hours, 2.5 hours and then work 45 minutes later, and then after the next sleep cycle she was up for the day. It is the first time in three months that she slept for more than one sleep cycle AFTER 1 am. Usually if she gets a two hour block it is before that. The other unusual issue is that she woke at 9pm and cried and cried until I picked her up and rocked her. We cosleep but usually she just needs to nurse lying down to fall asleep again. She cried and whimpered for a half hour after she finally fell asleep again.

Neither of us takes RXs. I took Diflucan at week three of her life for the thrush I had on my nipples. She has had two doses of baby tylenol after her first vaccination in month three. The sleep trouble started before vaccinations though. I give her arnica, thuja and silicea after each vaccination.

She was given the vitamin K shot and the antibiotic eye ointment as per usual at birth. I was given pitocin, prosteglandins and an epidural for the induction. She was late and my pregnancy was high risk which is why I was induces.

While pregnant I was taking a daily injection of lovenox, a blood thinner and 8mg or less of zofran, an antiemetic for Hyperemesis gravidarum. I was on bedrest for five months and I could not walk or talk without vomiting profusely during those months. After the five months I still had 24 hour nausea and very severe vomiting but I was able to function more. It was a rough pregnancy and I worried about my health and the baby surviving on a regular basis.

I take a Chinese formula of Astragalus and Angelica. I've tried going off of it for two weeks without any changes. I take my prenatal vitamin, fish oil and methylated folate. I started a liquid calcium recently. I take liquid vitamin d (so does the baby at a smaller dose).

The baby was on a Chinese formula for ten days as I mentioned on the forum. The formula was yam, date, ginger, licorice, oyster shell. It helped her not roll around and she would get a couple of two hour blocks before 1 am. She hated the taste so I stopped giving it to her.

Otherwise, she has had the remedies mentioned on the forum.

So from day one of the pregnancy until week five or her life, I was rather on edge with physical symptoms that were rather debilitating. I definitely rejected being pregnant at first even though this was/is a very wanted and loved baby. But it was so brutal that I thought maybe I shouldnt be pregnant and that was why it was so hard to get pregnant--my body wasn't cut out for it. Thoughts like that. When she arrived and the breast feeding became so painful, I was really miserable in that she finally made it and I was still in agony physically. But once the thrush cleared up, I was fine.

We have both been pretty happy since week five/six of her life. She is a rather joyful baby who is not afraid of anything or anyone. She hates being on her back since she started crawling but that's the only time she gets fussy. She says hi to everyone and all animals and play toys. So during waking, she seems great but I wonder how much all that emotional and physical stuff is lingering in her system and affecting her sleep. Or maybe in my system and is passing into her via the milk.

Because she had a few two hour blocks after 1am, does that mean the sulphur is helping?
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
Yes sulphur is probably working. You can repeat if necessary.
 
telescope 8 years ago
Hi.

I gave her the wet dose of sulphur last night.

She woke every two hours but nursed for a very brief time when she woke. Usually she starts by waking once an hour for a couple of hours, then gets a two hour block, maybe another two hour block, then evey hour again. Last night was a first in that she never woke earlier than two hours. She also slept for a 12-hour period and usually she wakes between 10.5-11 hours.

We see how it goes tonight.

With all the stuff I mebtioned from the pregnancy and birth and breast feeding, should I take anything??

Thanks!
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
Also, it appears she is teething again. Are there any remedies I can give her that won't antidote the sulphur?

Clingy, wants to be held. Face is a little splotchy red on the forehead only. Cries when put down. The cry is not angry; just a little frustrated but not pathetic either. Slight drool but not much, NOT putting everything in her mouth which she usually does. Diaper area getting a little red too. Feels better with music and dancing, being held upside down, playing with me and nursing.

I'm nervous about antedoting the remedy because those Hyland Teething Tablets may be why some of the earlier sleep remedies didn't work. I think I antedoted them whenever she was teething.

Thanks!
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
Borax (just a share)

When the mother is in the act of laying the child down on the bed it often rouses up in its sleep and cries out in fright. The anxiety may be better appreciated if you will go to the top of one of these high buildings and go down in the elevator.

It is natural for every one to feel, with the rapid motion, an anxious feeling in the Stomach, a sensation of falling; that is natural to the healthy man, but if you exaggerate that intensely you have the Borax condition in which the slightest downward motion, of even riding down hill or walking down stairs, or, in the child, when being carried down stairs in the mothers arms, produces a violent aggravation. All the nerves are in a fret.
 
mani_jee 8 years ago
Do not give anything for teething. We will use sulphur a little longer.
It is a good idea to get treated yourself. I will look into your case.
 
telescope 8 years ago
Hello,

Last night was quite bad as far as sleep and rolling around go. However she did something she has never done before. At bed time, she normally nurses. She nursed a little and then rolled around back and forth with frustrated cries here and there for about fifteen minutes. Then she closed her eyes and fell asleep. She has never fallen asleep on her own since all this trouble started seven months ago.

That said, she woke every hour until midnite. Then a two hour block and then every hour until 5. She played lightly while on her back for about 40 minutes and then fell asleep again until 7. She has never played on her back in bed. If she's up, she wants me up. So that was also a first. She rolled a LOT all night long. She sat up and crawled a few times too.

I gave one more wet dose of sulphur this morning but I'm not sure it is working.

Someone else posted about Borax. She only dislikes being on her back not actual downward motion. In fact she LOVES being hung upside down and the process of getting upside down. She DOES have tangled hair in the back that returns even if I cut the tangles out.

I am clueless about what's next. Someone suggested carcinosin. What do you think?

Thanks
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
Also I noticed that these past two nights she wants her head touching the pillows. Sort of like she is trying to get soft pressure on her head. She keeps her head on the mattress but rolls until it is also up against a pillow.
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
I think it will be better to take medicine yourself and let your daughter get it through the milk.
Take only one dose PULSATILLA whatever potency you have.
Do not take any other medicine for atleast two days.
Stop giving sulphur to your daughter.
 
telescope 8 years ago
Thank you!

She fell asleep on her own again tonight. Hoping the night goes alright.

I saw your post about me taking pulsatilla. I'm a little nervous about that. We had an issue with milk supply because of her initial tongue/lip tie and so I am scared of anything that could affect it, especially since I don't personally have pulsatilla traits/issues. If it's for her anyway, maybe I could try giving her a different potency? Am I being too cautious?

Thank you!
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
OK. But do not give any more Sulphur. We observe for one week.
 
telescope 8 years ago
Hi. Thank you. Sounds good.

These past three nights she has put herself to sleep without nursing. She rolls around on the bed and falls back into pillows. It's like a game almost but also kind of like she's testing out the best spot. She does this for ten minutes and then on the last one, she stares at the ceiling for five minutes and goes to sleep. It's really quite a departure from how she has been her whole life. I'm stunned.

Last night I tried letting her settle instead of nurse when she work (with the exception of a nursing session every for hours). She still woke like usual but she was able to fall asleep again without nursing until just the last hour of sleep. I'm hoping that a few more nights of not nursing when she wakes, might somehow discourage her from waking in the first place.

Are you able to tell me why the sulphur is helping her fall asleep on her own? When I read up on sulphur, I don't see my baby in the description but she is so young that maybe it's hard to see. Although she seems most like phosphorous in looks and happy personality, she has none of the fears associated with phosphorous and it never helped her. Why is sulphur helping? What is it doing? Is it getting rid of something from the birth process or vaccines?

Thank you!
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
Sulphur is the most important medicine in homeopathy. It is capable of curing all the presently known diseases in a sulphur patient.
Sulphur can also aid in the cure of other patients when used as an intercurrent.
Sulphur can antidote vaccines and other medicines whether allopathic or homeopathic.
It is easy to spot a adult sulphur patient but children are different.Some of the indications for sulphur in cases involving children are :
1. Red orifices.
2. Does not want to take bath
3. Drinks more eats less.
4. Dirty clothes.
5. Constipation.
6. Liver troubles.
7 restlessness, cannot keep still.
8. Large head
In very small children you may get only 1 and 8
Everybody needs sulphur at sometime or the other so it will have some effect whether or not one is a sulphur patient.
 
telescope 8 years ago
Thank you! What a great reply. She has an enormous head (90th percentile), restless and red orifaces.

She has to get another vaccine in the next two weeks. Would she need another sulphur dose then? So far, she gets arnica and ledlum before the shot, and arnica and silica after.

Also, last night she slept three and a half hours then nursed, and another three and a half hours before nursing again. But then from 2:30am until 6:30am, it was back to waking every hour and wanting to nurse. Stubborn condition.

Thank you!
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
Do not give anything either before or after vaccine . As she will be under the influence of Sulphur there will not be any problem.
To antidote vaccines you should keep thuja 30 also.
 
telescope 8 years ago
Understood. Thank you. When she bumps her head, is topical arnica ok?

Last night's sleep was in the right direction. She slept 5 hours before wanting to nurse. Then three hours before wanting to nurse. Then every hour thereafter, waking with high energy at 5am. Although she wouldn't settle back into sleeping by nursing on her her side in bed, as soon as I picked her up to nurse, she fell asleep again for another 40 minutes. She only woke then because I tried to put her down. It seems like it was an unnatural early awakening.

The night prior she slept for 3.5 hours and nursed and then woke every 2 hours until 2, at which point it was every hour.

Naps are ok but not great. I have transitioned her away from needing to nurse to go to sleep. It works 70% of the time. I stay with her and soother her through the times when she needs nursing by picking her up to nurse and putting her down again as soon as her lids get heavy again. However she will not transition to the next sleep cycle unless she nurses during her mid nap. If she nurses mid nap she will have a two hour nap. Otherwise, it's 45 minutes. This is the case for all naps.

I was told by the lactation specialitist during her first month, that her nervous system was rather wound up. I have been told this repeatedly since then. Her nervous system has a hard time regulating so she is easily awakened. I am very responsive to her needs, as I was instructed to be to help her nervous system relax. Just wondering if the homeopathy works on that level?

Other changes: appetite is a little lower. The redness at her diaper area is gone. Has trouble breathing as the night progresses. I can hear her nasal congestion. Teething seems fine. Rolling around only during the last wakeful two hours.

Generally she doesn't like the back of her head/neck touched. She blows lots of raspberries with her mouth. I had always forgotten to mention this in the past.

What are your thoughts on all this? Do you think she will be able to move to nursing just once a night between five or six hour blocks of sleep through the help of homeopathy? I would also like to start putting her in her crib so that my husband and I can sleep in the same room again. I'm nervous that her nervous system regulation issues will get worse when I try to stop cosleeping. Parenting is hard.

I'm avoiding sour, btw.

Thank you so much for your help on this.
 
Cailanna 8 years ago
Do not worry. Everything will be fine after some time.
 
telescope 8 years ago

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