Another try to mt chronic throat problem. Help please _{Page 4 of 13}

But Murthy...all along you have saying that LM potencies work on the energy level of the individual.

How come you change tack so quickly !!

Dear Dr Organon (nice name),
Many other symptoms listed in the answers of the patient have been taken into account.

Pankaj Varma

'Doctors generally agree that systolic readings of 120 to 140 and diastolic readings of 70 to 90 are normal. Slightly higher readings---140 to 159 and 90 to 94---are considered mild high blood pressure (mild hypertension). Readings from 160 to 179 and 94 to 114 signal moderate hypertension. Anything above these limits is considered a serious problem.'

http://www.healthsquare.com/mc/fgmc2500.htm

8-12 to 9-13 is not a symptom worth considering at all. This much variation comes out of anxiety too.

Murthy

'At the end of the day though, it is at the discretion of the patient to follow the advice they feel is correct, and not for any one Homoeopath to forcefully push their own opinions onto them, in my opinion.'

Yes Dr. Organon....that is VERY CORRECT !!

Quote Pankaj

But Murthy...all along you have saying that LM potencies work on the energy level of the individual.

How come you change tack so quickly !!

Unquote

All homeopathic potencies beyond 6c(12X approximately) have no material in them and they work at the energy level. LMs are much more dilute and hence the same thing applies here too.

What did I say differently now? :-(

Hi Pankaj

Do you really know what is an LM potency?

Murthy

Hello Mr Murthy, and I must say it is good to finally see some consensus and agreement here.

I agree with your comment regarding LM's, to a degree, but this is only the case when correct remedies are chosen. LM's affect the patient at the very deepest of levels, and when improperley prescribed, either by way of wrong choice, or wrong preparation, the propensity to cause harm, is far greater than that of the Centesimals. I would therefore certainly never prescribe them online, hence the caution.

I agree, the collective approach is always the best for the patient, which SHOULD be our primary concern.

What would you suggest is the next logical step?

'Dear Dr Organon (nice name),
Many other symptoms listed in the answers of the patient have been taken into account.'

Why thank you, and you would describe a Lachesis patient as 'timid'?

In reply to your query Murthy...I endorse Dr. Organon's reply above.

I am refraining from using harsh language at you although your comments are inflamatory. (About knowledge of LM potencies).

Pankaj Varma

'yes dr. organon....that is very correct !!'

...indeed.

Questionnaire

1) Name: Joaquín Fernández
City: Barcelona (Spain)
Age: 34
Occupation: Chemist
Married since 4 years
Brown hairs and green eyes
With glasses (astigmatism)
Strong complexion: 1.80 m high and 82 kg
MotherÂ’s complaints: diabetes, high blood pressure, heart and blood coagulation problems, cholesterol
FatherÂ’s complaints: suffered a cerebral embolism 2 years ago due to arteriosclerosis on veins and heart, slight high blood pressure.

My problem is recurrent rhinopharyngitis (or so called by physicians). It began 16 years ago approx. when I started University. At the beginning I thought it was a normal thing, because everybody has sore throat sometimes, but one day climbing a mountain with my friends (it was cold and snowing) I could see how all of them overtake me going to peak, even two who used to smoke very often. I felt there was not enough air for me. The next day I was on bed with fever and with infection in my throat.
I thought ok, it was cold, I sweat (because I sweat very easily, even in winter), then I catched a cold.
In this period I passed all autumn-winter seasons with a simple pullover, now I must wear a coat, a scarf, gloves and I know, more or less, when I will fall ill again.
I have tried with allopathic medicine: antibiotics, ibuprofen, paracetamol, antihistamine, allergic tests (allergic to mite or acarus and graminae); with acupuncture, phytotherapy and homeopathy.
Homeopathy treatment: Hepar sulph 200c, Merc Solub 30c, Sulphur 30c. At the beginning I thought I was cured, but with time the process came back, but less severe as before.
Later: Hepar Sulp 10M. Later: Merc. Solub 200c. No improvement.
Besides: Aconitum, Arundo Maur, Pyrog, Eupat Perf, Silicea, Nux Vomica, Stict Pulm. Only a little improvement with Nux Vomica.
As a note, acupuncturist told me that IÂ’m a very creative person and must focus my energy in a creative area, like painting, cooking or anything that I can find fulfilment.
Owing to this allergic tests, a doctor sent a vaccine, but at third dose my body reacted worse than before (approx 9 years ago).

All the process starts with cold. In summer, in winter, with dry air, with wet air, raining, with sun, after sweating, after having a bath on the beach, going for a walk in the forest, with friends in a bar. ItÂ’s more quick when IÂ’m exposed directly in a cold situation: a draught, in temperature changes, and mainly with cold drinks and food. Since 10 years ago I must warm a little even the water I normally drink, I canÂ’t eat ice cream nor a soft drink in a bar. I canÂ’t eat fresh salad without warming it before. If I speak a lot of time or with a high tone of voice.
The day after I get cold, my throat begins to itch. My nose starts to run and sometimes with white crust on one nostril, and I sneeze. I begin to have little headache, starting in the occipital zone.
3-4 days later my nose blocks (mainly in warm rooms) and I begin with hoarseness and a slight pain in throat. I begin having shivers, especially when I touch cold water or when I go from a warm place to a cold one. My eyes (normally left eye) start to itch and water.
2-3 days later my throat is red, inflamed, with oedema in nose, uvula and throat. A terrible pain in throat, impossible to swallow, and headache. Irradiation to ears. Sometimes complicated with sinusitis, and depending the extent of infection with green-brown thick mucus, or only with little yellowish mucus.
Crust on both nostrils. Fever, palpitations and my blood pressure rise a little as well. Trembling of the lower jaw. Always that I feel my jaw trembling, the temperature starts to go up and the more trembling the more pain in throat.

2) Since the first homeopathy treatment I donÂ’t take antibiotic unless itÂ’s necessary.
I felt better five year ago, but since then this process repeats more and more often.
The last treatment with Hepar 10M was 8 months ago and with Merc 200c one month in this forum.

3) MENTAL SYMPTOMS
1. I have a good memory
2. For things IÂ’m not interested
3. At any specific time
4. Yes I usually remember
5. Normally yes
6. Yes
7. I stay more quite as usual and subdued
8. During sickness IÂ’m mild, gloom, a little intolerant and sullen
9. Yes I comprehend easily and quickly
10. Normally promptly
11. Sometimes I feel aversion to people or things. IÂ’m bashful and with desire to be alone and with people. Sometimes IÂ’m easily offended, melancholic and choleric.
12. I see the future without pressure, I try to live the present.

I feel like people donÂ’t understand me. I see things very clear but others donÂ’t see so clear. I try to explain them but sometimes I still feel misunderstood. I try to do things so easy that other people think are wrong, though IÂ’ll be in the right way. I canÂ’t express my feelings freely, IÂ’m a reserved person, but when I intimate with people IÂ’m kind and open

4) SENSATIONS
The first sensation is a slight tickling in throat, like a parade of ants. Then is followed by a tearing sensation and finally by a burning sensation.
I feel my heart very clear, palpitations are strong and clear.

5) BETTER OR WORSE
IÂ’m worse with cold drinks and food, with draught, on the beach because of the sun (my skin turns red very easily), in any situation where a change in temperature can take place. The worst seasons are spring and autumn. Sleeping on the left side. After sleeping all night, in the morning I feel worse. When I walk much I start to sweat and to feel not good. Air conditioner makes me feel worse, but in summer the hot disturb me as well and I must search cold air (not directly).

IÂ’m better with hot drinks or food and feeling warm (though in the past I adored cold). I get better if I sleep on the side it hurts and applying little pressure. I feel better deep breathing after a rainy day, and hearing music (ethnics, electronics, smooth sounds).

6) PAIN
Pain starts normally on left tonsil, in a single point irradiating to right tonsil and finally to all throat to begin inflammation.

1) As I know what state this pain I start to think the next step in process. I try to mitigate this pain, via painkiller or thyme infusion with honey (sometimes I can stop the process, but in few days or weeks come back).
2) Practically nothing can relieve the pain, only painkiller and warm (but not always)
3) Throat turns red
4) IÂ’m uneasy because I know will come back
5) Quickly
6) –
7) Very slowly
8) –
9) Sharp, stabbing at the beginning; burning and tearing in climax
10) –
11) –
12) ItÂ’s like if pain never has an ending
13) Since the process begins and itÂ’s the last symptom to go
14) I donÂ’t know
15) –
16) No
17) Yes, deep red and sometimes so inflamed that doctors said this should be very painful

7) DISCHARGES OF ALL KINDS
Discharges of nose, normally transparent mucus, but when infection is inside me turns to yellow, green or brown depending on the degree of infection. Thick and not fluent. Smelly. They appear almost at the end of the process. Usually are sticky and form scab. I feel my sense of smell increases.

I have no other discharges

8) HEAD
I have intense headaches, they begin in occipital zone and then irradiated to one ear side. Are sharp and when I have sinusitis are very intense above eyes.

1) Is naturally moist
2) No
3) No, but after waking up it tangle a little
4) No
5) Yes
6) Abundant, but thin and with a receding hairline since young (but not in progress, IÂ’m not a bald person) seems to have less quantity.
Straight and healthy
7) Yes
8) No
9) No

Dizziness
I have dizziness only when my ears are affected in the process, i. e. unusual.
1) Rapid movement of the head and sometimes just to waking up
2) Lack of balance
3) No
4) Yes, sometimes turns blurred
5) No

9) EARS
1) –
2) –
3) No
4) –
5) When IÂ’m cold
6) A few meters
7) A little worse
8) No, but I try to distinguish noises
9) No
10) Especially at night time, in silence and when I must be concentrated
11) Yes
12) Yes
13) The only noise I have in ears is that when I swallow both eardrums make a creak, like if I were in a tunnel.

10) EYES
I have floaters on both eyes.
Sometimes my left eye waters and stings
1) In one
2) Left
3) Lower
4) Outer
5) On the outer side
6) Yes
7) When my throat is going worse
8) Not much
9) No
10) Intense blinking
11) No
12) Yes
13) Yes
14) In the morning and during daytime
15) No
16) 5 years ago
17) No
18) No
19) No
20) –
21) No
22) Astigmatic
23) No
24) No
25) –
26) Yes
27) 8-10 years old
28) Blurred vision in all distances
29) No
30) –
31) No

11) NOSE
1) Inside
2) Yes
3) Little single scab normally on one nostril. White at the beginning, brown later.
4) Normally no
5) Yes, swollen, sometimes like if a “ball” were inside. Big oedema, followed by headache and itching.
6) Yes, very easily
7) Yes
8) With change of temperatures, draught and after drinking/eating anything cold

12) MOUTH AND TONGUE
1) Sometimes
2) On gums, little sores rounding one tooth
3) –
4) Normally moist, but when I catch cold then turns dry
5) Little
6) Normal. Normal thirst
7) A little bad, but not offensive
8) When I start the process. It remembers a little to drain odour
9) No
10) –
11) Sometimes sweet taste
12) No
13) Dry
14) Almost always is coated with a thin white layer
15) Rear
16) Tooth leave a mark
17) Well delimited and pink
18) Triangular shape
19) Rough
20) Yes
21) Yes
22) No
23) No

13) TEETH
1) No
2) –
3) –
4) –
5) Very few times I feel cold in the teeth
6) –
7) Smooth
8) Yellowish
9) No
10) –
11) –
12) –
13) –
14) No
15) No
16) Yes
17) No
18) No
19) No
20) No
21) –

14) THROAT
1) Yes
2) Yes
3) No
4) Yes
5) Yes
6) Yes
7) During swallowing
8) Yes
9) As if it was always irritated
10) Yes
11) When I catch cold and mainly in the morning, just after waking up
12) When worse it begins at left side
13) In the upper part
14) No
15) -
16) -
17) Yes, always
18) No
19) Inflamed and red
20) Yes, but I speak low
21) If I speak a lot my throat hurts
22) Loss of voice
23) Low
24) Yes
25) No
26) –
27) –
28) –

15) EATING AND DRINKING
1) No
2) No
3) -
4) Yes, at mid-morning
5) No
6) No
7) No
8) No
9) Yes
10) Yes
11) Impatient
12) Not normally
13) No
14) Fats
15) Solid
16) No
17) No
18) Even
19) Yes
20) None
21) Slowly
22) No
23) No
24) Yes
25) No
26) No
27) No
28) Often
29) Much
30) None
31) No
32) No
33) No
34) After cold drinks
35) Yes
36) Tea
37) A cup in breakfast
38) Seldom
39) One glass/day
40) Yes, I drink soya milk
41) No
42) No
43) Normal

16) NAUSEA, VOMITING, ERUCTATIONS, ETC.
1) No
2) After eating
3) No
4) An antiacid
5) More food
6) It relieves stomach
7) No
8) Small
9) Easily
10) No
11) Sometimes
12) Yes
13) No
14) No
15) - ; No
16) -
17) No
18) –
19) No
20) –
21) –
22) Yes
23) After eating
24) Seldom
25) No
26) No
27) –
28) Drinking water
29) No
30- 61) –

17) THE STOMACH
I suffer seldom of Gastroenteritis
18) ABDOMEN
1) Sometimes
2) After eating
3) Little
4) Over the whole abdomen
5) A heaviness sensation
6) Yes
7) In digestion time
8) 2 hours
9) Full
10) A groin hernia. A little bump on right groin, aggravated when coughing
11) Since 1 month
12) I donÂ’t know
13) No
14) No

19) URINE AND URINATION
1) No
2) No
3) No
4) No
5) No
6) No
7) No
8) No

Urination
1) Just before starting the inflammation process of throat I urinate more; and just with infection I urinate less.
2) No
3) No
4) No
5) Freely in a stream
6) At once
7) No
8) Come in a gush
9) I can wait
10) No
11) –
12) No
13) In the morning
14) Normally no
15) –
16) Yes
17) No
18) No
19) Yes
20) No
21) No
22) Even
23) No
24) No
25) No

The urine
1) Normal urine, yellow in the morning and yellowish and clear during day
2) No difference
3) If there is no infection in body, normal smell. If infection, itÂ’s smelly
4) No
5) -
6) –

20) STOOL, DIARRHOEA, CONSTIPATION
Stool
Sometimes hard, because of constipation and fetid, but normal the most of time.
1) Brown
2) In the afternoon or in the morning
3) Flatulence
4) Piles come down
5) Constipation
6) Since many years
7) Headache
8) Sometimes pain in abdomen
9) Worse
10) When I eat equilibrate once a day
11) Yes
12) I feel uneasy and restless
13) Many years
14) No
15) In last year temporary because I control my diet
16) I donÂ’t think so
17) –
18) Sometimes
19) No
20) –
21) No
22) No
23) Yes
24) Yes, I have piles
25) No
26) Sometimes
27) Sometimes
28) No
29) No
30) No
31) No
32) Normal
33) Normal

Diarrhoea
ItÂ’s painless.
1) I donÂ’t know
2) Perhaps nerves
3) -
4) No, it seldom appears
5) Yes
6) No
7) -
8) No
9) No
10) No

Dysentery

21) ANUS, RECTUM, PILES
Anus
1) Yes, piles

Rectum

Piles
Red-bluish and as little balls
1) After stool
2) Constipation, hard stool
3) Warm/cold bath
4)
5) Since 10 years
Sometimes bleeding
6) Itching
7) Yes
8) A little and after strong constipation
9) No
10) Yes
11) Itching
12) Small
13) After constipation
14) No
15) No

22) LUNGS AND BREATHING
1) No
2) No
3) No
4) No
5) No
6) No
7) Nobody
8) No
9) No
10) No
11) No
12) –
13) –
14) –
15) No
16) No
17) No

23) HEART
1) Yes
2) When I start the process
3) No
4) I can feel the heart beating
5) Regular
6) No
7) Yes
8) 50-60
9) No
10) Seldom
11) No
12) No
13) No

24) COUGH AND EXPECTORATION
1-2) Dry cough
3-4) Sore throat and from cold
5-6) Lying down, night, during sleep
7-8) From larynx
9) In throat
10) A punctual pain
11) None
12) No

Expectoration
1) No
2) –
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) Sink
6) No
7) -
8) In the morning
9) No

25) JOINTS
1) No
2) No
3) No
4) No
5) Yes
6) –
7) –
8) No
9) No
10) No
11) –
12) No
13) –
14) No
26) MUSCLES
1) No

27) BONES
1) –
2) No
3) No

28) BACK
1) No

29) WOUNDS AND INJURIES
1) No
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) When I was a baby my old brother hurt me and broke my right shinbone
5) Right shinbone
6) A fall from cradle
7) Any
8) Yes
9) No scar
10) No
11) –
12) –
13) –
14) –
15) –
16) –
17) –
18) –
19) –
20) –

30) BLEEDING
1) –
2) –
3) –
4) –
5) No
6) –
7) –

31) MORBID GROWTHS, TUMORS, CANCERS, ETC.
1-13)-

32) SKIN DISEASES
My skin problems arise from sun, my skin is white and canÂ’t tolerate much sun, so it turns red and burns easily if no protection.
1) Yes
2) No
3) No
4) No
5) Yes
6) Injection
7) No
8) Prevention child vaccination
9) Yes
10) No
11) IÂ’ve had always healthy nails
12) Sometimes
13) No
14) Yes
15-35) –
36) Sometimes scaly, sometimes oily
37) Pink
38) Natural

33) FEVER, CHILL AND SWEAT
1) On face
2) –
3) –
4) Yes
5) Generally
6) Nose/Throat
7) Yes
8) Warm
9) Yes
10) No
11) At night
12) During sleep
13) In the morning
14) Catch cold
15) Yes
16) No
17) 1-2 weeks
18) No
19) Very weak
20) No
21) No
22) No
23) Chill
24) Red and dry
25) Yes
26) –
27) Accelerate
28) -
29) General
30) –
31) Yes
32) Warm
33) Transparent
34) No colour
35) Yes
36) Weak
37) Yes
38) On forehead, back of the neck and armpit
39) No
40) –
41) –

34) SLEEP AND DREAMS
IÂ’m drowsy or sleepy abnormally the day after my complaint with throat starts. Suddenly appears a terrible sleepiness, indicating shortly my throat will hurt.
Likewise occurs with yawning
1) Spasmodic
2) Blurred vision, sneeze and unrest at sunlight
3) Dry mouth, sore throat, pain in nose, sneeze, confusion and sleep in the eyes; sometimes awake me my personal problems
4) IÂ’m deep to light sleeper since IÂ’ve a daughter
5) Mainly if I take stimulant like coffee or problems rounding my head
6) In stress situations
7) Thinking in everyday worries
8) No
9) Lately no
10) A little tired
11) No, I have no time
12) Yes
13) If IÂ’m ok, easy
14) My wife says that I toss and roll about during sleep
15) Low
16) No
17) When my nose is blocked, yes. This happens often
18) No
19) No
20) Sometimes
21) I donÂ’t know
22) Usually, not
23) No
24) Just before awakening
25) Seldom
26) Normally pleasant and vivid
27) I have no particular subject in dreams
28) No

35) –

36) FOR MEN ONLY
1) I think IÂ’ve been as every child, not addicted but I used to.
2) Once, twice a week
3) No
4) No
5) Absolutely no
6) No
7) Sometimes, depending on the woman
8) No
9) No
10) No
11) No
12) ItÂ’s thrilling
13) ItÂ’s complete
14) Usually I can control discharge, nor too soon nor too late
15) No
16) No
17) No
18) No
19) No
20) Warm sweat
21) No
22) Healthy
23) No, itÂ’s normal
24) –
25) No
26) –
27) –
28) Sometimes
29) Yes
30) No
31) No
32) –. No
33) -. No
34) –
35) No

Re: Another try to mt chronic throat problem. Help please From Joaquín on 2007-12-12
'Wow, an accreditated homeopath gave it to me. He learnt in Mexico and has a dilated experience. I can't understand the disparity of different opinions in homeopathy. It seems that everyone has a different criterium.
When I took it I really relief at the begining, but with time I came back, but not so worse as before '

- Joaquín

Someone who gives the above answer is not timid !!

You have to read his 'yes' or 'no' answers in conjuction with Kent's questionnaire.

http://homeoint.org/books2/kentwhat/Kentintus.htm

Murthy

Now that is new information on the case !!
The new set of answers.

Dear Dr.Organon

I agree with you. We will not go for LMs in a forum set up.

Please go through the case and give your comments. I have narrowed down my choice to Ars, Hepar and Lyco.

Your analysis may bring in a few more.

I would like the regulars too to chip in.

Then we all can discuss and if possible reach a consensus.

Murthy

'Someone who gives the above answer is not timid !!'
I do not really follow how such an answer would designate someone 'non-timid', especially when they have stated this is how they are. There is nothing in the patients comments which is particularly self-assertive or forthright...

Anyway, to prescribing, the purpose of our being here, no?

Dear Pankaj

If you had read the thread carefully from the beginning you would have known that he answered an exhaustive questionnaire, and I have narrowed down my choice based on that.

Obviously you have read a few sentences out of the total case and jumped in with your prescription of Lachesis.

Now you are trying your best to wriggle out.

That is why there is an apt saying.

'Look before you leap.'

Murthy

Joaquin, a few questions:
1/. are your grandparents still alive, and if so, what kinds of health problems do they suffer from. If they are no longer with us, what did they die from.
2/. Would you describe yourself, if you had no comittments, as a 'night owl'? or do you prefer to go to bed fairly early?
3/. What is your proffession?

Also, what other ailments have you suffered from throughout your life. Give as much detail as possible.

Gentlemen,
My own experience is that about personality traits....many people give incorrct answers ....as others are a better judge of personality ...rather than the person himself / herself.

It would be best to use questionnaires only for getting statements on symptoms.

At least....that is what I do.

Ask a man if he is 'querrelsome'...invariably the answer is no.

Yet ....the moment he gets out of your office....you see him fighting outside with people trying to take out his car from the parking lot !!

A lot of people donot have a correct estimation of their personality traits.....

Pankaj Varma

No your GRANDparents.

Does this position involve any responsibility, or are you simply an 'assistant'? What other occupations have you had throughout your life?

I have read through the majority of the questionaire, but did not see this. I will try to look in more detail, if time allows.