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Sorry,
no, all my grandparents are dead since many years ago.
I don't remember well,
I must answer what they die from.
I'll try to post it later.
I have some responsability, I help the laboratory director. I would like to have a better work, a better position.
Other occupations: teacher of young people and postman
no, all my grandparents are dead since many years ago.
I don't remember well,
I must answer what they die from.
I'll try to post it later.
I have some responsability, I help the laboratory director. I would like to have a better work, a better position.
Other occupations: teacher of young people and postman
Joaquín last decade
Dr. Organon,
mother's grandparents: he died from an aortal haemorrhage and she from diabetes.
father's grandparents: both suffered from heart, but I don't know why they died. He died with 84 yo.
mother's grandparents: he died from an aortal haemorrhage and she from diabetes.
father's grandparents: both suffered from heart, but I don't know why they died. He died with 84 yo.
Joaquín last decade
Arsenic...not left sided pain in throat
Hepar ..... not left sided pain in throat
Lyco....starts with right sided pain in throat
Pain in left side of the throat is a very important symptom in the analysis
He is not just saying 'pain in the throat'
He is qualifying it...on left side.
Pankaj Varma
Hepar ..... not left sided pain in throat
Lyco....starts with right sided pain in throat
Pain in left side of the throat is a very important symptom in the analysis
He is not just saying 'pain in the throat'
He is qualifying it...on left side.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
He is also telling aggravation from cold drinks and amelioration from warm drinks which is not lachesis.
He is also telling worse in cold weather which is also not lachesis.
We can't decide a medicine depending on a single modality. The totality has to match. If the generalities contradict the medicine is to be discarded from analysis.
Murthy
He is also telling worse in cold weather which is also not lachesis.
We can't decide a medicine depending on a single modality. The totality has to match. If the generalities contradict the medicine is to be discarded from analysis.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Lachesis:
Better... appearance of discharges, warm applications.
Boericke.
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Pankaj Varma
Better... appearance of discharges, warm applications.
Boericke.
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Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Boericke..
Throat.--Sore, worse left side, swallowing liquids. Quinsy. Septic parotiditis. Dry, intensely swollen, externally and internally. Diphtheria; membrane dusky, blackish;
PAIN AGGRAVATED BY HOT DRINKS (It is in italics..means grade 2)
chronic sore throat, with much hawking; mucus sticks, and cannot be forced up or down. Very painful; worse slightest pressure, touch is even more annoying. In diphtheria, etc, the trouble began on the left side. Tonsils purplish. Purple, livid color of throat. Feeling as if something was swollen which must be swallowed; worse, swallowing saliva or liquids. Pain into ear. Collar and neck-band must be very loose.
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Modalities.--Worse, after sleep, (Kali bich). Lachesis sleeps into aggravation; ailments that come on during sleep (Calc); left side, in the spring, warm bath, pressure or constriction, hot drinks. Closing eyes.
Better, appearance of discharges, warm applications.
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This is from Allen
Head :
Pain, extending into the nose, with vertigo ; flickering before the eyes.
Bursting or throbbing pain in the temples, with heat, < motion.
Pain like a rush of blood to the head, with heat.
Vertigo in the morning on waking, < closing the eyes.
Biting pain on the vertex, with weight and pressure, < the sun.
Pain, extending from the right side of the head into the neck and shoulders, with tension of muscles.
A leaden heaviness in the occiput in the morning on waking ; can hardly raise the head, with vertigo.
General amelioration from warm applications,
aggravation on rising in the morning.
Headache worse on the right side.
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Boericke didn't say for which condition Lachesis is better with warm application.
Allen says it. It is for headaches.
However every author including Boericke says that Lachesis throat is aggravated from cold drinks.
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Some times the more we tend to stick to our point, the more ignorance we show about homeopathic matters.
Murthy
Throat.--Sore, worse left side, swallowing liquids. Quinsy. Septic parotiditis. Dry, intensely swollen, externally and internally. Diphtheria; membrane dusky, blackish;
PAIN AGGRAVATED BY HOT DRINKS (It is in italics..means grade 2)
chronic sore throat, with much hawking; mucus sticks, and cannot be forced up or down. Very painful; worse slightest pressure, touch is even more annoying. In diphtheria, etc, the trouble began on the left side. Tonsils purplish. Purple, livid color of throat. Feeling as if something was swollen which must be swallowed; worse, swallowing saliva or liquids. Pain into ear. Collar and neck-band must be very loose.
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Modalities.--Worse, after sleep, (Kali bich). Lachesis sleeps into aggravation; ailments that come on during sleep (Calc); left side, in the spring, warm bath, pressure or constriction, hot drinks. Closing eyes.
Better, appearance of discharges, warm applications.
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This is from Allen
Head :
Pain, extending into the nose, with vertigo ; flickering before the eyes.
Bursting or throbbing pain in the temples, with heat, < motion.
Pain like a rush of blood to the head, with heat.
Vertigo in the morning on waking, < closing the eyes.
Biting pain on the vertex, with weight and pressure, < the sun.
Pain, extending from the right side of the head into the neck and shoulders, with tension of muscles.
A leaden heaviness in the occiput in the morning on waking ; can hardly raise the head, with vertigo.
General amelioration from warm applications,
aggravation on rising in the morning.
Headache worse on the right side.
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Boericke didn't say for which condition Lachesis is better with warm application.
Allen says it. It is for headaches.
However every author including Boericke says that Lachesis throat is aggravated from cold drinks.
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Some times the more we tend to stick to our point, the more ignorance we show about homeopathic matters.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Sorry for the mistake..
read as...
However every author including Boericke says that Lachesis throat is aggravated from hot drinks.
Murthy
read as...
However every author including Boericke says that Lachesis throat is aggravated from hot drinks.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Murthy...
You are good at misleading people.
Ars., Hep. or Lyco as zeroed down by you are no where near !!
Pankaj Varma
You are good at misleading people.
Ars., Hep. or Lyco as zeroed down by you are no where near !!
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Instead of carrying out fights here...better ...the patient tries the meds and comes back with feed back.
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Pankaj
This is has nothing to do with philosophy. It is something to do with knowledge of materia medica.
It is you who quoted Boericke to justify your stand.
I only pointed out the flaw in your thinking by quoting from the same Boericke.
Wise people learn from their mistakes.
Murthy
This is has nothing to do with philosophy. It is something to do with knowledge of materia medica.
It is you who quoted Boericke to justify your stand.
I only pointed out the flaw in your thinking by quoting from the same Boericke.
Wise people learn from their mistakes.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Giri
I tookup this case in right earnest to help him out.
I am waiting to see what could be the other possibilities in addition to what I thought.
Pankaj came out with Lachesis, which has been discussed about earlier and is discarded as it doesn't fit the generals.
Let us see whether any more 'educated' suggestions come out which stand to scrutiny.
Murthy
I tookup this case in right earnest to help him out.
I am waiting to see what could be the other possibilities in addition to what I thought.
Pankaj came out with Lachesis, which has been discussed about earlier and is discarded as it doesn't fit the generals.
Let us see whether any more 'educated' suggestions come out which stand to scrutiny.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Hi Murthy, Dr. Organon and others,
I have repertorized this and remedies which are coming up for me are :
Sepia , Silicea and Natrum Mur .
Please give these some thought.
Sameer.
I have repertorized this and remedies which are coming up for me are :
Sepia , Silicea and Natrum Mur .
Please give these some thought.
Sameer.
sameervermani last decade
Dear Sameer,
Have you accounted for the rise in blood pressure...in your repertorization....
Pankaj Varma
Have you accounted for the rise in blood pressure...in your repertorization....
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Murthy....has the patient tried with a dose or two of Lachesis...or you are discarding it on your own..
Pankaj Varma
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dear Pankaj,
Yes, I have considered palpitations and BP in my repertorization.
Sepia and Nat-m are 3 pt. remedies for palpitations in general and Silica is 2 pt.
For BP, nat-m is 3 pt. whereas sep. and sil. are both 1 pt.
I would start with Sepia first and then try Nat-m if that fails. This is because Nat-m follows Sepia well.
Yes, I have considered palpitations and BP in my repertorization.
Sepia and Nat-m are 3 pt. remedies for palpitations in general and Silica is 2 pt.
For BP, nat-m is 3 pt. whereas sep. and sil. are both 1 pt.
I would start with Sepia first and then try Nat-m if that fails. This is because Nat-m follows Sepia well.
sameervermani last decade
Hi Sammer
I will take the remedies mentioned too into consideration.
Pankaj
Let us ask Joaquin whether he is willing to try Lachesis.
If he tries Lachesis and lands into trouble you have to take full responsibility and guide him further.
Are you willing to do it?
Murthy
I will take the remedies mentioned too into consideration.
Pankaj
Let us ask Joaquin whether he is willing to try Lachesis.
If he tries Lachesis and lands into trouble you have to take full responsibility and guide him further.
Are you willing to do it?
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Hi everybody,
first of all THANKS trying to help me. I'm very grateful to you.
I'll try the remedy (or remedies) you think can fit better with my case, but there is 4/5 prescribers discussing my case, with sometimes different/sometimes equal opinions, so first I will wait until the most of you agree with the remedy. I know is a complex case, so it doesn't matter if you have to take more time to get a solution.
As a note, Dr. Organon asked me for my grandparents. They, together with my parents, presented problems in blood circulation, could this help you?
Joaquin
first of all THANKS trying to help me. I'm very grateful to you.
I'll try the remedy (or remedies) you think can fit better with my case, but there is 4/5 prescribers discussing my case, with sometimes different/sometimes equal opinions, so first I will wait until the most of you agree with the remedy. I know is a complex case, so it doesn't matter if you have to take more time to get a solution.
As a note, Dr. Organon asked me for my grandparents. They, together with my parents, presented problems in blood circulation, could this help you?
Joaquin
Joaquín last decade
Hi Joaquin
We will try to reach a consensus if possible.
Please wait. However do visit regularly to clarify any further querys others may have.
Murthy
We will try to reach a consensus if possible.
Please wait. However do visit regularly to clarify any further querys others may have.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
If he tries Lachesis and lands into trouble you have to take full responsibility and guide him further.
Murthy
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Back to your old games of scaring people !!
What responsibility are you taking for prescriptions being made by you ??
This is a Forum Murthy...the patient is welcome to go and share this info with a doctor.
And I am not forcing him to definately use my suggestion. Even if I would...no one is going to accept it.
On the contrary, I notice that you want to thurst your suggestions down the gullet of patients.
Pl. answer for your self first on the same question that you posed to me.
You have already noted that Dr. Organon has disputed a few of your stands.
Even Sameer is not in agreement with your analysis.
Pankaj Varma
Murthy
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Back to your old games of scaring people !!
What responsibility are you taking for prescriptions being made by you ??
This is a Forum Murthy...the patient is welcome to go and share this info with a doctor.
And I am not forcing him to definately use my suggestion. Even if I would...no one is going to accept it.
On the contrary, I notice that you want to thurst your suggestions down the gullet of patients.
Pl. answer for your self first on the same question that you posed to me.
You have already noted that Dr. Organon has disputed a few of your stands.
Even Sameer is not in agreement with your analysis.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dear Pankaj
I always take responsibility for the patients I prescribe for.
Show me a single case where I abondoned them in the middle.
Murthy
I always take responsibility for the patients I prescribe for.
Show me a single case where I abondoned them in the middle.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Different prescribers may arrive at different starting remedies, but with proper follow up and a series of remedies all the competent homeopaths can bring in relief.
The basic difference between a knowledgable prescriber and others is the former can show justification for their choices through repertorial analysis and 'proper' quotes from materia medica, where as the later has nothing to show in support of their remedy choice except rhetoric.
Murthy
The basic difference between a knowledgable prescriber and others is the former can show justification for their choices through repertorial analysis and 'proper' quotes from materia medica, where as the later has nothing to show in support of their remedy choice except rhetoric.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
'Dr. Organon,
mother's grandparents: he died from an aortal haemorrhage and she from diabetes.
father's grandparents: both suffered from heart, but I don't know why they died. He died with 84 yo.'
Thank you Joaquin, and one last question, before I make my suggestion, do you still have your tonsils?
mother's grandparents: he died from an aortal haemorrhage and she from diabetes.
father's grandparents: both suffered from heart, but I don't know why they died. He died with 84 yo.'
Thank you Joaquin, and one last question, before I make my suggestion, do you still have your tonsils?
Dr Organon last decade
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