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Fever of Unknown Origin - Concerned Hubby

Hi,

Need your help for the subject condition/fever with no known reason. My wife has been having low grade fever for almost 2 yrs and not getting cured. She gets cough in the night while sleeping and has bad nasal/head congestion with no discharge, no taste or smell.

All medical tests have been negative (more details in the case history). Medical doctors have not been able to find cause of the fever. I have even tried a local, only one, homeopath and it has not helped. Please help, I am really concerned.

Her case history in her own words:
'I am suffering from severe sinus congestion with constant low grade fever. It used to be only evening fever but lately it’s been almost all the time except early in the morning when I get up from sleep. During fever my eyes burn and I feel cold (whole body). I feel good when my body is covered with layers.
Congestion is very bad and I seldom get any taste or the smell of anything. Also I am very low in energy all the time. It’s hard for me to start any task with the anticipation of not finishing it due to lack of energy. Body is achy all the time. I almost get headaches every morning when I wake up and it starts getting better when I get up from the bed. But in general I get headaches very frequently. I also get pain in my eye sockets; whenever I get the headache. Headache is in the whole head sometimes it’s more on the back side of the head. It’s always throbbing pain. I almost always get pain on my forehead between eyes. Movements make my headache better. If the headache becomes unbearable I end up taking pain killer like Tylenol or Ibuprofen. Also my whole face hurts due to congestion and I feel fluids in my ears, but my doctor tells me that my ears are fine. I have been having this headache congestion for about few years but this fever issue is from couple of years and it is getting worse. The fever used to be only in the evenings around 4pm but now it is random, certain days no fever, certain days in the morning only, certain days in the morning and continues till night. It is in the range of 98.7Deg F to 99.7degF. However, whether she has fever or not, talking with somebody even casually, personally or over the phone shoots the fever up from normal to 99.6, this comes back to normal after resting for 30mins or so. I have no nasal discharge just feeling of congestion, rarely will have minor nasal discharge during warm shower. I have post nasal discharge.
Also I feel my chest congested all the time. I cough a lot after I go to sleep, as such sleep gets disturbed. Sinus and chest X-rays are all clear.
I have pain in my lower back and left knee. These pains have started about couple of years. Wear a knee pad when active. Sometimes the knee pain is there even while sleep, however, massaging the knees with oil helps.

I have just got a physical checkup and there was no infection indicated (WBC ok) and Eosinophils (indicator of allergies) have showed up normal in one and high in the other. Thyroid, sugar, cholesterol, Trigylcerides are all normal. Alkaline Phosphates, Calcium, Iron saturation, BUN and BUN/Creatinine ratio were slightly low. I can send the copy of the report if desired'.

Please let me know if I can provide any additional info. Thanks for the help.
 
  RajanTX on 2014-06-27
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
It seems she is having chronic sinusitis. Please upload sinus x-ray report if you have.

What homeopathic medicines you have tried up until now.
 
Usehomeopathy 5 years ago
Hi-

Have you taken her to an allergy dr. who will skin test her for what she is allergic to?
They inject tiny amounts of substances under the skin and the skin shows up in
minutes a red bump indicating allergy to that substance.

They test, wheat/gluten, dairy, pollen, grass, dust, mold, dog and cat dander, etc. Even if you get homeopathic
treatment it is going to take some time and in the meantime it would be good to know
what is going on so she can avoid those things and get some relief. Mold is often not
suspected, as a person can have a mold allergy from the past being exposed to hidden
mold in the home and it has to be removed or the person comes into contact with it
again they will have symptoms. Also there can be problems with living near farms where
the chemicals are blowing into your area, or living near any kind of factory or plant
putting toxins into the air or water.

An xray is not going to show what is inflammed in her sinus areas-you need an mri
to do that-she could have swollen turbinates, that won't allow things to drain properly.

Allergies are the immune system over- reacting to substances. Homeopathy can
heal her immune system, but you should find out what the causes are and then
at least you can take steps such as if it is pollen, grass, have a room in the house
with windows shut, have an air cleaner in there with hepa filter and her body will
start to regain energy if that is the cause. Dairy allergy and wheat can cause other
allergies, bc the body reacts for a week or more causing mucous and sinus inflammation
after just one or two meals having those things in there- then you get inflammation
everywhere , and seem to become allergic to more things bc your system is weak.
[message edited by simone717 on Fri, 27 Jun 2014 22:51:09 BST]
 
simone717 5 years ago
user homeopathy-
they already had sinus x ray which showed clear. She needs an mri.
[message edited by simone717 on Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:54:28 BST]
 
simone717 5 years ago
The X-rays came out all clear, no infections, no accumulation of fluids... but she does feel fluids in her ears frequently.

She has tried Sepia, Ars Alb, Kali Carb, Acid Phos, Rhus Tox, Calc Carb ... not in any order.

Thanks
Rajan
 
RajanTX 5 years ago
She has seen an allergy specialist and was suggested to get testing done but we were reluctant. One of the reasons being that the shots given to overcome the allergies are not 100% cuarable and we did not know the repurcussions. We can get the testing done if still suggested.

I had taken her to an infectious disease dr and he didn't find anything wrong but for the first time blood tests showed Eosinophils elevated indicating sinus allergies. This Dr has recommended a CAT scan of the sinus's with contrast. We have read quite a few bad responses due to contrast injections and a bit nervous to get the CAT SCAN. Iodine contrast effects are posted on the net. We can get this done.

We live in a nice area, so no chemical toxins close by. She is a stay home house wife so no job related stress or toxins exposure. However, there are a lot of trees around the house/neighborhood which may be causing allergies.

Appreciate the help & waiting for further advise.

Thanks
Rajan
 
RajanTX 5 years ago
How long have you lived in that area?

( what do you mean the shots given are not 100 percent curable?)

You don't have to get the shots - you just need to find out
what she is showing allergic to so you know.

The shots are called immunotherapy and they re-train the immune
system not to over- react. They do help a lot of people with
pollen allergies mostly. That is one way to go.

First- I would get her allergy tested. If you find out it is pollen grass
trees, etc, you have your answer.

An ENT dr would probably tell you to do the MRI- not a Cat scan.
The ENT can look up there in the office and see the swelling, but
the procedure is usually infusion of steroids which will relieve
but not stop what is going on. When and if choosing an ENT get
someone who has a family practice- and there is one or two drs.
Do not go to some big facility full of sinus drs, ent's etc bc they
really like to say people need surgery - I call them sinus mills-
they just churn people in and out.

Fill out the basic form on here-

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/188925-there will be
a lot more questions and your wife has to answer them in her
own words for this to work.

I just redid the link.
[message edited by simone717 on Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:44:52 BST]
 
simone717 5 years ago
Yes, she had seen an ENT specialist who did not find anything wrong and kind of ignored the fever aspect, suggested to get her tested for allergies... which as I had mentioned did not pursue but can do that. We live in Southern part of US where it is hot and humid and allergies are a very common way of life... but continued fever is what I don't understand. She has taken antibiotics in the past which help temporarily but the fever comes back with same intensity after about a week or 10days. We have been living in the same area for about 25yrs and same house for last 10yrs.

Will get the form completed and will post shortly.

Thanks
Rajan
 
RajanTX 5 years ago
Hi-please post the tests report along with the other.
 
simone717 5 years ago
Did she receive every anti-tubercular treatment?

Any psychological issue?

Is her cough is episodic and spasmodic.
 
Usehomeopathy 5 years ago
No TB, never exposed to it.

No psychological issues

She coughs mildly sometimes during conversations. Most of the cough issues are after she goes to sleep, during the day or the night. She wakes up due to cough, & it is more like she is blowing out during cough. It is random, sometimes barely coughs in the night, sometimes quite frequently during the sleep. So it is like coughing, waking up, gone to sleep, again waking up with cough etc.

Thanks
Rajan
 
RajanTX 5 years ago
Observing
 
Zady101 5 years ago
The cough is most likely from the
back sinus passage in the throat and
having slight dripping that you cannot
really feel, but it makes one cough.
This happens more when sleeping due
to the head position. All of this has to do with the allergies.
 
simone717 5 years ago
Case History:

Patient ID: Sex: Age:
Female, 46yrs old

Please answer the following questions in a descriptive manner after careful analysis and recollection of previous experiences and happenings.

1. Describe your main suffering?
I am suffering from severe sinus congestion with constant/intermittent low grade fever. It used to be only evening fever but lately it’s been almost all the time except early in the morning when I get up from sleep. During fever my eyes burn and I feel cold (whole body). I feel good when my body is covered with layers.
Congestion is very bad and I seldom get any taste or the smell of anything. Also I am very low in energy all the time. It’s hard for me to start any task with the anticipation of not finishing it due to lack of energy. Body is achy all the time. I almost get headaches every morning when I wake up and it starts getting better when I get up from the bed. But in general I get headaches very frequently. I feel stuffiness in my head. I also get pain in my eye sockets; lately it’s been happening very frequently. Headache is in the whole head sometimes it’s more on the back side of the head. It’s always throbbing pain. I almost always get pain on my forehead between eyes. Movements make my headache better. Taking a warm shower helps to relieve the pain. If the headache becomes unbearable I end up taking pain killer like Tylenol or Ibuprofen. Also my whole face hurts due to congestion and I feel fluids in my ears, but my doctor tells me that my ears are fine. I have been having this headache congestion for about few years but this fever issue is from couple of years and it is getting worse. The fever used to be only in the evenings like 99Deg F and not it is sometimes all day and goes as high as 100.1oF. I have no nasal discharge just feeling of congestion, rarely will have minor nasal discharge during warm shower. I have some post nasal discharge.
Also I feel my chest congested all the time. I cough a lot when I lie down on the bed. Sometimes my sleep gets disturbed due to cough.
I have pain in my lower back and left knee. These pains have started about couple of years.
Whenever I talk on the phone or in general with anybody for longer period of time my eyes start burning and my fever goes up but when I rest for few minutes fever comes down.

2. What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?
Knee Pain, pain during walking and discomfort especially while getting up after sitting in one place for a long time. Pain in lower back and pain / knots around neck & shoulder joints.

3. What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?
Mentally I am very down. Nothing excites me. Just like to be alone. I used to be very social and friendly but not anymore. In fact, I prefer to be by myself.
4. What exactly do you feel when you are at your worst?
Lethargic, it feels that the blood has been drained out of my body.

5. When did it all start? Can you connect it to any past event or disease?
Sinus issue started about 6 or 7 years but has gotten worse progressively. No cannot connect with any event or disease.

6. Which time of the day you are worst?
In the afternoon around 3pm.

7. What are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same?
Don’t know what aggravates but definitely talking on the phone or even general casual conversations in person raise my body temperature/fever which starts to get better after 30mins or so.


8. Do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?
No

9. When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?
Don’t see any difference, same all seasons. The area we will live in is hot and humid during the summer and winters are very mild except for certain cold waves from the North.

10. Describe your general mental set up? Are you Moody, Arrogant, Mild, Agreeable Changeable, Nervous, Suspicious, Easily offended, Quiet, Arguing, Irritating, Lazy etc.
Mentally I am very down. Nothing excites me. Just like to be alone. I used to be very social and friendly but not anymore. In fact, I prefer to be by myself. Easy going and non-confrontational, very agreeable, basically don’t want to hurt anybody’s feelings. Overall I am very introvert, even if do not agree with other person, but do not want to come out and express myself. Do not want to ask any favors from anyone, don’t want to be burden on anyone(even if it’s a family member). I do not express my feeling to anyone. Sometimes even If I am sad internally, but I can still put a happy face.
- How do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?
I feel overall and energetic and overall happy during the thunderstorms or heavy rains.

- Do you like being consoled during your tough times? –
I like to be left alone and do not prefer anyone consoling me.

Are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?
No, I don’t think I am sensitive to any stimuli like mentioned above.

- Do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
weeping, talking to one self etc?
No habits like these. But lately I cry very easily, even when I see someone happy, it brings tears in my eyes.

- How do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?
I am family person. Always want to be there for my family. I put my family first, then anything else in this world.

11. What are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?
In general I have this fear that something bad is going to happen to my family, even during happy moments I am unable to rejoice because of the above mentioned concern. No repetitive dreams I can recall.

12. What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?
I used to crave for salty, crunchy, spicy and fried food (even though I avoided eating them due to health reasons) but now days I crave for simple plain vegetarian home cooked meal. Do not enjoy sweets. Lately I have been drinking carbonated water, which helps me feel better in my digestion overall.

13. How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?
Normal

14. How if your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive?
Normal

15. Is there any kind of food which your body can’t stand?
Just food containing meat as I am a vegetarian from the childhood.

16. Is your sweat normal or less or more? Where does it sweat more: Head, Trunk or Limbs?
I do not sweat at all, I do not remember when was the last time I had any sweat

17. How is your bowel movement and stool type?
I have bowel movement once in the morning, every day. If I don’t go in the morning I am unable to go whole day.

18. How well do you sleep? Do you have a particular posture of sleeping?
Sleep is perfectly normal. I usually prefer to sleep on my left side.

19. Do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?
yes

20. How do you think you are different from others, if at all?
Not being able to express myself, easily contended, do not have much desires or aspirations in life.

21. What medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?
No medications in general, but do take Aspirin 81mg daily… just as a preventive medication.

22. What major diseases are running in your family?
My dad passed away in his early fifties due to massive heart attack. Mom has high BP and body aches.

23. Describe, how do you look like? Describe your overall appearance
I have slim body frame. Over all my complexion is very pale.

24. (ONLY FOR FEMALES)

Please answer the following questions:
(Please give details of your past menstruation if you have attained menopause.)
- Are the periods early, regular or late in general? How long do they last?
So far periods are regular, they last about 3 to 4 days.
- Do you suffer from any kind of physical or mental discomfort before, during or after the periods?
I have been grouchy lately few days before my periods. My breasts become very sore couple of weeks before the periods.

- Is the flow scanty, normal or excessive?
It is excessive either on 2nd or 3rd day of the periods.

- Is the blood thick bright red or pale watery?
Thick and dark red
- Do you notice any clots in the flow?
Yes on 2nd or 3rd day when bleeding is excessive
 
RajanTX 5 years ago
How much water does she drink in a day?
 
Zady101 5 years ago
Just fyi Zady- I am working on this right now.
 
simone717 5 years ago
Please order Cimicfuga Racemosa 30c.

You will probably have to order it off this site or you can google it.
You can get pills.

Then get two cell salts- which will be at Whole Foods or the Vitamin
Shoppe- Ferrum phos 6x and Nat Mur 6x. Start taking these two
3 times a day. 3 tabs under the tongue. You can take together - so that
is 6 tabs 3 times a day. Do not eat or drink for 15 minutes before or after.

Cell salts are a another system and they rebalance the cells themselves.

When you get the Cimicifuga let me know and I can give instructions
for dosing.

The cell salts you can start now and update me after 4 days.

Regards,

Simone717
 
simone717 5 years ago
Thanks for all the help.

ok, I have in my possession all the 3 remedies, Nat Mur 6X, Ferrum Phos 6X which I am starting her now as directed, and Cimicifuga 30C.

Please advise on how to take the Cimicifuga 30C?

Thanks again for your prompt help.

Regards,
Rajan
 
RajanTX 5 years ago
Hi Rajan,

You indicated earlier on things she had already taken-

Has she taken Cimicifuga before?

And also , what was the last remedy she has had, and when was
that taken?

On the Cimicifuga, dissolve 3pills in a 1/4 cup of water and take
3 doses ( which would be 1 tsp as a dose) Take one at night,
one in the morning, and one more in the evening. Then wait and
report in 4 days what is going on.

Do the cell salts today, Do the Cimicifuga tomorrow and don't use
the cell salts until the next day.
 
simone717 5 years ago
Hi Simone,

She has not taken Cimicifuga before. Last remedy taken was Ars Alb 200C, about 2 weeks ago. Before Ars Alb, remedy taken was Kali Carb 200C few doses...

ok, will start as directed by you and will report back in 4 days unless needed otherwise.

Appreciate all your help, hope she starts to feel better soon.

Regards,
Rajan
 
RajanTX 5 years ago
Keeping eye....does she ever had any tapering dose steroid treatment...i am now thinking possibility of traces of whooping cough
 
Usehomeopathy 5 years ago
Hi Simone,

Wanted to provide an update (in her own words):

'1. Fever still fluctuating, from 98.6 to 99.7deg F...no change. Yesterday fever went high up to 100.7 and I had fever almost whole day.

2. Congestion is 25 percent better than before but still no smell or taste, yesterday I could smell only for few minutes.

3. Cough is still the same(lot worse in the afternoon when I take a nap). It's so bad that I can't sleep even for 5 min in the afternoon. With the bad cough my body becomes very achy.

4. Overall not getting the feeling of well being. In general I am getting cough even if I am up (but not as bad as during sleep)
Still have lots of post nasal drip.

5. Since yesterday I have this feeling that I am going to get bad headache, but luckily it has not surfaced'.

Wanted to add additional information. In general she feels better when out of the house. However, physical exertion is not well tolerated, fever goes up and she feels exhausted. If any part of her body is not covered she feels cold there.

Please advise.

At Userhomeopathy: she never took any steroids.

Appreciate all the help.
 
RajanTX 5 years ago
Hi-

What is the sensation of the headache that feels like it is going to come on?

Right or left side, top of head, in the forehead, in the eyebrow area,
does it feel like it would be aching, pulsating, boring, be very
descriptive here.

Please get another cell salt, Silicea 6x and start that one 3 tabs 4 times a day
- keep the others 3 times a day.

You are in Texas, and do you have a Whole Foods near you? I would like
you to get Host Defense, Reishi ( it says on the bottle supports a
healthy heart) These are capsules of powdered reishi mushrooms-this is
just food and it has powerful immune system building effects. Start taking
2 of those everyday-If they don't have that brand but have another that is
Reishi ( not cordyceps or others )- that is a powdered pill then you can
get that. Also try to find some tea that has Rosemary in it and that will
help dry up the drip.

Do you have a hepa air cleaner in your home? If not then please get
one at least for the bedroom and run it all day and night and keep
the windows shut.

Do you have pets?
if so please keep them out of that room.

Has the home ever had water damage? Or are there any damp areas in
the home? Are you using any kind of humidifier etc?
When was the last dental check up? Are there any teeth or gum issues going on?

Please get the skin allergy tested. keep doing the cell salts till Monday and
get back to me on the other questions.
[message edited by simone717 on Fri, 04 Jul 2014 05:07:03 BST]
 
simone717 5 years ago
Hi Simone,

Will Silicea 12X work instead of 6X? Same dosage?

I will reply to all your other questions/comments soon.

Thanks
Rajan
 
RajanTX 5 years ago
Yes, go ahead with 12x.
 
simone717 5 years ago
Hi Rajan,

I was going over this again and noticed the daily aspirin use.

This should be stopped. How long has this been taken?


Temperature in the body is regulated by the hypothalamus, located in the brain. When given a trigger for a fever, such as an injury or infection, the body releases prostaglandin E2 (PGE2). PGE2 then in turn acts on the hypothalamus, which generates a systemic response back to the rest of the body, causing the body's temperature to rise. Higher temperature is not always a bad thing. Among other things, it can directly kill some bacteria, increase the body's immune response, increase the flow of blood to damaged or infected areas, and increase enzyme activity. As most natural healers know, if you artificially suppress fever when you are sick, you may temporarily 'feel' better, but you are actually hampering your body's ability to get rid of the disease. And in fact, some healers use a technique called the 'cold sheet treatment6' to actually force body temperature higher during times of illness to accelerate healing -- the exact opposite of 'Take two aspirin and call me in the morning.'

Daily aspirin use increases your risk of developing both stomach ulcers and duodenal ulcers. And, if you have a bleeding ulcer, taking aspirin will cause it to bleed more.
While daily aspirin can help prevent a clot-related stroke, it can increase your risk of a bleeding stroke (hemorrhagic stroke).
If you're allergic to aspirin, taking any amount of aspirin can trigger a serious allergic reaction -- even to the point of anaphylactic shock and death.
Overdosing on aspirin can cause tinnitus and even hearing loss in some people.
If you're taking regular aspirin and are in an accident or require emergency surgery, you risk excessive bleeding during surgery.
And finally, alcohol and aspirin don't mix. In fact, the FDA warns that people who regularly take aspirin should limit the amount of alcohol they drink because of its additional blood-thinning effects and additional potential to upset your stomach.
 
simone717 5 years ago

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