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Homeopathic Warfare (copied)

I mentioned yesterday in my post entitled "Thank You to All" that this was not the first time that I had been subjected to attack by a few individuals for daring to share my 'discoveries' with others members of the Otherhealth Forum.

I am copying below the unedited version of the original copy as it was first posted by the author which was later moderated.

This behaviour on the part of otherwise intelligent persons who display violent reactions to my posting my discoveries which I thought that others too can benefit from, can be the subject of an interesting research project which may be of interest to us all.


Please read all pages up to page 5 in which the following article appears on



It has indeed been a matter of some concern to me that I seem to have inadvertently aroused the ire of many classical homeopaths in describing the methodology I have used during the past 20 years, when I first started to actively help others who sought my assistance in Sri Lanka. Homeopathy to me is a Hobby and I do delight in helping others free of charge.

I have always maintained that I am not qualified with Diplomas and Degrees in Homeopathy as some who post on this and other forums are. At my age of 76 I feel confident that I can even now, fulfill this requirement if it is considered to be a sine qua non to post on this forum by those who scoff and openly deride my efforts to honestly record my own experience in my use of Homeopathic Remedies. I am only too aware that my methods may perhaps differ from those that these other homeopaths of the classical school use in the treatment of their patients. My recording of these cases on this forum was not done out of bravado but in the hope that others who read my post may perhaps remember that Arnica, which I consider a "Miracle Remedy", can be used for some unusual applications which are not normally known.

The fact remains that I have had some unusual success in helping many patients, some of whom were chronic cases which others were not able to cure, which I succeeded with Arnica. I have always maintained that it is not the method adopted in the cure that matters, but it is the cure itself that is paramount in the successful treatment of the case. I might mention here that it is the personal satisfaction that I get from helping someone with a difficult case that impells me to spend my time recording my thoughts on this forum. I do not seek to convert those to whom Homeopathy is a religion from which any deviation attracts dire consequences. I have honestly endeavoured to project another vista of using the great legacy that Hahnemann left us in Homeopathic Remedies which do not suffer in any way in the methods used in their application to help a patient. As I pointed out above it is the cure that is paramount. It is not the method used, classical or otherwise, that matters.

I did notice that one of the Homeopaths had gone to some depths to record only the failures that I had encountered in the use of Arnica, in the treatment of Insomnia. May I inquire from this same Homeopath, how many cases of abject failures has he encountered in his own practice using the commonly used remedies for the many ailments that he has treated ? The mere fact that Arnica did not help a few cases to overcome their insomnia is no reason to declare that it cannot help anyone. If Arnica does not help a case, there are many other remedies that can be used which can be identified using the classical method aided by Radar. I must make it clearly understood that I am not against the classical method. It is just that I am not a slave to it that I wish to make clearly understood especially to those who deride my attitude to Homeopathy.

It seems grossly unfair that I have been singled out from the many others who post on this forum to be at the receiving end of flak from these classical homeopaths one of whom posted a vicious tirade yesterday against me which was recorded on my email version of the posts which I believe that all who subscribe to the email version would have also received, which I shall copy below:

On Aug 4, 2005, at 10:49 AM, otherhealth.com Forums wrote:

Hello Joe De Livera,

Brio has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - Arnica and sleep - in the Homeopathy List Discussion forum of otherhealth.com.

This thread is located at:

Here is the message that has just been posted:
Please see:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/31111/ as of last post: Joe's remedy not working.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/31173/1 as of last post, having tried Joe's suggestions the poster still asks, "What do we do for her sleep ?" In other words, it doesn't seem to be working.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/29319/ another negative experience

Can you explain this discrepancy, Joe?

Are you deliberately lying?

Are you having memory and other brain function problems?


[quote]I have only treated ailments that I feel that I am capable of handling and in the majority of cases where I have suggested any remedy, it had almost always been used by me personally in the past. It is only when I am convinced that it has been of some benefit to me and am satisfied that it is worthy of being used by the patient, that I make bold to suggest the remedy. [/unquote]

But since you jump right in without taking a history or case in any way, you have no way to know how complex a problem may be besides the initial question about what to do for a headache, or what to do for lack of sleep. And your statement do not match to reality as in the statement you make that i quote at the start of this thread, not matching the reality that I find when I go look at the other Forum you refer us to.

I did find one very glowing thank you from someone that was helped, but the negatives I was able to find were more numerous. Unfortunately I didn't find the search function on that site easy to use.

I must admit that I was appalled by this tirade and took it up with the Moderator who confirmed to me that he would have taken action immediately, but that when he checked the post on the forum he discovered that these offending lines had been deleted by the author after posting.

I do believe that this forum and the ABC forum to which I also contribute are both primarily focused on helping anyone who seeks assistance from the group of Homeopaths who all help by contributing their knowledge and experience in the treatment of the ailment that was posted for their advice.

It would seem so very unnecessary for anyone to take up cudgels with a person like me, who has up to now patiently suffered in silence in the recent past, in spite of the direct attacks that have been leveled at me personally on my comprehension of Homeopathy and the methodology that I have used in helping others. It is my right as it is also the right of others who advice on this forum to prescribe any advice which they deem fit. If the classical school of homeopaths feel that the remedy prescribed by me is incorrect or is dangerous, they have every right to criticize it provided it is done in civil terms, with sufficient evidence to prove that the remedy suggested is incorrect or can be dangerous.

I believe that the majority of the flak that I has been levelled against me is due to my not following in the classical tradition which I have often discovered from those who prescribe on this and other forums has invariably not been followed, as this is just not possible without a personal consultation with the patient perhaps with the aid of homeopathic software.

I have invariably based my prescription on my own 'proving' of the remedies that I suggest as I had at some time in the past used Arnica or another remedy on myself to help in the ailment that I was suffering from. If I was not certain of the effect of the remedy, I would not dare to prescribe it to a patient for obvious reasons. It will be observed that it is not essential that the standard classical formula is always adopted during a consultation to prescribe for any ailment if one in certain that the remedy suggested has been used successfully previously for a similar case. I do appreciate that the more complicated cases can be solved more easily with reference to Homeopathic software like Radar and others.

It is not essential that it is only the knowledge that one gathers from attending diploma courses in Homeopathy that is the only qualification to help others. It is eventually the mind and the experience that matters in the identification of the remedy that one uses, with or without the diploma or the software, to help a patient. I do firmly believe that it is the experience that one has accumulated over the years, that is more important in the prescribing of any remedy, to help cure anyone who seeks assistance.

It is strange that this controversy originally started by my recording my own success in the use of Arnica and Nat Phos 6x which I felt that I should share with anyone who was interested in these 2 remedies. I was not aware that they had already been mentioned in Allen's MM which I must admit, I do not have and which I have ordered. I was not interested in the kudos of being the first to discover a new remedy that can cure an ailment which can be helped with either or both these remedies mentioned above. The fact still remains however that Arnica is not commonly used for ailments like Eczema, Cellulitis, Insomnia and many others that I have recorded in this forum. As far as I am aware the use of Nat Phos 6x for Obesity has not been recorded by anyone up to the time that first mentioned it last Christmas Day 2004 on this forum.

I do hope that those who have belittled my efforts at prescribing a remedy to those who post on this forum, seeking a cure for their ailment will please remember that it is not only those who are armed with a diploma who can help suffering humanity. It seems so unnecessary for Homeopaths to seek to vilify others as has been done to me in the recent past, as their primary duty is to help those who post on this and other forums who are in distress, seeking help for their ailments. I do hope that good sense will prevail and that those who post on this and other forums will, at least in the future, please observe the cardinal rules of etiquette and be civil to others in their posts which are read by thousands throughout the world, before they undertake to help cases posted by those who seek assistance on this forum.
  Joe De Livera on 2005-08-12
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