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I just want to thanks DFRANCE like newyork90, because i am like you, I look and look and try alternative treathments, because must be something to do and I never like to quit on anything in my life... I tried too whit lot of things... whit kombucha, whit yode, whit bicarbonate... in a regular basis... like an indian rabbit... and in this thread of 19 pages i found a lot of people and experiences and felt that this was the key... Im in the 4 day...

Nice update...

I started to pells off on my glands. I applied emu oil finally last night before I go bed... THIS really makes me feel good, because just whit the TTO/DMSO things get very sensitive on the glands, between the urethra and the frenulum. But the emu oil really calm down that. My pennis its more softer and normal whit the EMU oil.

See you all... I dont know how to hang photos on this phorum... If anyone knows... To documentate this atarted for DFRANCE whit visible results... Thanks again
 
astor 5 years ago
Nice Update...

I continued peeling off, which its logical. I see my gland less White, more red... last night ive applied just EMU, and this morning I feel less sensitive... Today I`ll continue whit the mix. This its just the 6th day, so I think this gonna get better. Just Hope and confidence in other people results...
I put the mix all on my pennis and wait 10 or 15 minutes whit the pennis outside, taking air and drying the mix... And I prefered to put a Little more EMU in the mis to make that more emolient... just a Little, 15 or 20 drops...

To be continued...
 
astor 5 years ago
Good luck astor ,please keep us updated,my bxo started on my foreskin then spread to the glans then the urethra opening wich was starting to fuse together then finally after seeing countless hopeless doctors,i started using advantan ointment inside my pee hole ,foreskin and glans and luckily it helped clear it up, but my glans are not the purple color it used to be,more like a light pink with a lighter color on the tip,i will also try this remedy to hopefully darken the color of the glans. Thankyou everyone for sharing this remedy.
 
raayf 5 years ago
Hi Rasyf... Nice to hear some other alternative way... I was searching about Adventan... Its a corticoid cream... I Tried Beatametasone and this didnt do nothing on me, neither reduce the size and the itching. I didnt try Adventan. But whit TTO/DMSO/EMU, the itching goes out, not yet the size of the White patch on the glans, but at least its a Little more red on the backstage... jeje. Lets give a try to this threatment... im on the 7th day, just one week. The one thing that gives me hope its the sincerity and interactivity of the thread people... suffering the same illnes and sharing their positive results... specially DFRANCE that started this whitout interests more than help others whit a headache like he lived sometime...

Again... Good luck and share your results... May be we can togheter improve the method...

See ya
 
astor 5 years ago
Hi, I too am gripped by this white ring of death around my foreskin. I have been using the DMSO/TTO for some time but haven't experienced the peeling that many of you describe.

So I wonder what I'm doing so wrong. I just shake the mix and put a few drops onto the affected area. Do you massage it into the skin or something?
[message edited by wantfsf on Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:17:03 BST]
 
wantfsf 5 years ago
Hey guys i found the article from a forum about coconut oil:
balanitis-and-other-penile-infections.html " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.hybridrastamama.com/2013/07/coconut-oil-for-balan...

There is a mention about BXO that it might be curable with coconut oil.
could be worth of try.

wantfsf, i just apply dmso/tto mix to finger and massaging it around my tip of foreskin, even the skin areas that are not affected by disease and i do this about 2-3 times a day and after sometime skin starts to peel.
 
jomppa 5 years ago
HEY guys!

I have a feeling that the problem has different strains of a virus? Because some cases of BXO are very different and respond to different anti-fungal substances. Coconut oil is a great idea.
Also cutting out sugar and dairy in your diet?

I have been applying only once a night because the odor the DMSO gives off is quite terrible! But am looking better and better each morning!!!!!

I found this post on a forum somewhere and thought you guys might like to read it.

'I had phimosis. It snuck up on me. A little itching, a little more itching, a rash, a little swelling. I thought it was jock itch or something like that a first. But those remedies didn't work. Then the foreskin got tighter. Anyway, you know the symptoms after that. I happened to come across this blog when googling for natural remedies.
I used Tea tree oil and DMSO. I happened to have some at the time. I didn't get the emu oil right away. Maybe a week later. Believe me, I thought it was getting worse with the application of that stuff, but I kept doing it. There was splitting and peeling and splitting again. I got the emu oil and started using that as well. I endured it for about two weeks 5,6,7, times a day. I was a painful experience. I had to stop. After I stopped the swelling started to go down and it peeled ant started to heal. The skin was a little tight still but it was tolerable. After 4 or five days it almost seemed like everything was going to be ok. Then is all slowly started to come back again!

I went through the whole process again. It took about another two weeks. Believe it or not. It is completely gone! It has been gone for about six months now. The skin is no longer tight. There are a couple of very minor scars. Other than that, everything is completely normal. This stuff works!'
 
gemini33 5 years ago
Hey Guys,

I was daigonsed with BXO 18 months ago but I had it for about 1 year before I decided to do something about it how stupid I was anyways I didn't have serious symptoms like itching, soreness,un retractable foreskin, redness, bleeding etc. I only ever had a fairly big white patch and other smaller white patches.

Since my diagnoses I have been using steroid creams in particular clobetsol with limited success. Im careful to keep the area clean and dry.

Im going to revamp my diet and start the red clover tabs. From what I can see the 50/50 of teatree oil/DMSO or the emuoil/teatree oil is working great applied to the foreskin. Has anyone applied this mixture to the glans and seen great improvements? I would love to know. I would start this regiment if there success.
 
fox25 5 years ago
Hi all

Like others on here, I'm a long time sufferer of this damn condition. Sounds strange, but I didn't actually realise it was a problem until recently. I have a restored foreskin, and after developing the ring (which is often the cause of men being circumcised) I thought it was simply because my skin was being pulled at an unusual angle due to me not having enough skin on the underside. However, I noticed the skin that used to be shaft skin and was now covering my glans was white, and had been for years. I enquired about it on another forum, and one of the members asked whether it was Lichen Sclerosis. Looking at other pictures of it and reading symptoms, I'm certain.

I've had it, to my knowledge, for the last couple of years. It also explains some other injuries I've undergone to my penis over that time.

I live in New Zealand, and I'm not sure if DMSO is as readily available here as it is in some places. Nonetheless, I'm on a regime that seems to be working.

I'm applying a diluted coating of TTO to the affected area, but the primary treatment I'm banking on for now and seems to be helping is talcum powder with Zinc Oxide in it. I apply a very light coating of Vaseline first then coat it in powder. This keeps the skin dry, and the vaseline helps the powder stick to the skin.

Every night I notice some more peeling. I admit, I've been a little keen and have experienced some of the rawness as a result of peeling too much too soon, but the best news is that today I started peeling at one spot around the ring. This has happened to me before when covering myself in talcum powder, but I thought nothing of it. I did it a couple of weeks ago and stopped, but started again on the weekend. Today is only 3 days later and it's really promising I'm seeing peeling already.

Perhaps I have an advantage over most men in that I have a very short amount of foreskin, so can keep myself peeled back quite easily. I'm doing that in the evenings as well.

If you are going to try this, the only thing I would caution you over is that talcum powder makes the edges of peeling skin very easy to spot, and can make you think it's ready to be removed. Just let it peel in its own time.

I read a post my a guy who spent roughly 30% of his day with his foreskin pulled back and kept it dry, and cured himself of this ailment. So I'm banking on the same philosophy. So far, so good. I'll post updates here.
[message edited by greaneyr on Tue, 17 Jun 2014 10:57:37 BST]
 
greaneyr 5 years ago
I had been applying the TTO/DMSO 50/50, slightly diluted by Emu oil. I eliminated the oil, so it's 'pure' TTO/DMSO I'm now using.

I guess that made the difference and the moisture of emu oil was preventing progress. After 5 days of applying 3 or 4 times daily, a single layer of skin rolled off.

Still a work in progress, as the ring is very deep within the skin. Foreskin-retraction seems ill-advised as an erection makes it painful. So keeping everything totally dry is a challenge.

Getting the outer layer of skin to dry out seems key to getting it peeling.

I had tried the clover, salmon oil etc. supplements, but they really seem ineffective. I notice no benefit at all.

Sugar-elimination seems a tall order. Also, those who drink alcohol presumably haven't eliminated sugar either.
 
wantfsf 5 years ago
I need somewhere to post my updates, so I'm choosing this forum for now.

Something I am doing is definitely working. My BXO was at a very progressed state, starting with the beginnings of the ring about 2 years ago, and spreading in both directions perpendicular to it. I had it as far down my restored foreskin as was pressed against the glans, and I believe I have the beginnings of it on the glans. In other words, a reasonably advanced state. Not bad enough to be affecting the urethra, but bad enough to make the bulk of my inner skin white with the dried paint/dried PVA glue tissue that some call 'scarring'.

Since I began my treatment a week ago, I've noticed the skin at the very base of my inner foreskin is darkening back to normal colour and softening back to normal texture. Fair to say that this is the thinnest place due to the fact that it is the closest to the opening of my foreskin, but it's still a good sign that I'm making progress.

The other thing of note, since peeling too keenly, I have a wound on one side that's still quite raw, so I'm avoiding putting too much powder onto it. The place where the biggest improvement can be seen is on the opposite side to this, which is where I had been applying powder.

I don't think the powder provides any medicinal benefit. I think it's effect is purely from drying the skin out. I have seen plenty of other posts on other sites where people felt that drying and keeping it dry was pivotal to their recovery. The only other thing I have done is scratch gently at that skin when it's bone dry, which I theorize has the effect of further reducing the moisture content and also helping it to flake off. Nothing over the top. Just minor scraping with something that can make tiny white scratch marks. I've been using a pumice stone a little too, although I can't use it on that area so much now because it has thinned and the skin has become more sensitive.

So far, my regime involves:

Keeping it dry at all times. Where possible, retract the foreskin and go 'cut'

When the skin is bone dry, make some tiny, light scratches on any skin that will allow it.

If I have to be covered, lightly cover it with vaseline and then talcum powder.

Clean the area with Hydrogen Peroxide (this is a new one I added in the last couple of days).

Use a magnifying glass to inspect the skin when dry. You'll see lots of flaking skin, which is really encouraging.


It's really annoying I decided to forcefully peel skin back and injure myself, as I'm having to go easy on a reasonable area of skin at the moment, so I'm sure I would have made more progress in the last week if I hadn't. I'm really only able to focus on a small area for now.

Further updates to follow as I learn more.
[message edited by greaneyr on Sat, 21 Jun 2014 10:53:56 BST]
 
greaneyr 5 years ago
Glad there's people carrying the conversation. I hadn't checked the forum in many months. Hope everyone is doing well. If you guys want to email me for any reason, it's benfranksbday at Gmail.
 
dfrance 5 years ago
A week and a half after I began my treatment, it's very clear that what I'm doing is working. It took me a couple of days to see peeling, then just over a week before I saw signs I may be beating it. At the base of my inner foreskin (at the side closest to my body) I'm quite noticeably down to 'normal' skin again. It's still shiny, rather than matte and stretchy like the healthy shaft skin, but so is skin that has had a plaster over the top of it for a while. Since the thick BXO-related tissue has been sitting on top of it for so long, it's understandable that the skin underneath won't look totally normal just yet. But it's pinkish in colour, and smooth in texture rather than wrinkly.

I'm keeping it dry when I can by keeping the skin back, and when I can't for long periods, I cover the BXO area with Curash talcum powder, with Zinc Oxide. Every evening, I dab the area with 3% Hydrogen Peroxide using a q-tip.

I haven't managed to get rid of the ring as yet, but it's showing some nice cracking so is probably a week or so away from coming free.

Over the last couple of days, I actually decided to stop treatment because I wanted the raw wounds (from when I forcibly peeled the skin back) to heal. I covered the area in vitamin E ointment. Counter to what I had expected, it seemed to actually accelerate the shedding of bad skin. I would have thought it would have moisturised and therefore, halted my progress.

Anyway, so far this seems relatively easy to get rid of. I agree with earlier posts on here that state that they think western medicine doesn't actually understand this disease. I'm glad I made the choice to treat it myself, rather than seeing my doctor and loading it up with powerful steroid creams.

Further updates as they come to hand.
 
greaneyr 5 years ago
Brief update from me .... I live in an area which is quite humid this time of year. I had trouble with moisture around the groin, so in the past 2-3 days have been applying unperfumed talc to the groin twice-daily, before applying the TTO/DMSO to the foreskin.

This seems to make a difference. The TTO smarts a lot more, and the foreskin tip is shriveled up.

My only concern right now is about mixing DMSO with baby powder.
 
wantfsf 5 years ago
Hi All guys... and HI DFRANCE..!!! nice to see you again by these places...

Almost 4 weeks of threatment and I experienced the peeling off... and the skin its softer... I tried everything TTO/DMSO/EMU 3 to 6 times a day... I never havent a lot of trouble whit the 'ring', i had it and I Have yet, but I dont care of it because it didnt cause me problems whit erections or something... But my problem its the White patch on the gland rounding the uretra. I didnt experencied some visible positive results on it. I dont know if the emu oil may be its keeping the gland wet... The patch its at the same size and colour... (White) than 30 days ago... Im frustrated. Ill stop using the emu to see what happend and ill try to keep retracted the foreskin whit a band on the penis like others here to see.

Lets see... anyway its good to read positive results here.

Godd wishes for all
 
astor 5 years ago
Update a week on from my last.

This is depressingly slow to treat. This week, my peeling has slowed considerably. One side of my skin is much more pink than the other side. It's the side I started treating first (the other side had an injury just after I started). Except the other side doesn't seem to have started peeling at anywhere near the same rate. Tonight, I took to using a pumice stone to gently scrub away the thick skin on the side that is progressing slower. It's very like a callus. Scrubbing it is entirely painless. It's quite satisfying to have an immediate effect. My theory behind it is that, by thinning the layers of skin, it will make it easier for the peroxide to penetrate down to where it needs to.

I've tried Manuka Honey as an ONT for a couple of nights, but have stopped for a little while as it seems like the 'dryness' approach was working better for me.

Due to the excruciatingly slow progress, I've been forced to dwell on small highlights each week. Highlights for this week are:
1) The obvious 'creep' of 'normal skin' onto the BXO skin. This is apparent in a lot of areas as, while the healthy skin still has the BXO colour, it is raised at the same level as the normal skin rather than being sunk in. Looking with a magnifying glass shows it's getting fine wrinkles, which the healthy ski has, and gaining elasticity.

2) The ring has peeled away a few layers, and it's no longer painful to slide the foreskin back and forwards over the head. I'll leave it up to your imagination to figure out why that particular breakthrough might be beneficial :)

The rate of progress is depressing. I've been battling the effects of this condition now since 2012, and while I know it took a long time to develop and will also take a long time to get rid of, and that I've only been treating it properly for a little under 3 weeks, that still doesn't change the reality that this has affected my life now for two years. I'm trying to be realistic, and I said to myself that July would be the month where I learn how long it's likely to take me to treat my BXO naturally. I'm not expecting a cure by the end of July; I'm just expecting to be able to understand how long I'm likely to have my sex life regulated after so long.
 
greaneyr 5 years ago
Update as I approach the 4-week mark. Treatment this week has involved applying talcum powder every morning after my shower, keeping it dry all day, applying Hydrogen Peroxide in the evening, and Manuka Honey as an overnight treatment.

Progress continues at a steady (albeit slow) rate. It often seems like nothing is happening when you compare it from one day to the next, but looking at photos weeks apart you can definitely see it is. The peeling is evident every day.

Highlights from the last week:

- The very apparent reduction in the phimotic ring. I put this down to the application of Manuka Honey every night.

- The emergence of a few zones of much healthier, shiny, pink skin on my inner skin. BXO on inner skin comes away differently from how it does on shaft skin. On shaft skin, the peeling happens much faster. On inner skin, it either happens very slowly, or it comes away in very small fragments gradually, thinning the skin back to its normal thickness.

The other noteworthy discovery this week is that the red marks on my glans that I thought were unhealed wounds are actually normal tissue. The pale skin around them is the problem - BXO again. I didn't realise that my glans was so badly affected by BXO. I dug out an photo I took of my penis years ago, and noticed that the glans was a different colour from how it is at the moment.

The tip of it (that is open through my foreskin) is, and always has been a more normal pink/red oolour, which I believe proves beyond doubt that BXO in my case is thriving in a damp, anaerobic environment. Take away those two factors and the problem will gradually go away.
[message edited by greaneyr on Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:41:14 BST]
 
greaneyr 5 years ago
It is certainly a slow process. TTO/DMSO causes the peeling, but the ring is extremely stubborn and looks very deep. Keeping the area dry also seems to be crucial.

My real difficulty is knowing whether the treatment will really work, or if I'm just wasting time and effort, enduring the treatment discomfort, with no real benefit.
 
wantfsf 5 years ago
wantfsf, if it's peeling, then it's working. The ring is deep, yes. But I fell into the trap of assuming my skin would all peel off in one fell swoop. When it didn't, I wondered if it was working.

My experience seems to be that the layers gradually thin out. They do that by peeling. The type of peeling we see here is different from anything we've typically experienced in the past. Peeling skin that has been sunburnt will peel off in one sheet. A scab of a healing wound will peel off in one sheet. BXO peels off in what seems like about ten sheets, averaging one per week. Sometimes, it doesn't come off in sheets at all, and instead, the layers gradually break down and shed the skin in small pieces. If the skin is thicker, there will be more of it to lose, so this process will take even longer.

While it probably doesn't seem like the ring is doing anything, the more likely situation is that it's all thinning, but because the ring was so much thicker, it seems like it's not going away. In fact, if you could measure the number of layers, you'd probably still find it has lost plenty too.
[message edited by greaneyr on Sat, 12 Jul 2014 11:56:18 BST]
 
greaneyr 5 years ago
Hi all, I have come across with some websites suggesting that hydrogen peroxide may be succesful for treating the BXO. Don't know if anyone has heard about this. I think though, that so far the most effective treatment for this disease seems to be surgery, the well-known circumcision although there is now some other less invasive alternatives like the state-of-the-art stem cell procedure (worth considering). I am too a BXO sufferer since 3 years and still trying to find the best approach to tackle this nasty disease.
 
draytek 5 years ago
Still circumcision won't guarantee that bxo from coming back to your penis, and i would rather keep my foreskin.

But everyone can do they see fit.
 
jomppa 5 years ago
Well, circumcision has a very high success rate and there are many medical reports backing this up. Obviously no one is happy of losing the foreskin but seems a small price to pay considering the long-term progression of the disease.
 
draytek 5 years ago
Draytek, there are people who have participated in this forum that have had circumcision and have not gotten rid of the disease. In case you missed it at the beginning, this is a website for natural remedies. People are here to avoid slicing themselves up. Pretty much everyone knows that doctors recommend circumcision, but that it doesn't guarantee complete healing. By all means, undergo the knife and let us know how that works for you.
 
dfrance 5 years ago
I actually wonder whether circumcision has such a high success rate because it simply forces the issue of keeping the area dry all of the time. I've read descriptions of it as 'removing the affected skin', but in cases where the glans or sulcus are affected, circumcision obviously isn't going to do that. Those who are circumcised but leave white skin behind recover anyway, despite not removing all the affected skin.

I've read the suggestions about H202, and I'm using it daily as part of my regime. I'm pretty sure it helps.

Personally, I'm forming the opinion that keeping the area dry is literally all I need to do to get over this. Stuff like talcum powder helps to dry the area quicker, hydrogen peroxide helps to loosen the dead skin, and manuka honey seems to help with the healing of the ring. But ultimately, I think I could probably drop the peroxide and manuka honey and just stick to keeping it dry to achieve a similar result.

I haven't changed my diet. In fact, I've eaten quite a bit of sweet food and drunk a reasonable amount of alcohol (by my standards at least) this past month, yet my recovery continues.

Going by what I've seen so far, I really can't understand why western medicine seems to struggle so much with this. Although it has been suggested on here (and I agree) that BXO is a symptom of one of several underlying causes. Perhaps mine is just easier to address than others. I don't know. I just know that surgery for me is a last resort, and yet with this ailment I'm making progress without even using prescription medication for it.
[message edited by greaneyr on Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:34:23 BST]
 
greaneyr 5 years ago
I agree with all of you that circumcision should be the last resort. Even steroids o tacrolimus can put this disease into remission in a couple of months and alternative medicine may work out after long-term treatment. Saying this, my BXO is starting to affect the tip of the meatus so thats the reason i was considering surgery asap.

I really think that the urine was probably the trigger and is the medium for the BXO to progress, as i had noted for some years urine drops coming out after voiding (dribbling). That urine trapped under the foreskin may have been the reason for long-standing inflamation and posterior trigger of the disease.
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draytek 5 years ago
You know what I first thought when I noticed my BXO? How much it reminded me of wet skin after you've been sitting in the bath for too long. I'm thinking specifically about the skin around the sides of the fingernails. That's exactly how it looked, and how it felt too. It was always urine that had made it wet, and I didn't initially realise it was a bad thing, as I thought it was just like wet skin.

Like you, I'd been noticing drops of urine coming out after urinating for a few years, and it probably ties in nicely with when BXO started. Now, I always use the stalls when going to the toilet, simply because I absolutely must use toilet paper to keep dry.

How much foreskin do you have? Are you fully covered when flaccid? What treatments have you tried?

The reason I ask is that I recall a few years back noticing what I suspect was a meatal stricture beginning to form. It never really affected my flow, but I was never happy about it. However, I noticed at the start of this year that it was gone - perhaps a result of the treatments I had tried last year to rid myself of the 'red marks on my glans' (which were actually non_BXO skin). It would seem to me that, if it's at all possible, you might want to try either exposing the tip of your glans, or at the very least, putting some powder on to try and encourage it to dry out.
 
greaneyr 5 years ago

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