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Hi Frankie
I am glad that your son is improving.
When you don't have good homeopaths around, you don't have any other alternative, except to go in the traditional way.
Millions use allopathy, and all are not sick because of that.
In emergencies,allopathy is still the saviour, particularly, when you don't have good homeopaths around.
Antibiotics once in a way,doesn't to much harm.However try to avoid allopathic medication for minor problems.
Allopathy is much better than this mixopathy.If you want to go to a new homeopath in future, make sure that he is a competent classical homeopath, who gives you one medicine at a time, and waits for response.
All the best.
Murthy
I am glad that your son is improving.
When you don't have good homeopaths around, you don't have any other alternative, except to go in the traditional way.
Millions use allopathy, and all are not sick because of that.
In emergencies,allopathy is still the saviour, particularly, when you don't have good homeopaths around.
Antibiotics once in a way,doesn't to much harm.However try to avoid allopathic medication for minor problems.
Allopathy is much better than this mixopathy.If you want to go to a new homeopath in future, make sure that he is a competent classical homeopath, who gives you one medicine at a time, and waits for response.
All the best.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
To:
Governor ABC Homeopathy
Your Excellency, in 4 days this thread has not brought even a single story.
I am a little humble person but have a small advise if you bother to consider.
Your Majesty, you should attach your High School Diploma also, to add weight to your plea.
Most Humbly Yours
kuldeep
Governor ABC Homeopathy
Your Excellency, in 4 days this thread has not brought even a single story.
I am a little humble person but have a small advise if you bother to consider.
Your Majesty, you should attach your High School Diploma also, to add weight to your plea.
Most Humbly Yours
kuldeep
kuldeep last decade
I had a similar problem. I engaged the services of a pseudo 'homeopath' online for a fee. I was not asked many questions after beginning treatment just told to 'keep taking the remedy', for months! Absolutely no questions asked during this time. I started off great then felt really ill. I have a supply of homeopathic books and the Organon states that a wrong remedy when given in high dose and repeated indiscriminately can do much harm - eventually surrendering an organ. I was mortified and knew then that I had been 'had'.
Turned out this 'homeopath' was not a true homeopath and I can only guess what his motives were.
I eventually got in touch with a classical homeopath and my true simillimum was found,
thankyou god.
salty
Turned out this 'homeopath' was not a true homeopath and I can only guess what his motives were.
I eventually got in touch with a classical homeopath and my true simillimum was found,
thankyou god.
salty
saltOftheEarth last decade
From His Majesty the 'Governor of ABC Homeopathy' to Kuldeep,the subject.
Your plea is answered now.
Murthy
Your plea is answered now.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Yes Murthy
I can only agree, it would be great it both sides could respect each other it would lead to so much more positive information that could help to educate people. Alternative therapy is not regulated in this country and consequently its easy for people to have experiences like mine. Information and regulation would go a long way to prevent this kind of thing.
Frankie
I can only agree, it would be great it both sides could respect each other it would lead to so much more positive information that could help to educate people. Alternative therapy is not regulated in this country and consequently its easy for people to have experiences like mine. Information and regulation would go a long way to prevent this kind of thing.
Frankie
frankieo last decade
Thanks Frankie and Saltoftheearth
Feedback like this will open the eyes of presribers here, who care a damn about the health of the patients, and dishout the prescriptions,without following any guidelines.
Our masters have laid out, well thought out guidelines, after knowing the dangers, homeopathy can cause, and it is strange that, in these days, in the name of innovation, all caution is being thrown to wind.
Kent used to say,most of the patients are saved from this sort of prescribers, simply becase majority of them prescribe, a non indicated remdedy for which the susceptibility doesn't exist in the patient. In such cases, it is as if taking nothing, and the worst thing that can happen is natural progression of disease.
However in cases where you have susceptibility to the medicine even in a limited way, it will create havoc for you, if repeated indiscriminately for months together.
It is better to keep quiet, and let the patient think of alternatives available to him, than give a wrong prescription, multiple prescriptions, and weird schedules of repetetion.
I am glad that my efforts are bearing fruit.Now a days,presribers here are cautious.
I can't change the whole lot of homeopathic prescribers around the world, but those few, who visit here, and read my posts, will atleast pause and think, before they prescribe.
My efforts will continue, and wish me success in my efforts.
Murthy
Feedback like this will open the eyes of presribers here, who care a damn about the health of the patients, and dishout the prescriptions,without following any guidelines.
Our masters have laid out, well thought out guidelines, after knowing the dangers, homeopathy can cause, and it is strange that, in these days, in the name of innovation, all caution is being thrown to wind.
Kent used to say,most of the patients are saved from this sort of prescribers, simply becase majority of them prescribe, a non indicated remdedy for which the susceptibility doesn't exist in the patient. In such cases, it is as if taking nothing, and the worst thing that can happen is natural progression of disease.
However in cases where you have susceptibility to the medicine even in a limited way, it will create havoc for you, if repeated indiscriminately for months together.
It is better to keep quiet, and let the patient think of alternatives available to him, than give a wrong prescription, multiple prescriptions, and weird schedules of repetetion.
I am glad that my efforts are bearing fruit.Now a days,presribers here are cautious.
I can't change the whole lot of homeopathic prescribers around the world, but those few, who visit here, and read my posts, will atleast pause and think, before they prescribe.
My efforts will continue, and wish me success in my efforts.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Dear Salt, I would estimate that in roughly a third of all the cases I have treated in my 12 years of practice, which would equal many hundreds, I have first had to unravel the mess caused by those who claim to be Homoeopaths, and this is in real life, not online, so I'm afraid your's is not an unfamiliar story.
My advice to anyone seeking Homoeopathic treatment, would be to educate yourselves of the founding principles first, thus placing yourselves in a much better position to see the fallacies and misinterpretation of these principles, in the way these people prescribe.
Best wishes to all.
-Jacob.
My advice to anyone seeking Homoeopathic treatment, would be to educate yourselves of the founding principles first, thus placing yourselves in a much better position to see the fallacies and misinterpretation of these principles, in the way these people prescribe.
Best wishes to all.
-Jacob.
Hahnemania last decade
I can see that Murthy and Jacob are exuberant that he has received accolades from 2 members who have supported his concept of classical homeopathy.
I would request him to remember that just one or two swallows do not make a summer.
I would request him to remember that just one or two swallows do not make a summer.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Correction to first para:
I can see that Murthy and Jacob are exuberant that THEY HAVE received accolades from THEIR concept of classical homeopathy.
I can see that Murthy and Jacob are exuberant that THEY HAVE received accolades from THEIR concept of classical homeopathy.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Here is my rejoinder which I have copied from another thread:
Re: The theory of suppression From Joe De Livera on 2006-11-17
I am indeed glad that Murthy is sending up this thread to remind members of how shamless he is and just in case members wonder what I mean, I am copying part of my post above to highlight the inner workings of his deranged mind which he has admitted himself 'boils over'. He is advised to use allopathic diagnosis and assistance before he bursts a blood vessel in the process of boiling over and suffers from an aneurysm.
Here is the short extract I referred to above:
Re: any remedy for digestion From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-10
sigh..
Murthy
Re: any remedy for digestion From Joe De Livera on 2006-11-10
I notice that you often resort to
' sigh '
whenever you are cornered.
Have you no sense of SHAME ?
Murthy
Avoid doing things to others which will make you red when others do it to you.
Mahabharat-Hindu Epic
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Re: any remedy for digestion From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-10
no.
I do really wonder if he ever reads the Manabharat-Hindu Epic any more.
He is to be pitied.
I hope he will continue to bump this thread up daily to ensure that the whole world identifies him to be the lunatic that he tries hard to make me out to be merely because I like to help patients in my own way which has been eminently successful as can be verified by reference to my posts in the archives which are now almost at 5000 on the ABC.
Murthy continues to criticize my efforts on almost every post and does not have any compunctions about how low he can stoop to in doing so and I presume will continue his 'boiling over' process till he is confronted with that inevitable Aneurysm.
Re: The theory of suppression From Joe De Livera on 2006-11-17
I am indeed glad that Murthy is sending up this thread to remind members of how shamless he is and just in case members wonder what I mean, I am copying part of my post above to highlight the inner workings of his deranged mind which he has admitted himself 'boils over'. He is advised to use allopathic diagnosis and assistance before he bursts a blood vessel in the process of boiling over and suffers from an aneurysm.
Here is the short extract I referred to above:
Re: any remedy for digestion From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-10
sigh..
Murthy
Re: any remedy for digestion From Joe De Livera on 2006-11-10
I notice that you often resort to
' sigh '
whenever you are cornered.
Have you no sense of SHAME ?
Murthy
Avoid doing things to others which will make you red when others do it to you.
Mahabharat-Hindu Epic
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Re: any remedy for digestion From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-10
no.
I do really wonder if he ever reads the Manabharat-Hindu Epic any more.
He is to be pitied.
I hope he will continue to bump this thread up daily to ensure that the whole world identifies him to be the lunatic that he tries hard to make me out to be merely because I like to help patients in my own way which has been eminently successful as can be verified by reference to my posts in the archives which are now almost at 5000 on the ABC.
Murthy continues to criticize my efforts on almost every post and does not have any compunctions about how low he can stoop to in doing so and I presume will continue his 'boiling over' process till he is confronted with that inevitable Aneurysm.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Repeat performance.
I doubt that you will ever return to the old Murthy that I first knew about 3 years ago and those who visit the ABC wonder when that fateful 'boiling over' of your brain which you reported yourself, will occur.
I doubt that you will ever return to the old Murthy that I first knew about 3 years ago and those who visit the ABC wonder when that fateful 'boiling over' of your brain which you reported yourself, will occur.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Hi Jacob,
unfortunately most people don't want to spend the time to get to the nuts and bolts of homeopathy - the principles, some prefer to watch soaps. Only if they prize the life god gave them can they see through the fog. Luckily for the truth seekers there are many good websites and many good books.
Speaking of books, I love books, lots and lots of books.
If you don't have your health, you have nothing.
Thanks to god for Hahnemann!
have a great day,
salty
unfortunately most people don't want to spend the time to get to the nuts and bolts of homeopathy - the principles, some prefer to watch soaps. Only if they prize the life god gave them can they see through the fog. Luckily for the truth seekers there are many good websites and many good books.
Speaking of books, I love books, lots and lots of books.
If you don't have your health, you have nothing.
Thanks to god for Hahnemann!
have a great day,
salty
saltOftheEarth last decade
Dear salty,
I wish that you participate more often on this forum educating prospective patients about correct homeopathic principles and treatment based on your experiences.
I am happy that you were healed and yes, indeed Hahnemann was God's gift to the world.So are all the people.But most of us waste the gift by refusing to believe that we are gifts of God and behave with one another as if we are aliens, even enemies.Let us help as many people as we can in finding the gifts that God has blessed them with.Health is certainly one of those gifts.
Rajiv
I wish that you participate more often on this forum educating prospective patients about correct homeopathic principles and treatment based on your experiences.
I am happy that you were healed and yes, indeed Hahnemann was God's gift to the world.So are all the people.But most of us waste the gift by refusing to believe that we are gifts of God and behave with one another as if we are aliens, even enemies.Let us help as many people as we can in finding the gifts that God has blessed them with.Health is certainly one of those gifts.
Rajiv
♡ rajivprasad last decade
'I can see that Murthy and Jacob are exuberant that he has received accolades from 2 members who have supported his concept of classical homeopathy.'
Unlike the unfounded convoluted 'subsystems' practiced by certain amateurs here, the only accolades classical Homoeopaths require is 200 years of experience and sucess, not to mention our experiences in REAL life, i.e not just on the internet.
Such 'subsystems' which claim to be based on Homoeopathy always pass away with time. We have seen many appear and dissapear again in the last two centuries, they are irrelevant to us, and the above is no exception, it will soon pass away and be forgotten, as will it's self proclaimed 'discoverer'.
'I would request him to remember that'...one misguided amateur most certainly does not pose a threat.
Best wishes all :)
-Jacob.
Unlike the unfounded convoluted 'subsystems' practiced by certain amateurs here, the only accolades classical Homoeopaths require is 200 years of experience and sucess, not to mention our experiences in REAL life, i.e not just on the internet.
Such 'subsystems' which claim to be based on Homoeopathy always pass away with time. We have seen many appear and dissapear again in the last two centuries, they are irrelevant to us, and the above is no exception, it will soon pass away and be forgotten, as will it's self proclaimed 'discoverer'.
'I would request him to remember that'...one misguided amateur most certainly does not pose a threat.
Best wishes all :)
-Jacob.
Hahnemania last decade
Your Majesty, Dear Sir Murthy, God put us on this earth to help each other, to add to your WORKS, I have a precise story to tell.
In 1977 one homeopath gave me two medicines, simultaneously for two weeks.
Then in 1999, my foot sprained. Now one can put together two plus two to make four.
In 1977 one homeopath gave me two medicines, simultaneously for two weeks.
Then in 1999, my foot sprained. Now one can put together two plus two to make four.
kuldeep last decade
Thank you Kuldeep for posting on this thread. I hope you have visited Murthy's own thread 'Congrats ABC' which he made yesterday to which I have just posted the letter addressed to him which I shal copy below:
Dear Simon
I was glad to note that you have finally stepped into this ongoing controversy which was precipitated by Murthy shadowing the posts of every one of the resident prescribers on the ABC comprising Pankaj, Kuldeep, Mohan and I who have been the backbone of the ABC for some years, since June 2003 to be precise in mine. You will observe that Murthy who first registered about 2 years ago preferred to be exclusively on the Hpathy forum from which he was kicked out and then decided to infest this once peaceful Homeoapthic forum ably aided by the resident self confessed witch Nisha and now Hahnemann and they have all succeeded in turning the ABC into a battle ground which is far removed from the original purpose for which it was founded and which is now the laughing stock of the world. I must admit that I feel a sense of sadness that you have permitted it to degenerate to the level that it is at today and you must take the blame for not using your administrative power to stop this controversy before it reached the pitch it is at today.
Murthy rightly claimed credit for increasing the number of posts from 50 which was the case up to recently to 90 during the course of the brief period that he has spent here. He has succeeded in sowing the seeds of raw hatred against us all and you must understand that it takes a lot of our time to be compelled to respond to the inane posts of these trolls which I frankly do not enjoy doing although it brings out the best in my literary skills which I specialized in throughout my career. It also prods my aging mind which in a way is good for it to perform as I have done successfully for the last 77 years especially when I am faced with a challenge. You must remember that in responding to his taunts, this is done at the expense of my own professional work and also of helping the patients.
The time has come for you to use your administrative powers as the moderator of this forum and to specify to all the trolls that they must behave, as you have done for the first time in many months above. It is a pity that you have permitted trolls of this caliber to shadow every one of our posts and you must know that your laissez faire attitude that you have chosen is doing untold damage to your forum. It is also the reason for an unwarranted wastage of our time in responding to these inane posts, which we can use for the good of the patients who depend on us for help.
I have tried to persuade you in the past that trolls must never be permitted on the ABC but you have always stated that you prefer to have free speech on the ABC where everyone is welcome to voice an opinion. You will observe that today it is not a matter of free speech that is concerned. It is more that fact that these trolls have taken upon themselves the onus of questioning each and every one of the prescriptions that I and the others make on the grounds that they are not classical. They pretend to be the only source of classical prescriptions but it is sad to note that the number of times that they have tried to help their patients have resulted in the patients either leaving the forum or not responding to their classical prescriptions. It seems very surprising to me on what grounds their prescriptions can be considered any more or less classical than those that I make which I have always been based on my experience dating back over 25 years on practicing my own brand of the 'this for that' attitude to homeopathy also now known as Joepathy which the majority of homeopathy are now using in the Indian subcontinent. I have always sought to bring Homeopathy out into the open, into a process of logical application which has shown more positive results than the classical interpretation of this science which has for some years remained within the fold of a select few so called classical homeopaths who prefer to have it that was to enable them to reap the rich rewards of the exclusive classical interpretation of this precious science, usually without any regard for the patient's well being. There are many instances on this forum which you can refer to where the patient posts his complaint in agony after having undergone treatment from a classical homeopath and discover within a few days or even hours that my Joepathy has helped them to overcome their ailment. I have always maintained that the interest of the patient is paramount and it is not the definition of whether the remedy that I prescribed was classical or Joepathy. All I am interested in ensuring is that the patient is healed as quickly as possible and I believe that I have lead the revolution in this approach to homeopathy which is now fast eclipsing the classical method which I am convinced will die out in a few years in the future as the classical hopes to keep on fooling all the people (patients) all the time.
I would like to draw your attention to the position that obtained on the NCH to which I was invited to join about a year ago. I soon discovered that I was subjected to the same level of insults and interference I suffered on the ABC by its resident group of trolls who were also self confessed skeptics. I made representations to the owners of the forum, which was the Government of Pakistan and they finally decided after about 6 months when I refused to participate in the discussions that enough was enough and they banned everyone whom they considered a troll and even went to the extent of banning some of my own friends whom I had requested to question my posts to elucidate more information on the method I use which is now accepted as Joepathy.
I would suggest that you read some of the posts that have been fired up and down on the ABC yesterday and today and I do hope that you will maintain a strict control of the ABC and restore it to the peaceful position that it enjoyed a few months ago till the invasion.
Joe De Livera
Dear Simon
I was glad to note that you have finally stepped into this ongoing controversy which was precipitated by Murthy shadowing the posts of every one of the resident prescribers on the ABC comprising Pankaj, Kuldeep, Mohan and I who have been the backbone of the ABC for some years, since June 2003 to be precise in mine. You will observe that Murthy who first registered about 2 years ago preferred to be exclusively on the Hpathy forum from which he was kicked out and then decided to infest this once peaceful Homeoapthic forum ably aided by the resident self confessed witch Nisha and now Hahnemann and they have all succeeded in turning the ABC into a battle ground which is far removed from the original purpose for which it was founded and which is now the laughing stock of the world. I must admit that I feel a sense of sadness that you have permitted it to degenerate to the level that it is at today and you must take the blame for not using your administrative power to stop this controversy before it reached the pitch it is at today.
Murthy rightly claimed credit for increasing the number of posts from 50 which was the case up to recently to 90 during the course of the brief period that he has spent here. He has succeeded in sowing the seeds of raw hatred against us all and you must understand that it takes a lot of our time to be compelled to respond to the inane posts of these trolls which I frankly do not enjoy doing although it brings out the best in my literary skills which I specialized in throughout my career. It also prods my aging mind which in a way is good for it to perform as I have done successfully for the last 77 years especially when I am faced with a challenge. You must remember that in responding to his taunts, this is done at the expense of my own professional work and also of helping the patients.
The time has come for you to use your administrative powers as the moderator of this forum and to specify to all the trolls that they must behave, as you have done for the first time in many months above. It is a pity that you have permitted trolls of this caliber to shadow every one of our posts and you must know that your laissez faire attitude that you have chosen is doing untold damage to your forum. It is also the reason for an unwarranted wastage of our time in responding to these inane posts, which we can use for the good of the patients who depend on us for help.
I have tried to persuade you in the past that trolls must never be permitted on the ABC but you have always stated that you prefer to have free speech on the ABC where everyone is welcome to voice an opinion. You will observe that today it is not a matter of free speech that is concerned. It is more that fact that these trolls have taken upon themselves the onus of questioning each and every one of the prescriptions that I and the others make on the grounds that they are not classical. They pretend to be the only source of classical prescriptions but it is sad to note that the number of times that they have tried to help their patients have resulted in the patients either leaving the forum or not responding to their classical prescriptions. It seems very surprising to me on what grounds their prescriptions can be considered any more or less classical than those that I make which I have always been based on my experience dating back over 25 years on practicing my own brand of the 'this for that' attitude to homeopathy also now known as Joepathy which the majority of homeopathy are now using in the Indian subcontinent. I have always sought to bring Homeopathy out into the open, into a process of logical application which has shown more positive results than the classical interpretation of this science which has for some years remained within the fold of a select few so called classical homeopaths who prefer to have it that was to enable them to reap the rich rewards of the exclusive classical interpretation of this precious science, usually without any regard for the patient's well being. There are many instances on this forum which you can refer to where the patient posts his complaint in agony after having undergone treatment from a classical homeopath and discover within a few days or even hours that my Joepathy has helped them to overcome their ailment. I have always maintained that the interest of the patient is paramount and it is not the definition of whether the remedy that I prescribed was classical or Joepathy. All I am interested in ensuring is that the patient is healed as quickly as possible and I believe that I have lead the revolution in this approach to homeopathy which is now fast eclipsing the classical method which I am convinced will die out in a few years in the future as the classical hopes to keep on fooling all the people (patients) all the time.
I would like to draw your attention to the position that obtained on the NCH to which I was invited to join about a year ago. I soon discovered that I was subjected to the same level of insults and interference I suffered on the ABC by its resident group of trolls who were also self confessed skeptics. I made representations to the owners of the forum, which was the Government of Pakistan and they finally decided after about 6 months when I refused to participate in the discussions that enough was enough and they banned everyone whom they considered a troll and even went to the extent of banning some of my own friends whom I had requested to question my posts to elucidate more information on the method I use which is now accepted as Joepathy.
I would suggest that you read some of the posts that have been fired up and down on the ABC yesterday and today and I do hope that you will maintain a strict control of the ABC and restore it to the peaceful position that it enjoyed a few months ago till the invasion.
Joe De Livera
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
I will not be detered by these 'copy and paste' posts.
I have already replied to this post ,on some other thread.
To the 1977 and 1979 stories........
What diseases are more likely to follow the one suppressed are clearly given in the thread
The theory of suppression.
Sprained foot is not one of them. Readers are intelligent enough to grasp the obvious from such remarks.
I don't have to rebut them.
Interested people may go there, and read from the first page.
Murthy
I have already replied to this post ,on some other thread.
To the 1977 and 1979 stories........
What diseases are more likely to follow the one suppressed are clearly given in the thread
The theory of suppression.
Sprained foot is not one of them. Readers are intelligent enough to grasp the obvious from such remarks.
I don't have to rebut them.
Interested people may go there, and read from the first page.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
I would like to copy and paste a post that I have just made in response to Rajiv's post where he reminded me that Clarke's own work entitled 'The Prescriber' is based on my own attitude to Homeopathy.
I am doing so as I feel that this article would be of interest to those who read this thread and is another rebuttal to Murthy who I can see seems to be succumbing to the attacke from all sides which he invited as a result of his hypocritical attitude to classical homeopathy.
Dear Rajiv,
Thank you for reminding me about Clarke's 'The Prescriber' which I immediately recollected having studied many years ago and which was sitting right there on my bookshelf part of which I have devoted to Homeopathy in my library comprising over 5000 books on many subjects under the sun, ranging from Motor engineering to Rose growing to Homeopathy and many other subjects. I had quite frankly forgotten about this book which I would otherwise have quoted earlier in my defense if only I had remebered it all these months when I was under constant attack for my Joepathy.
You are quite correct in stating that the remedies listed in it have all been recorded by Clarke based on his own experience with that of other homeopaths in the same manner that I prescribe for an ailment. It seems such a pity that this science of Homeopathy has been degraded to the present level by those who profess to be the classical sect which I believe that they have deliberately done, as they seem to resent the fact that we who are not qualified seem to be cutting the grass from under the feet of the classical sect, which renders them sensitive to the fact that they are losing their revenue when they discover that their patients whom they have been treating for years, post on the ABC and immediately experience an almost immediate cure within a few days or in some instances in hours.
I refer to the case of Shiny's son Mihir who was a child Asthmatic who was on a gamut of drugs and inhalers and was for the first time in many years soundly asleep within a few hours of his first dose of Nat Sulph 6c in the wet dose,. I have just consulted Clarke where he refers to Nat Sulph 3 and states ' In Hydrogenoid subjects; with morning diarrhoea Nat Sulph 3 gr.IV 4hr. I believe that he had not experienced the blessed relief that I have been able to bring to chronic sufferers like Mihir with Nat Sulph 6c in the wet dose. Since I first started to treat him he has shown positive signs of alleviation of his condition which Shiny the mother does not report any more as I presume that he is perhaps cured.
As you are aware, all I have done is to share my own experiences with the use of remedies as Clarke has done which I encourage others too to emulate by sharing the remedy that they used for a patient which evoked a response and even perhaps cured another ailment that the patient suffered from, like my discovery that Arnica helped to stabilize Diabetes and Nat Phos 6x to help in Obesity. If you read the many posts that have been made in the last few days, you will observe that the 2 classical homeopathic trolls, and of course the self confessed homeopathic witch, have all banded together against me to deride my efforts in my use of the direct 'this for that' approach as they were unaware that Clarke himself who was a non qualified homeopath, experimented with remedies in varying potencies and when he discovered a remedy at a certain potency had some positive curative aspect for a particular disease or ailment he would record it , strangely enough as I do myself. It is in the sharing of his own experience that he is still remembered today as the other greats and it is unfortunate that the present clique of so called 'classical homeopaths' forget that this precious science was not intended to be used in the manner that they are doing today, prime examples of which are evident in the person of both Murthy and Jacob who are quick to shadow my every post and delight in only criticizing them on the basis that I have not used their high faluting classical method of diagnosis and identification of the remedy that I prescribe. It is their sheer hypocritical critique of my posts that really gets me down when all I seek to do is to help the patient and this invariably results in either or often both of these trolls shadowing my every post only to criticize them on the grounds of their being non classical. They have often warned the patient that the use of the remedies I prescribe is even dangerous for their ailment as they fondly imagine that they could even lead to cancer or other horrible after effects. It is ironic to note that these same patients often have refuted these critical posts by confirming that my remedies have worked wonderfully well and some have openly ordered the classical duo to stop pestering them and me.
As you are aware the large majority of practicing homeopaths in the Indian subcontinent who are qualified use the same direct system of treatment that I use and it is indeed unfortunate that they do not have the courage to openly confirm that they do so, perhaps fearing that they will lose their license to practice if they do. There is absolutely no question that those who see over 20 patients daily do not and cannot use the classical system complete with its painful case taking procedure which many patients who have weathered it have often referred to as being so very unnecessary when the patient consulted the homeopath for an ailment like GERD for which he was given a constitutional remedy which made a bad situation even worse. This same patient reported that he had almost immediate relief within a few minutes of his using Nat Phos 6x which I had prescribed which I gave him from my stock free of charge as is my policy in treating all patients who consult me.
I do hope that I will live to see the day that the practice of Homeopathic is rationalized on the line of my Joepathy or as you coined another phrase, Clarkepathy. All I am interested is to ensure that the wool is finally removed from the eyes of the patient who consults a homeopath who I hope will use the same direct system that I advocate which I feel will enable this science to forge ahead into the 21 st Century from where it has been stagnating for the last 50 years due to the machinations of that select group of classical homeopaths who prefer to keep it under wraps in order to ensure that these same classical homeopaths will be able to continue to milk the patient with their classical case taking procedure and the subsequent constitutional remedy which will only compel the patient to seek another consultation in a few days.
And consultations do not usually come cheap !
I am doing so as I feel that this article would be of interest to those who read this thread and is another rebuttal to Murthy who I can see seems to be succumbing to the attacke from all sides which he invited as a result of his hypocritical attitude to classical homeopathy.
Dear Rajiv,
Thank you for reminding me about Clarke's 'The Prescriber' which I immediately recollected having studied many years ago and which was sitting right there on my bookshelf part of which I have devoted to Homeopathy in my library comprising over 5000 books on many subjects under the sun, ranging from Motor engineering to Rose growing to Homeopathy and many other subjects. I had quite frankly forgotten about this book which I would otherwise have quoted earlier in my defense if only I had remebered it all these months when I was under constant attack for my Joepathy.
You are quite correct in stating that the remedies listed in it have all been recorded by Clarke based on his own experience with that of other homeopaths in the same manner that I prescribe for an ailment. It seems such a pity that this science of Homeopathy has been degraded to the present level by those who profess to be the classical sect which I believe that they have deliberately done, as they seem to resent the fact that we who are not qualified seem to be cutting the grass from under the feet of the classical sect, which renders them sensitive to the fact that they are losing their revenue when they discover that their patients whom they have been treating for years, post on the ABC and immediately experience an almost immediate cure within a few days or in some instances in hours.
I refer to the case of Shiny's son Mihir who was a child Asthmatic who was on a gamut of drugs and inhalers and was for the first time in many years soundly asleep within a few hours of his first dose of Nat Sulph 6c in the wet dose,. I have just consulted Clarke where he refers to Nat Sulph 3 and states ' In Hydrogenoid subjects; with morning diarrhoea Nat Sulph 3 gr.IV 4hr. I believe that he had not experienced the blessed relief that I have been able to bring to chronic sufferers like Mihir with Nat Sulph 6c in the wet dose. Since I first started to treat him he has shown positive signs of alleviation of his condition which Shiny the mother does not report any more as I presume that he is perhaps cured.
As you are aware, all I have done is to share my own experiences with the use of remedies as Clarke has done which I encourage others too to emulate by sharing the remedy that they used for a patient which evoked a response and even perhaps cured another ailment that the patient suffered from, like my discovery that Arnica helped to stabilize Diabetes and Nat Phos 6x to help in Obesity. If you read the many posts that have been made in the last few days, you will observe that the 2 classical homeopathic trolls, and of course the self confessed homeopathic witch, have all banded together against me to deride my efforts in my use of the direct 'this for that' approach as they were unaware that Clarke himself who was a non qualified homeopath, experimented with remedies in varying potencies and when he discovered a remedy at a certain potency had some positive curative aspect for a particular disease or ailment he would record it , strangely enough as I do myself. It is in the sharing of his own experience that he is still remembered today as the other greats and it is unfortunate that the present clique of so called 'classical homeopaths' forget that this precious science was not intended to be used in the manner that they are doing today, prime examples of which are evident in the person of both Murthy and Jacob who are quick to shadow my every post and delight in only criticizing them on the basis that I have not used their high faluting classical method of diagnosis and identification of the remedy that I prescribe. It is their sheer hypocritical critique of my posts that really gets me down when all I seek to do is to help the patient and this invariably results in either or often both of these trolls shadowing my every post only to criticize them on the grounds of their being non classical. They have often warned the patient that the use of the remedies I prescribe is even dangerous for their ailment as they fondly imagine that they could even lead to cancer or other horrible after effects. It is ironic to note that these same patients often have refuted these critical posts by confirming that my remedies have worked wonderfully well and some have openly ordered the classical duo to stop pestering them and me.
As you are aware the large majority of practicing homeopaths in the Indian subcontinent who are qualified use the same direct system of treatment that I use and it is indeed unfortunate that they do not have the courage to openly confirm that they do so, perhaps fearing that they will lose their license to practice if they do. There is absolutely no question that those who see over 20 patients daily do not and cannot use the classical system complete with its painful case taking procedure which many patients who have weathered it have often referred to as being so very unnecessary when the patient consulted the homeopath for an ailment like GERD for which he was given a constitutional remedy which made a bad situation even worse. This same patient reported that he had almost immediate relief within a few minutes of his using Nat Phos 6x which I had prescribed which I gave him from my stock free of charge as is my policy in treating all patients who consult me.
I do hope that I will live to see the day that the practice of Homeopathic is rationalized on the line of my Joepathy or as you coined another phrase, Clarkepathy. All I am interested is to ensure that the wool is finally removed from the eyes of the patient who consults a homeopath who I hope will use the same direct system that I advocate which I feel will enable this science to forge ahead into the 21 st Century from where it has been stagnating for the last 50 years due to the machinations of that select group of classical homeopaths who prefer to keep it under wraps in order to ensure that these same classical homeopaths will be able to continue to milk the patient with their classical case taking procedure and the subsequent constitutional remedy which will only compel the patient to seek another consultation in a few days.
And consultations do not usually come cheap !
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Countering 'misinformation' is also part of defending 'proper' homeopathy.
Clarke said '
In Hydrogenoid subjects; with morning diarrhoea Nat Sulph 3 gr.IV 4hr.'
which is applicable even today.
Mihir might have been cured with Nat.sulph as the medicine might have been his similimum,accidentally, and not because of any great prowess on behalf of the presriber.
Arnica helping diabetes and nat.phos for obesity are big myths. There are 'n' number of patients, who got aggravated, instead of getting benefit.
And for those who want to know
Clarke is an M.D. I pity those who call him non qualified homeopath.
Perhaps people are not aware that clarke has published his book,
'a clinical repertory to the dictionary of materia medica'
after the 'prescriber', and it mentions many medicines for each condition.
It has got more than 100 medicines for Asthma.In that book, the medicines that are indicated for asthma in the presriber are indicated in italics.That list contains about a dozen medicines.
Obviously, he has expanded the list from the prescriber, in his repertory.
I have this book, and hence any lies will be nailed.
If you know the history, Clarke promoted lay homeopaths to arrest the decline of homeopathy,which was on the verge of extinction then.He has published his 'prescriber' to help those lay people. It doesn't mean he followed 'this for that' therapy.
He has indicated a group of remedies for each disease, from which the appropriate one is to be selected.
It is not true that majority of the homeopaths of the indian sub continent, practice 'this for that' therapy.
Most of these people attend to acute cases, and as 'Nash' says, the remedy beckons the presriber, and hence it is easy for them to select the medicine.
They prescribe the medicine quickly on location, sensation, modalities.
If these homeopaths shout nat.sulph for asthma, Nat.phos for obesity and arnica for diabetes they would have closed shop by now.
There is a limit to spread of misinformation, and a limit to boisterous claims.
To compare ourselves with Clarke is to compare a rat with a mountain.
Now coming to the profecy of doom to classical homeopathy, it deserves nothing but a hearty laugh.
All these baseless allegations, that are poured out against classical homeopaths is a sign of frustration, and we better ignore it.
Murthy
Clarke said '
In Hydrogenoid subjects; with morning diarrhoea Nat Sulph 3 gr.IV 4hr.'
which is applicable even today.
Mihir might have been cured with Nat.sulph as the medicine might have been his similimum,accidentally, and not because of any great prowess on behalf of the presriber.
Arnica helping diabetes and nat.phos for obesity are big myths. There are 'n' number of patients, who got aggravated, instead of getting benefit.
And for those who want to know
Clarke is an M.D. I pity those who call him non qualified homeopath.
Perhaps people are not aware that clarke has published his book,
'a clinical repertory to the dictionary of materia medica'
after the 'prescriber', and it mentions many medicines for each condition.
It has got more than 100 medicines for Asthma.In that book, the medicines that are indicated for asthma in the presriber are indicated in italics.That list contains about a dozen medicines.
Obviously, he has expanded the list from the prescriber, in his repertory.
I have this book, and hence any lies will be nailed.
If you know the history, Clarke promoted lay homeopaths to arrest the decline of homeopathy,which was on the verge of extinction then.He has published his 'prescriber' to help those lay people. It doesn't mean he followed 'this for that' therapy.
He has indicated a group of remedies for each disease, from which the appropriate one is to be selected.
It is not true that majority of the homeopaths of the indian sub continent, practice 'this for that' therapy.
Most of these people attend to acute cases, and as 'Nash' says, the remedy beckons the presriber, and hence it is easy for them to select the medicine.
They prescribe the medicine quickly on location, sensation, modalities.
If these homeopaths shout nat.sulph for asthma, Nat.phos for obesity and arnica for diabetes they would have closed shop by now.
There is a limit to spread of misinformation, and a limit to boisterous claims.
To compare ourselves with Clarke is to compare a rat with a mountain.
Now coming to the profecy of doom to classical homeopathy, it deserves nothing but a hearty laugh.
All these baseless allegations, that are poured out against classical homeopaths is a sign of frustration, and we better ignore it.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Dr. John Henry Clarke, M.D.
(1853 - 1931)
Dr. Clarke was one of the most eminent homoeopaths of England. He had his famous Clinic at 8 Bolton Street, Piccadilly, located in London.
Anyone who met Clarke even once must have been impressed with the feeling of an exceptional human being, a forceful personality, a man apart. He was so busy in his studies that he had very little time to mix with others. He was a prodigious worker, as his published works testify, to say nothing of the host of private patients from all parts of the world. He was also a consulting physician to the London Homoeopathic Hospital. He was the editor of the 'Homoeopathic World' for twenty-nine years. His famous publications are as follows:
The Prescriber - A Dictionary of the New Therapeutics
...with an essay on 'How to Practice Homoeopathy.' This little book has helped thousands of lay practitioners to prescribe successfully and carry the message of homoeopathy to far off lands. It is one of the 'must-have' books for every new practitioner of Homoeopathy. Its indications of remedies are based on personal experiences of a number of reputed homoeopaths like Burnett, Hughes, Cooper, Ruddock, Neatby, Salser, etc.
The Dictionary of Practical Materia Medica
...consists of 3 volumes. In it he has given the synonyms, the source, the provers' experiences, clinical indications, temperament, keynotes and characteristics, modalities, pathological, sensational, locational and causational indications of each drug. He has also given the provings of the drug. In addition, the relationship of the drug to other remedies.
A Clinical Repertory to the Dictionary of Materia Medica
...was specifically designed by him for the study of his huge Materia Medica. The Repertory is very helpful for individualization of the simillimum from other similar remedies.
Dr. Clarke belongs to the band of provers of Nosodes, the products of disease used as homoeopathic remedies. The chief stalwarts among them were: Swan, Fincke, Clarke, Burnett, Hering, Stearns, Wheeler, Bach, Patterson, Grimmer and others.
He has the credit of introducing the following remedies to the Homoeopathic Materia Medica: Pertussin, Carcinosinum, Epihysterinum, Baccillinum Testicum, Morbillinum, Parotidinum, Scarletinum, and Scirrhinum.
Source: http://www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopathy_pro/john_henry_clar....
Murthy
Re: Congrats ABC From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-18
John Henry Clarke
Re: Congrats ABC From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-18
Clarke graduated in Edinburgh in 1877 and then studied homeopathy in Liverpool, under Berridge.
Source: http://www.homeoint.org/morrell/clarke/prefacemorrell.htm
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He is an M.D.!!
People have the nerve to call him a lay homeopath, and equate themselves with him.
What a pity.!!
Murthy
Re: Congrats ABC From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-18
and this is what Clarke says about homeopathy.
HOMOPATHY EXPLAINED
By John Henry Clarke, M. D.
What are 'LIKES' ?
The Homopathic Law says that 'Likes cure likes.' Therefore it becomes necessary to make it clear just wherein the likeness between case and remedy lies. The cases already quoted from Hahnemann's practice have given readers an idea of the points of resemblance which the prescriber has to look for, but it will be useful to look at the matter more in detail.
Not long ago it was announced in the daily press that an assistant of Edison's had lost his life through cancer set up by X-ray burns. This fact made some impression on the public mind, since at the present moment the treatment for cancer most in vogue in the profession (if the case is beyond the reach of the surgeon's knife) is by these same X-rays. 'Is not this homopathy ?' asked several inquirers ; ' X-rays have caused cancer, and they are also used to cure it.' Once wise allopathic medical man replied to the query that ' he could not see any resemblance between X-rays and cancer.' Very likely he could not ! But then Hahnemann never said that the likeness was to be sought between the physical characters of the remedy and the appearance of the disease from which a patient may be suffering. And it must be remembered that it is Hahnemann's definition of 'likes' which counts, and nobody else's. The 'likes' of homopathy is resemblances between drug-effects and disease-effects. The effect of X-rays on some persons is to cause cancer ; therefore, says Hahnemann, under favourable conditions, and in suitable persons, X-rays must prove a cure of cancer. That X-rays will not cure all cases of cancer is certain ; the suitable cases must be found out by future observation of both the causative and curative effects of the rays themselves.
The 'likeness,' then, which homopathy looks for is resemblance in effects. There are some drugs which produce such complete pictures of natural diseases that cases of poisoning have been mistaken for them. The annals of poisoning are full of instances of this kind : the medical practitioners in attendance have given certificates of death from natural disease, when later investigation has proved that the death was caused by poisoning. An instance of this kind occurred not long ago in America, when poisoning by Cyanide of Mercury was certified as death from diphtheria. Again and again cases of Belladonna poisoning have been mistaken for scarlatina. When the resemblance between a drug disease and a natural disease is so close as this, it can be inferred with absolute certainty that the drug which manifests the 'likeness' will be a remedy of wide usefulness in the treatment of cases of the disease. Accordingly Mercurius cyanatus is a remedy with homopaths of proven usefulness in diphtheria ; and Belladonna not only modifies the course and symptoms of scarlatina, but it also acts as a prophylactic against infection. If Belladonna in the 3rd centesimal potency were given to the healthy members of a household when scarlatina breaks out in it, the epidemic will not spread. Were this fact generally known among school proprietors, and enormous amount of trouble, anxiety, and loss might be saved to them. This is one small point in the immense importance of a knowledge of homopathy to the community at large.
But it is necessary to guard against the idea that because certain drugs produce a more or less perfect facsimile of certain natural diseases, that every disease must have its natural counterpart and cure. The instances in which a single drug produces such a perfect picture are rare ; and when they do occur, it must be understood that many cases of the disease will require other remedies for their cure. Homopathy has no cut and dried remedies for cut and dried disease.
Wherein, then, are we to look for the likeness ? It lies in the character of the symptoms produced by the drugs, corresponding with the character of the symptoms present in every case of disease.
Hahnemann quickly discovered that symptoms observed in providings did not all posses equal value. He noticed that when any peculiar or out-of-the-way effect came out in a proving, this had especial value in prescribing when the same symptom was met with in a case of disease.
This peculiarity need not be in the actual symptom itself, it may be in the conditions under which it manifests itself ; or it may be in some concomitant, which is found associated with it. It is in being able to discern and utilise these points the most of the art of homopathy lies, and it is on this that success in treatment largely depends.
To give one or two illustrations. A patient who suffered severely from headache complained that one for her sensations was 'as if woollen were wrapped round the head inside the skull.' Now that is a most peculiar sensation, and to cure the case it would be necessary to find a symptom somewhat like it accredited to some remedy. In my search, by the aid of repertories, I found this : 'Sensation as if a cold cloth were wrapped round the brain.' This was produced by the salt of the American spring named Sanicula. I gave it to my patient in the 1000th potency, and it rapidly removed the entire train of symptoms, which also corresponded to other effects of the remedy. In this case the sensation of there being something wrapped round the brain was the peculiar feature in which drug and disease were 'like.' And although the sensation of the wrapping material was different, the likeness was close enough to effect a cure.
In other cases the point of correspondence that it is essential to match lies in the conditions under which they symptoms appear, or are either better or worse. An octogenarian patient of mine, of very fine physique, a devotee of the morning cold bath, was troubled with a rheumatic pain in the right arm and elbow, which annoyed him very much, as it interfered with a favourite occupation, namely, driving a spirited pair of horses. Now the drugs which produce pains in the arms are legion. It was necessary, therefore, in this case to ascertain if there was anything peculiar in the time or circumstances under which the pain occurred. I elicited that the pain woke him in the night, and the only way in which he could get relief was by getting into his cold bath ; after this he could return to bed and sleep.
Now here was a marked peculiarity-relief from cold bathing. Most rheumatic conditions are worse from contact with water of any king, and especially cold water. Among the drugs which cause rheumatic pains which are relieved by cold baths there is one which stands out pre-eminent, and this is Ledum palustre. Ledum Palustre 30 was given and quickly cured the patient. (It may interest some of my readers and enable them to tack this characteristic condition to their memories, if I mention that the plant flourishes in cold water-that the marshes are its home.) I instance this case to show the usefulness in homopathy of noting peculiar conditions, all repertories to the Materia Medica must, to be complete, include in their indices a list of CONDITIONS under which symptoms are better or worse, or appear or disappear.
Another class of conditions which are of great importance to watch in prescribing a Conditions of Time. It is well known that some complaints are worse at certain hours of the day or night, and very often this condition is of as much importance from the prescriber's point of view as the symptom itself. A very common symptom in connection with many diseases is a 'sinking,' 'empty' sensation, occurring at times when the patient should not ordinarily be 'hungry. Now many remedies have caused this sensation, and among them is sulphur. But the time when the Sulphur sensation is most marked is from 11 a. m, to noon. Other medicines have the same peculiarity but not so markedly at this hour ; when a 'sinking' sensation is complained of at about 11 o'clock, Sulphur will be the most likely remedy to relieve the whole condition.
A very characteristic time of aggravation has been noticed in connection with Lycopodium, and this is from 4 p. m. to 6 p. m. or to 8 p. m. When this particular time of aggravation appears in any complaint, the likeness to the time-aggravation of Lycopodium will give a very strong point, indeed, in favour of that remedy being the right one ; and if other symptoms correspond it must be given.
Conditions of motion or rest, of heat or cold are other points of importance in the 'likeness' between remedies and cases, which the homopath has to take into careful account in marking his prescriptions.
Another point of 'likeness' lies in accompanying conditions, or 'concomitants,' as they are called. Some patients manifest certain morbid symptoms as a regular accompaniment of other complaints. For instance, a patient has neuralgia, and every time the pain comes on it is accompanied by an attack of sickness and vomiting. Now of all the remedies which cause sickness, Ipecacuanha is one of the first which will be thought of. We all know Ipecacuanha wine, and most of us have experienced its effect at one period or other of our lives. The nauseating property of Ipecacuanha dominates, in senses, all its other effects. If it causes pain, the pain is accompanied by nausea or vomiting. If it causes fever, the chill is accompanied by nausea or vomiting. Thus it comes about that any kind of illness which sets up as a concomitant effect nausea or vomiting may find in Ipecacuanha its 'likeness' or counterpart, and hence its remedy. In a similar way the sleep-causing power in Opium dominates its effects and whenever excessive drowsiness accompanies other complaints it will very probably be found that Opium will prove the remedy most like to the case.
These are a few of the points of 'likeness' with the homopath must look for if he is to make successful prescriptions. This is the 'likeness' which Hahnemann referred to when he formulated his law that 'Likes cure Likes.' To the unprofessional observer it might seem a more desirable thing to find pictures of entire diseases, and thus find a remedy for each ; but in practice that would not work so well. Hahnemann has by the art he revealed liberated by materia medica and the prescriber. Any remedy is thus available for use in a case of any disease, and the prescriber is free to select his remedy throughout the entire range.
Source: http://homeoint.org/books5/clarkehomeo/likes.htm
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Where do we stand with reference to him?
Murthy
Re: Congrats ABC From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-18
List of books by Clarke
A Birds Eye View of the Organon
A Dictionary of Domestic Medicine and Homeopathic Treatment
Catarrh, Colds and Grippe
Cholera, Diarrhea and Dysentery
Clinical Repertory
Clinical Repertory (Indian edition)
Constitutional Medicine
Dictionary of Practical Materia Medica, 3 volumes (British edition)
Dictionary of Practical Materia Medica, 3 volumes (Indian edition)
Diseases of Heart and Arteries
Grand Characteristics of Materia Medica
Gun Powder As A War Remedy
Hahnemann and Paracelsus
Homeopathy Explained
Indigestion-Its Causes and Cure
Non-Surgical Treatment of Diseases of Glands and Bones
Prescriber
Prescriber (Indian edition)
Radium As An Internal Remedy
The Revolution in Medicine
The Therapeutics of Cancer
Therapeutics of the Serpent Poisons
Tumours
Un Diccionario De Materia Médica Practica (3 volumes)
Whooping Cough
Murthy
Re: Congrats ABC From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-18
Clarke
For those who don't have time to go through all the above, this is what he says..
'But it is necessary to guard against the idea that because certain drugs produce a more or less perfect facsimile of certain natural diseases, that every disease must have its natural counterpart and cure. The instances in which a single drug produces such a perfect picture are rare ; and when they do occur, it must be understood that many cases of the disease will require other remedies for their cure. Homopathy has no cut and dried remedies for cut and dried disease.
********
I repeat
'Homopathy has no cut and dried remedies for cut and dried disease.'
I hope the message is clear to all boisterous, egoistic, self glorifier prescribers.
Murthy
(1853 - 1931)
Dr. Clarke was one of the most eminent homoeopaths of England. He had his famous Clinic at 8 Bolton Street, Piccadilly, located in London.
Anyone who met Clarke even once must have been impressed with the feeling of an exceptional human being, a forceful personality, a man apart. He was so busy in his studies that he had very little time to mix with others. He was a prodigious worker, as his published works testify, to say nothing of the host of private patients from all parts of the world. He was also a consulting physician to the London Homoeopathic Hospital. He was the editor of the 'Homoeopathic World' for twenty-nine years. His famous publications are as follows:
The Prescriber - A Dictionary of the New Therapeutics
...with an essay on 'How to Practice Homoeopathy.' This little book has helped thousands of lay practitioners to prescribe successfully and carry the message of homoeopathy to far off lands. It is one of the 'must-have' books for every new practitioner of Homoeopathy. Its indications of remedies are based on personal experiences of a number of reputed homoeopaths like Burnett, Hughes, Cooper, Ruddock, Neatby, Salser, etc.
The Dictionary of Practical Materia Medica
...consists of 3 volumes. In it he has given the synonyms, the source, the provers' experiences, clinical indications, temperament, keynotes and characteristics, modalities, pathological, sensational, locational and causational indications of each drug. He has also given the provings of the drug. In addition, the relationship of the drug to other remedies.
A Clinical Repertory to the Dictionary of Materia Medica
...was specifically designed by him for the study of his huge Materia Medica. The Repertory is very helpful for individualization of the simillimum from other similar remedies.
Dr. Clarke belongs to the band of provers of Nosodes, the products of disease used as homoeopathic remedies. The chief stalwarts among them were: Swan, Fincke, Clarke, Burnett, Hering, Stearns, Wheeler, Bach, Patterson, Grimmer and others.
He has the credit of introducing the following remedies to the Homoeopathic Materia Medica: Pertussin, Carcinosinum, Epihysterinum, Baccillinum Testicum, Morbillinum, Parotidinum, Scarletinum, and Scirrhinum.
Source: http://www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopathy_pro/john_henry_clar....
Murthy
Re: Congrats ABC From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-18
John Henry Clarke
Re: Congrats ABC From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-18
Clarke graduated in Edinburgh in 1877 and then studied homeopathy in Liverpool, under Berridge.
Source: http://www.homeoint.org/morrell/clarke/prefacemorrell.htm
********
He is an M.D.!!
People have the nerve to call him a lay homeopath, and equate themselves with him.
What a pity.!!
Murthy
Re: Congrats ABC From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-18
and this is what Clarke says about homeopathy.
HOMOPATHY EXPLAINED
By John Henry Clarke, M. D.
What are 'LIKES' ?
The Homopathic Law says that 'Likes cure likes.' Therefore it becomes necessary to make it clear just wherein the likeness between case and remedy lies. The cases already quoted from Hahnemann's practice have given readers an idea of the points of resemblance which the prescriber has to look for, but it will be useful to look at the matter more in detail.
Not long ago it was announced in the daily press that an assistant of Edison's had lost his life through cancer set up by X-ray burns. This fact made some impression on the public mind, since at the present moment the treatment for cancer most in vogue in the profession (if the case is beyond the reach of the surgeon's knife) is by these same X-rays. 'Is not this homopathy ?' asked several inquirers ; ' X-rays have caused cancer, and they are also used to cure it.' Once wise allopathic medical man replied to the query that ' he could not see any resemblance between X-rays and cancer.' Very likely he could not ! But then Hahnemann never said that the likeness was to be sought between the physical characters of the remedy and the appearance of the disease from which a patient may be suffering. And it must be remembered that it is Hahnemann's definition of 'likes' which counts, and nobody else's. The 'likes' of homopathy is resemblances between drug-effects and disease-effects. The effect of X-rays on some persons is to cause cancer ; therefore, says Hahnemann, under favourable conditions, and in suitable persons, X-rays must prove a cure of cancer. That X-rays will not cure all cases of cancer is certain ; the suitable cases must be found out by future observation of both the causative and curative effects of the rays themselves.
The 'likeness,' then, which homopathy looks for is resemblance in effects. There are some drugs which produce such complete pictures of natural diseases that cases of poisoning have been mistaken for them. The annals of poisoning are full of instances of this kind : the medical practitioners in attendance have given certificates of death from natural disease, when later investigation has proved that the death was caused by poisoning. An instance of this kind occurred not long ago in America, when poisoning by Cyanide of Mercury was certified as death from diphtheria. Again and again cases of Belladonna poisoning have been mistaken for scarlatina. When the resemblance between a drug disease and a natural disease is so close as this, it can be inferred with absolute certainty that the drug which manifests the 'likeness' will be a remedy of wide usefulness in the treatment of cases of the disease. Accordingly Mercurius cyanatus is a remedy with homopaths of proven usefulness in diphtheria ; and Belladonna not only modifies the course and symptoms of scarlatina, but it also acts as a prophylactic against infection. If Belladonna in the 3rd centesimal potency were given to the healthy members of a household when scarlatina breaks out in it, the epidemic will not spread. Were this fact generally known among school proprietors, and enormous amount of trouble, anxiety, and loss might be saved to them. This is one small point in the immense importance of a knowledge of homopathy to the community at large.
But it is necessary to guard against the idea that because certain drugs produce a more or less perfect facsimile of certain natural diseases, that every disease must have its natural counterpart and cure. The instances in which a single drug produces such a perfect picture are rare ; and when they do occur, it must be understood that many cases of the disease will require other remedies for their cure. Homopathy has no cut and dried remedies for cut and dried disease.
Wherein, then, are we to look for the likeness ? It lies in the character of the symptoms produced by the drugs, corresponding with the character of the symptoms present in every case of disease.
Hahnemann quickly discovered that symptoms observed in providings did not all posses equal value. He noticed that when any peculiar or out-of-the-way effect came out in a proving, this had especial value in prescribing when the same symptom was met with in a case of disease.
This peculiarity need not be in the actual symptom itself, it may be in the conditions under which it manifests itself ; or it may be in some concomitant, which is found associated with it. It is in being able to discern and utilise these points the most of the art of homopathy lies, and it is on this that success in treatment largely depends.
To give one or two illustrations. A patient who suffered severely from headache complained that one for her sensations was 'as if woollen were wrapped round the head inside the skull.' Now that is a most peculiar sensation, and to cure the case it would be necessary to find a symptom somewhat like it accredited to some remedy. In my search, by the aid of repertories, I found this : 'Sensation as if a cold cloth were wrapped round the brain.' This was produced by the salt of the American spring named Sanicula. I gave it to my patient in the 1000th potency, and it rapidly removed the entire train of symptoms, which also corresponded to other effects of the remedy. In this case the sensation of there being something wrapped round the brain was the peculiar feature in which drug and disease were 'like.' And although the sensation of the wrapping material was different, the likeness was close enough to effect a cure.
In other cases the point of correspondence that it is essential to match lies in the conditions under which they symptoms appear, or are either better or worse. An octogenarian patient of mine, of very fine physique, a devotee of the morning cold bath, was troubled with a rheumatic pain in the right arm and elbow, which annoyed him very much, as it interfered with a favourite occupation, namely, driving a spirited pair of horses. Now the drugs which produce pains in the arms are legion. It was necessary, therefore, in this case to ascertain if there was anything peculiar in the time or circumstances under which the pain occurred. I elicited that the pain woke him in the night, and the only way in which he could get relief was by getting into his cold bath ; after this he could return to bed and sleep.
Now here was a marked peculiarity-relief from cold bathing. Most rheumatic conditions are worse from contact with water of any king, and especially cold water. Among the drugs which cause rheumatic pains which are relieved by cold baths there is one which stands out pre-eminent, and this is Ledum palustre. Ledum Palustre 30 was given and quickly cured the patient. (It may interest some of my readers and enable them to tack this characteristic condition to their memories, if I mention that the plant flourishes in cold water-that the marshes are its home.) I instance this case to show the usefulness in homopathy of noting peculiar conditions, all repertories to the Materia Medica must, to be complete, include in their indices a list of CONDITIONS under which symptoms are better or worse, or appear or disappear.
Another class of conditions which are of great importance to watch in prescribing a Conditions of Time. It is well known that some complaints are worse at certain hours of the day or night, and very often this condition is of as much importance from the prescriber's point of view as the symptom itself. A very common symptom in connection with many diseases is a 'sinking,' 'empty' sensation, occurring at times when the patient should not ordinarily be 'hungry. Now many remedies have caused this sensation, and among them is sulphur. But the time when the Sulphur sensation is most marked is from 11 a. m, to noon. Other medicines have the same peculiarity but not so markedly at this hour ; when a 'sinking' sensation is complained of at about 11 o'clock, Sulphur will be the most likely remedy to relieve the whole condition.
A very characteristic time of aggravation has been noticed in connection with Lycopodium, and this is from 4 p. m. to 6 p. m. or to 8 p. m. When this particular time of aggravation appears in any complaint, the likeness to the time-aggravation of Lycopodium will give a very strong point, indeed, in favour of that remedy being the right one ; and if other symptoms correspond it must be given.
Conditions of motion or rest, of heat or cold are other points of importance in the 'likeness' between remedies and cases, which the homopath has to take into careful account in marking his prescriptions.
Another point of 'likeness' lies in accompanying conditions, or 'concomitants,' as they are called. Some patients manifest certain morbid symptoms as a regular accompaniment of other complaints. For instance, a patient has neuralgia, and every time the pain comes on it is accompanied by an attack of sickness and vomiting. Now of all the remedies which cause sickness, Ipecacuanha is one of the first which will be thought of. We all know Ipecacuanha wine, and most of us have experienced its effect at one period or other of our lives. The nauseating property of Ipecacuanha dominates, in senses, all its other effects. If it causes pain, the pain is accompanied by nausea or vomiting. If it causes fever, the chill is accompanied by nausea or vomiting. Thus it comes about that any kind of illness which sets up as a concomitant effect nausea or vomiting may find in Ipecacuanha its 'likeness' or counterpart, and hence its remedy. In a similar way the sleep-causing power in Opium dominates its effects and whenever excessive drowsiness accompanies other complaints it will very probably be found that Opium will prove the remedy most like to the case.
These are a few of the points of 'likeness' with the homopath must look for if he is to make successful prescriptions. This is the 'likeness' which Hahnemann referred to when he formulated his law that 'Likes cure Likes.' To the unprofessional observer it might seem a more desirable thing to find pictures of entire diseases, and thus find a remedy for each ; but in practice that would not work so well. Hahnemann has by the art he revealed liberated by materia medica and the prescriber. Any remedy is thus available for use in a case of any disease, and the prescriber is free to select his remedy throughout the entire range.
Source: http://homeoint.org/books5/clarkehomeo/likes.htm
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Where do we stand with reference to him?
Murthy
Re: Congrats ABC From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-18
List of books by Clarke
A Birds Eye View of the Organon
A Dictionary of Domestic Medicine and Homeopathic Treatment
Catarrh, Colds and Grippe
Cholera, Diarrhea and Dysentery
Clinical Repertory
Clinical Repertory (Indian edition)
Constitutional Medicine
Dictionary of Practical Materia Medica, 3 volumes (British edition)
Dictionary of Practical Materia Medica, 3 volumes (Indian edition)
Diseases of Heart and Arteries
Grand Characteristics of Materia Medica
Gun Powder As A War Remedy
Hahnemann and Paracelsus
Homeopathy Explained
Indigestion-Its Causes and Cure
Non-Surgical Treatment of Diseases of Glands and Bones
Prescriber
Prescriber (Indian edition)
Radium As An Internal Remedy
The Revolution in Medicine
The Therapeutics of Cancer
Therapeutics of the Serpent Poisons
Tumours
Un Diccionario De Materia Médica Practica (3 volumes)
Whooping Cough
Murthy
Re: Congrats ABC From gavinimurthy on 2006-11-18
Clarke
For those who don't have time to go through all the above, this is what he says..
'But it is necessary to guard against the idea that because certain drugs produce a more or less perfect facsimile of certain natural diseases, that every disease must have its natural counterpart and cure. The instances in which a single drug produces such a perfect picture are rare ; and when they do occur, it must be understood that many cases of the disease will require other remedies for their cure. Homopathy has no cut and dried remedies for cut and dried disease.
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I repeat
'Homopathy has no cut and dried remedies for cut and dried disease.'
I hope the message is clear to all boisterous, egoistic, self glorifier prescribers.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
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