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Exactly, you jumped on me after wrongly reading my post, and formulating your own definition thereof, BEFORE I even mentioned my opinions on classical Homoeopathy, I believe that's what I just said above.

And I have no reason to 'fool myself' about anything, out of the thousands of cases I have treated, I have only one which refuses to respond...so far, and it is YOUR methods which carry limitations, not ours, do not speak for classical Homoeopathy, because this is not what you practice.

Dear Simon, everything indicates that you are an Arsenum Album constituion.

Dear Mr Varma.

I have made no harsh comments, only stated the truth, and I am aware of basic forum rules when it comes to giving medical advice. I have also already fully commented on the points raised above elsewhere(which you STILL continue to misquote and apply your own meaning to, as the above was NOT what was suggested to the patient at all), and have no desire or intention to do so again. As I said, I am here to promote true Homoeopathy, and help people with their ailments, not to indulge in meaningless and personal banter with those who cannot even read a simple post properley, and who continually apply there own meanings thereto.

As for not being sure of remedies over the internet, this is very true, but patients have a lot less to fear from someone recommending single, well indicated remedies, after a full case taking, than from those who just spew out remedy suggestions, frequently 2 or 3 at a time to be taken simultaneously, and without looking into the case in the slightest, such as you do yourself.

I have no desire to continue this conversation, and for the record, and to save further confusion, THIS is me being harsh ;)


-Jacob.

No one system is perfect. All medical systems are needed for the benefit of all.

English medicine system also has wonders. One must not ignore anything good.

I personally do not risk using homeopathy as an emergency medicine.

Dear Kuldeep, I would agree to an extent. In cases which are incurable by Homoeopathic means (which in my personal experience are actually quite rare), I will use Traditional Chinese Medicine, sometimes in conjunction with Flower Essences Therapy, both of which I have also studied. Also, like you, I will not risk the life of a patient thumbing through a repertory in emergency situations. I will ALSO send a patient directly to the allopath if they have a potentially fatal pathogenic infection, and then only treat them for any after effects once such an infection has been brought under control.

But the latter examples at least, are due to my own lack of knowledge in how to treat emergency situations, as I have simply had no experience in this field, my own sphere of expertize being miasmatic disease. However, there ARE Homoeopaths who I have personally witnessed in ER rooms who can prescribe remedies for emergency situations as easily and deftly as most of us can prescribe remedies in regular situations, so this is not due to the shortcomings of Homoeopathy, it is due to our own.

And this is my general point, one can only draw such a line defining such limitations based on our own abilities, and it therefore follows, quite wrongly of course, that Homoeopaths who are not as experienced or able to prescribe as well as some of the rest of us, will necessarily draw this line at a much earlier point. What is a limitation to some of us, is a challenge to the rest of us, or put more simply, a bad workman always blames his tools...

Hi Kuldeep,

No - Phosphorous. I had a go at your constitutional Remedy Finder, by the way and it agreed, so well done there.

Best Wishes,
Simon

Constituional Remedy Finder there is for amusement only. I doubt if one can find consttuional remedy by a software. Once must know a person.

Seems like you are a very organized person.

I made the finding: when you removed a post but still retained it, I concluded Arsenum Album and I can bet my life on it.

Yes Phosphorous comes second, don't ignore that too. Phosphorous is a friend of all.


Phosphorus

(He wins everybody’s heart)

1. Affectionate
2. Returns affection
3. Mildness
4. Wants to attract people
5. Happy from his life.

Opium
Sharp ears, sees thought ears. Perception by ears and anticipates result. Watchful for any sound

Phosphorus
Sharp eyes, listens through eyes. Perception by eyes and anticipates result. Watchful for every gesture.

Lycopodium & Platina Gets the job done by bullying.

Phosphorus Gets the job done by love and affection.


Affectionate + Hypocrisy + Adulterous + Desires to be in lime light = Phosphorous
Fears to be alone
Fears dark
Fears insects and bugs


Fears thundershowers (Shuts windows and doors and puts a cloth on the eyes)

Fears death


For example I delete everything permanently, never keep a thing in mind, never keep an older email in my folder, never keep a book already read or a letter already read or anything....

And who was the Hepar Sulph for Mr Varma, hmm?

Hepar sulphur:

This remedy belongs to patients that are called delicate, that are oversensitive to impressions. The mind takes part in this oversensitiveness and manifests itself by a state of extreme irritability.
Every little thing that disturbs the patient makes him intensely angry, abusive and impulsive. The impulses will overwhelm him and make him wish to kill his best friend in an instant. Impulses also that are without cause sometimes crop out in Hepar.


A man may have a sudden impulse to stab his friend. A barber has an impulse to cut the throat of his patron while in the chair. Mothers may have an impulse to throw the child into the fire or an impulse to set herself on fire; an impulse to do violence and to destroy. These symptoms increase to insanity and then the impulses are often carried out. It becomes a mania to set fire to things.
The patient is quarrelsome, hard to get along with; nothing pleases; everybody disturbs oversensitiveness to persons, to people and to places.

He desires a constant change of persons and things and surroundings and each new surrounding or person or thing again displeases and makes him irritated. With this irritability of temper and physical irritability there is a tendency to suppuration in parts.

The trouble with self prescribing with any software, particular regarding mental symptoms, is that one can easily answer as the person one wants to be rather than the person one is.

Dear Kuldeep.

A very good description of Hepar Sulph, for the most part anyway. Was this your own work, or text from a Materia Medica?

I was though, asking mister Varma up there, for whom he was recommending the remedy, as this was rather...'ambiguous'.

Best wishes.


-Jacob.

Dear friends

I have been visiting here, though not very regularly.

It is true that ABC has become very popular,by it's policy of allowing remedy prescriptions,many times even on scant information, which by any means won't be enough for any serious analysis.

I tried to question some of those prescriptions, but it is too much of a work, and doesn't benefit the homeopathic comunity in general.

I still hold the view that it is not correct to expose the patients to reckless prescribing.

The patient may land into serious trouble by taking a prescription made without proper thinking on the part of the prescriber.

Even if 5% of them suffer, because of this, whom shall we hold responsible?

There is a note at the bottom, but, despite that, patients may believe they are being treated by a professional and hence no risk.

So,what is the way out?

One possibility is to have a team of moderators,with authority to question the prescriptions, and with authority to delete them if they were given without proper analysis.

Give it a serious thought.

Murthy

Is this the Murthy I know by any chance?

Either way, well said!
-Applaudes-


-Jacob.

Dear Hahnemania

I have been reading your posts with great interest, and I have the following questions for you

Are you a classical homeopath

In your experience have you ever completely cured a patient with diabetes and thyroid malfunction (seperate diseases)

I am a chronic hypothyroid patient(since 20 years), and it is probably genetic (my mother too)

Is there a complete cure for me?

Please respond with utmost sincerity

regards

sazim

Dear Sazim.

I am indeed a classical Homoeopath.

I have sucessfully cured many cases of Thyroid malfunction, and one or two of diabetes (which for personal reasons I don't really like to take on unless I have to). I would only ever treat a patient with the latter under direct communication with their alopathic physician though, and certainly not online, as this condition can be very dangerous to treat, and constant monitoring of insulin levels must be carried out as a matter of course.

But yes, both conditions can be cured by Homoeopathy, and thyroid complaints, in my experience, are actually pretty easy.

I would recommend you try to find a good classical Homoeopath in your area, who has links with an allopathic physician, or indeed an allopathic Doctor who also practices classical Homoeopathy.

Best wishes.


-Jacob.

Hi Murthy,

This is a forum, nothing more. It is a place where views are exchanged (often passionately) but it is not a homeopath, and it is not a reference book.

If we were to monitor posts to ensure that every one is correct, factual and properly researched, we would be taking on a massive amount of work, and would be opening ourselves up to litigation if we declare that we do that, and fail in it. Apart from which, where would we draw the line? Should a suggestion of a combination remedy be permitted? Wherever we draw the line, we would be pushing one point of view in cases where there may be other approaches.

The ABC site started around the Remedy Finder, which asks for a lot of information. The forum was intended to clarify people's understanding of homeopathy, and to allow sufferers of a particular disease to meet and share information on what worked for them.

Best Wishes,
Simon

Dear Moderator, hello.

Maybe now would be a good time to approach you, seeing that I now seem to have gotten everyone's attention.

Firstly, let me state quite categorically, I am not here to start trouble.

I signed up for this forum because in the 6 short months or so in which I have actually brought part of my practice, and my comittment to Homoeopathy online, I have simply become tired of people coming to me, both patient and Homoeopath alike, asking why such advice as given here, is actually allowed, and why something isn't done about it. MUCH more importantly than this though, I have simply lost count of the amount of patients who have approached me privately on every other forum asking me to help them sort out the mess which following such advice has left them in, and I know from conversations with other Homoeopaths who work online, the same is also true for them.

I do understand that people should be free to express their own opinions on the subject (and indeed on any subject), and to give advice as they see fit, but where do you draw the line on such freedom when these things are actually causing people harm. We are talking about peoples lives here, and you must know (I am presuming you are a Homoeopath yourself)that wrong prescriptions/inimcal remedies/bad prescribing can cause IMMENSE suffering to a patient, which can go on for many years, long after such advice is given, and such individuals have stopped posting here.

You say the site was intended to clarify people's understanding of Homoeopathy, but how can this be the case when most of the people who post here do not even stick to the founding principles, in any respect whatsoever?

You ask some questions about the nature of such monitoring, and of course the level of which you maintain on the site is at you own discretion, but please be aware that almost every other Homoeopathy forum on the internet DOES monitor posts to ensure at least the basic principles are being maintained.

We (classically trained Homoeopaths) are not asking for strict rules, or that you scrutinize every post that is made here, but when the MAJORITY of posts that ARE made, directly contravene every founding principle of Homoeopathy there is, and such practices are obviously far removed from the original concept, AND the fact that this is actully causing people harm, something is most definitely, and drastically wrong.

All we ask is that there are at least SOME basic rules here, to ensure that practices which we KNOW are detrimental to a patient, and are well documented as such from 200 years of clinical experience, are not allowed to be promoted.
Such things as practitioners recommending two inimical remedies at the same time for example (which I have personally witnessed here), giving miasmatic nosodes (which are INCREDIBLY deep acting remedies) high, and in long term daily dosages, people randomly recommending two or more remedies at a time without even asking the patient any questions(!), to give but three examples. All these things are questioned and responded to by practically every other Homoeopathic forum on the internet, and they should be here, also.

Ideally of course (as is also the case on the MAJORITY of other forums), yes, even the promotion of combination remedies, or more than one remedy at a time, but I do understand (even though these are basic principles any properley trained Hommoeopath should know)that such things are still very much open to debate, especially by the Indian faction of our profession.

We are not asking you turn this into a heavily 'policed' forum, where people's ideas are restricted and jumped upon, that would of course be extreme, just that there is at least SOME moderation, in the interests of the well being of those seeking and taking advice here, which just isn't the case at the moment.

Regards.


-Jacob C. Scott.

Hahnemania,

You say:
' I have simply lost count of the amount of patients who have approached me privately on every other forum asking me to help them sort out the mess which following such advice has left them in'

With the patients' permission, please forward these emails to me (contact [at] abchomeopathy.com ), preferably with any information you can about who prescribed the remedy(s) in question.

We'll look at tagging posts (i.e. 'warning, this person's reply seems to be placed without complete information')

Thanks,
Simon

Dear Simon, thankyou for the response.

I no longer have access to the individual cases unfortunately, as most of these were through other forums via PM, and I do not have log in accounts with these anymore. I will though forward any future cases, and encourage others to do the same.

Thankyou also for your promise of looking into the tagging idea, which as I am sure everyone here who has been voicing their opinions on this subject would agree, is most definitely a step in the right direction, as hopefully we all have the best interest of those seeking help online afterall.

Regards, and wishing you continued sucess with your forum,

-Jacob.

To Murthy,

Good to see you back even though so very rarely on the ABC, unlike in the past when you were present almost on a daily basis.

I note your reservations on the manner that homeopaths like prescribe on the ABC which you would not permit on your Hpathy forum. I have no qualms for your being hypersensitive to unqualified persons like me helping on your forum but you will see that on the ABC which I believe is the most popular Homeopathic forum in the world closely followed by Praveen Wadhwa's new forum Homeopathy and More to which I too contribute, the band of prescribers here, both qualified and unqualified have been able to help patients, some of whom have been suffering untold hardships at the hands of their qualified classical homeopaths who in some cases have been fleecing them under the guise of using their skills in practicing classical homeopathy. In one case the patient visited the homeopath on a regular weekly basis and when she posted her case on the forum, I was able to help this patient who was an advanced case of GERD with Nat Phos 6x which she at first took very suspiciously and then discovered that with a regular dose of this remedy her condition was stabilized and her life was changed after many years of suffering under her classical homeopath.

The point I would like you to consider is that it is not the use of the classical or the non-classical method in prescribing that is relevant. It is more the ability of the prescriber to identify the disease and advise the remedy to help the patient ASAP. You and I have had long arguments in the past about the pros and cons of my non classical method of prescribing but facts are stubborn and you can click on my name and read the almost 4500 posts that I have made since I joined the ABC a year before you did in 2003. You can read the record of the success that I have had in helping patients who posted on this forum in the hope of being helped by someone which I have gladly done with some success.

I have also endeavoured to share my discoveries with the use of remedies for ailments not listed in the classical homeopathic texts with those who would like to use them and it is my hope that they too would consider using my own non classical method of treatment of patients some of which have resulted in some amazing cures which I must admit, even I wonder at sometimes.

I am aware that my non conformist attitude has drawn the ire of the classical homeopaths but this is unfortunate as in almost all cases where these classical types have criticized me, and in some cases even derided me for reasons best known to them, I have proved to the patient and to these critics, that my own method of diagnosis and treatment which even though it deviates from your classical method, still delivers the goods and the patient is cured.

I have been again criticized in my use of the word CURE. As you know a complete cure of an aliment like Asthma, Diabetes or Eczema is difficult but not impossible as I have many patients who were chronic suffers from at least Asthma and Diabetes who now do not use any remedies and of course none of the drugs that they were originally using till they discovered that help was at hand from Homeopathy under my therapy. I do abhor the dire predictions of gloom that at least one classical homeopath is wont to spread but I still have to encounter the fulfillment of his prophesy in all my past years of practice. I must add for the benefit of those who read this post that Homeopathy to me is only a hobby as it is to you who I am aware are an engineer to whom Homeopathy is in common with me, a hobby albeit a classical hobby.

I note that you state in common with other classically oriented homeopaths that even if 5% of the patients suffer, who will be held responsible. My own record of helping patients on the ABC is a case in point as apart from just one patient whom I was treating for fistula and was responded nicely to the therapy when she presented after some time with a breast lump which may or may not owe its origin to the Silicea. I naturally advised her to stop the Silicea but advised her to take the Arnica which with the Nat Phos was helping her as it has helped many others who have posted on the Fistula thread on the ABC. This case can be read on the Fistula thread.

I have no qualms with the classical case taking method of treatment which I too use whenever I am dealing with a case with which I am not familiar when I use my Radar 9.2 software to help with the case. However in the case of ailments which I have treated before, I do not hesitate to use my own method of diagnosis and treatment which has now been classified by some members as 'Joepathy' and you have only to read the amazing record of successful cures to appreciate that there is indeed something worthy of attention by the classical fraternity of my own non conformist method of healing.

I have always maintained the opinion that the patient's interest comes first in accordance with Hahnemann's first Aphorism and it is indeed a matter of concern to me and to many other classical homeopaths who have been following the controversy that I seem to have created on your Hpathy forum and also on the ABC forum that they too cannot understand the reason for this unreasonable criticism of my adherence to my own direct method of treatment of the ailment without the usual case taking method specified in classical homeopathy, especially since I seem to have a record of success in the treating of ailments posted by members on the ABC which is far above the rate of success that the classically trained homeopaths can boast of.

It is a pity that I have to spend so much of my time in defending my method of treatment as I could use this time in helping other members who expect me to help them both on the forums and also by email.

I do hope that you will visit the ABC more often as it is not impossible that I may even succeed in persuading you, a diehard classical homeopath, to subscribe to my own non classical 'Joepathy' which has so far worked nicely and has helped hundreds, perhaps thousands of patients.

Joe

Dear Hahnemania

Thanks for your response, are you willing to take my case, if yes, I can start a new thread, or however you advised.

I was taking Eltroxin for my hypothroid (Hashimoto syndrome),which brought back the TSH,T3 and T4 level back to normal (in allopathic science), but those were the worst days of my life. I have been able to stop my allopathic medicine, thanks to a homeopath, and i have been under his treatment for the last 2 years, my conditions have improved, but i am not 100% cured. Most of the times his medicine works initially, and as the time goes on, the effect wears off, and i am back to square one.

Please is there a cure for hypothyroid male patients in homeopathy (cause there isnt any in allopathy and ayurvedic)

regards

sazim