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MILK - Why is it not absorbable in the human body ?
MILK - Why is it not absorbable in the human body ?The above article by NESHA-INDIA, is an explanation to a question by "WINCGirl", which she asked in http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/52545/ dated 24 February, 2006.
For further understanding, also read another article by NESHA-INDIA, titled as " CALCIUM - Why is it not absorbable in the human body " under the following link :
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/40731
I REQUEST and invite all forum members ( including college qualified, non-college self-qualified, Non-Classical and Classical Homeopaths, specially - Biologists and Chemistry'logists ), to discuss and give in their, biased or unbiased, view point on this topic.
This is not a fiction novel material. BUT go ahead and read it a one go and enjoy the thrill of drinking Animal Milk.
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ANIMAL MILK IS NON-VEGETARIAN - AN END PRODUCT OF AN ANIMAL and not a product of organic vegetable kingdom. Consuming Animal milk is like consuming the animal. (So called Vegetarians ... Please note)
IT is apparently the residual evolve'itionery ANIMAL INSTINCT URGE that's left in the Human gene, that urges or compels it to go ahead grabbing or jostling for Animal protien. Hence the constant human urge or desire or CRAVING to feed on Animal protien ( Milk, Meat ... )
ANIMAL Milk contains a certain amount of Calcium . This calcium is never absorbed by our intestines thru digestion and ultimately turns into toxins, thereby damaging our body and brain cells. The scientific medical reason :
Animal milk is a type of mucous secreted by the glands of the animal when the brain detects expulsion of matured fetus thru the uterus (Womb).
(Mucous = spit type phlegm - cough)
The brain then directs the mucous secretion procedure which contains the buff-hazy colored body water (body water is in the body's blood & blood contains calcium withdrawn from the bones - i.e. the skeleton) and a host of other supporting chemicals (calcium, casein, lactose - sugar etc.)
The calcium in milk is bound up in a protein called CASEIN. (Casein is a protective Gluey coating around the calcium molecular cell, for protection and to avoid the calcium to form a stony lump in the mothers breast) (Remember Kidney Stones, hard brittle, jagged ends = crystallized Calcium deposits). Casein contains Phosphorus and Sulphur, insoluble in water but soluble in alkalis.
Rennin or rennet (chymosin) an enzyme present in gastric juice, and prepared from the fourth stomach of the murdered-killed calf. It coagulates milk by converting caseinogen into casein. Rennin is used for cheesemaking by its action of curdling milk.
This Casein and lactose are broken down in our body by the enzymes called RENNIN and LACTASE respectively, ultimately converting it into absorbable Glucose. Production of both these enzymes are stopped by the brain when it detects formation of other digestive juices in the child's intestine, which normally is around between 30-40 months of age, i.e. due to various conditions and living factors like the environment, atmosphere, water quality and the consumption of other food articles.
NOW, if the Calcium (bound-encased in Animal Milk protien called CASEIN), is to be absorbed in human, it will require an enzyme called LACTASE, which is no longer produced in humans after a certain age.
So :
- NO lactase means NO breakdown of LACTOSE in the Animal Milk
- NO lactase means NO breakdown of CASEIN in the Animal Milk
- CALCIUM is encased inside the CASEIN gluey coating.
- NO breakdown of CASEIN means NO free CALCIUM for digestion
- NO digestion of Animal Milk means NO free CALCIUM for absorbtion
- NO absorbtion means NO assimilation
THEN WHAT HAPPENS :
Casein (the gluey substance in milk) remains undigested in our body where it sticks to the mucous membrane (wall) of the intestines. The intestines react by secreting more mucous (digestive juices) to wash it off. Soon it begins to degenerate and putrefy due to the bacteria feeding on it. This putrid matter is then pushed around in the body - never able to leave and causing more and more mucous to be produced which the body endeavors to throw out through its digestive system.
There is 300 times MORE casein in animal's milk than in human milk because of animal food habits. A human consumes more of Pulses, Cereals, Oil and Spices - heated and cooked, whereas the animal is usually fed on organic Grass and other types of leftover of processed pulses and cereals. Leftover of processed Seeds of cotton, mustard, croton, groundnut etc... are caked and fed to the animals. Animals have the capacity to digest these foods due to various extra digestive juices produced by their digestive system and also due to the unique four part stomach system of the animal. Remember Cows and Buffalo ruminate i.e. chew and digest food at their own leisure. You can't do it.
The chemical composition of Animal Milk is given underneath. Besides Calcium, milk contains Phosphorus. One Part of Phosphorus dissolves 16 parts of Calcium. By drinking more Animal Milk, more amount of Animal Phosphorus (This non-organic Phosphorus is not within a protective gluey coating as Animal Calcium is, as described earlier, above) is consumed and the high phosphorus content in milk upsets the delicate balance which the blood maintains between phosphorus and calcium. Due to the high extra phosphorus content, the blood is forced to withdraw calcium from healthy bones (usually spine - skeleton - the Reserve Bank) thereby causing calcium deficiency and ultimately osteoporosis (weak brittle bones - i.e. persistent back pains, yellow decaying teeth and bone joint swellings)
The excess calcium so carried by the blood is then deposited in soft tissues causing tumors, cataracts, kidney and gall stones, spurs and bony growths, spondylitis, sciatica, thyroid, prostate, atherosclerosis (deposits in arteries) ..... By stopping animal milk, you get relief from tonsillitis, bronchitis, sinusitis, ear infections, asthma, migraine, colitis, skin problems like black heads, pimples, warts, moles, wrinkling .....
What is the first thing the body does when the milk is ingested? The body produces acidic enzymes in order to curdle the milk so that it can stay longer in the stomach for digestion. So how do ulcer patients expect to get well with milk when its direct action is to instantly produce more acid in the body? Ignorant people believe that "Cold Milk" must be taken for heart burn or acidity or for sour eructations. WHY !?!?! Why cold milk? Why not hot milk? Use uncommon sense - because it is the "cold" that is working to give you temporary relief - not the milk. Cold water + half lemon juice is the best guaranteed bet.
Animal Milk proteins are directly linked and related to mental/psycic problems, like Autism, Schizophrenia, Epilepsy.
The Medical scientific reason : Improper breakdown of casein, a protein found in Animal milk and milk products. Humans don't digest casein properly, which leads to accumulation of substances called exorphins, which infiltrate the brain and cause hallucinations and other emotional disturbances like depression, aggressiveness, anxiety ......
INCIDENTALLY, No where in the entire Ayurveda, the consumption of Animal Milk and its products are suggested or advocated, except for only occasional Medicinal purposes. Drinking milk, as a HOLISTIC FOOD, is only a mis-understood age old grand-family tradition.
CONSIDER THIS TOO :
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- There is a vast difference in the G.I.Tract ANATOMY STRUCTURE in Humans & in Animals.
- Also, there is very vast difference in the way Human G.I.Tract FUNCTION's and the Animal G.I.Tract FUNCTION's (brief understanding in : http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/40731/.
- The process of DIGESTING & ABSORBING and ASSIMILATING foods by animals and humans is very very much different.
- The acid structure, enzymes, hormones required for the above process is totally different in Animals and Humans.
- DIGESTING & ABSORBING and ASSIMILATING foods is NOT one and the same process. All are sequentially different functions done for sequentially different reasons by the body.
2. Nesha-India, says that SWINDLING (or even sharing) out the Animal body fluids (Milk) which serves as a food to the animals child, is IN-HUMAN, and against the rules of nature.
THE RULES OF NATURE, "BY DEFAULT", PROVIDES EACH LIVING CREATURE WITH APPROPRIATE FOODS :
- Herbiv'orous animals meat for the Carniv'orous animals
- Greens for the Herbivorous animals
- Algae, Fungi, Larvae .... for the Fish kingdom
- seeds, worms, insects ... for the bird kingdom
- Greens, Grains, Seeds, Tubers .... for the Human kingdom
... so on.
+ Try getting the Carniv'orous animals to feed on Greens, Grains, Seeds, Tubers
+ Again, as a routine, try getting the Herbivorous to feed on Carniv'orous animals
+ ATLEAST TRY ......
3. Try to swindle out the HUMAN mothers milk (for commercial exploitation) for another human being or for an animals child.
- This SHOULD be an HUMAN act
- Will anybody do it.
- If NO, Why NO
- The Human mother is wild'ly protective about her own Milk for her own Child. That's her emotion & fierce-ful possiveness. She won't even allow her EXCESS milk to be used for drinking or making Tea or Coffee for her own other children or husband ....
4. EVER wonder :
- how much milk the child (animal or human) requires for its optimum growth at that age.
- how many feeds per day the child requires (animal or human) and how quickly.
- why milk is produced
- why milk is stopped after certain period
- could it because the G.I.Tract has lost the capacity to digest milk
- is DIGESTING & ABSORBING and ASSIMILATING foods one and the same process
- why children, feel nauseatingly refuse milk
- why certain African females can produce milk upto 60 odd months for its child.
- what does human milk constitue of
- what does the animal milk biologically & chemically constitue of (any animal)
- why human did WANT to drink milk (as a food) in the first place
- ever wonder why the protein (sugar component) in grains... can be converted to alcohol
- ever wondered why the animal protein is not used for alcohol conversion
- ever wonder why animal blood is not used in human for blood transfusion.
- ever wonder as to why we wonder .....
5. A free grazing Goat produces less than 1000 ml of body fluids (Milk), per day, which Nature intended for the Goat's Kid, for optimal FAST growth, since the Goat's Kid is on its feet in less than 3 hours (unlike humans). This fast growth is intended by nature for its own self preservation. If the Goats (any animal) Milk is SWINDLED out for human use, at the cost of the Animals child, morally it is very very bad and totally inhuman.
6. People, HAVE TO HAVE a justification for Drinking Animal Milk. So they created one ;
- saying it is good for this.. and good for that.
- cows milk is good for this .... & it is very much Holistic (for the cow or the human mind ?)
- goats milk is good for this ....because it eats so and so herbs in the mountains
- that it is very light and easily digestible (the Rat or the Dog's flesh too is digestible)
- that Animal's milk contains calcium, vitamins .... (the organic / vegetable kingdom provides "n" numbers of 1000% superior fully digestable, absorbable & assimilable calcium, proteins, minerals and vitamins. The range is of vegetable kingdom food is unexhaustive)
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ALTERNATIVEs to ANIMAL MILK, which is digestable, absorbable and assimilable, with the least amount of allergen or imbalances and is totally NATURAL & ORGANIC.
* SOYA BEAN MILK *
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TYPE I : PROCEDURE
* Get whole Soyabeans seeds grounded (very fine - literaly 100 mesh size)
* Take one One part of Soyabean flour and Nine part of Water.
* Mix thoroughly till fully dissolved.
* Heat till Boiling point, stirring in-between.
TYPE II : PROCEDURE
1. Soak 25 soyabeans for minimum of 24 hours, changing water every 8 hours.
2. Remove Skin. Then use blender jar of your mixer/grinder and put above 25 soyabeans only (no water) & run mixer/grinder for minimum 60 seconds.
3. After that add one glass 250 ml. of hot/warm water to the above paste along with other desired additives (as described below) and run the mixer/grinder again for minimum 60 seconds.
Natural and Organic Milk made from Soyabean is ready for consumption.
APPROX. COMPOSITION : SOYABEAN ANIMAL MILK
Calories 264 68
Protein 42.5 grams 3.5 grams
Fat 6.5 grams 3.9 grams
Carbohydrates 37.2 grams 4.9 grams
Fibre 2.6 grams 0.0
Calcium 244 mg 118 mg
Phosphorus 610 mg 93 mg
Iron 13.0 mg 0.1 mg
Sodium 1 mg 50 mg
Potassium 1700 mg 140 mg
Vitamin A 110 I.U. 160 I.U
Vitamin B1 0.82 mg 0.04 mg
Vitamin B2 0.34 mg 0.17 mg
Nicotinic Acid 2.6 mg 0.1 mg
Vitamin C 0.0 mg 1 mg
Total calories 232 (88 Grams) 166 (244 grams)
Prepare Curd, Lassi, Paneer etc... as usual, as if preparing from Animal Milk. Soya-bean Milk has a particular smell and flavor. To camouflage the unknown flavor and smell or get used to it, you may add any of these :
Natural Additives for Taste : Kesar, Cardamom (ilachi), Sugar, Rose water, Keveda Water, Jai-pFhall (nut-meg) powder, Black pepper powder, Badam (Almond) powder, Brahmi leaf powder, Arabic Dates, natural flavours / syrups, .......
The Therapeutic and Nurtitional composition of Animal products (including Milk & Milk products) is absolutely useless when in comparison with Organic Vegetable products.
AGAIN CONSIDER THIS ... : IT is apparently the residual evolve'itionery ANIMAL INSTINCT URGE that's left in the Human gene, that urges or compels it to go ahead grabbing or jostling for Animal protien. Hence the constant human urge or desire or CRAVING to feed on Animal protien.
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
Nesha-India on 2006-02-26
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
approx. composition :....soyabean........ animal milk
calories........................................264...........................68
protein..........................................42.5 grams.............3.5 grams
fat..................................................6.5 grams................3.9 grams
carbohydrates...........................37.2 grams.............4.9 grams
fibre...............................................2.6 grams...............0.0
calcium.........................................244 mg....................118 mg
phosphorus.................................610 mg....................93 mg
iron..................................................13.0 mg...................0.1 mg
sodium..........................................1 mg.........................50 mg
potassium.....................................1700 mg.................140 mg
vitamin a........................................110 i.u.....................160 i.u
vitamin b1......................................0.82 mg...................0.04 mg
vitamin b2......................................0.34 mg...................0.17 mg
nicotinic acid................................2.6 mg......................0.1 mg
vitamin c.........................................0.0 mg.......................1 mg
total calories................................232 (88 grams).......166 (244 grams)
calories........................................264...........................68
protein..........................................42.5 grams.............3.5 grams
fat..................................................6.5 grams................3.9 grams
carbohydrates...........................37.2 grams.............4.9 grams
fibre...............................................2.6 grams...............0.0
calcium.........................................244 mg....................118 mg
phosphorus.................................610 mg....................93 mg
iron..................................................13.0 mg...................0.1 mg
sodium..........................................1 mg.........................50 mg
potassium.....................................1700 mg.................140 mg
vitamin a........................................110 i.u.....................160 i.u
vitamin b1......................................0.82 mg...................0.04 mg
vitamin b2......................................0.34 mg...................0.17 mg
nicotinic acid................................2.6 mg......................0.1 mg
vitamin c.........................................0.0 mg.......................1 mg
total calories................................232 (88 grams).......166 (244 grams)
Nesha-India last decade
I am recently reading books written by Hulda Clark.
I am convinced through her writings that the reason people are allergic/can't digest/can't assimilate/can't absorb, not because of the FOOD itself, but the parasites that food can bring with it.
I urge all of you who like stepping out of the box to read her writings.
I agree that soy can be good for you, but not in the form of milk or even tofu.
Soy in it's ancient fermented states, definitely (tempeh, miso, shoyu)
Soybeans have potent trypsin inhibitors which block the action of enzymes needed for protein digestion. This protein is extremely resistant to reduction methods. Also hemagglutin that cause lumpy red blood cells and organic acids (phytate)that BLOCKS the uptake of calcium and other important vitamins and minerals. Unfermented soy destroys zinc. You need zinc is good brain, nervous, and immune food.
Too much soy causes rickets, low growth, and lower IQ.
Allergies are just as common in soy as they are milk.
The only way one should eat soy is the fermented way, which does benefit the body.
No people ever ate soybeans as a food (only used for nitrogen in crop rotation) until they learned how to ferment. Fermenting reduces phytate, allowing for calcium absorbtion.
Peace,
WNCGirl
I am convinced through her writings that the reason people are allergic/can't digest/can't assimilate/can't absorb, not because of the FOOD itself, but the parasites that food can bring with it.
I urge all of you who like stepping out of the box to read her writings.
I agree that soy can be good for you, but not in the form of milk or even tofu.
Soy in it's ancient fermented states, definitely (tempeh, miso, shoyu)
Soybeans have potent trypsin inhibitors which block the action of enzymes needed for protein digestion. This protein is extremely resistant to reduction methods. Also hemagglutin that cause lumpy red blood cells and organic acids (phytate)that BLOCKS the uptake of calcium and other important vitamins and minerals. Unfermented soy destroys zinc. You need zinc is good brain, nervous, and immune food.
Too much soy causes rickets, low growth, and lower IQ.
Allergies are just as common in soy as they are milk.
The only way one should eat soy is the fermented way, which does benefit the body.
No people ever ate soybeans as a food (only used for nitrogen in crop rotation) until they learned how to ferment. Fermenting reduces phytate, allowing for calcium absorbtion.
Peace,
WNCGirl
WNCGirl last decade
These are my opinions, and I welcome any one's opinion. We all have them, but this is how I see it:
Nesha-India is correct in saying we all want to justify OUR WAYS, milk or not, so here are mine:
-Most calcium (sources vary and depend individually on absorption)is absorbed in the small intestine and is transported to the blood by a protein and deposited in the bone with the help of phosphorous.
-If you do not get enough calcium or vitamin D to regulate, this PHT hormone takes it from your bones, and/or causes your kidneys to excrete phosphorous (which raises calcium).
-You can also get too much phosphorus from phosphated beverages, tea, and cocoa.
-Some cheeses are manufactured using rennet from either fungal or bacterial sources.
-The development of adult lactose tolerance ("adult lactase persistence") in humans is a great example of evolution in action.
-Some populations of humans have evolved to be able to produce lactase and to digest lactose as adults; all humans were hunter-gatherers until about 10,000 years ago. That is only about 400 or 500 generations.
-Adult lactase persistence has become established in a number of populations around the world.
I ask this question: Is this "by default" the nature of things?
Has anyone ever read about eating right for your blood type?
I think I may have still have lactase as an adult because my type is newest on the evolutionary chain -AB; B types also do well with milk. O & A types (the older types, respectively) usually don't do as well absorbing, assimilating, or utilizing dairy. These later blood groups evolved by adding other sugars onto the basic O sugar.
-Approximately 75% of adults worldwide do not produce enough lactase to digest milk.
In Europe and America, the vast majority of people are type A or O.
Arabs - over 60% O & A
Aborigines - 100% O & A
Indians (India) - 59% O & A
Peru Indians - 100% O
Native American Blackfoot - 99% 0
Mayas - 98% 0
-B types rarely exceed above 30% of the population anywhere in the world.
-AB types rarely exceed above 10% of the population any where in the world.
Peace,
WNCGirl
Nesha-India is correct in saying we all want to justify OUR WAYS, milk or not, so here are mine:
-Most calcium (sources vary and depend individually on absorption)is absorbed in the small intestine and is transported to the blood by a protein and deposited in the bone with the help of phosphorous.
-If you do not get enough calcium or vitamin D to regulate, this PHT hormone takes it from your bones, and/or causes your kidneys to excrete phosphorous (which raises calcium).
-You can also get too much phosphorus from phosphated beverages, tea, and cocoa.
-Some cheeses are manufactured using rennet from either fungal or bacterial sources.
-The development of adult lactose tolerance ("adult lactase persistence") in humans is a great example of evolution in action.
-Some populations of humans have evolved to be able to produce lactase and to digest lactose as adults; all humans were hunter-gatherers until about 10,000 years ago. That is only about 400 or 500 generations.
-Adult lactase persistence has become established in a number of populations around the world.
I ask this question: Is this "by default" the nature of things?
Has anyone ever read about eating right for your blood type?
I think I may have still have lactase as an adult because my type is newest on the evolutionary chain -AB; B types also do well with milk. O & A types (the older types, respectively) usually don't do as well absorbing, assimilating, or utilizing dairy. These later blood groups evolved by adding other sugars onto the basic O sugar.
-Approximately 75% of adults worldwide do not produce enough lactase to digest milk.
In Europe and America, the vast majority of people are type A or O.
Arabs - over 60% O & A
Aborigines - 100% O & A
Indians (India) - 59% O & A
Peru Indians - 100% O
Native American Blackfoot - 99% 0
Mayas - 98% 0
-B types rarely exceed above 30% of the population anywhere in the world.
-AB types rarely exceed above 10% of the population any where in the world.
Peace,
WNCGirl
WNCGirl last decade
I gave up cows milk years ago and only use soymilk now .
But my reason was that the cattle are treated with many vaccines and chemical substances to increase milk production.
You get a free dose of these things when you drink cows milk!!!
But my reason was that the cattle are treated with many vaccines and chemical substances to increase milk production.
You get a free dose of these things when you drink cows milk!!!
walkin last decade
Hi All,
I found this post by nesha-india really thought provoking and useful. I am almost at a point of becoming a vegan from being a vegeratian. However I am not sure If I support her propagation of drinking soy milk esp knowing all the dangers/perils of soy consumption every day. I know that Soy once a while does not hurt but I am not quite sure abt this on a daily basis. Read more abt perils of soy at mercola.com.
Also how do we make the rice milk? and how does it taste..
I found this post by nesha-india really thought provoking and useful. I am almost at a point of becoming a vegan from being a vegeratian. However I am not sure If I support her propagation of drinking soy milk esp knowing all the dangers/perils of soy consumption every day. I know that Soy once a while does not hurt but I am not quite sure abt this on a daily basis. Read more abt perils of soy at mercola.com.
Also how do we make the rice milk? and how does it taste..
DP last decade
-grind the rice to rice flour first, then cook it like cream-of-wheat.
-Use grain mill (if any) or food processor (if any) or the good ole' mortar and pestal (if any).
-Add about a cup and a cup of water to the blender.
-Blend on high until well mixed
-Add (vanilla if you must) and fill remaining blender with water.
-Refigerate and use within a week.
-Stir each time before use.
I'm sure you can make it easy enough with different methods. This is the way I like it, though.
-Use grain mill (if any) or food processor (if any) or the good ole' mortar and pestal (if any).
-Add about a cup and a cup of water to the blender.
-Blend on high until well mixed
-Add (vanilla if you must) and fill remaining blender with water.
-Refigerate and use within a week.
-Stir each time before use.
I'm sure you can make it easy enough with different methods. This is the way I like it, though.
WNCGirl last decade
Hi WNC girl,
Thanks for the info But how do u add things to make it close to cows mik in terms of calcium and protein.
Thanks for the info But how do u add things to make it close to cows mik in terms of calcium and protein.
DP last decade
While BROWN rice is and excellent source of manganese, good selenium and magnesium, it does contain only a small amount of protein, but that is of good quality because of its relatively high level of the amino acid lysine. The soy protein isolate (SPI) is almost pure protein if you can find and want to add. Soy could be a great food if it weren't so hard to break down. That is why letting it ferment helps your body digest it. (Like letting yogurt culture partially digests protein, makes it shorter, easier on people's intestines.)
You can get protein from other places - like broccoli, spinach (boiled), crimini mushrooms, fish, fermented soy, oats, nuts, tomatoes, squash, other beans, seeds, peas, brussel sprouts etc...
Calcium - just about all leafy greens, dark green lettuce, celery, cinnamon, spinach, blackstrap molasses, sesame seeds, basil, thyme, oregano etc...
If you eat balanced food you don't have to worry about getting your protein and calcium through a milk substitute. The rice milk can be just for fun if you want to use in soup, or as a drink.
WNC
You can get protein from other places - like broccoli, spinach (boiled), crimini mushrooms, fish, fermented soy, oats, nuts, tomatoes, squash, other beans, seeds, peas, brussel sprouts etc...
Calcium - just about all leafy greens, dark green lettuce, celery, cinnamon, spinach, blackstrap molasses, sesame seeds, basil, thyme, oregano etc...
If you eat balanced food you don't have to worry about getting your protein and calcium through a milk substitute. The rice milk can be just for fun if you want to use in soup, or as a drink.
WNC
WNCGirl last decade
Oh yeah, I definitely agree about the almond milk.
You said "put the almonds in the blender with a cup of milk" did mean water?
I love almond milk.
You said "put the almonds in the blender with a cup of milk" did mean water?
I love almond milk.
WNCGirl last decade
Oh Man! You have risked Ms. Militant's displeasure by contradicting her!
Almond milk, she commeneded Soya Milk.
May Almighty God help us all.
Almond milk, she commeneded Soya Milk.
May Almighty God help us all.
sanj551 last decade
"WINCGirl" :
No hard-feelings, but you should re-read my articles AGAIN, this time more slowly.
1. G.I.Tract of Human CANNOT breakdown Animal's Casien, (Cow, Goat, Dog, Donkey .... ) and this converts this protein into high quality Toxins FOR THE HUMAN system, leading to various pathological disorders.
2. Drink ample amount of Goat milk for say 24 hours
3. Perform an Endoscopy of the insides of the Human upper G.I.Tract. Watch in live 3D. See the extra Coat of Mucuos on the inside walls of upper G.I.Tract. Extract this mucous. Lab check it for Casein. What do you see.
4. Casein and further casein putrifying nicely.
5. Everything in the G.I.Tract is absorbed in Trace amounts and NEVER otherwise. These trace amounts itself are the allergens. If food is passed out from the G.I.Tract, into the blood steam, in non-trace quantities, the body flares up instantly (& not over period of time), swells and even dies.
6. Evolution in all Humans species are literally the same and there is nothing such as Asians can digest this better than the Europeans. This are all junk justifications by prejudiced lobby.
7. Human beings CANNOT produce the enzyme lactase, AFTER ABOUT 40 MONTHS OF AGE irrespective of any blood group. The Human G.I.Tract does not recognise any blood groups or any race or any species. Even Human blood. if drunk, is treated as protein by the G.I.Tract and disposed off appropriately.
8. Soya milk, was SUGGESTED as a alternative to Animal fluids (Milk). Likewise you impressed upon Rice milk and agreed on Almond Milk. All are natural & organic & free from all toxins, germs, bacteria, .... Atleast they are not (in-humanly) Animal Fluid MILK. Take your pick.
MEDICAL JUSTIFICATION :
As explained by Nesha-India, in above Milk article.
( http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/52848/ )
PHILOSOPHICAL JUSTIFICATION :
a) Goat Milk & its Casein is much fewer and lighter and is easily disgestible.
b) Goat milk and its composition is similar to human milk. (maybe we can do blood transfusion too - Goat to Human. (luckily for the animals, nature did not allow of this)
c) Soy milk contains this and that and is harder than so and so. (nesha-india found this justification the hardest to digest) irrespective of the random prejudiced information found on the internet.
- "walkin" drinks soymilk, and with the intelligence he posess, "walkin" will give more of his aged experiences on soymilk and why he drinks this dangerous soymilk. Do put a question to "walkin", for acadamic reasons, if he has " rickets, low growth, and lower IQ " (as you mentioned earlier)
d) Religious & Social beliefs on the supposed good heavenly qualities of milk.
e) Peopls's prejudiced notions on such foods (milk).
f) All animal milk is not the same. BUT it acts on ALL the human species in the same way subject to individual resistance, irrespective of blood group or race.
- The protein in the animal milk (any animal) is the allergen (casein), BUT the human G.I.Tract does not recognise it because it is NEVER broken down in the G.I.Tract. and passes out undigested. Whether, This animals milk or That type animals milk = immaterial.
g) that the holistic animals (cows, goats ... ) produce enough milk over and above her childrens requirements for the benefit of human - another humbug inhuman justification.
h) for some prejudiced people, (due to above type of philosophical justifications) the reasoning behind Animal milks allergen or say digestion, absorbtion and assimilation technique IS BEYOND THEIR CAPACITY TO ACADEMACIALLY DIGEST (read), & ABSORB (understand) & ASSIMILATE (to retain) the KNOWLEDGE.
- "kuldeep" said it is a - jihad -, BUT atleast he does not drink Animal fluids (milk). The Animal Astrological God "saturn" may bless him, with a Capricorn (Goat), for that.
i) AS IT IS, it is the human tendency to grab free meals as and where possible (that's what literally what means as "milking the cow")
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The Therapeutic and Nurtitional composition of Animal products (including Milk & Milk products) is absolutely useless when in comparison with Organic Vegetable products.
AGAIN CONSIDER THIS ... : IT is apparently the residual evolve'itionery ANIMAL INSTINCT URGE that's left in the Human gene, that urges or compels it to go ahead grabbing or jostling for Animal protien. Hence the constant human urge or desire or CRAVING to feed on Animal protien.
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Medical justification and Philosophical justification for two entirely different things, entirely.
Depends how much people are prejudiced in justifying.
a) A smoker will justify his smoking in the face of medical justification (cancer)
2) A boozer will justify his drinking citing health reasons or relieving stress ....
Nesha-India is giving Medical justification and not Philosophical justification. If one does not understand Medical justification than it does not mean that Philosophical justification will prevail when treating the human body with the calamities caused by such animal protiens. Philosophical justification is imbibed & conditioned in the mind by age-old grandma social prejudiced philosophical reasons. Generally people are mono-maniacs (one tracked) and it is even virtually not possible to break this philosophical prejudiced justifications.
In social societies, Philosophical justification takes precedence over Medical justifications, that's until pathalogical calamities start taking place. Anyway, the above was just an article. Enjoy the Animal (and the milk).
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
Also enjoy reading the following link :
http://www.q u a c k watch.org/01Q u a c k eryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clark.html
(remove the above blank spaces)
No hard-feelings, but you should re-read my articles AGAIN, this time more slowly.
1. G.I.Tract of Human CANNOT breakdown Animal's Casien, (Cow, Goat, Dog, Donkey .... ) and this converts this protein into high quality Toxins FOR THE HUMAN system, leading to various pathological disorders.
2. Drink ample amount of Goat milk for say 24 hours
3. Perform an Endoscopy of the insides of the Human upper G.I.Tract. Watch in live 3D. See the extra Coat of Mucuos on the inside walls of upper G.I.Tract. Extract this mucous. Lab check it for Casein. What do you see.
4. Casein and further casein putrifying nicely.
5. Everything in the G.I.Tract is absorbed in Trace amounts and NEVER otherwise. These trace amounts itself are the allergens. If food is passed out from the G.I.Tract, into the blood steam, in non-trace quantities, the body flares up instantly (& not over period of time), swells and even dies.
6. Evolution in all Humans species are literally the same and there is nothing such as Asians can digest this better than the Europeans. This are all junk justifications by prejudiced lobby.
7. Human beings CANNOT produce the enzyme lactase, AFTER ABOUT 40 MONTHS OF AGE irrespective of any blood group. The Human G.I.Tract does not recognise any blood groups or any race or any species. Even Human blood. if drunk, is treated as protein by the G.I.Tract and disposed off appropriately.
8. Soya milk, was SUGGESTED as a alternative to Animal fluids (Milk). Likewise you impressed upon Rice milk and agreed on Almond Milk. All are natural & organic & free from all toxins, germs, bacteria, .... Atleast they are not (in-humanly) Animal Fluid MILK. Take your pick.
MEDICAL JUSTIFICATION :
As explained by Nesha-India, in above Milk article.
( http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/52848/ )
PHILOSOPHICAL JUSTIFICATION :
a) Goat Milk & its Casein is much fewer and lighter and is easily disgestible.
b) Goat milk and its composition is similar to human milk. (maybe we can do blood transfusion too - Goat to Human. (luckily for the animals, nature did not allow of this)
c) Soy milk contains this and that and is harder than so and so. (nesha-india found this justification the hardest to digest) irrespective of the random prejudiced information found on the internet.
- "walkin" drinks soymilk, and with the intelligence he posess, "walkin" will give more of his aged experiences on soymilk and why he drinks this dangerous soymilk. Do put a question to "walkin", for acadamic reasons, if he has " rickets, low growth, and lower IQ " (as you mentioned earlier)
d) Religious & Social beliefs on the supposed good heavenly qualities of milk.
e) Peopls's prejudiced notions on such foods (milk).
f) All animal milk is not the same. BUT it acts on ALL the human species in the same way subject to individual resistance, irrespective of blood group or race.
- The protein in the animal milk (any animal) is the allergen (casein), BUT the human G.I.Tract does not recognise it because it is NEVER broken down in the G.I.Tract. and passes out undigested. Whether, This animals milk or That type animals milk = immaterial.
g) that the holistic animals (cows, goats ... ) produce enough milk over and above her childrens requirements for the benefit of human - another humbug inhuman justification.
h) for some prejudiced people, (due to above type of philosophical justifications) the reasoning behind Animal milks allergen or say digestion, absorbtion and assimilation technique IS BEYOND THEIR CAPACITY TO ACADEMACIALLY DIGEST (read), & ABSORB (understand) & ASSIMILATE (to retain) the KNOWLEDGE.
- "kuldeep" said it is a - jihad -, BUT atleast he does not drink Animal fluids (milk). The Animal Astrological God "saturn" may bless him, with a Capricorn (Goat), for that.
i) AS IT IS, it is the human tendency to grab free meals as and where possible (that's what literally what means as "milking the cow")
*************** reproduced again from last times post
The Therapeutic and Nurtitional composition of Animal products (including Milk & Milk products) is absolutely useless when in comparison with Organic Vegetable products.
AGAIN CONSIDER THIS ... : IT is apparently the residual evolve'itionery ANIMAL INSTINCT URGE that's left in the Human gene, that urges or compels it to go ahead grabbing or jostling for Animal protien. Hence the constant human urge or desire or CRAVING to feed on Animal protien.
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Medical justification and Philosophical justification for two entirely different things, entirely.
Depends how much people are prejudiced in justifying.
a) A smoker will justify his smoking in the face of medical justification (cancer)
2) A boozer will justify his drinking citing health reasons or relieving stress ....
Nesha-India is giving Medical justification and not Philosophical justification. If one does not understand Medical justification than it does not mean that Philosophical justification will prevail when treating the human body with the calamities caused by such animal protiens. Philosophical justification is imbibed & conditioned in the mind by age-old grandma social prejudiced philosophical reasons. Generally people are mono-maniacs (one tracked) and it is even virtually not possible to break this philosophical prejudiced justifications.
In social societies, Philosophical justification takes precedence over Medical justifications, that's until pathalogical calamities start taking place. Anyway, the above was just an article. Enjoy the Animal (and the milk).
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
Also enjoy reading the following link :
http://www.q u a c k watch.org/01Q u a c k eryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clark.html
(remove the above blank spaces)
Nesha-India last decade
I may be breaking my best friend Tamiano's heart.
But I will rather say:
One can happily live without milk.
But I will rather say:
One can happily live without milk.
kuldeep last decade
No-hard feeling taken, Nesha. I respect your insight.
I believe that performing an endocscopy on one upper GI tract of one human can produce the results as you say. But make these people of certain weight, height, similarities, drink same amounts of same kind of milk and do these things on many, many, people recording the results. Are you saying that all animal casein, every bit, will still remain in the GI tract of every individual?
I believe you will not find that exact same number of casein putrifying. (If you have performed these experiments and have the results, I would like to see them so that I may be capable can change the way I assimilate information).
As it stands now, I believe you will not find the exact same amount of the exact same protein/vitamin/mineral/anything of ANY food reacting/absorbing/ assimilating/digesting/
the exact same way in the GI tract of EVERY person.
I know you probably have more endoscopic experience than I do, but I would like to see results performed on many individuals as I said before.
I would also like to see the results performed on individuals, making them as similar as possible, changing only their blood type.
I would also like to see the results of this same procedure performed with soymilk.
I would also like to see this performed with any unfermented soy product.
I would also like to know that if you are not absorbing the protein, does this also mean that you are not absorbing anything else that may be nutritious in the above mentioned food or any other food, organic vegetable or animal.
Evolution is not occuring the same in all humans. How do you think different blood types occurred in the first place? It does not occur in a "race" of people. It is occuring in the genes of INDIVIDUALS, making individuals DIFFERENT.
A short lesson in evolution:
Biological evolution refers to the cumulative changes that occur in a population over time. These changes are produced at the genetic level as organisms' genes mutate and/or recombine in different ways during reproduction and are passed on to future generations. Sometimes, individuals inherit new characteristics that give them a survival and reproductive advantage in their local environments; these characteristics tend to increase in frequency in the population, while those that are disadvantageous decrease in frequency. This process of differential survival and reproduction is known as natural selection. Non-genetic changes that occur during an organism's life span, such as increases in muscle mass due to exercise and diet, cannot be passed on to the next generation and are not examples of evolution.
Genes are the portions of an organism's DNA that carry the code responsible for building that organism in a very SPECIFIC way. Genes -- and, thus, the traits they code for -- are passed from parent to offspring. From generation to generation, well-understood molecular mechanisms reshuffle, duplicate, and alter genes in a way that produces genetic variation. This variation is the raw material for evolution.
Survival of the fittest usually makes one think of the biggest, strongest, or smartest individuals being the winners, but in a biological sense, evolutionary fitness refers to the ability to survive and reproduce in a particular environment. Popular interpretations of "survival of the fittest" typically ignore the importance of both reproduction and cooperation. To survive but not pass on one's genes to the next generation is to be biologically unfit. And many organisms are the "fittest" because they cooperate with other organisms, rather than competing with them.
Individual organisms don't evolve. Populations evolve. Because individuals in a population vary, some in the population are better able to survive and reproduce given a particular set of environmental conditions. These individuals generally survive and produce more offspring, thus passing their advantageous traits on to the next generation. Over time, the population changes.
Yes, some adults do have lactase. I don't know where you are getting your information, but books and professors are limited and are not THE ONLY WAY. I think that we should try and be more open to new ideas and findings.
This is why thoeries are generally accepted until they are PROVEN right or wrong.
This is how we learn and grow and find the truth.
Science has nothing to say one way or the other about the existence of God or about people's spiritual beliefs.
I am telling you the truth when I say you can produce more milk than needed if properly stimulated. This is medically PROVEN. You make as much as your body tells you to make. Aside from individual differences, which respectfully, I do not think you are aware of, if you are nursing more, your body makes more, if you are nursing less, your body makes less. It is medically proven. If I "milk" myself I WILL make more than my child can eat or needs. Why is this wrong to give the extra to my other child? (In your philosophical opinion/justification?)
Nesha says "that the holistic animals (cows, goats ... ) produce enough milk over and above her childrens requirements for the benefit of human - another humbug inhuman justification."
This is obviously a philosophical justification on your part, and has nothing whatsoever to do with science/medicine or inhumanity.
Absorption and assimilation of knowledge also requires us to open our eyes and minds to other ideas, test these ideas and see if they hold validity. History teaches us well, but we will not if we do not move forward.
Just because soymilk is a "fad", is and organic vegetable product, and because people seek alternatives to animal milk does not MAKE it acceptable to the Human GI tract and is not necessarily naturally assimilated and absorbed by the human GI tract. (Again, certain individuals may be able to more easily than others).
Nesha says- "walkin" drinks soymilk, and with the intelligence he posess, "walkin" will give more of his aged experiences on soymilk and why he drinks this dangerous soymilk. Do put a question to "walkin", for acadamic reasons, if he has " rickets, low growth, and lower IQ " (as you mentioned earlier).
[[[[Thank you for pointing out what I said in the earlier post, "Too much soy causes rickets, low growth, and lower IQ." What I meant to say was that people with not enough VITAMIN D are at RISK for these things. Thank you for allowing me to correct this.
(Interestingly enough 25% of China';s child population suffer from rickets STILL)]]]]
Academically and medically speaking, people need protein.
Soymilk (like milk) is also not the best way to get protein. Drink it for fun, or for an alternative but it is not for the protein.
I do not intentionally criticize your beliefs or justifications whether they are valid/medically proven/philosophical/religious or otherwise. I like to see proof and do accept new ideas if presented well. This has nothing to do with philosophy.
SO, if you have those results as requested, I will review the literature as my time permits.
Peace,
WNCGirl
I believe that performing an endocscopy on one upper GI tract of one human can produce the results as you say. But make these people of certain weight, height, similarities, drink same amounts of same kind of milk and do these things on many, many, people recording the results. Are you saying that all animal casein, every bit, will still remain in the GI tract of every individual?
I believe you will not find that exact same number of casein putrifying. (If you have performed these experiments and have the results, I would like to see them so that I may be capable can change the way I assimilate information).
As it stands now, I believe you will not find the exact same amount of the exact same protein/vitamin/mineral/anything of ANY food reacting/absorbing/ assimilating/digesting/
the exact same way in the GI tract of EVERY person.
I know you probably have more endoscopic experience than I do, but I would like to see results performed on many individuals as I said before.
I would also like to see the results performed on individuals, making them as similar as possible, changing only their blood type.
I would also like to see the results of this same procedure performed with soymilk.
I would also like to see this performed with any unfermented soy product.
I would also like to know that if you are not absorbing the protein, does this also mean that you are not absorbing anything else that may be nutritious in the above mentioned food or any other food, organic vegetable or animal.
Evolution is not occuring the same in all humans. How do you think different blood types occurred in the first place? It does not occur in a "race" of people. It is occuring in the genes of INDIVIDUALS, making individuals DIFFERENT.
A short lesson in evolution:
Biological evolution refers to the cumulative changes that occur in a population over time. These changes are produced at the genetic level as organisms' genes mutate and/or recombine in different ways during reproduction and are passed on to future generations. Sometimes, individuals inherit new characteristics that give them a survival and reproductive advantage in their local environments; these characteristics tend to increase in frequency in the population, while those that are disadvantageous decrease in frequency. This process of differential survival and reproduction is known as natural selection. Non-genetic changes that occur during an organism's life span, such as increases in muscle mass due to exercise and diet, cannot be passed on to the next generation and are not examples of evolution.
Genes are the portions of an organism's DNA that carry the code responsible for building that organism in a very SPECIFIC way. Genes -- and, thus, the traits they code for -- are passed from parent to offspring. From generation to generation, well-understood molecular mechanisms reshuffle, duplicate, and alter genes in a way that produces genetic variation. This variation is the raw material for evolution.
Survival of the fittest usually makes one think of the biggest, strongest, or smartest individuals being the winners, but in a biological sense, evolutionary fitness refers to the ability to survive and reproduce in a particular environment. Popular interpretations of "survival of the fittest" typically ignore the importance of both reproduction and cooperation. To survive but not pass on one's genes to the next generation is to be biologically unfit. And many organisms are the "fittest" because they cooperate with other organisms, rather than competing with them.
Individual organisms don't evolve. Populations evolve. Because individuals in a population vary, some in the population are better able to survive and reproduce given a particular set of environmental conditions. These individuals generally survive and produce more offspring, thus passing their advantageous traits on to the next generation. Over time, the population changes.
Yes, some adults do have lactase. I don't know where you are getting your information, but books and professors are limited and are not THE ONLY WAY. I think that we should try and be more open to new ideas and findings.
This is why thoeries are generally accepted until they are PROVEN right or wrong.
This is how we learn and grow and find the truth.
Science has nothing to say one way or the other about the existence of God or about people's spiritual beliefs.
I am telling you the truth when I say you can produce more milk than needed if properly stimulated. This is medically PROVEN. You make as much as your body tells you to make. Aside from individual differences, which respectfully, I do not think you are aware of, if you are nursing more, your body makes more, if you are nursing less, your body makes less. It is medically proven. If I "milk" myself I WILL make more than my child can eat or needs. Why is this wrong to give the extra to my other child? (In your philosophical opinion/justification?)
Nesha says "that the holistic animals (cows, goats ... ) produce enough milk over and above her childrens requirements for the benefit of human - another humbug inhuman justification."
This is obviously a philosophical justification on your part, and has nothing whatsoever to do with science/medicine or inhumanity.
Absorption and assimilation of knowledge also requires us to open our eyes and minds to other ideas, test these ideas and see if they hold validity. History teaches us well, but we will not if we do not move forward.
Just because soymilk is a "fad", is and organic vegetable product, and because people seek alternatives to animal milk does not MAKE it acceptable to the Human GI tract and is not necessarily naturally assimilated and absorbed by the human GI tract. (Again, certain individuals may be able to more easily than others).
Nesha says- "walkin" drinks soymilk, and with the intelligence he posess, "walkin" will give more of his aged experiences on soymilk and why he drinks this dangerous soymilk. Do put a question to "walkin", for acadamic reasons, if he has " rickets, low growth, and lower IQ " (as you mentioned earlier).
[[[[Thank you for pointing out what I said in the earlier post, "Too much soy causes rickets, low growth, and lower IQ." What I meant to say was that people with not enough VITAMIN D are at RISK for these things. Thank you for allowing me to correct this.
(Interestingly enough 25% of China';s child population suffer from rickets STILL)]]]]
Academically and medically speaking, people need protein.
Soymilk (like milk) is also not the best way to get protein. Drink it for fun, or for an alternative but it is not for the protein.
I do not intentionally criticize your beliefs or justifications whether they are valid/medically proven/philosophical/religious or otherwise. I like to see proof and do accept new ideas if presented well. This has nothing to do with philosophy.
SO, if you have those results as requested, I will review the literature as my time permits.
Peace,
WNCGirl
WNCGirl last decade
Nesha, you also say this, "The Therapeutic and Nurtitional composition of Animal products (including Milk & Milk products) is absolutely useless when in comparison with Organic Vegetable products."
I ask you to please compare the uselessness of animal milk to the uselfullness of soymilk.
And would you suggest drinking the common milkweed as an alternative to animal milk? It is an organic vegetable, and butterflies seem to like it.
Nesha also says, "AGAIN CONSIDER THIS ... : IT is apparently the residual evolve'itionery ANIMAL INSTINCT URGE that's left in the Human gene, that urges or compels it to go ahead grabbing or jostling for Animal protien. Hence the constant human urge or desire or CRAVING to feed on Animal protien."
Are you asking me to consider that my instincts are wrong?
If it were apparent, more people would realize or understand.
Does this mean that my mind wants the animal protein, but my body doesn't?
CONSIDER THIS: Following your instincts IS survival. Meat or not, milk or not, food or not, this or that, whatever.
ALSO CONSIDER THIS: Perhaps (NOT APPARENTLY or OBVIOUSLY) but, perhaps it is the ANIMAL INSTINT URGE that is in the evolutionary gene presently being created in the human population that allows us to satisfy our urge or desire for animal protein by moving away from eating the animal by instead drinking it's milk. (lacto-vegetarian, and yes there is such a thing. It is defined exactly as it says).
Peace IS health and happiness,
WNCGirl
I ask you to please compare the uselessness of animal milk to the uselfullness of soymilk.
And would you suggest drinking the common milkweed as an alternative to animal milk? It is an organic vegetable, and butterflies seem to like it.
Nesha also says, "AGAIN CONSIDER THIS ... : IT is apparently the residual evolve'itionery ANIMAL INSTINCT URGE that's left in the Human gene, that urges or compels it to go ahead grabbing or jostling for Animal protien. Hence the constant human urge or desire or CRAVING to feed on Animal protien."
Are you asking me to consider that my instincts are wrong?
If it were apparent, more people would realize or understand.
Does this mean that my mind wants the animal protein, but my body doesn't?
CONSIDER THIS: Following your instincts IS survival. Meat or not, milk or not, food or not, this or that, whatever.
ALSO CONSIDER THIS: Perhaps (NOT APPARENTLY or OBVIOUSLY) but, perhaps it is the ANIMAL INSTINT URGE that is in the evolutionary gene presently being created in the human population that allows us to satisfy our urge or desire for animal protein by moving away from eating the animal by instead drinking it's milk. (lacto-vegetarian, and yes there is such a thing. It is defined exactly as it says).
Peace IS health and happiness,
WNCGirl
WNCGirl last decade
You asked me to read this article. I have, and many others like it.
And you too, are obviously and sadly mistaken. Did you read the protests at the bottom of the page? Did you talk to all those healed by this method?
I can only assume that you do not know the danger this presents to our precious medical community if people can actually do this (and have) to cure themselves. And if you do, this is all the more reason to criticize.
Do you know the true history of Dr. Rife?
Our American History books teach us that we did not harm the Natives of this land, with only one small exposed fault the Trail of Tears. These are written by our government. Who do you think q u a c k watch is written by? The same people that want to vaccinate you. Hello.
They say negative things about ALL forms of alternative medicine.
Here is an example of something said about homeopathy on this site:
Is Homeopathy Q u a c kery?
In the United States, we have a motto: If it walks like a duck, and looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, then it probably is a duck. To what extent does homeopathy look like q u a c kery and sound like q u a c kery?
One clear link that homeopathy has to q u a c kery is its supporters use of faulty logic. The first example is known as the test of time argument -- the fact that homeopathy has existed for a long time shows that it is valid. But longevity does not guarantee validity. Astrology, numerology, and dowsing have been around for a long time, but they are clear examples of pseudoscience. Longevity of an idea is never a good substitute for rigorous
science...
In the spirit of fair-mindedness, one may be tempted to give homeopathy the benefit of the doubt and simply conclude not yet proven. However, what then are we to do when many lay practitioners report that merely writing the name of the remedy on a piece of paper, and putting this on the body of the patient results in a cure. Even two respected national spokesmen were unwilling to reject these reports, and one of them suggested that quantum physics may ultimately explain these healings as well as those reported by patients who are given the remedy over the phone.
We must conclude that homeopathy certainly sounds like q u a c kery.
homeowatch(dot)org/articles/wagner.html
Do you think homeopathy is q u a c kery?
So, why, if you do not know the facts, are you attempting to expose fault in something you are mistaken about? This is not how we move forward.
WNCGirl
And you too, are obviously and sadly mistaken. Did you read the protests at the bottom of the page? Did you talk to all those healed by this method?
I can only assume that you do not know the danger this presents to our precious medical community if people can actually do this (and have) to cure themselves. And if you do, this is all the more reason to criticize.
Do you know the true history of Dr. Rife?
Our American History books teach us that we did not harm the Natives of this land, with only one small exposed fault the Trail of Tears. These are written by our government. Who do you think q u a c k watch is written by? The same people that want to vaccinate you. Hello.
They say negative things about ALL forms of alternative medicine.
Here is an example of something said about homeopathy on this site:
Is Homeopathy Q u a c kery?
In the United States, we have a motto: If it walks like a duck, and looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, then it probably is a duck. To what extent does homeopathy look like q u a c kery and sound like q u a c kery?
One clear link that homeopathy has to q u a c kery is its supporters use of faulty logic. The first example is known as the test of time argument -- the fact that homeopathy has existed for a long time shows that it is valid. But longevity does not guarantee validity. Astrology, numerology, and dowsing have been around for a long time, but they are clear examples of pseudoscience. Longevity of an idea is never a good substitute for rigorous
science...
In the spirit of fair-mindedness, one may be tempted to give homeopathy the benefit of the doubt and simply conclude not yet proven. However, what then are we to do when many lay practitioners report that merely writing the name of the remedy on a piece of paper, and putting this on the body of the patient results in a cure. Even two respected national spokesmen were unwilling to reject these reports, and one of them suggested that quantum physics may ultimately explain these healings as well as those reported by patients who are given the remedy over the phone.
We must conclude that homeopathy certainly sounds like q u a c kery.
homeowatch(dot)org/articles/wagner.html
Do you think homeopathy is q u a c kery?
So, why, if you do not know the facts, are you attempting to expose fault in something you are mistaken about? This is not how we move forward.
WNCGirl
WNCGirl last decade
"WINCGirl" :
No hard-feeling, again.
1. My reasoning is not your reasoning. It should never be.
2. Regarding the Casein info and the data, I think you should arrange the experiment with your own resources to check the facts, instead on relying on other's peopls data (which would again be a source of doubtful debate). THAT would be more satisfying instead of getting spoon-fed. That would also mean different experiments on different animal proteins and soy, vegetable proteins ON all human species, race and blood types.
3. Human G.I.Tract responds differently in all people, hence some people are allergic and some are not, to different foods.
4. For some people, food passes out without creating an allergen, and for some it causes allergies of different kinds and different levels.
5. Nothing is EXACT & SPECIFIC with any or all human beings. The energy level of each human will determine the allergen he can sustain, resist or repel.
6. Casein may remain or not remain in the G.I.Tract (ultimately over the period of time, it gets thrown out, due to other incoming food and fibers), BUT it is never broken down by any species or race of Human G.I.Tract. The G.I.Tract will react differently in sustaining, resisting, repelling or expelling it, all depending on energy level, diseases, environment and other stress related issues.
Species evolve. Population or Race pockets do not evolve. Race or blood group are only variational mutant genetic malfunctions leading to color, height & other body contour variations. That does not mean changes in the G.I.Tract structure of different Human races or blood groups. Different race (white or black or ...) or blood groups, does not change the way human G.I.Tract functions NOR it will function differently in different race or blood groups.
Race, color, height, blood groups does not mean that they are different species, as far as evolution is concerned. Evolution, is dependent on the energy structure of that species, into that environment, into that atmosphere, diseases, physical & mental stress levels.
Human milk if fed to the cow-calf, will not suffice for the calf's development, NOT due to the nutrients in Human Milk, BUT DUE to the G.I.Tract structure of the calf. The digestive acid juices & enzymes produced by an animal and human are totally different, JUST BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURE OF HUMAN G.I.TRACT AND THE WAY IT FUNCTIONS.
ON HOMEOPATHY :
Homeopathy is macro nano science. To understand it, it takes reasoning more than intelligence or knowledge. Most qualified Homeopaths are qualified "q u a c k s". The best of the homeopaths will practice homeo medicines on the THIS FOR THAT symptoms, making Homeopathy seem as "q u a c k e r y".
Regarding Homeopathy, Read Nesha-India's answer to question by "sazim" in http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/50156/1, specially post dated 17 February 2006.
- AND -
Also read http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/35254/4
specially post dated : 30 January 2006 & 09 December 2005 & other posts.
AFTER reading the above posts, please infer on what Nesha-india thinks of Homeopathy.
Nesha-India, does not know true history of Dr. Rife or Dr. Clarke (with his hare-brained electronic devices) or others.
You may email the Dr. Clarke's, inquiring them if they ever had a debate on medicine and human anatomy functionings with "Nesha-India" (or better still mention some one from India - Nesha-India is just an login name).
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FOR A CHANGE, If Nesha-India may ask some questions. Please explain the following as you mentioned it in your last postings : No data or proof is required, just your perceptions (that's if you have the time) .
1. Academically and medically speaking, people need protein.
Q. Why the need for protein and for What and why not from vegetable source.
Q Goat, Cows feed on what and how do they get their proteins
Q. Most herbivorous feed on grass & leaves. Where do they get their protein from.
Q. If protein is NOT eaten by people, what will happen.
Q. How will the G.I.Tract function, (or not function) if protein is not eaten.
2. Too much soy causes rickets, low growth, and lower IQ.
- Interestingly enough 25% of China';s child population suffer from rickets STILL.
Q. What is the justification and why soy causes rickets, low growth and lower IQ.
Q. Is it the lack of Vit-D, or is it because of Soy protein.
Q. The consumption of Soy is the highest in China verses other countries. Obiviously, the other 75% are with high IQ & so very intelligent that they are the world masters of literally all the Natural & Organic Medicines of this world, besides being the Masters of all INTELLIGENT trades & scientic developments. (Electronics, Silk, Martial arts, invention of weapons, gunpowder, chemicals, construction - great wall of china .........)
Q. Will drinking Animal Milk, CAUSE or NOT CAUSE, rickets, low growth and lower IQ. WHY, please give reasons.
Q. MAYBE if "walkin" the soy milk drinker, can also give his inputs. "walkin", rightly reasons that the cattle are treated with many vaccines and chemical substances to increase milk production. HE also says "You get a free dose of these things when you drink animals milk!!! "
- What happens to the human health, if you drink such milk
3. Animal Milk = lacto-vegetarian
Q. Is that called sourced from an Organic source or Animal source or what ..
Q. egg-e-atarian, (Eating eggs is philosophically justified & considered as vegetarian, since the chick's flesh is not developed yet) ... IS this Egg, organic or what
Q. What happens with Mad Cow Disease, Avian Bird Flu, as far as lacto-vegetarian and eggeatarian foods is consumption concerned verses consuming soymilk.
4. Vaccinations.
Q. What is wrong with Vaccinations & Immunizations.
Q. Did it reduce the world population in anyway or what.
Q. Did vaccinations & immunizations help increase human population, in any way,
Q. Did Vaccinations cause any NEW permanent diseases on this earth, if Yes, Which.
Q. Why was Vaccination prepared in the first place and fo what.
Q. If there was no Vaccination / immunizations, WHAT could have happend to those diseases for which vaccinations were prepared, for example, polio, MMR, ....
Q. How much Human population could have been wiped out, in the absence of Vaccines.
Q. Has vaccinations helped humans in resisting many diseases or what.
Quote : " Anger is only one letter short of danger "
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
No hard-feeling, again.
1. My reasoning is not your reasoning. It should never be.
2. Regarding the Casein info and the data, I think you should arrange the experiment with your own resources to check the facts, instead on relying on other's peopls data (which would again be a source of doubtful debate). THAT would be more satisfying instead of getting spoon-fed. That would also mean different experiments on different animal proteins and soy, vegetable proteins ON all human species, race and blood types.
3. Human G.I.Tract responds differently in all people, hence some people are allergic and some are not, to different foods.
4. For some people, food passes out without creating an allergen, and for some it causes allergies of different kinds and different levels.
5. Nothing is EXACT & SPECIFIC with any or all human beings. The energy level of each human will determine the allergen he can sustain, resist or repel.
6. Casein may remain or not remain in the G.I.Tract (ultimately over the period of time, it gets thrown out, due to other incoming food and fibers), BUT it is never broken down by any species or race of Human G.I.Tract. The G.I.Tract will react differently in sustaining, resisting, repelling or expelling it, all depending on energy level, diseases, environment and other stress related issues.
Species evolve. Population or Race pockets do not evolve. Race or blood group are only variational mutant genetic malfunctions leading to color, height & other body contour variations. That does not mean changes in the G.I.Tract structure of different Human races or blood groups. Different race (white or black or ...) or blood groups, does not change the way human G.I.Tract functions NOR it will function differently in different race or blood groups.
Race, color, height, blood groups does not mean that they are different species, as far as evolution is concerned. Evolution, is dependent on the energy structure of that species, into that environment, into that atmosphere, diseases, physical & mental stress levels.
Human milk if fed to the cow-calf, will not suffice for the calf's development, NOT due to the nutrients in Human Milk, BUT DUE to the G.I.Tract structure of the calf. The digestive acid juices & enzymes produced by an animal and human are totally different, JUST BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURE OF HUMAN G.I.TRACT AND THE WAY IT FUNCTIONS.
ON HOMEOPATHY :
Homeopathy is macro nano science. To understand it, it takes reasoning more than intelligence or knowledge. Most qualified Homeopaths are qualified "q u a c k s". The best of the homeopaths will practice homeo medicines on the THIS FOR THAT symptoms, making Homeopathy seem as "q u a c k e r y".
Regarding Homeopathy, Read Nesha-India's answer to question by "sazim" in http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/50156/1, specially post dated 17 February 2006.
- AND -
Also read http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/35254/4
specially post dated : 30 January 2006 & 09 December 2005 & other posts.
AFTER reading the above posts, please infer on what Nesha-india thinks of Homeopathy.
Nesha-India, does not know true history of Dr. Rife or Dr. Clarke (with his hare-brained electronic devices) or others.
You may email the Dr. Clarke's, inquiring them if they ever had a debate on medicine and human anatomy functionings with "Nesha-India" (or better still mention some one from India - Nesha-India is just an login name).
* * * * *
FOR A CHANGE, If Nesha-India may ask some questions. Please explain the following as you mentioned it in your last postings : No data or proof is required, just your perceptions (that's if you have the time) .
1. Academically and medically speaking, people need protein.
Q. Why the need for protein and for What and why not from vegetable source.
Q Goat, Cows feed on what and how do they get their proteins
Q. Most herbivorous feed on grass & leaves. Where do they get their protein from.
Q. If protein is NOT eaten by people, what will happen.
Q. How will the G.I.Tract function, (or not function) if protein is not eaten.
2. Too much soy causes rickets, low growth, and lower IQ.
- Interestingly enough 25% of China';s child population suffer from rickets STILL.
Q. What is the justification and why soy causes rickets, low growth and lower IQ.
Q. Is it the lack of Vit-D, or is it because of Soy protein.
Q. The consumption of Soy is the highest in China verses other countries. Obiviously, the other 75% are with high IQ & so very intelligent that they are the world masters of literally all the Natural & Organic Medicines of this world, besides being the Masters of all INTELLIGENT trades & scientic developments. (Electronics, Silk, Martial arts, invention of weapons, gunpowder, chemicals, construction - great wall of china .........)
Q. Will drinking Animal Milk, CAUSE or NOT CAUSE, rickets, low growth and lower IQ. WHY, please give reasons.
Q. MAYBE if "walkin" the soy milk drinker, can also give his inputs. "walkin", rightly reasons that the cattle are treated with many vaccines and chemical substances to increase milk production. HE also says "You get a free dose of these things when you drink animals milk!!! "
- What happens to the human health, if you drink such milk
3. Animal Milk = lacto-vegetarian
Q. Is that called sourced from an Organic source or Animal source or what ..
Q. egg-e-atarian, (Eating eggs is philosophically justified & considered as vegetarian, since the chick's flesh is not developed yet) ... IS this Egg, organic or what
Q. What happens with Mad Cow Disease, Avian Bird Flu, as far as lacto-vegetarian and eggeatarian foods is consumption concerned verses consuming soymilk.
4. Vaccinations.
Q. What is wrong with Vaccinations & Immunizations.
Q. Did it reduce the world population in anyway or what.
Q. Did vaccinations & immunizations help increase human population, in any way,
Q. Did Vaccinations cause any NEW permanent diseases on this earth, if Yes, Which.
Q. Why was Vaccination prepared in the first place and fo what.
Q. If there was no Vaccination / immunizations, WHAT could have happend to those diseases for which vaccinations were prepared, for example, polio, MMR, ....
Q. How much Human population could have been wiped out, in the absence of Vaccines.
Q. Has vaccinations helped humans in resisting many diseases or what.
Quote : " Anger is only one letter short of danger "
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
Nesha-India last decade
Hi,
Okay, here we go again, but this is it for me,
Nesha says : 1. My reasoning is not your reasoning. It should never be.
You are right, but I also think your medical reasons are slipping into your philosophical reasons.
Nesha says: 2. Regarding the Casein info and the data, I think you should arrange the experiment with your own resources to check the facts, instead on relying on other's peopls data (which would again be a source of doubtful debate). THAT would be more satisfying instead of getting spoon-fed. That would also mean different experiments on different animal proteins and soy, vegetable proteins ON all human species, race and blood types.
My point (although it may not be obvious) is that if YOU expect people to understand or accept your justifications, you should be more willing to explain and back up your data.
Have you YOURSELF performed these experiments and WHAT are your results? Or do you know of these experiments, and their results?
Is this YOUR THOERY on protein, or your others? Is it someone elses and you just happen to agree? Has it been PROVEN by ANYONE?
Nesha says: 6. Casein may remain or not remain in the G.I.Tract (ultimately over the period of time, it gets thrown out, due to other incoming food and fibers), BUT it is never broken down by any species or race of Human G.I.Tract. The G.I.Tract will react differently in sustaining, resisting, repelling or expelling it, all depending on energy level, diseases, environment and other stress related issues.
Is the protein of wheat protein and soy broken down? Do you have the proof that they are broken down completely and animal protein is not at all?
Nesha says: Population or Race pockets do not evolve. Race or blood group are only variational mutant genetic malfunctions leading to color, height & other body contour variations. That does not mean changes in the G.I.Tract structure of different Human races or blood groups.
If you think that population pockets do not evolve then kindly explain sickle-cell anemia. (for one example)
Here, let me help: Did you know that sickle cell anemia may be the result of a genetic mutation that happened in malaria-prone regions like Africa thousands of years ago? People with sickle cell trait may have been more likely to survive malaria epidemics - and because they survived when others did not, this allowed the trait to be passed down through generations.
NOW, let me repeat:
Genes are the portions of an organism's DNA that carry the code responsible for building that organism in a very SPECIFIC way. Genes -- and, thus, the traits they code for -- are passed from parent to offspring. From generation to generation, well-understood molecular mechanisms reshuffle, duplicate, and alter genes in a way that produces genetic variation. This variation is the raw material for evolution.
Okay, let's make up an experiment. We have (n) number of people with similarities, etc. They have all fasted for days drinking only same kind of water, as well as taken same number of same kind of enemas, you know, to clean everything out. Then, they all drink same amount of same kind of milk for same amount of time.
Then we wait for bowel movements as they fast again drinking only same kind of water.
Will these people all have same amount of protein and will it be the same number of proteins they ingested?
YOU are saying it is NEVER broken down in ANY one, so YOU should be able to show ME the results. And show them to anyone else, with pleasure. If not, you should say, I BELIEVE, or I THINK, not IT IS.
Nesha says: FOR A CHANGE, If Nesha-India may ask some questions. Please explain the following as you mentioned it in your last postings : No data or proof is required, just your perceptions (that's if you have the time) .
I find this game as humorous as sucking on a helium balloon.
I cant give you anything but my perception. Perceptions are all we have:
Q. Why the need for protein and for What and why not from vegetable source.
A. Amino acids for growth, tissue repair, to make hormones, enzymes, for energy. I never said NOT from a vegetable source.(?) Vegetables are the direct way to get protein, but this does not necessarily mean the only way.
Q. How will the G.I.Tract function, (or not function) if protein is not eaten.
A:The digestive system breaks it down to the constituent amino acids, which enter the body "pool" of amino acids. Each cell then assembles the proteins it needs using the building blocks available.
This is not my personal writing, although I agree The fact that we are omnivorous, that is, we can eat both meats and plants, has contributed to the survival of the human species. But as anthropologists have pointed out, human beings have overwhelmingly preferred meat to other foods. And a number of experts attribute the general good health, increased height, and longevity of people of developed countries today to their high-protein diets.
What you are asking about with walkin and his soy I explained in the previous post, you should re- read and more SLOWLY this time. (See how this doesnt get us anywhere, continuously putting up defenses instead of trying to learn from one another?) Nesha says: (Consider this from Nesha-India :
"Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people")
As far as vaccinations are concerned, no I do not think they saved us from anything. I think sanitation did. (There was no vaccine for typhoid fever and this drastically decreased along with the rest when people learned to clean themselves.) The rates of infectious disease were drastically declining way before the invention and use of vaccinations. The rate of polio virus actually increased in the 60s, due to the vaccine itself. The only way polio is spread now is because of vaccinations. Whooping cough, diphtheria, measles, and scarlet fever (which we also do not have a vaccination for) all were declining before the vaccines. Example: The death rate for whooping cough, from 1880 to 1935 declines in drastic increments just BEFORE the first vaccine was produced. Why dont we have a high incidence of scarlet fever or typhoid now, while there is still no vaccine? The theory of vaccinations is good, in practice, it sucks. Vaccines are half-cooked, age old grand-parent talk Your immune system is not only building antibodies to a disease. The process is more involved. This is why people who are vaccinated still are at risk for the disease they are vaccinated for. Example: There are were a couple of whooping cough infections in communities in the US recently where about 95% of those with whooping cough had been vaccinated.
I believe vaccines are ineffective because in reality, childhood infections are not caused by germs, but by the toxic conditions of the body. (In third world mostly because of malnourishment, impure water, poor sanitation, poverty, etc In more developed because of OVER consumption of animal foods, processed food, chemical additives in food and water, drugs, vaccines, pesticides, industrial poison, poor health, polluted breastmilk, nutritional deficiency, etc. Vaccines fail to address root causes and do nothing to remove toxicity, only adding more with additional chemicals, poisons, in vaccine itself. Vaccines are aimed at stimulating our immune system to fight off germs, when in reality the germs are feeding off the internal toxins (mutualistic symbiosis).
As for the rest of your questions, if you do not know the answers, there are plenty of black-hole sources to find any kind of information you would like, if you know where to look and how to check for validity.
I do give many thanks for your time and consideration on questions regarding my childs eczema. You did say yourself in not so many words, advice is something we ask when we already know the answers. I believe you could be a great healer, but you let your intelligence get in the way of your humanity. To me, humility is more virtuous than intelligence. You will never teach others when you do not know how to listen.
From Nesha: QUOTE : "You have to stop in order to change direction"
While our paths crossed for a reason, I would prefer to keep going. If you would like to teach others your truth, by all means. Thanks again.
Respectfully,
WNCGirl
Okay, here we go again, but this is it for me,
Nesha says : 1. My reasoning is not your reasoning. It should never be.
You are right, but I also think your medical reasons are slipping into your philosophical reasons.
Nesha says: 2. Regarding the Casein info and the data, I think you should arrange the experiment with your own resources to check the facts, instead on relying on other's peopls data (which would again be a source of doubtful debate). THAT would be more satisfying instead of getting spoon-fed. That would also mean different experiments on different animal proteins and soy, vegetable proteins ON all human species, race and blood types.
My point (although it may not be obvious) is that if YOU expect people to understand or accept your justifications, you should be more willing to explain and back up your data.
Have you YOURSELF performed these experiments and WHAT are your results? Or do you know of these experiments, and their results?
Is this YOUR THOERY on protein, or your others? Is it someone elses and you just happen to agree? Has it been PROVEN by ANYONE?
Nesha says: 6. Casein may remain or not remain in the G.I.Tract (ultimately over the period of time, it gets thrown out, due to other incoming food and fibers), BUT it is never broken down by any species or race of Human G.I.Tract. The G.I.Tract will react differently in sustaining, resisting, repelling or expelling it, all depending on energy level, diseases, environment and other stress related issues.
Is the protein of wheat protein and soy broken down? Do you have the proof that they are broken down completely and animal protein is not at all?
Nesha says: Population or Race pockets do not evolve. Race or blood group are only variational mutant genetic malfunctions leading to color, height & other body contour variations. That does not mean changes in the G.I.Tract structure of different Human races or blood groups.
If you think that population pockets do not evolve then kindly explain sickle-cell anemia. (for one example)
Here, let me help: Did you know that sickle cell anemia may be the result of a genetic mutation that happened in malaria-prone regions like Africa thousands of years ago? People with sickle cell trait may have been more likely to survive malaria epidemics - and because they survived when others did not, this allowed the trait to be passed down through generations.
NOW, let me repeat:
Genes are the portions of an organism's DNA that carry the code responsible for building that organism in a very SPECIFIC way. Genes -- and, thus, the traits they code for -- are passed from parent to offspring. From generation to generation, well-understood molecular mechanisms reshuffle, duplicate, and alter genes in a way that produces genetic variation. This variation is the raw material for evolution.
Okay, let's make up an experiment. We have (n) number of people with similarities, etc. They have all fasted for days drinking only same kind of water, as well as taken same number of same kind of enemas, you know, to clean everything out. Then, they all drink same amount of same kind of milk for same amount of time.
Then we wait for bowel movements as they fast again drinking only same kind of water.
Will these people all have same amount of protein and will it be the same number of proteins they ingested?
YOU are saying it is NEVER broken down in ANY one, so YOU should be able to show ME the results. And show them to anyone else, with pleasure. If not, you should say, I BELIEVE, or I THINK, not IT IS.
Nesha says: FOR A CHANGE, If Nesha-India may ask some questions. Please explain the following as you mentioned it in your last postings : No data or proof is required, just your perceptions (that's if you have the time) .
I find this game as humorous as sucking on a helium balloon.
I cant give you anything but my perception. Perceptions are all we have:
Q. Why the need for protein and for What and why not from vegetable source.
A. Amino acids for growth, tissue repair, to make hormones, enzymes, for energy. I never said NOT from a vegetable source.(?) Vegetables are the direct way to get protein, but this does not necessarily mean the only way.
Q. How will the G.I.Tract function, (or not function) if protein is not eaten.
A:The digestive system breaks it down to the constituent amino acids, which enter the body "pool" of amino acids. Each cell then assembles the proteins it needs using the building blocks available.
This is not my personal writing, although I agree The fact that we are omnivorous, that is, we can eat both meats and plants, has contributed to the survival of the human species. But as anthropologists have pointed out, human beings have overwhelmingly preferred meat to other foods. And a number of experts attribute the general good health, increased height, and longevity of people of developed countries today to their high-protein diets.
What you are asking about with walkin and his soy I explained in the previous post, you should re- read and more SLOWLY this time. (See how this doesnt get us anywhere, continuously putting up defenses instead of trying to learn from one another?) Nesha says: (Consider this from Nesha-India :
"Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people")
As far as vaccinations are concerned, no I do not think they saved us from anything. I think sanitation did. (There was no vaccine for typhoid fever and this drastically decreased along with the rest when people learned to clean themselves.) The rates of infectious disease were drastically declining way before the invention and use of vaccinations. The rate of polio virus actually increased in the 60s, due to the vaccine itself. The only way polio is spread now is because of vaccinations. Whooping cough, diphtheria, measles, and scarlet fever (which we also do not have a vaccination for) all were declining before the vaccines. Example: The death rate for whooping cough, from 1880 to 1935 declines in drastic increments just BEFORE the first vaccine was produced. Why dont we have a high incidence of scarlet fever or typhoid now, while there is still no vaccine? The theory of vaccinations is good, in practice, it sucks. Vaccines are half-cooked, age old grand-parent talk Your immune system is not only building antibodies to a disease. The process is more involved. This is why people who are vaccinated still are at risk for the disease they are vaccinated for. Example: There are were a couple of whooping cough infections in communities in the US recently where about 95% of those with whooping cough had been vaccinated.
I believe vaccines are ineffective because in reality, childhood infections are not caused by germs, but by the toxic conditions of the body. (In third world mostly because of malnourishment, impure water, poor sanitation, poverty, etc In more developed because of OVER consumption of animal foods, processed food, chemical additives in food and water, drugs, vaccines, pesticides, industrial poison, poor health, polluted breastmilk, nutritional deficiency, etc. Vaccines fail to address root causes and do nothing to remove toxicity, only adding more with additional chemicals, poisons, in vaccine itself. Vaccines are aimed at stimulating our immune system to fight off germs, when in reality the germs are feeding off the internal toxins (mutualistic symbiosis).
As for the rest of your questions, if you do not know the answers, there are plenty of black-hole sources to find any kind of information you would like, if you know where to look and how to check for validity.
I do give many thanks for your time and consideration on questions regarding my childs eczema. You did say yourself in not so many words, advice is something we ask when we already know the answers. I believe you could be a great healer, but you let your intelligence get in the way of your humanity. To me, humility is more virtuous than intelligence. You will never teach others when you do not know how to listen.
From Nesha: QUOTE : "You have to stop in order to change direction"
While our paths crossed for a reason, I would prefer to keep going. If you would like to teach others your truth, by all means. Thanks again.
Respectfully,
WNCGirl
WNCGirl last decade
"WINCGirl"
No hard-feelings, yet again.
Nesha-India, does not expect or wish you or anybody to learn anything from me. NEITHER I WISH TO TEACH YOU OR ANYBODY, ANYTHING.
The Milk article by Nesha-India, was only an explaination as perceived, experimented, researched by Nesha-India. Nesha-India does not ask or expect or wish you or anybody to stop drinking Animal fluids (Milk) and on the contrary, in the initial article, I said to "enjoy the thrill of drinking Animal Milk". Did I say anything about anybody getting taught by me or learn thru me. Take it or leave it - your choice. An open biased / un-biased discussion was invited by me in the initial post itself.
Most of your answers are questions pertaining to my experiments or abilities or researches. Nesha-India does never discuss or share my research work in general, nor Nesha-India discusses her own qualifications or experiences with anybody. By default, you are free to infer, what you are capable of thinking about Nesha-India's experiments, abilities & researches.
Please carry on your experiments with your own resources, check the results and if you wish, put it on the internet for ... . My good wishes are with you.
YOU said "I find this game as humorous as sucking on a helium balloon".
- This I do not understand, neither I will, just beyond my capacity.
YOU said "I cant give you anything but my perception. Perceptions are all we have"
- Here the explaination on Milk was my perception based on my research, selective parts of which I put it in the initial post (Milk Article).
Nesha-India, does not mix conviction & reasoning with intelligence or humanity. NOR I prejudice myself with reading hare-brained info on the Internet or go about validating info nor I reproduce someones elses any data from any Internet source (black hole). The professional libraries at the research centres is more than sufficient for all the data that is required. I do not understand or believe in philosphies to say "I BELIEVE, or I THINK, ". I say "IT IS" with conviction. based on my "OWN" research, which may seem biased to prejudiced minds.
Regarding "sickle-cell anemia", it has got nothing to do with evolution and neither will short-term experiments prove anything on such subjects, irrespective of different so called species. Quoting different quantity (number) of experimented subjects and then quoting percentages of so and so categories, is practised as a routine and is always a failure for long-term medical evaluation purposes.
Open up the body, what difference in anatomy would you have in these so called species. Do you expect the G.I.Tract anatomy (or any anatomy) shape & functioning to be different in these so called different species.
Regarding the "anthropologists have pointed out, human beings have overwhelmingly preferred meat to other foods".
- Did they say why ? Commonly, they couldn't. Here's why =
" IT is apparently the residual evolve'itionery ANIMAL INSTINCT URGE that's left in the Human gene, that urges or compels it to go ahead grabbing or jostling for Animal protien. Hence the constant human urge or desire or CRAVING to feed on Animal protien. "
Regarding "And a number of experts attribute the general good health, increased height, and longevity of people of developed countries today to their high-protein diets". These so called experts shamelessly & instable'ly change their expert opinions every year. High protein diets also increases estrogen and body acids. HIGH Protein diets have got nothing to do with "the general good health, increased height, and longevity". An non-protein diet or a low-protein-only-vegetarian diet is more than sufficient for the above, taking into examples vegetarian's of India, Tibet, China, ... where the average life-age is more than 85 years. Besides, Rest everything else dependent on lifestyle, exercises, atmosphere, physical and mental stress & strains .....
Most of the non-allopathic medical community & other medico amateur's will always habitually & ritually criticise & repell the Vaccination and Immunizations, with hare-brained justifications, blaming all the govt's of the world for the forced vacc & immu .., (the same govt, they voted & elected).
Normally, I do not listen. I observe and I reason the uncommon. THEN I listen to my own observations and reasonings. I do not allow humanity to get in the way of my medical reasonings.
Was I discussing "walkin" or was I pointing out to Soy Milk ?. Getting prejudiced or something ?
This time-consuming Solo discussion is concluded from Nesha-India's side. Unless there is anything else.
Nesha-India Quotes : " You cannot change your life by changing your life. You can only change your life if you change your thinking "
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
No hard-feelings, yet again.
Nesha-India, does not expect or wish you or anybody to learn anything from me. NEITHER I WISH TO TEACH YOU OR ANYBODY, ANYTHING.
The Milk article by Nesha-India, was only an explaination as perceived, experimented, researched by Nesha-India. Nesha-India does not ask or expect or wish you or anybody to stop drinking Animal fluids (Milk) and on the contrary, in the initial article, I said to "enjoy the thrill of drinking Animal Milk". Did I say anything about anybody getting taught by me or learn thru me. Take it or leave it - your choice. An open biased / un-biased discussion was invited by me in the initial post itself.
Most of your answers are questions pertaining to my experiments or abilities or researches. Nesha-India does never discuss or share my research work in general, nor Nesha-India discusses her own qualifications or experiences with anybody. By default, you are free to infer, what you are capable of thinking about Nesha-India's experiments, abilities & researches.
Please carry on your experiments with your own resources, check the results and if you wish, put it on the internet for ... . My good wishes are with you.
YOU said "I find this game as humorous as sucking on a helium balloon".
- This I do not understand, neither I will, just beyond my capacity.
YOU said "I cant give you anything but my perception. Perceptions are all we have"
- Here the explaination on Milk was my perception based on my research, selective parts of which I put it in the initial post (Milk Article).
Nesha-India, does not mix conviction & reasoning with intelligence or humanity. NOR I prejudice myself with reading hare-brained info on the Internet or go about validating info nor I reproduce someones elses any data from any Internet source (black hole). The professional libraries at the research centres is more than sufficient for all the data that is required. I do not understand or believe in philosphies to say "I BELIEVE, or I THINK, ". I say "IT IS" with conviction. based on my "OWN" research, which may seem biased to prejudiced minds.
Regarding "sickle-cell anemia", it has got nothing to do with evolution and neither will short-term experiments prove anything on such subjects, irrespective of different so called species. Quoting different quantity (number) of experimented subjects and then quoting percentages of so and so categories, is practised as a routine and is always a failure for long-term medical evaluation purposes.
Open up the body, what difference in anatomy would you have in these so called species. Do you expect the G.I.Tract anatomy (or any anatomy) shape & functioning to be different in these so called different species.
Regarding the "anthropologists have pointed out, human beings have overwhelmingly preferred meat to other foods".
- Did they say why ? Commonly, they couldn't. Here's why =
" IT is apparently the residual evolve'itionery ANIMAL INSTINCT URGE that's left in the Human gene, that urges or compels it to go ahead grabbing or jostling for Animal protien. Hence the constant human urge or desire or CRAVING to feed on Animal protien. "
Regarding "And a number of experts attribute the general good health, increased height, and longevity of people of developed countries today to their high-protein diets". These so called experts shamelessly & instable'ly change their expert opinions every year. High protein diets also increases estrogen and body acids. HIGH Protein diets have got nothing to do with "the general good health, increased height, and longevity". An non-protein diet or a low-protein-only-vegetarian diet is more than sufficient for the above, taking into examples vegetarian's of India, Tibet, China, ... where the average life-age is more than 85 years. Besides, Rest everything else dependent on lifestyle, exercises, atmosphere, physical and mental stress & strains .....
Most of the non-allopathic medical community & other medico amateur's will always habitually & ritually criticise & repell the Vaccination and Immunizations, with hare-brained justifications, blaming all the govt's of the world for the forced vacc & immu .., (the same govt, they voted & elected).
Normally, I do not listen. I observe and I reason the uncommon. THEN I listen to my own observations and reasonings. I do not allow humanity to get in the way of my medical reasonings.
Was I discussing "walkin" or was I pointing out to Soy Milk ?. Getting prejudiced or something ?
This time-consuming Solo discussion is concluded from Nesha-India's side. Unless there is anything else.
Nesha-India Quotes : " You cannot change your life by changing your life. You can only change your life if you change your thinking "
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
Nesha-India last decade
I changed my mind, YES there is something else.
Thank you for again for bringing this different light for attempted understanding.
I am attmepting to change my thinking. I keep going through belief and disbelief with everything I read and research myself. I do apologize for my behavior and harsh language in previous post. I was offended (not that offense was intended), just what I perceived. I said many things that were not NICE and completely uneccesary, and I apologize.
When reading and attempting to understand your points I do find it difficult sometimes and words get in the way.
In saying this, I don't really agree that HIGH protein is healthy. I do think though, that individuals will independently differ regarding exact needs.
I do agree that you are right about low-protein diet being better. I also don't think developed countries are generally healthy nor live long lives, like those of more vegetarian oriented countries. I only eat very very little (organic fed, antibiotic and steroid free) animal products, plenty of vegetables, whole grains, and fruits. I attribute my good health to a healthy balanced lifestyle, which does include exercise, clean atmosphere, stress reducing techniques, and because of the low protein, high vegetable and fruit, whole grain diet. (I was completely vegetarian for 5 years until now.) Also, on disease in general, do you relate it to the acidic conditions of the body?
I still don't get the evolution thing as seen by you. I do expect function COULD be different in anyone. I do expect this COULD be evolution. If it is, I truly don't know. I try to remember not to say never, or ever.
I don't agree with vaccinations the MAIN reason being because of what happened to my child, (it's personal). I think they could be made safe and they are not. The vaccine schedules are unsafe and many recommended vaccines are for illnesses that are not even dangerous. The vaccines are sometimes more harmful than the disease if you are healthy. Whether they are truly effective or not remains to be seen by me. Statistical death rates show they are not, but whom do you believe. I just follow my heart, I guess. I do believe if you are healthy and clean, you don't catch illnesses, diseases, and if you do, they are not fatal. Our government does not force vaccinations under this country's law, but when a new person comes into office (which is not completely controlled by me or voters), they all have different agendas. They use the scare tactic to vaccinate. I personally believe vaccines are used more for money than they are for health. Yes, this is my biased opinion, but this is the only way I can see it. This is the same reason countries use chemicals and pesticides for agriculture. The healthy way is too expensive for them, and this way they also get to offload waste into our food.
Again I am sorry for being harsh with my words in previous post. I have been practicing my stress-relieving techniques and Obviously, I do still have much to learn, (by people like you) I think you do teach well, it was me that chose not to listen. And sorry for my MOOD swings.
Peace,
WNCGirl
(Also, I wish you could research the possible theory of parasites attributing to disease and finding it not a "hair-brained" idea at all. It really makes alot sense when you read about it. The same way similars treating similars in homeopathy. It talks about energy [frequencies] particularly of one-celled organisms and actual parasites. All living things have certain frequencies of energy. This energy can be countered by retruning back the same energy frequency using low-voltage electricity. All I am saying is the theory makes sense, and many people can attest to its curative powers.) The healing powers of energy is the same reasons I also believe in homeopathy.
Thank you for again for bringing this different light for attempted understanding.
I am attmepting to change my thinking. I keep going through belief and disbelief with everything I read and research myself. I do apologize for my behavior and harsh language in previous post. I was offended (not that offense was intended), just what I perceived. I said many things that were not NICE and completely uneccesary, and I apologize.
When reading and attempting to understand your points I do find it difficult sometimes and words get in the way.
In saying this, I don't really agree that HIGH protein is healthy. I do think though, that individuals will independently differ regarding exact needs.
I do agree that you are right about low-protein diet being better. I also don't think developed countries are generally healthy nor live long lives, like those of more vegetarian oriented countries. I only eat very very little (organic fed, antibiotic and steroid free) animal products, plenty of vegetables, whole grains, and fruits. I attribute my good health to a healthy balanced lifestyle, which does include exercise, clean atmosphere, stress reducing techniques, and because of the low protein, high vegetable and fruit, whole grain diet. (I was completely vegetarian for 5 years until now.) Also, on disease in general, do you relate it to the acidic conditions of the body?
I still don't get the evolution thing as seen by you. I do expect function COULD be different in anyone. I do expect this COULD be evolution. If it is, I truly don't know. I try to remember not to say never, or ever.
I don't agree with vaccinations the MAIN reason being because of what happened to my child, (it's personal). I think they could be made safe and they are not. The vaccine schedules are unsafe and many recommended vaccines are for illnesses that are not even dangerous. The vaccines are sometimes more harmful than the disease if you are healthy. Whether they are truly effective or not remains to be seen by me. Statistical death rates show they are not, but whom do you believe. I just follow my heart, I guess. I do believe if you are healthy and clean, you don't catch illnesses, diseases, and if you do, they are not fatal. Our government does not force vaccinations under this country's law, but when a new person comes into office (which is not completely controlled by me or voters), they all have different agendas. They use the scare tactic to vaccinate. I personally believe vaccines are used more for money than they are for health. Yes, this is my biased opinion, but this is the only way I can see it. This is the same reason countries use chemicals and pesticides for agriculture. The healthy way is too expensive for them, and this way they also get to offload waste into our food.
Again I am sorry for being harsh with my words in previous post. I have been practicing my stress-relieving techniques and Obviously, I do still have much to learn, (by people like you) I think you do teach well, it was me that chose not to listen. And sorry for my MOOD swings.
Peace,
WNCGirl
(Also, I wish you could research the possible theory of parasites attributing to disease and finding it not a "hair-brained" idea at all. It really makes alot sense when you read about it. The same way similars treating similars in homeopathy. It talks about energy [frequencies] particularly of one-celled organisms and actual parasites. All living things have certain frequencies of energy. This energy can be countered by retruning back the same energy frequency using low-voltage electricity. All I am saying is the theory makes sense, and many people can attest to its curative powers.) The healing powers of energy is the same reasons I also believe in homeopathy.
WNCGirl last decade
Sorry, correction: I was completely vegetarian for 5 years, until now - I mean since the last 3 years and even now my consumption of animal product is very little.
WNCGirl last decade
Additional info for Animal Milk Abusers :
Milk Lactose which remains undigested and is NOT converted into Glucose (Glucose is ultimately released into the blood stream). This happens because there is no-availability of a enzyme called LACTASE, simply because the human body does not produce Lactase after approx. 40 months of age.
Deliberately consuming oral Lactase enzyme (tablets or liquid form), is literally useless in helping to digest lactose (Animal Milk) and on the contrary adds to making the person more and more sensitive to being Lactose intolerant, in the long term.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TO LACTOSE :
Undigested Lactose is fermented MORE FASTER by bacteria in the colon AND creates Lactic Acid and other short-chain fatty acids (This can be detected in a stool sample). THIS creates an rapidly increasing Acidic atmosphere in the entire Gastro Intestional Tract (G.I.Tract) . An INAPPROPRIATE ACIDIC atmosphere in the G.I.Tract straightaway means compromising digestive sequences leading to diseases like High Blood pressure, Arthirities, Diabetes ....
ANYWAY, please keep on consuming animal milk, with Nesha-India's compliments. The Milk & allied industries (chocolates, ice-creams, .... TOO have to be supported of their multi billion dollar businesses)
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
Milk Lactose which remains undigested and is NOT converted into Glucose (Glucose is ultimately released into the blood stream). This happens because there is no-availability of a enzyme called LACTASE, simply because the human body does not produce Lactase after approx. 40 months of age.
Deliberately consuming oral Lactase enzyme (tablets or liquid form), is literally useless in helping to digest lactose (Animal Milk) and on the contrary adds to making the person more and more sensitive to being Lactose intolerant, in the long term.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TO LACTOSE :
Undigested Lactose is fermented MORE FASTER by bacteria in the colon AND creates Lactic Acid and other short-chain fatty acids (This can be detected in a stool sample). THIS creates an rapidly increasing Acidic atmosphere in the entire Gastro Intestional Tract (G.I.Tract) . An INAPPROPRIATE ACIDIC atmosphere in the G.I.Tract straightaway means compromising digestive sequences leading to diseases like High Blood pressure, Arthirities, Diabetes ....
ANYWAY, please keep on consuming animal milk, with Nesha-India's compliments. The Milk & allied industries (chocolates, ice-creams, .... TOO have to be supported of their multi billion dollar businesses)
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
Nesha-India last decade
PROPAGANDA ?
So be it. What / How / Who does it matter to.
To the unprofessional and unqualified Homeopath / medico's (Q U A C Ks), medical technical analysis seems as ' PROPAGANDA '. That's OBIVIOUS.
ANYWAY, here's further for Animal Milk Abusers :
Animal Milk & Milk products make a greater contribution to osteoporosis, kidney problems, and certain forms of cancers. In addition, dairy products are the leading culprit in food allergies. And low-fat varieties are actually more allergenic due to higher protein concentration. Animal Milk cause a myraid of problems within the small intestines by interfering with intestinal permeability, thereby allowing large fragments of proteins to enter into the blood stream. This is also known as 'leaky gut syndrome'. This can lead to a host of physical problems, including irritable bowel syndrome, malabsorption of nutrients, obesity and mineral and amino acid deficiencies.
QUOTE : 'Chaos demands to be recognized and experienced before letting itself be converted into a new order'
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
So be it. What / How / Who does it matter to.
To the unprofessional and unqualified Homeopath / medico's (Q U A C Ks), medical technical analysis seems as ' PROPAGANDA '. That's OBIVIOUS.
ANYWAY, here's further for Animal Milk Abusers :
Animal Milk & Milk products make a greater contribution to osteoporosis, kidney problems, and certain forms of cancers. In addition, dairy products are the leading culprit in food allergies. And low-fat varieties are actually more allergenic due to higher protein concentration. Animal Milk cause a myraid of problems within the small intestines by interfering with intestinal permeability, thereby allowing large fragments of proteins to enter into the blood stream. This is also known as 'leaky gut syndrome'. This can lead to a host of physical problems, including irritable bowel syndrome, malabsorption of nutrients, obesity and mineral and amino acid deficiencies.
QUOTE : 'Chaos demands to be recognized and experienced before letting itself be converted into a new order'
Remain Healthy & Happy ....... Nesha-India
Nesha-India last decade
Hello Nesha
Really enjoy reading what you wrote about milk.
Sorry there are still grown adults who haven't outgrown drinking milk.
I gave it up many years ago although I was completely addicted to it because it was making me very, very sick.
I guess a simple statement such as: Milk is for baby cows isn't enough.
But then there are people out there who believe that certain blood types benefit from it.
Thank you for sharing.
Really enjoy reading what you wrote about milk.
Sorry there are still grown adults who haven't outgrown drinking milk.
I gave it up many years ago although I was completely addicted to it because it was making me very, very sick.
I guess a simple statement such as: Milk is for baby cows isn't enough.
But then there are people out there who believe that certain blood types benefit from it.
Thank you for sharing.
Pat2006 last decade
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