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Dear Centive,

One always has to rule out the Physical first.
Are you doing repetitive motions via the computer screen, sleeping without
neck support, looking down many times a day at the phone, reading in bed!
having a laptop or ipad?

The above will do things to your neck and upper spine or even lower spine-
Nerve sensations can be off an on and feel very, very strange.

So what is going on with your general health?? what kinds of things are you
taking, and do you have any of the above habits? Even things like teeth,wisdom
teeth or a molar going bad are connected to these same nerves-and sensations can come
on and then go off because a tooth is having a problem.

The first thing one has to do is get the Cause right. Have you ever
had a acupressure or shiatsu massage or acupuncture?


The way to look at it: you are having a nerve sensation on your neck.

This can be physical due to repetitive motion or some other cause
like lack of exercise limiting blood flow to muscles etc or teeth problems,
etc.

Even if this is from stress, which will tighten muscles, the answer
is to get the area muscles and nerves flowing right, then you
won't have the sensation.

Getting stressed out when it happens makes muscles and blood flow
worse naturally adding to the problem.

Phosphorus helps with nerves. Shiatsu, acupressure massage open
the flow on the spine and neck and strengthen it. Acupuncture can
do the same thing.
[message edited by simone717 on Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:01:48 UTC]
 
simone717 8 years ago
Hi Simon :)

Hmmmm, yes i indeed have weird sitting posture and i often sit on the floor and use my laptop on the coffee table often. i don't really sleep with pillow, i mean at time i will sleep on the bed itself and hug my pillow sometime i will use it sometime i don't. I at times always sleep at my living room sofa and lean my head against the armrest to sleep. well i do not know if this is causing my issue but i doubt so because it will be painful and aching instead of what i am facing now.

General health recently had afew changes. I realised that i can never focus on my environment and others. Like i am on 20% sleep mode, or the state when u are drunk. It is what i am facing now, everything i do, i see just feels like i am in a drunk state because i drink quite often and get high and drunk often, so i roughly understand the feeling.

Nope, i never been to acupressure or shiatsu massage or acupuncture.

i also do hope that it is what u feel. But well, i won't be having much hope too. Just hope god is with me and bless me.

Yeah i understand your logic of not ruling out the physical first and i am really hoping it is so.

But well, worst come to worst if it's ocd then i really do not know what to do. I really do not know. but some people said sensory ocd if people have it they won't only affect neck area, like it will affect everything, like at time they will focus on their blinking, at time will be breathing, at time will be heartbeat. But well, i may be the unique one.
 
centive10 8 years ago
The spine has nerves coming out that affect the skin-
the skin has an actual grid called dermatomes, each
dermatome affects an area of skin and
has a nerve from the spine that runs
that dermatome area.

And yes, leaning your head on the arm rest to sleep,
using the lap top on the coffee table, over time will
suddenly start up strange nerve sensations- it does not
have to be all over aching or anything like that.

Like I said two times before- this is blocked nerve flow-
nerve pain gives odd sensations, twitching, feeling numb,
tingling, little shocks, or things you cannot describe very
well in words.

Try the remedy- see how that works. Then if you get
acupuncture they take organ pulses thru the wrists, they
can tell you in 5 minutes what areas are not flowing and
then treat it.

Obviously, the area is having blocked nerves, so if you
try the remedy and acupuncture, and then go try
shiatsu or acupressure by a trained person you will
find the answer.

Good luck.
[message edited by simone717 on Mon, 24 Aug 2015 02:59:46 UTC]
 
simone717 8 years ago
Thank you simon for your information. I really appreciate the effort you spend to reply :)

My problem now is if i go to a homeopathy clinic, let's just say if they can't sell me phosphorus. Then how? Yes i know it can be weird but i do not know if the master for acupuncture and shiatsu will understand my problem as i feel it's kind of rare since i have not hear any of this case. Well, i don't know what to feel now.

But do you think it is ocd or highly it got to do with nerves and physical issues?
 
centive10 8 years ago
1.If they won't sell you phosphorus? Then order it from
Helios homeopathic Pharm in Uk, or order from
Newtons in Sydney.

2.Your problem is not rare.
Regular Md's would have you get an xray or MRI to see
if there is Cervical spondylitis or a disc degeneration
or out of alignment disc in the neck/upper back. And you could
also go to a Chiropractor, who will do Xray and then manipulate the
bones of the spine so the normal flow is restored. And you can go
An DO instead of an MD and they are the same except the DO will do
some manipulations to restore flow as they are trained to work the body
parts in addition to regular medical training.

3. Shiatsu or Acupressure will work relaxing the
muscles along the spine and that will increase blood flow
and free up the nerves in that area. You can tell after
one time if it is better and then you just get a few more
massages and you Must change your habits so it does
not go on again.

4. People can have OCD without any physical symptoms,
normal OCD is repetitive behavior- like counting to a
certain number, taking a certain amount of steps,
washing hand a certain amount- illogical, but they
have general anxiety from previous events, and they
do the behavior to calm themselves.

5. You have a physical thing going on-the nerves in
the area are blocking off and on. It is not rare, people
can get away with the bad habits for some time and
then they get things like this and you have to pay
attention and get things working right and then
change what you do.
[message edited by simone717 on Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:05:04 UTC]
 
simone717 8 years ago
Hi simone

Hope you are doing well!

Well, everyday is just a day to me, i mean for first 2 weeks of this issue, i was like someone who is mentally unstable, but now i now calm and just carry my daily task with this issue with no anxiety nor nervousness nor unwanted thoughts. So i do not think i will have any depression or anxiety since i do not feel it at all other than having this issue.

Well simone, the ocd i talked about is sensorimotor ocd. i also dont wish to label myself as one but it's like i feel like i am one. i mean i can't help it but to think. But i read online almost everyone would focus on their blinking, swallowing, breathing and heartbeat. noone had any physical issue like mine with shirt.

Thank you simone for all the information, as i am working on weekdays, i can only go and see what you recommend during the weekend and at the same time i will call clinics to ask if i can buy the remedy from them. Anyway can u take my case and help me find and solve this problems :( .

I am really scared right now. scared that nothing will help me.
 
centive10 8 years ago
Antivirus prescribed the phosphorus for you. Please get it and then
report to him on results.

Do not google any more ocd or whatever you have been doing, you do
not have enough information about diagnosing yourself for physical
or mental things, and when people start googling they all start to
scare themselves and create anxiety.

The fear that nothing will help you is just fear that has no BASIS in
fact. It is part of anxiety, and it is not reality. So when you have that thought,
dismiss it, distract yourself with something else, and even talk back to
the thought-tell it to shut up it is wrong.

I have already listed many things that can help you -and I know for sure
they can help you- so it is kind of like you are saying there won't be
anywhere to buy food and I keep telling you there are four grocery stores
near your house and you keep saying there is nowhere to buy food.

Stop listening to that thought. The cloth shirt is stimulating your nerves- either
way it is physical nerves and once they work right then there won't
be a problem.
Also , please figure out if this has gone on after wearing new type of shirts that
you have not worn previously. Or if you have switched laundry detergent types.
Sometimes, even shirts that are 100 percent cotton can irritate the skin, so
if you know this started after wearing new shirts, then stop wearing them and
see what happens. And also laundry detergents that have scent in them or bleach,
can start to have effects on skin over time-check out both these things.
[message edited by simone717 on Tue, 25 Aug 2015 19:06:20 UTC]
 
simone717 8 years ago
Hi Simone

Thank you for your advice.

I will visit one to do acupuncture this weekend but what do I tell the doctor instead of me trying to tell him my story like its might confuse him and stuff.

Well I am still skeptical but I hope what you say is true and I will be alright. I really do hope haha.

Regarding shirts, I did not wear any new shirt. All shirt are wore for some time already so that can be rule out!
 
centive10 8 years ago
I am not sure if you only had this sensation -

Other times also

When I re read your original statement:

"discomfort around my neck,shirt and collar. I guess it's from the button up shirt that i wore that was tight and i was wearing draw string bag and the collar was in a weird position. That was when i start noticing the sensation. It was beyond my control. But it only lasted during train rides to work for the first week. I did not have the uncontrolled sensation any other time."

Yes the above can happen because of the collar position, shirt being too tight,
AND the draw string bag

The draw string bag is similar to women using those type purses here in usa,
and it is a COMMON thing for people to have numbness, strange sensations
after using some types of purses- Why? because it cuts off circulation to the muscles
and nerves. The wrong collar position and shirt too tight will do the same.

Tell the acupuncturist what happened ( the above)
And that you read on it and can't stop thinking you have some disease even
tho it has been explained why this happened. That you need treatment for
Anxiety. They will treat your overactive mind and probably give you herbs
to relax you.

Good luck.
[message edited by simone717 on Wed, 26 Aug 2015 17:31:18 UTC]
 
simone717 8 years ago
Ok simone.

Just to ask, do you think it is a rush to see one? i am thinking of seeing tomorrow or over the weekend. What's your suggestion?

I will try my best to explain to them but i scared they wouldn't know what to do. haha

Anyway i dont think i have anxiety that make me think i have alot of illness sickness. the reason why i search so much is because of this issue. But i will still request for herbs to calm my mind!

Simone, do you think they can help me in a way this can go away completely?
 
centive10 8 years ago
Yes, I know it can go away completely.

Part of your anxiety is a specific fear
that you cannot be cured. That is a lie.
It is what is called " What if" thinking
which can be a habit. This habit is a
vicious cycle that leads to stress chemicals being released in your body,
and that leads to more "What if".

You do two things. One: the acupuncturist can tell by taking
your organ pulses what is out of balance in your body/nervous
system. When the body/mind runs right then it will be hard
to do this type of thinking.

Two. However, you must also work on not doing "What if"-
"what if" is always in the future, so if you find yourself in
the future thinking anxiously, what if is going on. It can be
very, very subtle. Bring yourself back to the moment and get
busy with something. You have to work at it. It takes around
3 weeks to break a habit.

This is not an emergency and you simply need to start on
a path to get acquainted on how all these healing modalities work
for you and then you will start to relax.
[message edited by simone717 on Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:50:06 UTC]
 
simone717 8 years ago
Simone, so you are pretty sure it has something to do with nerve? like not mental problem?
 
centive10 8 years ago
Hi Centive,

The body/mind works together.

If one gets extra stressed ( new job for you) it affects the
nervous system and stress chemicals get released, which
make you more nervous.

The more nervous you get, your thinking gets negative.

The same thing goes on with drinking and getting high
off of whatever. People don't feel good after a night of
doing that, it affects your liver and blood, and you wake
up feeling out there. This puts you under strain when you
are trying to do basically anything. The stress then helps
more stress chemicals go out and affect your nerves and
thoughts.

A lot of people are sensitive people. You are sensitive.
Nothing wrong with that but you have to know yourself.
For example, some can watch horror movies at night and
laugh. Others will have bad dreams and be upset for days.

You have to maintain your "vehicle" regular sleep, good food,
exercise, etc. Acupuncture looks at things holistically, the stressed
out body will cause stressed out thinking, fix one and the other one
comes back online.
 
simone717 8 years ago
Hi Simone.

I just went to see a tcm that do acupuncture. I told him my issues and he didn't know what to do. He told me it's not even a disease how I know where to put the needle to. I don't doubt him because he has over 20 years of experience and there's two tcm physician there listening to me. He say might be muscle too tight and gave me pills and things to drink. But I highly doubt it would help because he is just guessing. Well I think I am hopeless now. No body understand how I feel. No one can help.
 
centive10 8 years ago
Did he take your pulses on your wrists?

I don't know what goes on with some of them and
their training. I have done acupuncture here in usa
and had others go to the acupuncturist ( asian americans
acupuncturists and other nationalities for anxiety)

They all knew what to do. And there are hundreds of
chinese herbs for this, just like ayurvedic systems of
herbs only they prescribe based on different systems.

I do know one person in usa who went to acupuncture
group that treats Middle Eastern Royalty when they
come over here with illness. And that person said,
those acupuncturists did not understand anxiety,
and kept asking the person why they were anxious,
when it was obvious Why-needless to say they did
not know what to do which was very odd.

American psychiatrists often tell patients here to
use acupuncture for anxiety.

Order the phosphorus then, and use homeopathy- it is in no way hopeless.
 
simone717 8 years ago
Yes he took my pulse. He told me it would be better trying out medicine. So he gave me a bottle of tcm and tcm pills to eat for 4 days. Well I am starting it Tomorrow but I do not have high hope it would help!

As each day passes I become weaker and weaker.

Simone, I know u don't think this is hopeless.

But to me living with it and knowing currently nothing have helped me really make me feel sad. I mean I would rather be like etc neck pain, I simply go acupuncture or massage and it will be fine, after each session the pain is lesser, the happiness is there. But for me, it's like everyday wake up same old same old same issue. Nothing changed. It's like idk what's wrong with me.
 
centive10 8 years ago
What do you mean you become weaker and weaker?

Physically? then what are those symptoms?

If you want to use homeopathic treatment you have
to order what Antivirus prescribed and start.So please
order that today so you have it if the tcm meds do nothing.
 
simone717 8 years ago
I mean mentally I am getting weaker and weaker each day. Because I tell myself it will get better but after each day it is still the same. There is disappointment and I just feel sad
 
centive10 8 years ago
All I can say is order the remedy and start.
[message edited by simone717 on Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:48:41 UTC]
 
simone717 8 years ago
Hi simone

I really do not know what to feel and expect now.

I mean you got to understand how one will feel out of sudden having this issue, not knowing why it is there. Not knowing what to do. It make me feel like i am having incurable disease. I mean like you will say otherwise. But really think about it, i have lost hope of being normal again after trying many ways to find answer. Yes i believe homeopathy can do wonders. But i am really in doubt if it could help me at all. I did a search of people having odd sensation and alot reported they had went to GP but GP told them they were fine and nothing is wrong with them. All i feel is like them right now. I really hope if i go and see one one would say yes i know what happened. I would be happy to hear at least people know what it is and i will be much happier knowing what's wrong with me.

Well, all i see now is hopeless, fighting mentally each day and see which day i will give up on life.

Anyway simone

you are pretty sure it is not some mental illness like ocd? I mean base on your opinion

But in terms of physical issues, i do not even know how they can treat me when they don't even know what it is.
 
centive10 8 years ago
Homeopathy works on your body and mind plse get the remedy.
 
simone717 8 years ago
Hi simone

I am waiting for the remedy to come but mean while i did not care much about this neck issue but i was thinking these few days could it be something like tumor on the brain or spinal cord? because ever since this issue, i realised my vision isn't that good like blurred, i have headaches everyday and most of the time and i am unable to concentrate. I also came across some saying it will affect automatic nervous system. so i am thinking about can this issue be counted as automatic nervous system.
 
centive10 8 years ago
Dear Centive,

I suggest that you do not go research symptoms as it is needless worry for
nothing and just adds to anxiety.It is
well known that looking up even simple
things on the internet leads people to
think they could possibly have what
you mentioned.

The correct thing to do :
Always get the physical facts from the Md.
If you are anxious your body blood flow
and nerve flow are constricted which
could cause these symptoms.
This could also be from neck vertebrae
constriction due to repetitive motions
of wrong posture. This cramps up nerve flow to the head, eyes, and so on.

It also makes nerves have very strange
sensations off and on- think of it like
wiring in your house where a wire is
knotted up or blocked.

Go to the dr. and ask about these symptoms and then you will have facts
and dismiss these thoughts.
 
simone717 8 years ago
Hi Simone.

Thanks for your response. I really appreciate it a lot.

For me I am not self diagnosing, I just doing some research. But don't worry I am not stress out about it.

I just went to see a GP and got referred to see a neurologist.

But for me I do not place the neck sensation as the main problem.

My symptoms:

Altered neck sensation
Persistent headache
Hearing softer than usual
Vision not as clear as before.

That's all. I am not trying to scare myself or what, just trying to check why am I having all these symptoms.
 
centive10 8 years ago
Very good, and right thing to do.

Just keep in mind the spine is like
the electric system of a house. If
anything is compressed, or being
pulled by tight muscles the system
won't run right- it is connected to every
organ, nerve, muscle system in the body.

That is why it is so important to sleep
in correct positions with neck support,
stop repetitive motions, and exercise
at least half hour a day, do not sit
for more than 30 minutes without
getting up and moving around.
 
simone717 8 years ago
Thanks Simone

Based on what I said throughout and base on your experience. What do you think it highly might be?
 
centive10 8 years ago

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