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Respected David,
There are retail suppliers in USA who can bring Cannabis indica from outside USA. But get permissions to bring remedies from specific companies. One company said they have no account with REMEDIA HOMEOPATHY, AUSTRIA. But there is another company ainsworths, uk. ainsworths sells cannabis indica LM 4, LM 10 and no other LMs. They also sell 30c. What potency should I try to get? You can check ainsworths website if you want. This retail supplier said they can get me remedies from ainsworths. Please answer asap regarding your potency selection (LM4 OR LM10 OR 30C). I am suffering from symptoms.
Thank you.
Your Patient
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Repected David,
This is Bapi. Who was prescribed Cannabis Indica 30C. I was asked to take one dosage and report after 3 days. Report : No aggravation no improvement so far. We also bought Cannabis Indica LM 4, 30C, 200C. What remedy to take next.
I do not believe in suggesting potency to my respected doctor/homeopath. My wife who takes trifluoperazine (stelazine) for her psychosis requested about 200c in her post. I am extremely unhappy with her about it.
I, as a patient like to explain my health problem, take remedy as prescribed by my homeopath and report the effect of remedy to my homeopath.
My family is taking classical homeopathy for 4 generations. I know the homeopathy culture, meaning how to report to a homeopath. My wife knew about classical homeopathy only when a homeopath cured some problems our son had. I apologise for her ignorance.
Dear David my father says there were great homeopaths in 1950s and 1960s in Calcutta, Westbengal, India now no good docs are there in my city where I was born. Netai charan chakravarty homoeopathic medical college is existing in my dad's grandfather's name. So sad homeopathy is disappearing from my city. Okay ..I have great for you. hope to get cured with your remedies.
Best regards.
Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Alright it appears you do not have any oversensitivity towards the medicine. Take 3 more doses, however please hit the bottle 10 times before each dose. Stop immediately if there appears to be any aggravation in your symptoms or general state.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Respected David,
3 more dosage once everyday?
For example once on Monday, next on Tuesday, last dosage on Wednesday this way?
Please mention the time interval between these three dosage.
Will wait for your answer.
Thank you.
Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
One dose a day, unless I specifically say otherwise. That is usually the normal dosage regime. I might alter that at times, but would always state that I am altering it.

Obviously you need to watch for any worsening prior to taking the next dose. If that appears to happen stop and let me know.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Hello David,

Merry Christmas.

Dec 25th, 2014 evening

1. Why posting : Possible aggravation after 1 dosage. Instruction was to take 3 dosage in 3 days.

2. What kind of aggravation : Stinging sensation at around 2pm for about 1 and half hours on DEc 25th. It started when I got up from 2 hours sleep. Actually my sleep was disrupted because my wife was arguing with my son very loudly. Last night I could not sleep because on Dec 24th evening I slept for approximately 3 hours. Usually if I sleep in the evening I can not sleep at night.

3. How severe was the aggravation : It was mild. Lasted for 1 hour and 30 minutes, symptoms disappeared without taking any medication.

4. How do I know it is aggravation : This stinging sensation from inside in my limbs, tummy, chest, back, under ear lobe, behind eyes never came before in the last 17 years of the history of disease. Stinging sensation was little more strong on "inside the eye" and "under the ear lobe area" not on the ear though. This stinging sensation is not in the list of "benzo withdrawal symptoms"

5. Can the symptom come from dosage missed of clonazepam or more dosage required because of extra stress : Answer is No. I did not take any extra stress. If I miss or forget to take a dosage of clonazepam the 1st symptoms are always a) headache b) dizzyness (not vertigo) c) faint feeling

6. Is there any chance any insect bite me or is this a result of food allergy :
Answer is No; Condition of our house is extremely good, no insects. It is not food allergy because I took food 12 hours before taking remedy. Usually food allergy shows up quicker.

7. Why few days ago when I took same Cannabis Indica 30c remedy there was no stinging sensation that I calling aggravation : a) Previously few days ago I tapped 5 times, mixed 3 drops ( by mistake 1 extra drop fell) with 100 ml of gerber baby water. Gerber water comes with added salt for taste. b) This time on Dec 25th I was asked to tap 10 times and got 2 drops from the bottle mixed with 100 ml of distilled water.

8. Why am I writing my report in so much details : Because I want my homeopath to decide if this was aggravation.

Thank you. Will wait for your next instruction
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Additional info : Stinging sensation started 5 hours after I took remedy today. Details in the previous post
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Sorry for this post here but i need evocationer help in my daughters case pls
i posted a thread for him
the link is

www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/458017/
 
Maleeha 9 years ago
Dear David,
Cannabis Indica 30c 1st dosage after possible aggravation
gave relief for 5 days which was refected in less
requirement of allopathy anxiety medicine after that remedy action wore off,
what remedy to take next. Please continue it is working.
Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Dear David,

Happy New Year!!!!!

I hope you had a great holiday!!

I have very good news.

I have been suffering for the past 17 years.

This is the first time, I see that I can be cured.

I took only one dose of CI 30c.

After this, I have reduced my Clonazepam intake from 3 doses per day to 2 doses once a day.

This is remarkable. This is just unbelievable and it is beyond the universe.

You are just great!

THis is 10 day report, with only one dose of Cannabis Indica after a mild aggravation.

I have taken only one dose, so far.

Please let me know what I should take next.

I am awaiting your response.

There is light after 17 years of pain and suffering!!!

I have no words to express my gratitude.

I lost my youth, middle age, career and family's respect because of my illness.

You are the only person who can rescue me.

May all the Gods shower great blessings on you and your family

Please let me know

YogiRam
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Alright this is good, but I saw on another post that there had been a relapse? What is your current state?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Dear David,
So nice to see you posting after a long wait. I really need your help.

Report after 12 days : Cannabis Indica worked brilliantly.

My goal : My goal is to keep the effect of Cannabis Indica while I am trying to taper clonazepam. I have Cannabis Indica 30c, 200c, LM4 purchased from Helios, UK. Your are a brilliant homeopath David. We need victory in each and every stage of this taper. Be with me David. I get back my health only if I taper clonazepam to zero.

Why I had to take 2nd dosage of Cannabis Indica 30c :
Cannabis Indica 30c first dosage action stayed for 12 days. After 12 days the action of Cannabis Indica 30c 1st dosage action wore off.
I was desperately trying to get in touch with you. When I could not get in touch with you I used 2nd Cannabis Indica 30c dosage and am trying to survive in two dosage of clonazepam per day.

Twelve days ago before taking Cannabis Indica 30c I was taking three dosage of clonazepam everyday. For the last 12 days I am taking two dosage of clonazepam everyday.

Let us say 3x mgs tapered to 2x mgs dosage for the last 12 days. This is an effort of 33% reduction but later it has to be slow.

What next : Should I know what potency of Cannabis Indica I have to take next. Also please tell me if I need to buy other potencies as it takes a month or more to get remedies from Helios. Cannabis Indica 12c or higher and Cannabis Indica LM4 or higher can be purchased. Lower potencies than Cannabis Indica 12c or LM4 can not be obtained.

Challenge ahead of me :
Current Maintainance of 2x mgs / day. Try to taper more from 2x mgs / day. Ultimately zero mgs/ days and staying in zero mgs / day. I can do this only if
I get continuous help from homeopathy remedies.

Your are a brilliant homeopath David. We need victory in every stage of this taper. Be with me David. Nobody but you have the understanding and knowledge to help me. We have to deal with protracted withdrawal symptoms if it shows up.

Thank you.

Yogiram / bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
It was quite appropriate for you to take another dose of 30c based on your situation. I am happy with that.

It is quite likely this will be a long process. I wouldn't want to move from 30c for the moment until we are sure it is no longer working.

I am still not sure what has come from this second dose though? Did you get the same good result as the first?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Dear David,
It is only 40 hours now I took the 2nd dosage, and it worked right way.
2nd dosage was followed by very brief stinging sensation (sign of aggravation). This time stinging sensation was only on hands and only for around less than 10 minutes. Previous time after 1st dosage stinging sensation was one and half hour and it was all over my body.
1st dosage was prepared my 10 taps of original source remedy, 2 drops in 100 ml water. 2 teaspoon full from the mix.
2nd dosage was prepared by 11 taps of source remedy, 3 drops (extra drop fell in 100 water by accident), administration of two teaspoon from there.
Thank for being with me. Your posting gives tremendous confidence to go forward.
Okay lets fight together against this evil medication.
Seems to me.. WE WILL WIN.
Best regards.
Yogiram / bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Well it is nice to see how positive you are feeling now. Since the second dose has only just been recently taken, we will need to wait until a full week (7 days) has passed. Then we can have a loot at what is happening.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Dearest David,
You are the greatest!!!

You are the only Homeopath who could stop the devil, Clonazepam!!!

I have been watching your thread for a long time and I told my husband quite a few years ago to post to you!!! As usual, he never listened to me!!

I am always right and I can feel it!!!

My husband was worried that you were not posting and I told him that you would get back to us and you would post!!!

You are brilliant!!!

You are the Super Man!!!

Now we need to fix me!!!

I send all the love in the Universe to you!!!

May all your dreams come true!!!

LovePeace
 
yogiram 9 years ago
By the way, you are a genius!!!

But I need to pat on my back because I asked you not to deal with my husband's case as a regular homepthy case but as a withdrawal case!!!

:)

LovePeace
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Dear David,

I am not part of the two posts LovePeace made from her work today. LovePeace is my wife. She does not know intricate details of our effort.

I was looking at different sources, none of the literature reports 33% decrease effort in the first step. We should remember none of these clinical trial and research have support from classical homeopathy for patients.

I am kinda scared. I am not scared of tapering just scared of first effort of % decrease I attempted, it is too large.

I have seen when I took the remedy Cannabis Indica 30c in the initial days I am extremely comfortable even after 14 hours of one clonazepam dosage. I am taking twice such clonazepam dosage per day.

After 13/14 days of C I 30c intake it is hard to handle my stress anxiety discomfort after 11 hrs of taking clonazepam. That is the time I decided for the 2nd dosage of C I 30c.

Actually I am trying to make a point here. My point is I want to be in maximum protection in the third and fourth week of this taper(next 14 days). I suspect some delayed withdrawal symptom can hurt me because my 33% decrease is too large if I consider the trials and research studies.

Well! Can I ask you David if I can take Cannabis Indica 30c more frequently to have stronger protection from withdrawal symptoms.

I have muscle pain of body and back of the eye pain at this moment, which is considered as mild withdrawal symptoms.

Hanging on to this 33% cut with the same dosage of clonazepam is a huge initial victory. But we care for the ultimate victory not this immediate huge victory.

Actually I am trying to indicate next 14 days is crucial. If I can not handle probable withdrawal symptoms that might come up I have to updose (meaning increase) clonazepam dosage.

Prof Heather Aston's Benzo taper schedule 3 dosage per day, I guess that is because clonazepam has only 18 hours half life. Stress withdrawal level is equally distributed during the day this way. I have to somehow switch from 2 dosage per day to three dosage per day keeping the total dosage same per day.

I will tell you later why initiaIly I decided to take twice a day not thrice a day.

I should also mention everytime I prepare and administer remedy it might not help same number of days. May be state of body n mind is different everytime, maybe preparation of remedy is slightly different each time. But it is hard to get a consistent pattern. I trying get to the same point. If I see at some point if C I 30 c effect is disappearing way before than expected time can repeat C I 30c.

To summarize I asked in this post if C I effect can be strengthened in the next 2 to 4 weeks. Also want to hint I have to updose clonazepam if I get in trouble.

Have a nice weekend.
Cheers.
Yogiram / bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Serious message:

Together WE WIN. and we win methodically.

Main question is in point number 5 (five), point 7

Good news : 16 days gone still hanging on to 33% cut, C I 30c works very efficiently
Bad news : Last homeopathy dosage action lasted only 4 and half days.

Point 1
Clonazepam dosage not changed since Dec 25th; current local time 11:30 pm January 11; had a feeling of deterioration of health today during the day, effect C I 30c is going away (disappearing). Heaviness of body, feeling of shaking at around 11pm.

Point 2
Just half an hour ago, took clonazepam :
Waiting for some time to give a gap between this clonazepam intake and administration of next C I 30c. Sitting with a washed glass bowl for preparation of remedy. I need to tap the source remedy 11 times mix with 2 drops in 100ml water, take 2 teaspoon full and lay down.

Point 3
My hope :
I hope the remedy works, and works for a longer period of time. But this time I was expecting more number of days coverage by C I 30c. It was 12 days from Dec 25 to Jan 7th; this time (Jan 7th to Jan 11th) it is only 4 days and half.

Point 4
Mistakes if there is any ::
Suspecting Asafetida (Ferula assa-foetida L.) in spices that I used to make lentils and ate yesterday might have contributed to quick disappearance of remedy action this time. Suspecting 2 drops in 100 ml works better than 3 drops in 100ml. This time if 3 drops DROPS in the mix I plan to throw the mix and remake with 2 drops in 100ml. I have a feeling this time I will get better coverage from CI30c. 4.5 days does not sound enough. I will try to hang on to current allopathy dosage.

Point 5 (main question)
What is the next remedy potency if CI 30c does not work anymore?
Please think in advance, infact now....what happens if CI 30c does not work any more. I have CI 30c, LM4, 200c.

Point 6
I am writing all this because I am not well at this moment and I am afraid. Trying to connect to you David in my mind. You are a healer when I see your name or your abc homeo id. I have no friend or help who is even morally helping in this process. A cruel environment at home where I am trying to heal and get back my life.

Point 7
What is clear?
It is very clear Cannabis Indica works. And its good effect is very strong and complete as long as it works. It kept 33% clonazepam cut in balance for 16 days and that is amazing. I had a milligram balance(weighing scale), I have to find that; it will help me to go for lower reduction of clonazepam. Later I should switch to water titration technique to reduce smaller amount of clonazepam. Now my goal should be to hang on to this current clonazepam dosage.

Point 8
Lets try for a good remedy preparation. Current time 12:24 am Jan 12th. prepared remedy with maximum satisfaction, the glass was super clean, water..the same distilled water I used before, swirl mixing for a minute. taking 2 teaspoon full under the tongue.. kept for a minute, swallowed. Done. Current local time 12: 33am. Thank you for being with me via telepathy.

Now you take care David. Thousands of patients are looking forward for your help.

Together WE WIN. and we win methodically.

Best regards.
id = yogiram, name = bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Dear David,
How are you. Last night I was posting while was not feeling well.
Current date and time : 7am..Jan 12th

Encouraging fact:
17 days gone, still hanging on with 33% cut, had to take another C I 30c last night, do not know
how long this C I effect would last.

Proof that Cannabis Indica works:
In the past when I did not have homeopathy support
I tried 5% initial taper, failed three times within 3 to 5 days in different occasions.
Today I am fine even after 17 days after 33% cut. That proves Cannabis Indica works

I am thinking of two types of adjustments one my side another maybe from homeopathy side


Possible Suggestions of Adjustments from homeopathy side:


1. The most important question is what potencies I should collect
immediately and how such potencies of C I's should be used to keep C I's effect for months. It takes more than a month to
get remedy from Helios, UK

2. I have a feeling for some unknown reason sometimes when there is preparing of remedy involved
once in a while remedy does not work. Do you think I can take two times (instead of one time) Cannabis Indica in a day for example
twice in interval 12 hours and see how many days the effect of C I is there while tapering clonazepam.


Possible Adjustments from my side:

1. Everybody who has no help from homeopathy tapers
3 times a day in case of clonazepam. I should take 3 times clonazepam instead of 2 times.
For you information Half life of
clonazepam is 18 hours, and clonazepam stays in tissues for
3 to 5 days. For this I need to grind tablets, mix in water and take portion of the mix.
This is called water titration technique. If I take 95 ml of mix out of 100ml mix, that is 5% taper.
Tablets are too little to have lower % taper like 5% or 2%

2. Taper should not start with more than 10% cut, because different
different benzo withdrawal forum says so.

I have a feeling if we make adjustments this delayed withdrawal symtoms will not be able to stop my smooth taper

Thank you
Yogiram / bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Dear David,

We are doing homeopathy treatment for the last 4 generations. In my lifetime I have never met a brilliant homeopath and a nice person like you. My father, who is in 70s living in kolkata, India is very very pleased because you are doing treatment for my healing.

Last night I took another dosage of Cannabis Indica 30c. My 3rd dosage since dec 25th.

Cannabis Indica works but it is not working enough to keep the 33% taper. My head is heavy, muscles are twitching etc even after 12 hours after third dosage of CI. This happens when I take less clonazepam. After 17 days my system understood there is a deficency of clonazepam.

I am moving to 15% cut from 33% cut that also is a good reduction. Basically updosing to handle my symptoms.

Please help me with Cannabis Indica mentioning potency, frequency to take medicine, and the way to adminster remedy.

I do not feel defeated, We have to WIN tactfully and methodically. Even now we are in a respectable dosage of reduction.

I need a new prescription of Cannabis Indica, I have 30c, LM4 and 200C. Definitely tell me what other remedies to order and the potencies. You may check the availability of remedies in helios, uk website.

Cheers.
Yogiram / bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Alright, just to have the widest number of possible remedy choices - order 12c, 1M, LM5, LM6.

However, it is just as likely that we will need another remedy (or remedies) to compliment the action of the Cann-i. It's hard to predict at this point - Medhorrhinum, Thuja, Sulphur, Anhalonium are all possibilities but until the state changes and the symptoms point me in the right direction it is difficult to say. It could just as likely be a surprise.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Dear David,

The effect of Cann-i 30c 10 taps, 2 drops in 100ml is disappearing. What remedy to take next. Any modification of preparation of Cann-i 30c ? or different potency. How do I survive next 30 days plus while I am waiting for 12c, 1M, LM5, LM6. from Helios Uk

One observation
Dec 25th 1st time when I took 30c the stinging sensation (possible aggravation) came after 5 hours stayed for 1 and half hours. That time effect of remedy stayed for 12 days

On Jan 7th when I took the same remedy the stinging sensation came with an hour stayed for less than 10 minutes. The effect this stayed for 4 days.

On Jan 11th when I took the same remedy I forgot when the stinging came but it was for few seconds. Looks like there no effect or very little effect from the third dosage of C I.

Now it is 17 and half days, still hanging on with 33%
cut but I am suffering. C I clearly worked. How to take C I next.

(Years ago when I took Staphysagra 200c I repeated many many times action always stayed for 10 to 12 days; when I took Arsenic Album 200c I repeated many many times action always stayed for around 14 days; when I took Lycopodium 200c I repeated 5 / 6 times action always stayed for around 21 days, but C I action is disappearing :( :(...)

Waiting for your prescription.

Thank you.
Best regards.
Yogiram / bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Hello David,
Now it is 18 days, still hanging on with 33%
cut but I am suffering badly.
Any modification of preparation of Cann-i 30c ? or different potency.
Thank you.
Yogiram / Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Dear David,

Ordered Cannabis Indica 12c, 1M, LM5, LM6. as you asked me order. Expected arrival time after 14 to 20 days. If you want me to order anymore remedy please tell me within 20 hours. Your Current Sydney time is 5:29 AM EST on Wednesday, January 14.

Now it is 18 days 2 hours, from taper start time on Dec 25th, still hanging on with 33% cut but I am suffering badly.

Any modification of preparation of Cann-i 30c ? or different potency.

I think if I can survive another 12 days I do not have to updose. I can stick to my 33% reduced dosage of clonazrpam. Need some relief from homeopathy if possible to tolerate withdrawal symptoms.

Thank you
Yogiram / bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago
Hello David,
Now it is 19 days, still hanging on with 33%
cut but I am suffering badly.
Any modification of preparation of Cann-i 30c ? or different potency.
Thank you.
Yogiram / Bapi
 
yogiram 9 years ago

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