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If proving similimum, what do you do...

Nice to see you back again David.

I assume noone else but you will answer... Just out of interest I wonder what does one do if the similimum caused provings that stayed? How is this problem getting resolved?... Does one take the similimum in different potency again or is a different remedy required for the job?

thanks
 
  starface on 2012-03-09
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Starface- the simillimum by
virtue of being the similllimum
would not cause 'provings'-
it would simply release old layers,
it would not be adding anything
new- anything new would mean it is not
the simillimum.
 
simone717 last decade
ok so one cannot prove the similimum? are you sure. I heard that one can easily prove the similimum because the similimum is what you are most sensitive too..??

this would be good to know. Than I can say goodbye to platina for certain if you are right
 
starface last decade
the simillimum if working right-
would depending on the right dose- aggravate old symptoms-gently or not
depending on the dose-
and then they would fade off and more
would come up and fade off- and
you would feel better mentally first
and then it would proceed to the physical-
called direction of cure.

If you get things you never had, it is
the wrong remedy.
 
simone717 last decade

[message deleted by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:57:07 GMT]
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
this if you get things you never had is difficult to answer.

Sure I was paranoid before. And after the 10M It got alot more now.

When I was little I feared being on my own at night. But not anymore. The 10M made me feel like I have this childhood fear of being alone at night again.

So I dont know.

My reaction when i considered you might be right was one of depression and that everything was taken from me. That I got nothing to live for if this true. If I really am not this remedy. This is nothing that I am doing consciously. It simply is difficult to accept for me. I dont feel myself anymore and total depression
 
starface last decade
ok you might be right all. but this leaves me with anxiety now and am shaking slightly with feeling depressed.

I had such strange dream tonight. Where I was with a man who gave me something and I had to deep it into radioactive water to create something which would destroy the world or something along those lines, not, Not sure. All I remember was that I put the material into the radioactive water and later my fingers also and wanted to see if my fingers would dissapear, burn off or whatever, but nothing happened.

And before I met this man I jumped on a small height but than all of a sudden I was really high up in the air on some object and had no way to get down which made me afraid. And than this radioactive dream followed.
 
starface last decade
this emoticon on top was an error. No idea how it got there. Ignore it. I dont use such things
 
starface last decade
Starface-you have your self image/identity tied
up with platina. Like someone telling you, hey
you are not a leo, you are a fill in the blank.

You were 'someone 'before you heard of platina.-
Remedies are just for erasing where you do not
feel well so you CAN be you with ease.

You know when you really like someone's personality?
that means you have those qualities within and they
are not expressed.

The people that are happiest in life know
what they want to do. Some people come
in already Knowing, I want to be a doctor, or a
musician--the rest of us find out by paying
attention to what you like or do not like- if you like
something that is YOUR CLUE -your roadmap to
what your talents are- even if it is just a tiny flash
of interest you follow it and it takes you where
you need to go. This is the way you find out
about yourself and it is never wrong. Even if
you are depressed there is still things in you that
you know you have interest in-just because-
pay attention to that and not what other people
are doing or thinking.-many people
live someone else's life bc they don't know
what their core enthusiasm is and they live
unfufilled.

If you pay attention to what you really like-
the real you will be showing up-and it
will be fun.
 
simone717 last decade
either it is my remedy or I am tied up, sure... but my thinking goes farther, I try to figure out what this means, why this remedy important to me.

lac leo is similar to platina apprently. The first time I read about it (its remedy profile) it lit me up too and felt good. But it doesnt really interest me. There is still is the feeling of who or what is lac leo?? It just doesnt really stand out

. Funny thing is I dreamed about black cats about 3 times now after reading about lac leo. I dont remember ever dreaming about cats before. This is just my mind lol. I read that Lac leo dreams about cats
 
starface last decade
Just get to the homoeopath, and you can start the process of feeling better. Stop thinking about remedies it is a waste of time. Do you obsess over the scalpel the surgeon uses, or the brand of anesthetic the dentist uses? Do you follow the electrician around insisting that he use one particular tool? Who cares? Just let the professionals do their job, using whatever tool they deem necessary. It is nothing you can or should control. Just forget about them - it is only a symptom of your obsessive compulsive nature. Understand that, and be alert to the behaviour so that you stop acting on it.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Fri, 09 Mar 2012 03:50:00 GMT]
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I don't know all the details of platina- funny
I mentioned not being a Leo ?

I have the sense that Platina is powerful
or top dog or something like that, It is important
if you did not
feel not important then you would not have
the desire to be important.

Balance is somewhere in the middle - you feel
that you are important just as a human being-
and the issue of very powerful , very weak
is not there anymore. It just won't be there!!
after you get right remedy. You won't care-

you are compensating and that is why
the power components of platina appeal
to you-

In any dichotomy??? Where you want to be
is in the middle and neutral to either
end- THAT is power.Great masters are above
the fray-but they literally do not get 'stuck'
in any end of a dichotomy. They have
worked thru all the temptations and identifying with the illusion on both ends.

But you cannot skip steps , you have to go
live life and experience these states and
work thru them- not go into a meditation
place and think you worked it all out without
living it out. Not saying don't meditate-
but you are here for life experience and
that is where you develop the real deal.

Look how much you have worked thru at your
job-how many things now are NO big deal,
that were a Big deal the first week. You
can't be afraid to walk the walk and screw
up just like everyone else on earth messes
things up and then gets better at it.think
if you had your own child. How nice you
would be to that child, how interested you
would be to see what the child likes and does
not like- how you would encourage that
child without shaming him for not knowing
everything. What you would do with a child
is how you need to treat yourself.
 
simone717 last decade
yea funny that you mentioned leo. I wasnt commenting on it because you mentioned it. I would anyway because it is similar to platina.

I dont care about top dog. Being top of a group. It is something different, which to me platina represents I guess.

Thanks for the rest you wrote.

I am currently having problems at home again. Well not me, but my younger brother and parents are fighting. Same thing is happening now that he is in those years of a teen as I feel was the case with me. Were he is controlled to tightly and wants to fight it off.

Since this is an issue for me aswell I want this fixed/resolved so i thought about telling this to homeopath when I see her. But when I thought of this in advance the issue came up with how this going to make me look if I reveal how my family is like. I cant. There is an image of me I have, or if I reveal how 'negative' my family is at home this is very bad and changes how I am seen from than on. A loss? To mind comes this conflict. That based on how I look, how I am I should not have such family. It doesnt go together. How this going to make me look? It doesnt fit. something wrong about this.

I think I am a remedy that is very very difficult to go to see a homeopath to reveal all those things/problems. I still cannot believe I contacted a homeopath to see in person. Something that I thought could never happen.

The thing is I am looking forward to being interviewed I like interviews (lol). There is this egoizem and two sides. On one hand fearing humiliation, revealing things etc and on the other hand enjoying talking about myself. Talking about the good things about me

... Something at work which describes my weakness or fear which I noticed is... my mother is a manager where I work at. And she has to order people around. I so often feel like when she gives a command or is critical that 'now, now someone going to get angry and attack her and make her feel worthless and humilate her and make her feel totally small and insignificant, etc'... if this happened to me. phew I would want the ground to swallow me I think. lol. This is my fear. Fear of Constant attack from around every corner, in every sitaution is what I fear, is what I am focused on. I am just surprised that noone attacked my mother yet. And why they all follow her orders without getting angry. If someone treated me like this I would not feel good at all that is why I assume someone could attack. And I would be curious to see what my mother would do. How she would respond. I in her situation could not deal with it. anxiety, uncertainty, fear. Humiliation, confusion, total lack of confidence. It would not be possible.
[message edited by starface on Sat, 10 Mar 2012 01:25:32 GMT]
 
starface last decade
Attack attack attack... and than I start trembling all over, very difficult, and expect that for every thing I say or do to defend myself I will get attacked more, attacked for the thing I defended with... This is how it is when I am at my worst.
 
starface last decade
Well, I assume your Mom has the power
to fire people. When you have that power usually
people think twice about being difficult.
Think if your worked in the Emergency Room- urgent
situations where people cannot take things personally.
The only way to get out of the boss thing is to be
your own boss. The work place is just as crazy if
not more so than the dysfunctional family. And
it would be a good mental exercise to imagine you
hired 5 people to clean out a garage or something,
and some were lazy and some refused to do as you asked.
Then imagine, saying , I am sorry but here is your money
for the x time you have been here, this is not working
out. You get used to being a boss and if you have
certain STANDARDS you care about- polite, follow
orders etc then you have to enforce them-hopefully
nicely but even then some people just won't do things
right.

It is not your fault that your family is dysfunctional-
perhaps alcohol or something going on there??
At least you KNOW it is not right, and no one has
a clean set of family dynamics that I know.My family
were weekend alcoholics- at that time practically
all the families we knew drank like this. They thought
it was normal and of course it got worse as years went on.
Our neighbors were religious maniacs and home
schooled their kids and never let them out anywhere-
now those kids grew up to be wild drug users. On
the other side of us they let the kid do anything.
he grew up and joined a strict religious group bc
he needed boundaries and now he is doing the home
school restriction deal with his kids. You have to tell homeopath
sort of what is going on with family dynamics.
Ignorance in the family set up needs to be uncovered
and brought into the light. Some people are
being outright abused verbally and then think it is
'normal.'
 
simone717 last decade
Alcohol is just the case with my father. Mother doesnt drink. But both are kind of the same, mother only a bit better. I dont even talk with my father ever. Thing is now that I am working I am seeing how imbalanced my mother is. At work she is totally happy, hard working, friendly, nicest person (well to others, not to me, for me she never has time as expected. no real surprise, but not an issue really) After work when she comes home she is ok too. But saturdays and sundays when she wakes up and stays at home all day without going to work... those are quite different days (lol) And this looks very imbalanced. She is angry, manipulative, dictating. Obsessive, controlling. Screams around about how the house is dirty and how the landlord going to throw us out or how she going to have to spend money to fix everything we apparently broke and damaged lol etc etc. quite crazy I assume this is because she didnt get her fix of appreciation, validation that she gets at work.

I am sure this is just from loneliness. And everyone at home has this void and no appreciation. At home we are not nice to each other. Noone likes to do anything for anyone without complaining and moaning etc. This is just how it is. We are quiet when praise is due because noone wants to give it, but we dont hold back when there is chance to be critical of each other.

God there is so much anger at my parents. They are all about work. If you dont work all day you get critizised and made to feel guilty. They pride themselves on this. At work I see how my mother works so hard and so many hours just to get appreciation and to do her work perfectly. All would be fine with that if she would not be so 'devilish' and expect the same from me otherwise totally critizise me. But her criticsm doesnt really bother me. My fathers criticism is what can make me really angry, sometimes it gets to far. Over the years the opinion of my parents changed. I dont think much of them. I cannot feel good when I see my mother working so hard when I know what is the reason behind this... that she does not value herself otherwise. It is all unbalanced, small egos wanting to be valued.

I find it interesting that statistically most often in a family noone shares the same remedy. I am so much like my father and mother. Even after I had the courage after I took platina oneday when we were at the beach it came up that I talked with my mother about my problems and felt like telling her about platina... and when I mentioned queen... my mother said: 'that is me than, I am the queen'. And the tone of her voice in which she said this was all familiar to me. The sound of a small ego fearing attack. I too was uncomfortable and with great difficulty could barely describe platina because she knew that I took this remedy. So I might get attacked that this is not me I feared I think.


I dont care much about the past things that happened, all is forgotten, except that I have insecurities now because I had such parents and that people can see them. I am only angry about that I have this now. Wished this would not be here.

I better dont have kids for as long as I have this issues otherwise I would be just like them to my kids

my younger brother has it tough. When he brings a girl home who is just a friend everyone is making a fuss about it, attacking in a ridculing way, including me at times, I sometimes make a comment but I try my best to hold back.


Ah that was to long. I am regressing again. I dont feel to good about myself any longer and things feel depressive a bit again. Good that in 2 days I am going to the appointment.

I bought myself some things with the money I earned, but as I expected it did not make me happy. There was no need to spend the money. Until my problems resolved. Where I wont be alone without a good social life nothing going to make me happy anyway.
[message edited by starface on Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:06:31 GMT]
 
starface last decade
thing is I am starting to feel the unhappiness on days I am not working too, like my mother because there is nothing to do,things are not ok, something missing maybe.
 
starface last decade
These things are passed down
thru generations until someone
breaks the cycle. You have the
'awareness' to observe something
is amiss and you can't change
the cycle without that awareness, so
you are different than your parents.

What they are doing is wrong, and they
may be too stuck to ever change-it
is a toxic environment and a therapist
would help you to get out of there
and then limit contact or show you
how to communicate in a way that
you can hold your own.

No wonder you feel attacked bc it
sounds like that is all that goes
on in your house.I had another
friend whose parents had a very
hard early life bc they were virtually
orphans. They resented every nice
thing that went on for their son and
tried to have him have it just as 'tough'
as they had it-Like on purpose not
give him enough money for food
when he went away to school. Usually
parents want their children to have
it easier than they did- so all I can
say is I hope you cannot imagine
being that way to your future children.-or don't have any till you do.

You need the remedy and you need
loving people around you and a
therapist to help you learn how
to deal with this. I left home at 21
and never went back except to visit-
and every visit was a return into
the same dynamic of neglect, no one
seeing who you really were, just
a return to like a foreign country!!
You are outnumbered
right now , so just meditate on asking
for help in getting into a new living situation.

there are loving understanding kind
people out there and all you need
is one or two of them and you will
feel supported and strong enough
to make a different life for yourself-
and maybe you will educate parents
in the process, maybe not, but
you will be able to speak up and stand
up for yourself not only at home
but everywhere else.It feels lonely
right now, but you will connect
with people on your wavelength.

Some people get into abusive
relationships and it happens little
by little. When they finally wake up
and leave, they then are afraid to date
other people bc they are ready for
more abuse to happen even tho
it is a totally different new non abusive
person. They have to re-learn not
to react and think everyone is going
to do this to them. that is where you are at. It takes some time and repeats
of good things happening instead of
bad things and then- guess what?
you get used to the good way
and that becomes the new normal.
 
simone717 last decade
Starface,

whenever you write again, start a new
thread, I think bc of first two lines
in this thread, everyone thinks
there is some news they don't know
about David. so I am not going to
write on this thread anymore.
 
simone717 last decade

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