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Dear Joe,

Please be aware that Natrum Phos 6x has lactose in it (however small) and I witnessed a severe aggravation, in less than 5 minutes, after giving 2 tablets of Natrum Phos 6x, to a 7 year old, due to the milk content in it.

Please consider to change the Natrum Phos 6x prescription to liquid dilution in future.

Please let me know if you need any more details of my recent experience with this case.

Reva V
 
Reva V 8 years ago
Hi Vira

I am very interested in your report of the Lactose in Nat Phos causing aggravation. I would certainly like to have details of your experience ASAP.

In the meanwhile I copied by email the case of Robert Ray which is an extraordinary case of cure of the victim of a Stroke which I was able to cure on:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/304209/1
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
Let us get our facts straight.

I would like to know if the Nat Phos 6x you are using is in tiny round pellets each about 3mm ø.

If so, this is the Homeopathic preparation. I have always prescribed Nat Phos 6x in the Biochemic Cell Salt preparation which is in tablets of about 5mm ø and are flat and in tablet form.

Are they similar to the Aethusa Cynap in size and appearance?

You will notice that Reva has warned against the use of the tablets as the base is Lactose and if as you state your baby is Lactose intolerant you will have to stop using the Lactose pellets and get the Nat Phos 6x in the Liquid Dilution in Alcohol. You will then use the standard protocol of inserting 3 drops of the Alcohol into a 500ml bottle of spring water.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
That patient was not cured of his stroke symptoms. Why would you be offering that case as proof of cure? In fact he needed treatment from other practitioners on this site for a number of other problems.

After the treatment with Joepathy, he still suffered from a Perianal cyst, erectile dysfunction, high blood pressure, difficulty walking without a cane, twitching in the arms, weakness of the legs and right shoulder.

The patient did acknowledge he was helped by Joe's treatment. However he clearly was not cured.
 
brisbanehomoeopath 8 years ago
Brisbane,
Can you please give a reference of few of your 'cure', as defined by you. I would be very interested to communicate with the patient and understand his current state

With due respects for every practioner to spend thier selfless valuable time

Reva V
 
Reva V 8 years ago
To David

I was wondering if and when you will comment on Robert Ray's case as you seemed strangely silent these past few days. Your belated response is typical of your previous attitude to the many cases that I have helped and I consider that this case to me is the most satisfying of the many thousands that I have helped on the Homeopathic Forums and at home here in Colombo.

Here is your post which you made on another thread. I presume you did so as you wished to ensure that members of the ABC would not read it as they would otherwise have done if you posted it here on Robert's thread:



'That patient was not cured of his stroke symptoms. Why would you be offering that case as proof of cure? In fact he needed treatment from other practitioners on this site for a number of other problems.

After the treatment with Joepathy, he still suffered from a Perianal cyst, erectile dysfunction, high blood pressure, difficulty walking without a cane, twitching in the arms, weakness of the legs and right shoulder.

The patient did acknowledge he was helped by Joe's treatment. However he clearly was not cured.'


You state that the patient was NOT cured of his stroke symptoms. This is typical of your hatred of my Joepathy which anyone who is not obsessively jealous of this Miraculous Cure of a condition that had prostrated Robert since 2002 up to a few months ago, would have applauded. In your case I have often prescribed Lyco to help to clear your brain which seems so filled with Hatred of the singular success that has attended my CURES that you refuse to see the wood for the trees. I do hope that at this late stage you will take my advice.

It is true that Robert has presented other problems which you mentioned but they do not have any connection with his main problem which had rendered him to be a Paraplegic since 2002. It is when anyone deliberately stoops to the levels that you have so far descended down to in your criticism of my Joepathy that even I lose my even keel and am compelled to waste my time to berate you.

Please re-read Robert's latest report of 11/11/11 where he states categorically that he was CURED of the aftereffects of his STROKE.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/304209/1

Re: Treating Gynecomastia with JoepathyFrom brijobob on 2011-11-11

Hi Joe,

I read your email and I have to thank you and joepathy 'TREMENDOUSLY'.

I live in the Pacific Northwest and thanks to your treatment and advice I have been able to resume my career as a Computer consultant.


I am currently working four days a week in St. Louis MO. and returning home on Thursday and flying back on Sunday for my 4 day stint all at company expense with a salary of $125,000.00 per year.

None of this would be possible without your treatment and guidance. I have continued to use Arnica 30c to control my blood pressure which I maintain at 125/70 and I use Arnicated oil to relax my muscles after

workouts.

Currently my workouts are 2 1/2 to 3 hours in duration and very intense.

None of this would have been possible without your help.

My gynecomastia has been completely eradicated with the help of Nat Phos 6c to help burn the fat and turn what was a B cup bra size breast into a chiseled chest on a 55 year old man.



With your therapy I was able to train intensely and bring my waist down from 42 inches to 34 inches.

I am proud to announce that I am walking normally again and looking forward to running soon.

You are truly a miracle worker and have my complete confidence.


I am also copying below your feeble attempt to derate this Miracle Cure which I am convinced that you will never dare to emulate which you have strangely done on another thread totally irrelevant to Robert's thread. I presume that you did so because you wished to hide your comments on this thread which deals with a mother whose baby is under my Joepathy after many months of suffering from the effects of PPI drugs.

I am copying your post and my response to you on Robert Ray's thread which deals with the Gynecomastia of another patient as I feel that your comments which reflect your inner mind should be exposed to the members of this Forum who will wonder on what precisely makes you tick.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
There is a simple way to tell if this patient is cured.

Have him stop his daily doses of Arnica.

If the symptoms remain cleared from him, then we have cure. If the symptoms return, then the patient is not cured.

Cure, as defined by homoeopathy, does not need to be maintained by constant applications of a medicine. It is maintained by the healthy vital force, which is in turn made healthy by just a few doses of the simillimum.

Cure is stable, long-lasting and affects the patient on all levels. Homoeopathy sets its yardstick at a high level because it is capable of doing such things.

When homoeopaths present cases for peer review, in order to be called 'cured', they also need to show such stable improvement (no tendency to relapse, ongoing maintanence of good health, no new diseases arising except in purely acute or external forms) for at least 12 months and preferably for 24 months.

A case cannot be 'part-cured'. It is cured (all symptoms are gone) or it is uncured (symptoms remain). During the process of cure you will continue to see symptoms showing, and during this stage you cannot call the case cured even if Direction of Cure is good and suggests cure will happen. Many times patients will get seemingly a long way up this path, only to begin relapsing or displaying new more serious symptoms.

Cure also needs to have definitely come from the remedy. If patients engage in a variety of healing modalities, stop or start other kinds of medication, begin activities known to ameliorate the condition, then this clouds the issue sometimes beyond clarity. In such cases declarations of cure by the medicine would need to be assessed very cautiously.

This is exactly the measure I apply to my own cases before I declare them cured.

I have been asked to publish some of my cured cases in Frans Vermeulen's new book - the requirements are stringent. I must show 18 months of the patient being improved, across all levels, with no sign of the old pathology or new pathology. No original symptoms can remain in the case.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:54:33 GMT]
 
brisbanehomoeopath 8 years ago
Brisbane,
Please show your 'cure' (patient) as defined by you. It is not a polisehd publication, but the thread in this forum could be a real reference. You made 6500 post. I would expect alteast 1% of them should have benefited by your definition of 'cure'. I will certainly contact them and get thier current health.

For people to live with Arnica, they have very good life after this, including my patients. Yes, you can stop Arnica, put them away from the EMF around us, remove flouride and Chlorine in the water (pre-Hahnemann time), eliminate the toxic chemicals from the every day food intake, give them no pollusion air.... and they will enjoy the cures of Hahnemann after stopping Arnica.

Again, please show your 'cures'

Reva V
 
Reva V 8 years ago
I just wanted to check back since the discussion began about the Nat Phos having traces of lactose. ..it lost me a bit as I was still just looking for guidance regarding sleep and reflux for baby girl-now 16m. She is doing much better and still off all other meds-I had stopped everything but lately am thinking I need to try the homeopathic prescriptions again. She goes down to sleep but is still up every couple hours-last evening she had lost of discomfort and pulls at her hair and sticks her finger in her ears...she does not have any sort of colds or infections at this time. Any advice would be appreciated. Can I give her the Nat Phos two tablets just under her tongue? She has 14 teeth so she will not choke on it no matter what or should I dissolve and then give?
Thanks for any help!
 
13monthrefluxer 8 years ago
Glad to learn that your baby 'is doing much better and still off all other meds-I had stopped everything but lately am thinking I need to try the homeopathic prescriptions again.'

I would definitely veto your giving her Nat Phos 6x which I first prescribed for her GERD and which she does not present today.

I note your concern that she does not seem to have sufficient deep sleep but babies are different in their own lives one from the other and if yours prefers to sleep for just 2 hours at a time, this can be considered as normal.

My granddaughter is now 18 months and also sleeps for 2 hours at a time and this rest period is good for about 5 hours of a very active time when she plays and investigates life around her. She is very musical and has shown interest in playing on the piano keyboard which she first used to bang down but I have noticed in the recent past that she seems to prefer playing single notes with each hand and can do her own version of 'Chopsticks' which my youngest son has taught her.

It is important to give a baby the challenges to stimulate the mind and as our family is musical and I have played the piano, a Steinway Grand for some 70 years, it seems that music runs in our family. You may like to visit the link below to listen to the music of my eldest son who is a Composer:

www.rohandelivera.com

I would not recommend that you 'give her the Nat Phos two tablets just under her tongue?'
Nat Phos is a remedy and is not to be used unless in case of need.

You can however experiment with Arnica 30c in the Wet dose and I would like to have your report of her sleeping pattern when you give her half a teaspoonful twice daily. Please report her response in 48 hours and if she sleeps any better after the Arnica than before.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
Reva

You will remember that David was very critical of my CURES which he analyzed with a fine toothed comb and stated inter alia:
'Have him stop his daily doses of Arnica.

If the symptoms remain cleared from him, then we have cure. If the symptoms return, then the patient is not cured.

Cure, as defined by homoeopathy, does not need to be maintained by constant applications of a medicine. It is maintained by the healthy vital force, which is in turn made healthy by just a few doses of the simillimum.

Cure is stable, long-lasting and affects the patient on all levels. Homoeopathy sets its yardstick at a high level because it is capable of doing such things.'

It was just yesterday that a patient 88 years old whom I have been treating for some 25 years and has taken a teaspoonful of Arnica 30c in the Wet dose twice daily called me to inform me that he was recently in hospital to treat Cellulitis for which was treated by massive doses of Augmentin. I was indeed very surprised and inquired when he presented Cellulitis and he replied '10 days ago'. I expressed my surprise and inquired if he was taking the Arnica and he informed me that he had stopped the Arnica as he had finished the bottle I had given him about 4 weeks ago.

I hope that David reads this post as this report categorically negates his theory as copied above. He must understand clearly that it is not theory that cures the patient. It is the application of this theory in actual practice. This simple incident amply proves my point.

You will note that David has not responded to the request in your last post:
'Brisbane,
Please show your 'cure' (patient) as defined by you. It is not a polisehd publication, but the thread in this forum could be a real reference. You made 6500 post. I would expect alteast 1% of them should have benefited by your definition of 'cure'. I will certainly contact them and get thier current health.'

Joe
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
Thank you! I love hearing about the musical talents. I agree and we try to introduce her to and let her explore many different things. I will report back on the Arnica... additionally do you have thoughts on the Aethusa? I do not worry about her sleeping habits as much as her recent discomfort in relation to sleeping habits. If she wakes all the time I am not bothered-just tired ;) but when she grabs at her throat and picks at her ears and hair I thought maybe the reflux was acting up again-just more silently.
I will let you know about Arnica-keep me posted on Aethusa please. Thanks!
 
13monthrefluxer 8 years ago
There is no reason to be concerned with her 'she grabs at her throat and picks at her ears and hair I thought maybe the reflux was acting up again-just more silently. '

This action does not need to be treated with any remedy least of all Aethusa.

I hope that the Arnica will help her and shall expect your report with interest.

Please note that this Arnica is only to be used for not over a week to observe if it helps her.

I presume that you are also taking the Arnica as it will help you to sleep more soundly.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
Hi! Sorry for the delay-we had family here for Christmas time and I waited on the Arnica due to the unpredictability of our schedule and I wasn't sure i would notice a difference due to holiday chaos. I have administered the Arnica for 3 days-once before naps and once before bedtime. 1 t each time. The second night we noticed a calmer baby going down to sleep and she slept a bit longer than usual-about 4 hours instead of 2 1/2 but then the next night she was up for 2 hours in the middle of the night. It is frustrating because this age has so much going on-like teething etc that I am not certain I can tell the difference...I have not taken it-how often and what dose would I take? I read others post and realized I did not keep the dose refrigerated-is this a significant problem? I am remaking it incase-thank you-
 
13monthrefluxer 8 years ago
I note that you have only used my Arnica therapy for a few days but as you are aware by now, Babies do not conform to any regular pattern of behaviour. This is really the thrill of having one as no two incidents will be similar.

As long as she does not present any signs of acidity, you will have to abide by her rules of behaviour and continue with the Arnica but in a reduced dosage of a few drops given twice daily with the last dose at night when you would expect her to sleep.

You do not have to refrigerate the remedy.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
Great, will follow the directions listed but do want to report that last night she slept for 5hr and 45 consecutively-the longest she has ever slept. I have remade the arnica anyway with a fresh bottle of spring water and 3 drops-this is still correct?
hopeful!
 
13monthrefluxer 8 years ago
I am copying the sequel to the many posts pertaining to Robert Ray which were made on this thread. Robert was banned from the ABC Homeopathy by the joint action of 2 members who I presume were jealous of his obvious admiration of my therapy which cured him and the gratitude that he expressed on it for his cure.

I am copying this sequel from my own website where he has posted today:

http://www.joedelivera.com/?p=388

Robert Ray says:
January 31, 2012 at 12:37 am (Edit)
Hi Joe,

My name is Robert Ray and this post has been created by Joe to give subscribers to this forum an indication of the wonderful healing power of Arnica.

Joe has copied my posts from ABC homeopathy (which were numerous) but in my own words how wonderful Arnica and Joe “D” are.

In April 2010 I decided to try a homeopathic remedy to relieve the “SEVERE SPASTICITY” that I was experiencing after surving the last of 3 strokes. The spasticity I was experiencing was in my legs with severe weakness on the right side. Standing for long periods of time was impossible, If I went up the stairs it would be one at a time. This meant putting one foot on a step then bringing the other foot up to the same step and starting over again. Needless to say going up long flights took quite a while using a cane and hand rail.

When I went shopping I waited in the car and my son would shop.
My health detierorated to the point I was using 2 canes to get from one place to another, like the bathroom. I had been given allopathic medicines to help with the spasticity but the did not work and I feared becoming addicted to them. I really thought that I had lost any real quality of life. This was a severe mental blow to a person who had been physically active since childhood, including sports, martial arts, weight lifting, dancing, sky diving and much much more.

In April I posted my symptoms on ABC Homeopathy anticipating with some reservaion that I would find some help. The reason I say I had reservations is that I wasn’t 100% sold on homeopathy, but I was 100% convinced allopathic medicine could not help me. Then a literal “MIRACLE” happened. Joe Delivera answered my post and began to work with me using his miracle formula “JOEPATHY”.

The relief I felt was instantaneous and I mean “instantaneous”.
The pain and tightness that I had been expierencing for 8 years was gone. I thought it was a fluke and that it would come back, but it didn’t return. The spasticity was gone and wasn’t coming back.

This was such fantastic news but the Arnica was also solving another problem. The strokes were caused by HBP (High Blood Pressure) and “ARNICA WAS CURING THAT TOO!”. I had stopped taking allopathic medicine for HBP and had been using vitamins and herbs.
After using Arnica my blood Pressure was “CONSISTENTLY” between 128/80 and 130/75. FDor someone who had blood pressure of 261/196 when I had the last stroke this was great news.

Well my blood pressure has remained in that range and I am writing this post from a hotel room in St. Louis where I am currently working as a Peoplesoft professional earning $125,000 a year. I live in Seattle Wa and I commute (fly) every week to St Louis where I work 4 days a week and return to Seattle on Thursday.
Not bad for a guy who couldn’t walk 2 feet unassisted 2 years ago.

Thanks to “JOEPATHY” I have resumed my exercise regimen to continue to grow stronger. Much to Joe’s chargrin I have been doing a full body regimen that lasts 3 1/2 hours. Yes Joe I have scaled it back to an hour and a half.

Another thing that happened was that Arnica started hair growing on my pate which had been bare for the last 21 years. I noticed what I thought was dirt on the top of my head and I asked my son what it was and said it was “HAIR”. He told me I looked like a “chia pet”.

This is a long post but it is all meant to say that “JOEPATHY” works and Joe Delivera is a godsend for taking up this wonderful work.

Joe I will forever be in your debt for the gift you have given me.

“JOE AND JOEPATHY HAVE GIVEN ME MY LIFE BACK!”

Keep up your good works my friend.

Regards,
Robert

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• Joe says:
January 31, 2012 at 1:14 am (Edit)
Hi Robert

I was delighted to read your new post on my Website where as you know I have already copied the relevant posts of your case from the ABC Forum. I came into the picture when you first posted your problem with your Breasts which were at a B Cup size (Gynecomastia) which you stated were caused by the many drugs that you were given by your doctors between 2002 and 2010 to treat your 3 strokes. I prescribed Nat Phos 6x as I had been successful in reducing male breasts in a couple of patients with this same Remedy which I had prescribed for their Gastritis (GERD) and the first patient reported that it also rid him of his Gynecomastia in a week or so.

In your case I prescribed the same Nat Phos 6x and as an afterthought I added Arnica 6c in the hope that it could help with the after effects of your multiple strokes which you had suffered in 2002. I must admit that I never did even dream that this remedy, on which as you are aware I have been doing research on, and which I have been taking myself on a nightly basis since 1996, could have had this monumental effect on your body, in returning you back to normal life.

Arnica filters the blood and I believe that it was able to slowly filter the debris which was causing the blockage in some remote part of your brain which in turn was responsible for preventing your motor control of your legs and body movement. I hope you realize that you have made WORLD HISTORY in returning back to your original state of life as I am not aware of a similar case to yours where the patient, who in your case was blessed with a very active and healthy body, was suddenly felled by the 3 strokes you described in your posts on the ABC Forum, which rendered you a paraplegic and later to be virtually dependent on others to move.

I am indeed honoured by your references to me in your article and all I can say at this stage is that your case of returning back to normal life through my “Joepathy” is by far the most exciting of all the many thousands of cases I have treated both here in Sri Lanka where I live and on the many Homeopathic Forums that I visit on a daily basis.

It is my hope that the medical profession will take up your case and investigate it in detail and use the same simple therapy that I prescribed for you to help the many thousands of victims of strokes who are languishing in hospitals today, who can hopefully be helped by my Joepathy.

I would urge you to share your experience on your road to recovery from your strokes with the medical profession and you can perhaps return back to the hospital and the doctors who first treated you in 2002 and with their assistance share your remarkable case of recovery back to normal health with the world.

Warm Regards

Joe
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago

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