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Grandmother got 40% burns..plz help

My frnd's grandmother has got 40 % 1st degree burns from lip to whole upper part of body including stomach, waist and upper portion of legs

She is around 80 yrs old

She is admitted in hospital for past 4-5 days . After dressing of wounds ,she continuously says some non sense and shivers. She is feeling lot of pain emotionally as well as physically.

I had given her Cantharis 30 every 3-4 hrs.

Do you ppl suggest any other drug to cure her quickly ?

[message edited by earthangel on Mon, 07 Mar 2011 08:19:40 GMT]
  earthangel on 2011-03-07
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Causticum 200c in the Wet dose may be more suitable for her burns as if it is taken immediately after a burn it will dull the pain and also the blisters that result.

You can also give her Arnica 30c in the Wet dose with a time delay of half hour between remedies.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.

As time is of essence if you cannot get the Ethanol stock you can use the standard pellets. Use 6 pellets in 500ml water and give her the remedies 4 times daily.

Report her progress daily if you can.
Joe De Livera last decade

In such acute episodes, 30c may not be enough. Try cantharis in 200c. If not much benefit then consider Stramonium or ars. alb.
maheeru last decade
To Maheeru

You may like to know that I discovered that Causticum 200 in the Wet dose is by far more effective in the treatment of burns than Cantharis which is the classical remedy used for burns which I too used to prescribe.

Causticum is referred to in Boericke for burn injuries but I do doubt that he knew at that time that Causticum 200 in the Wet dose is by far more effective that the dry pellets for the treatment of Burn injuries as during his time it is very unlikely that the Wet dose was in use.

You are invited to use Causticum 200 in the Wet dose for your next patient and you will be agreeably surprised to discover how very effective it is in the treatment of Burn injuries.
Joe De Livera last decade
To Joe

I had given my suggestion as an alternative opinion. So no worries.

NO one can discover causticum';s use (for burns in particular) anew. It's been in vogue for ages since the proving of the remedy. I myself have suggested causticum for burns on this forum a long while back.

Source: http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/96558/

It's upto the patient to decide about whom to follow or what to follow. Let's leave it at that.



if you follow my suggestion, please report appropriately.
[message edited by maheeru on Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:04:02 GMT]
[message edited by maheeru on Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:40:00 GMT]
maheeru last decade
To Maheeru

You stated:

'NO one can discover causticum';s use anew. It's been in vogue for ages since the proving of the remedy. I myself have suggested causticum for burns on this forum a long while back. '

Please re-read my statement to you which I shall copy below:

'You may like to know that I discovered that Causticum 200 in the Wet dose is by far more effective in the treatment of burns than Cantharis which is the classical remedy used for burns which I too used to prescribe. '

You will note that I did not state that I DISCOVERED Causticum 200 which both you and I have prescribed in the past. What I wished to convey to the patient and now to you is that in my opinion Causticum 200 in the WET DOSE is by far more potent in comparison to the standard remedy Cantharis when taken in the Dry pellets.

It is best not to rush into print without reading and understanding the text of the post before you do so.

Joe De Livera last decade

As much i have respect and regards for you as a person and your spirit in old age, i merely corrected factual errors in your claims.

'What I wished to convey to the patient and now to you is that in my opinion Causticum 200 in the WET DOSE is by far more potent in comparison to the standard remedy Cantharis when taken in the Dry pellets. '

Please leave the decision of following suggestions to the patient. Do not try to push your opinion down others' throats. I'm not convinced by your opinion and i have merely given another opinion. I'm well within my rights to do that.
[message edited by maheeru on Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:02:57 GMT]
maheeru last decade
To Maheeru

I cannot understand the reason why you keep on harping about this simple issue where I stated that I had discovered that Causticum 200 was by far more effective than the Cantharis 200 that I used in the dry pellets.

I was merely recording my discovery that the former was more effective than the latter in the treatment of burn injuries as I had occasion to treat 2 ladies one of whom had one of her breasts burnt by boiling water which was accidentally spilt from a kettle which she had taken off the gas ring when her arm was accidentally pushed by someone from behind when the lid of the kettle had been thrown up with some of the boiling water.

She was the tea maker in my business organization and she was in intense pain immediately after this accident. As soon as I was informed about it I rushed home from office and sent Causticum 200 in the Wet dose by a motor cycle orderly to her to avoid my getting into a traffic block which could have delayed her getting the remedy which she sipped in under half hour after her accident.

The patient informed me later that she felt an almost immediate alleviation of the agonizing pain she was suffering from as soon as she sipped the remedy which I advised her to sip continuously for the first hour. We all expected her to be away for a few days but she turned up in office the day after her accident although she could well have taken a few days off without any question. The girls in office had inspected the damage to her breast and reported that they could not find any blister or other burn injury.

It is because I had personal experience of the efficacy of Causticum 200 that I mentioned it in my post and I can see that you are painting a completely different picture to what I sought to convey to you. I can assure you that it was not my intention to attack you as you seem to have misunderstood my intent in your statement:
' Do not try to push your opinion down others' throats. I'm not convinced by your opinion and i have merely given another opinion. I'm well within my rights to do that.'

I would like to copy my statement as contained in my last post to you, which is again relevant here on this post:
'It is best not to rush into print without reading and understanding the text of the post before you do so.'

Joe De Livera last decade
Causticum is more effective in those cases that need it. Cantharis is more effective in those patients that require it. Arsenicum, Urtica urens, Sulphur, Solaris - many others have their uses according to similarity. There is not one remedy for burns, as the wealth of experience shows in our literature.

One of the things Hahnemann and other great masters of homoeopathy warns us not to do, is to choose 'favorite' remedies because of our experience. Similiarity is the rule, our experience merely modifies our prescriptions, and it can modify them to the detriment of the patient if we are not careful.

I was once employed to do first aid homoeopathy for a troop of performers who did some fairly dangerous things on stage like high-wire acrobatics and performing with fire. There were a number of burns each night - my experience was that the remedy I most often needed was actually Urtica urens, followed closely by Cantharis, with a variety of other remedies needed at different times. In fact, the same person sometimes needed different burn remedies on different nights depending on the symptoms (this was not common but it happened).

I have also worked with a group of clients who were part of a subculture of people who enjoyed piercing and branding their bodies (the thought of which horrified me but they were people in need nonetheless). They branded themselves much the way cattle are branded (I know hard to believe). The majority of them responded quite well to Urt-u again with other remedies less commonly needed - so well in fact that several of them had the brands (burns) healed completely!No marks at all. Needless to say I began to lose those clients over time - that is not the result they wanted.

A few years back I worked in a company that supplied natural remedies to hotel kitchens for first aid situations. Burns are a big problem in kitchens - interestingly the feedback about the remedy most often used then was Cantharis followed by Causticum, with Urtic-urens, Aconite and Belladonna typically found useful if those two did not help.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:49:40 GMT]
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
To David,

Thank you for recording your experience with burns which is valuable as it is rarely that anyone had the same hands on experience that you have had in your previous employment.

You will observe that in my posts above I related my own experience in treating a few cases first with Cantharis 200 and later with Causticum 200 and my wish in doing so was only to help the 80 year old burns victim as related by her friend, who seems to have been frightened off the thread by the debate that resulted between me and Maheeru who did not seem to be able to understand what I sought to convey.
Joe De Livera last decade

You gave your opinion and I gave mine. End of story. I do not wish to be drawn into meandering arguments or ad hominem/personal exchanges over a non-issue. Best wishes.


Henceforth, I will only respond to earthangel's posts on this thread unless it's necessary otherwise.
[message edited by maheeru on Fri, 11 Mar 2011 09:10:58 GMT]
maheeru last decade
The following case has been copied from Boenninghausen C. von, The lesser Writings.

Vol. 82, p. 224. Henry G. in G., a child, five weeks old, was burned yesterday evening in the most fearful manner as follows: The mother has been suffering from epilepsy for years, and was sitting by the fire to undress the baby, and was seized with an attack while doing so; so she herself fell from the chair, but the baby fell on the left side into the fire. As no one else was in the house, the baby remained actually roasting in the glowing coals, and a neighbor who accidentally came in and first discovered the misfortune, asserted that the baby must have lain in the fire for at least ten minutes. The whole left side of the baby is burned in deeply, and her clothes on that side had altogether been burned to ashes. Its life-so my Journal states-can hardly be saved. Nothing was used but raw cotton, as a messenger was at once sent to me.
June 13, 1852. 1, 3, Arsenic 200, 2, Carbo veg. 200. One powder every other evening. The application of dry, raw cotton was continued and where this should stick fast, it was to be allowed to remain.
June 20. The child is not only still alive, but has improved quite considerably. The left arm and the left side of the head are still suppurating, but apparently painless, as the child takes the breast just as before and sleeps undisturbed. 1, Caustic. 200, 2-4 §, 3, Arsenic. 200, one powder every three evenings.
I did not hear again of this child until the end of 1853, when I heard that this child which had been saved so wonderfully, had died a few days before of 'termins' a sort of cramps, which frequently originate in inflammation of the brain.
Among all the remedies in greater or lesser burns, Arsenicum since a long time has been valued by me most highly, especially in its higher potencies and in small doses.

I have found too many similar cases, where ars and carb. V has been prescribed.

mani_jee last decade
To Mani

Thank you for copying the extract from Boenninghausen where he recorded his experience with the case of the baby who had survived after being roasted in the fire.

I am simply amazed that the baby survived and I note that the remedies he used were:

Arsenic 200 (I wonder which of the 6 variants of Arsenic he used)
Carbo Veg 200
Causticum 200.

You will note that during his time Homeopaths did not use the Wet dose method that I use and prescribe exclusively.

I failed to mention in my notes on the injury sustained on the breast of our Tea maker, that I had requested her to apply the liquid from the bottle directly on her lesions by keeping a piece of gauze wet on her skin, while also sipping the liquid for the first few hours constantly.

I believe that it was the joint action of this remedy both internally and externally that enabled her to report for duty on the day after her accident.

Joe De Livera last decade
To Mani

Did you read the remedy that I recently posted on my Website entitled:

Prophylactic for the Treatment of Colds and Catarrh?


I have prescribed it to about 50 patients and they all confirmed that it works like magic to provide prophylaxis against colds and also stops the misery that patients suffer from Chronic Catarrh for many long years within 24 hours.
Joe De Livera last decade
thnx for all ur advices but unfortunately grandmother expired due to cardiac arrest :(

She was recovering well but it seems God wanted it that way .

earthangel last decade
To Earthangel

Please accept my deepest sympathies on the news that your Grandmother has passed away.

I must admit that I prayed for her early release from her agony from the time that I first read your plea for help and at her age of 80 years I am surprised that she was able to endure her pain for about 2 weeks during which time she would have suffered untold agony. I presume that she was in a coma at the last stage.

I had a very close childhood friend 5 years my junior who was also my patient whom I had cured from a serious case of depression for which his doctors had prescribed 28 pils which he religiously took daily for 4 years, all to no avail. I treated him for about 3 weeks and he was back to his normal self and enjoyed his new life for about 6 months when he too passed away from burn injuries about 5 years ago when he fell asleep in his Sauna which he had brought with him from Finland.

He was in a coma when I saw him about 4 hours after he was rushed to hospital and he never recovered from his burn injuries which he has sustained in about 85% of his body. His skin was only partially cooked on the area where he had sat on a towel in his Sauna while the rest was completely gone. He did not wake up from his coma and passed away in about the same time as your Grandmother.

You may like to know that I am 2 years older than your Grandmother and am enjoying good health without any aches or pains which are accepted as the price of old age, thanks to God and to Arnica which I have taken nightly for the last 16+ years.

I shall be interested to learn of the circumstances that lead to your Grandmothers burn injuries.

If you are interested in my research on Arnica please visit my website:

[message edited by Joe De Livera on Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:16:03 GMT]
Joe De Livera last decade
Thanks Joe for your sympathies

She was not in Coma for last 2 weeks. In fact she was recovering well but she was an independent lady even at age of 81. She had no diabates nor any disease though she complained of constipation mostly.

In fact she was feeling guilt that her sons were doing all sanitary work (stools etc) which she never wanted, so she was very sad and left desire to live anymore. Thats why heart attack had occurred resulting in death.

She got burns as her sari caught lamp's flame in a temple on occasion of Shivratri. She was wearing synthetic sari that time so burns were serious too :(

Anyways God Shiva wanted it that way. May her soul rest in peace !
earthangel last decade

My condolences. May you and your family be granted necessary strength and patience to weather out the stress/grief.
maheeru last decade

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