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Chronic Silent Reflux about 6 years

First of all hello to you all.

My name is Dejan, i am 23 years old. For about 6 years now i am suffering from silent acid reflux.

For first 3 years i did not know what was wrong with me. My main syptom was/is post nasal drip which gets stuck in my throat (lump) and than i need to spit it out (hawking). At that time it was really bad, i couldn't go 15 minutes without being force to spit it out, i was depressed, drinking a lot, being to many doctors and they all said nothing is wrong with me.

That was until i found out those symptoms could be due to the stomach. I changed my life style, eating habbits completely and started doing nose irigations twice daily and symptoms reduced for more than 50 %.

The last 3 years i have been trying to solve this problem with no luck, but i am still optimistic.

My symptoms are:

-Painless inflammation of the back of my throat.

-Painless inflammation of my nose (had a camera in my nose and can see it with flash light) i also probably have silent painless inflammation to the esophagus and stomach.

-Chronic post nasal drip, all day long, always after meals.

-Horrible taste in my mouth when i wake up (sleeping on an 7 inch elevated bed)


Often after drinking/eating i tend to belch.

From time to time i feel small amounts of acid in my throat.

When i breathe deep ( i can breath deep with my stomach) i can sometimes feel some movement on the left side of my stomach, watery sounds.

Again, since it is silent reflux i don't have heartburn (western medicine calls this laryngo phareagal reflux)

I also feel slight throat pain and accumulation of pheglm when i talk and i have to spit it out.

It is affecting me really bad, for six years i am not leading a normal life, though to be honest i am not sad, i don't like the normal life, i have a couple persons that make me really happy, i am also writing a book, laughing a lot, learning new things.

Every day i dream about the day when i shall be symptom free and i consider it the best day of my life.

I boughts

Calc Fluor 6x and 30x
Calc Phos 6x
Cals Sulph 6x
Silicea 6x and 12x
Nat Phos 6x
Nat Sulph 6x
Kali Mur 6x
Mag Phos 6x


I also need to mention that i have ''acne like bumps'' on my triceps which is the liver meridian, that is why i bought natr sulph and calc sulph to aid the liver cleanse.

I also have blackheads, not severely but they are there.

I am not sure how should i those these cell salts, i have been taking about 4 tablets of each 4 times daily, usually on empty stomach, one after the other with maybe 2-3 minutes in between.

I eat 5-6 smaller meals a day, don't drink, don't smoke, don't take drugs.

I drink herbal teas, juice, green drinks, multi vitamins/minerals, extra vitamin E, buffered C, Vitamin B complex plus B12, Vitamin D, many forms of Magnesium, Zinc, i take Fish Oil.

Stopped lifting weights about 4 months ago since lifting weights worsened my symptoms ( i drank more water, and had more belching and than more post nasal drip and spitting it out)

I really want to go back to lifting weights.

I also did the HCL status check and it showed that i am highly defitiant in hydrochloric acid but when i was taking HCL suplementation i could feel some extra burning in my throat at higher doses so i stopped.

I am now thinking about taking 3 Nat Phos tabs after each meal (5 meals in total) but i do not know what to do with other cell salts? When to take them?

I see that Calc phos and Nat Phos have conection with every of my simptoms, also calc fluor and silica are probably responsible for the weakness of the tissue that allows acid to go up.

If some extra information is needed please say. Will be happy to add.
  DoubleEdge on 2011-01-17
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
It is very likely that you are suffering from GERD (Gastro Esophagal Reflux disease) and I shall copy the therapy I have prescribed to hundreds of patients who presented GERD, the large majority of whom have been cured.

Your remedies are as follows:

Nat Phos 6x dose 3-4 tablets taken immediately after each of 2 meals
Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily.

You can expect relief from your ailment hopefully within 24 hours.
Do not eat large meals. Eat small meals but more often if you feel hungry.
It is important that you do not go to bed for at least 2 hours after dinner as food will take about this time to digest and it is best to stay awake and upright to enable your food to digest before going to bed.

No fatty food, alcohol, coffee, preserved meats like sausages, ham, bacon as they contain Saltpeter which will antidote the remedies listed immediately.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in a 5ml Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before sipping a capful of the bottle twice daily.

Please visit the links below which record the cases of other patients whom I have treated for GERD.




STOP using all other drugs and report progress in a week.
Joe De Livera last decade
Thank you for the fast reply.

This isn't GERD, i mean it is very similar, with the same basis but the pathology and symptoms are different.

In GERD the acid stays in the Esophagus causing damage, creating hearburn, while in my case (LPRD) the acid doesn't stop in the esophagus, it goes all the way up into the throat/lungs/nose causing different types of symptoms.

Non the less the origin of the condition is the same in both cases. Acid from the stomach.

I eat seeds,nuts,mushrooms,coconut oil, olive oil, fish oil, gluten free foods (rice,millet,sweet potatoes) i eat fish, chicken, red meat from time to time.

I only eat food made by mother nature, and try to keep it as organic as possible. I drink filtered water and plenty of it, also i juice vegetables, drink herbal teas and so on.

I sleep 3 hours past my last meal. Last meal around 9pm, sleep around midnight. Sleeping 8-9 hours.

Can i take Nat Phos after every meal (since my condition is CHRONIC) that would be about 15 tabs a day?

Also when should i take other cell salts remedies? (calc phos has synergestic affect on Natr Phos)

As for Arnica that will have to wait since i am from another Continent, i will have to order again.

Could you tell me what effect does Arnica have on this condition?

Oh yeah, i almost forgot. As far as drugs go i haven't been using any. I have drugs and i hate western medicine and the lies they preach.
DoubleEdge last decade
I wanted to say i haTe drugs, not have :)
DoubleEdge last decade
I have now read other articles on this subject, and have seen that Arnica heals damage on the esophagus and sarounding tissue.

Will continue reading.

Thank you very much. I really hope it will work. If it does than you shall have my gratitude for as long as i live!
DoubleEdge last decade
Ah, i need to post again, since i have more questions (as i always did, a curios fella many would say)

1. I buy all my suplements from Swanson. I was searching for Arnica and saw that they have Arnica 30X and Arnica 30C but both in the form of tablets.

There are also gels, ointments but without the ethanol solution.

Also, there is Swanson Homeopathy brand that carries Arnica Montana which ingridients go like this:

Each 300 mg tablet contains as active ingridients: Arnica montana, radix 3X, 6X, 12X, 30X, 200X. Each 300mg tablet containst as inactive ingridients: Lactose USP, magnesium stearate

Can some of this help my cause? Can i use tablets instead of the liquid dilution, if not where should i buy the liquid dilution from? (I am from Serbia, Europe)

2. My second question is for the Nat Phos. I asked in my previous post, but it is better to mention it again.

I see you recommend about 9 tablets a day, but i have 5 meals a day, can i take 3 tablets after each meal (15 in total) until i feel a significant change?

3. Should i use other Biochemic remedies along side with Nat Phos? As i mentioned i bought Calc Phos, CALC FLUOR, Calc Suplh, Silicea, Mag Phos, Nat Suplh, Nat Phos, Kali Mur.

After reading many biochemic books i have seen recommendations about using Nat Phos along side Calc Phos, that they are both CHIEF remedies when it comes to gastic juice issues, and that silica and calc fluor help along side with mag phos help strenghten the muscles and the surrounding tissue.

What is your opinion on this?
DoubleEdge last decade
You may be correct in your assumption that the type of GERD which you suffer from may be technically different from the standard Reflux that qualified GERD. You must understand however that the causative factor is the same for yours and the standard disease both of which result in the production of excess gastric juice which comprises HCl and Digestive Enzymes which are designed to break down food to make it possible for the gut to assimilate it into the blood stream.

I have found that the reason for GERD is due to the non digestion of food in the stomach which then causes it to stagnate in the stomach when it attracts more and more gastric juice which is too low in its ph level to be accepted by the gut as when the level of acidity is too high the Pyloric valve which is located at the lower end of the stomach does not open to release the food into the intestines.

This results in a vicious circle and the only way left for the food which is stuck in the stomach is to release the gastric juice upwards into the Esophagus which in your case seems to be more damaged than normal according to the description you have given in your first post where you have described in detail the problems you suffered from for the last 6 years graphically. I must admit that I am rather surprised that you ' DON'T HAVE HEARTBURN nor am i in ANY PAIN! '

The therapy that I have mapped out for GERD which has helped hundreds of patients should hopefully help you and it is up to you to use it and report progress at least weekly.

Please confirm that you are using Nat Phos 6x and Arnica 30c in the Wet dose as prescribed. Remember that both remedies are an integral part of my therapy and taking any one alone cannot help you.

Feel free to ask any questions which I shall try to answer.
Joe De Livera last decade
I did ask 3 additional question in the post previous to yours, you probably missed it :)

As far as my condition goes, actually about 90 % of people who have it NEVER experience hearburn. That is because the acid doesn't stop in the esophagus, it goes all the way up and doesn't have the time to make any serious damage. That is why this conditions is usually misdiagnosed since its symptoms are not generally connected to the stomach but to the upper organs (throat, larynx, lungs, nose)

Will be waiting for you to answer on those 3 questions.
DoubleEdge last decade
I cannot advice you on where you can source the remedies prescribed as I live in Sri Lanka and I see you live in Serbia. You can source your remedies from the ABC store on this website.

You must get the remedies precisely as prescribed. Arnica 30x is not the equivalent of 30c and you must get the remedy in the Ethanol pack as the pellets are not effective.

Arnica = Arnica Montana

You can take 2 tablets immediately after each meal as I do not know how you will respond to 15 tablets.

DO NOT USE any of the other remedies you listed.

Please be quite sure that you use the 2 remedies I prescribed as they are both an integral part of my therapy which has helped hundreds of patients.
Joe De Livera last decade
Thank you for answering.

I will stop using all other Cell Salts but Nat. Phos.

I am from Serbia, but i order my suplements from the U.S.A.

Could i buy Arnica 30C in tablets, and than add 3 tablets to 500ml of spring water and shake until the bubbles appear?

I see you mentioned in other posts that this is also a good form of WET DOSING?
DoubleEdge last decade
If you wish to order your supplies from the US you can do so from the ABC store which is convenient as it is already on each page of this forum.

I do not recommend you use the pellets as they are not as effective as the remedy in Ethanol which you can get from the ABC store.

I shall repeat my instructions to make the Wet dose again.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done at least 6 times before sipping a capful of the bottle as prescribed.
Joe De Livera last decade
To be honest i am trying to find it here on ABC, but without much luck. I can't seem to navigate the Remedy Shop the way i should.

Does ABC ship to Serbia/Europe? If they do than there is no problem. I don't suppose it would be to much of a hussle asking you to provide me with the link of what i should buy, at least until i figure out how to do it myself?

I wish to start the complete treatment as soon as possible.
DoubleEdge last decade
You will shortly get some assistance from the owner of the ABC store.

Please await his assistance.
Joe De Livera last decade
Will be waiting.

I feel very optimistic, sure hope it will work for me.

Do you maybe have an opinion about lifting weights while taking these remedies?

I remember my symptoms getting aggrivated when working out because i was drinking a lot of water, and it made me belch a lot which was brining the acid up. As soon as i stop working out everything went back to ''normal''.
DoubleEdge last decade
I have managed to find a way to navigate trough the ABC store!

I found to options to buy Arnica, Liquid Dilution, 30C

Joe, could you tell me how much of it do i need?

I can buy 0.5 oz, 1 oz, 2 oz.

What is your recommendation?

Also another question.

When i make the WET Dose as you desribed, in 500ml of spring water how long will that last?

I mean, won't the water go bad? If i drink only 3 tea spoons a day it would take me about 1 month to drink that one bottle?

Should i also buy Ferrum Phos to aide the recovery? I have seen you mentioning it before?
DoubleEdge last decade
Hi Joe,

Thanks for the heads up.

Hi TheeyaN,

I would be grateful if you could let me now what problems you were having so we can improve the store - you are probably not alone.

Many Thanks,
moderator last decade
Hello Moderator.

Well i had trouble figuring out how the whole buying system works.

Now i am troubled with the choice of remedies, when i go on Nat Phos. i can only choose 80 pellets and i know Hylands carry 500 tabs.

Also since i am from Serbia i have a pre-paid credit card. What i mean by that is, the credit card is only ment for internet purchase and i need to put money on it before i buy anything.

I wanted to know how long would it take for a shipment to arrive to Serbia, and also what would be the price of shipping? (i would be buying Arnica 30 C liquid dilution and possibly Nat Phos, so the package would be ''extra lite''
DoubleEdge last decade
Dear TheeyaN,

We can not export the Hylands brand remedies, as we ship straight from the lab, and they do not export.

The Boiron brand offer the cheapest shipping ($19.95). The other option is WHP. Shipping on the WHP brand would be around $50.00.

Boiron only offer 80 pellets and unit dose sizes in pellets, but it sounds like you need the liquid dilution (which you can select on the format menu), where more sizes are available.

Best Wishes
moderator last decade
Yes, i understand.

I have enough Nat Phos for now so i will only need Arnica in liquid dilution.

Now i am waiting for Joe to tell me what amount should i buy, 0.5OZ, 1OZ or 2OZ.
DoubleEdge last decade
It is past midnight now in Sri Lanka so i will use this time to ask another question.

This is my day one using only Nat. Phos.

I am using 3 tabs after each meal.

I have to be honest that the post nasal driping due to acid has decreased noticeably which is a very good thing.

Bad thing is i feel ''sick-ish, tired, and i also sense slight burning in the back of my throad which wasn't there before.

I am not sure if this is the bodies way of telling me that it is getting better, since i know many times symptoms tent to get worse at start and than the healing happens.

I don't have Arnica now, i will have to order it and i am waiting a reply from Simon how long will it take to arrive to my home.

My question to you Joe is, first can you comment on what is happening to me, and second

Should i CONTINUE USING JUST NAT PHOS until Arnica arrives or should i quit and when Arnica arrives start again with both remedies?
DoubleEdge last decade
You can order the 0.5oz bottle preferably with a dropper lid as you will only need 3 drops in a bottle of 500ml spring water.

Continue taking the Nat Phos 6x as you have proof now that it is helping you already.

Remember that my therapy does not constitute a quick fix of your problem as it can take a few months to cure you. You are advised to keep a stock of both remedies even after you are OK as your problem can recur in the future too.

Do not take any PPI drugs like Nexium which is the standard drug prescribed by doctors as it has been proved to affect the brain when used in the long term.

Do a regular exercise routine to sweat it out as this is essential to keep your bodily functions in trim.

Report progress weekly.
Joe De Livera last decade
I will buy the 1OZ bottle because it costs 16 dollars and the 0.5oz costs around 12. A good chance to save some money.

Just talked to Simon and he told me it takes 2-4 weeks for items to arrive. I guess i will just have to wait and hope Nat Phos does the initial healing.

As far as exercise go, only way i can exercise is lifting weights, no other form of activity intrests me. Is that okay? I know that lifting weights put pressure on the abdomen?
DoubleEdge last decade
I have also. What's its cure.
TomCurtis last decade
Hello again Joe.

I just found a place in Serbia which makes all Homeopathic remedies. They said they carry over 2000 products in all potencies.

The best thing is, the price is very very good. That is why i am doubting the quality a little bit, but they assured me their products are excelent (thing is i live in a poor country, so if prices where higher there wouldn't be anybody to buy them)

The price is 4 dollars, both for the pellet kind and the liquid dilution type.

I ordered both in the potency of 30C. The woman on the phone told me that their liquid dilution is in alcohol, but she couldn't specify what type of alchohol. The price of 4 dollars is for 20ml!

I also ordered from Boiron, which they shipped and i hope will arrive in 2-3 weeks.

As far as my condition go, i am now using 2 tablets of Nat Phos x6 after each of my 5 meals, and i do feel better.

The thing is, i added one more thing after a couple of days and since than i feel even better.

The added remedy is Calc Phos X6.

I now take 2 tablets of Nat Phos X6 about 5 minutes after a meal, and than i wait another 5 minutes and take 2 tablets of calc Phos X6.

I feel better with those two remedies than just Nat Phos.

I believe that the condition will further improve as i introduce Arnica. Will be taking it 3 times a day, about 1 hour before a meal.

My question to you is:

If i have 5 meals per day, and take Nat Phos and Calc Phos after all 5 meals, should i take Arnica before all 5 meals, or just 3 times a day?

Second question is. I would like to add Ferrum Phos to further increase healing. When should i take it?

Best Regards From Serbia,
Dejan (TheeyaN)
DoubleEdge last decade
Waiting again for Joe De Livera to answer :-)
DoubleEdge last decade
To Dejan

The reason why I did not respond to your post of January 27 is because I did not get the automatic email alert. I have reported this problem to Simon but he has not been able to fix it. He informed me that he had adjusted the software a few days ago and it seems to me that this has been counterproductive.

If this occurs in the future please alert me by email to the address you will find in my profile which you can access by clicking on my name above.

I am glad that you have been able to source Homeopathic remedies which are made in Serbia. Please share the address with me to enable me to direct patients in your part of the world to them.

I note that Nat Phos is helping you and you will have to await the arrival of the Arnica to complete the therapy. I have no experience in in the use of Calc Phos for GERD and would prefer that you do not mix it with my therapy. You can however increase the Nat Phos to 3 tablets if you eat a large meal and also after dinner. You will only take Arnica 3 times daily and you will experience blessed relied hopefully in 2 days.
Joe De Livera last decade

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