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Tobacco causing submucous fibrosis in mouuth

Sir,
Im a chronic addict of chewing tobacco. In spite of my best efforts, im unable to give it up. It also caused to develop sub-mucous fibrosis(what the allopathic doctors say) in the mouth. Due to this, the mouth muscles are becoming tight preventing me to open it fully. Pls help me to give up the addiction and to improve my mouth condition.
 
  jeypore on 2010-03-27
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
I have some experience in treating Smokers who have successfully QUIT in a few months with my 'Joepathy' and it is very likely that this same therapy can help you.

Please visit 'How I QUIT Smoking' on:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/71302/

The remedy is Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken thrice daily for the first month and twice thereafter for life.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in a 5ml Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you take a capfull which is the dose. Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before a capful of the bottle is sipped as directed.

You can also add to the standard instructions given above by taking a mouthful of the remedy which is a dose and swirl the liquid around in your mouth like when you wash your moouth after brushing the teeth to let it percolate around your mouth as I believe that this will help to accelerate the cure. You will of course swallow the contents as it will be a dose which you will take thrice daily.

Please follow the instructions given above to the letter.

It is understood that you will also cooperate in promoting the cure as while Arnica will reduce that urge, and you must obviously have a positive outlook to be cured. Drink plenty of fluids and exercise daily for an hour to sweat it out and do not indulge in alcohol.

I presume that you are aware that you can consider yourself very fortunate that you have not so far been afflicted with CANCER which is a hazard that constant exposure to tobacco invariably results in at the level you seem to be chewing it.

Please report your response in a few weeks when you should hopefully have lost that urge for that next chew.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Your condition is very serious. Choose between your gutka and life.

It is utterly irresponsible to prescribe medicines arbitrarily and rise false hopes in the patient.

He may think that the medicine may help him and may continue the dangerous habit.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Concur with Murthy in entirety. First leave this habit. Your condition can then be treated by the right Homeopathy remedy.
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
Dear Dr Joe,
Thank you very much for your valued advise. I'll follow it to the letter. I had been to the homoeo stores and he says ARNICA AND ARNICA MONT are one and the same. He also said that ARNICA 30c and ARNICA 30 are also same. I am confused with the 30c. Can I take Arnica Mont 30 instead of Arnica 30c?

Furthermore, I belong to a small village. Nobody here is known to have knowledge about SPRING WATER. Can I use AQUA GUARD water or Mineral water in the place of Spring water?

Can I keep the water with the medicine for more than 3 days as Im advised to take only a cup full of it?

Without informing you, I have already started the Arnica Mont 30, in Aqua Guard water, and Im following your directions. I also gave up the habit of Tobacco chewing since last two days. However, i have developed severe aciditi. Im trying to cope up with my mind.

Thank you very much doctor for your kind advise, again.

I ll be in touch. Pls help me out of it.
 
jeypore last decade
I am delighted to note that you have already taken my advice and stopped chewing tobacco. You will discover that it only required a certain positive attitude of mind and I am confident that with the added help from Arnica that you will be able to STOP chewing the cud!

I notice that 2 other Homeopaths have also commanded you to stop your habit and what is more interesting is that the first has censured me for not having commanded you to stop your habit of chewing tobacco. I presume that he is not aware of that primeval urge that addicts to tobacco have for that next chew or smoke which I have personally observed in my patients all of whom I have succeeded in weaning from their addiction with Arnica 30 in the Wet dose.

He has stated:

'It is utterly irresponsible to prescribe medicines arbitrarily and rise false hopes in the patient.

He may think that the medicine may help him and may continue the dangerous habit. '

This homeopathic critic may like to know that I have saved many addicts who were confirmed smokers like the case I referred to in the link in my first post to you of Will who had QUIT smoking. I have also succeeded in helping Alcoholics who were considered as habitual drinkers who had been under doctor's supervision with various tablets to wean them from alcohol which were only temporary cures.

I consider Arnica a Miracle Remedy as I have indeed worked miracles with it to the consternation of the classical and pseudo classical homeopaths who can only criticize the prescriber and and not cure the patient.

I have not only cured chronic Smokers. I have also cured patients who were confirmed Alcoholics and this same homeopath who criticized me will please take note of this fact.

I can see that you have not read my instructions on the dosage to be used for your therapy. Here is what I stated in my first post to you:
'Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you take a capfull which is the dose.'

You will note that I have referred to a CAPfull and NOT a CUPfull. However you do not have to be concerned that you have taken and overdose as in Homeopathy a capful or a cupful is still a dose. Even if you drink the whole bottle in one go, it is still a dose. It is the frequency of the dose that matters. It must be remembered however that you must shake the bottle hard to produce bubbles every time before you sip a CAPfull thrice daily an hour before meals.

Replying to your other queries:

Arnica Montana is Arnica.
30c = 30
Spring water is the water that is sold in supermarkets. I believe that Aquaguard is spring water as it would have been sourced from deep bore wells. Bisleri is another well known Indian brand.
A 500ml bottle of water should last you about 2 months at 3 capfuls daily which you can take for the first month and you will then reduce your dosage to just 2 capfuls daily for life.

You have stated that you have developed Acidity after you stopped chewing tobacco. You can help your acidity with Nat Phos 6x dose 2-3 tablets taken after a meal, especially after dinner. Eat small meals and avoid all fatty food and red meat. Do not drink more than a sip of water after a meal. After about an hour you may drink all the water you need. Remember that exercise is also very important.

I am not aware if you drink Alcohol. This too is FORBIDDEN.

Please report your response to my therapy aka Joepathy from time to time.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Dr. Joe.
Thank u very much for ur clarification. Though i mentioned a CUP full, Im taking a CAP ful only. What i doubted was, can i keep the rest of it for months together as the water may develop bacteria?
Any way, I got the clarification.

Im sorry for what was commented on a sincere doctor like you, by gavinimurty. Critisism is always there behind sincere workers, particularly in India, where everybody poses himself as an intellectual, without considering the condition of a patient. Patient always needs solace which speaks more on his health rather than the actual drug. This simple and rudiment principle of Hippocrates is often overlooked by most of the doctors. I simply ignored it.

Your guess was right. I over ate to get rid of the craving and perhaps developed the acidity.
By the way, im a pure vegetarian, so no question of meet or eggs. However, i'll take Nat Phos 6x as advised by you whenever called for.
Thank u very much again for your prescription.
 
jeypore last decade
Dear Dr.

I have completely given up tobacco chewing(gutkha). Pls advise me about my submucous fibrosys in mouth. Will arnica 30 wet doses render effect on that problem too?

Arnica helped me a lot. Im gradually gaining health, picking up weight(I was under wieght).

I owe you a lot doctor..... this is my sincere feeling...
 
jeypore last decade
I am delighted to learn that my standard therapy with Arnica 30 in the Wet dose has helped to CURE you of your habit of chewing tobacco.

This Arnica therapy is very effective to help chronic smokers to QUIT smoking and I am glad this remedy was equally able to help you to quit chewing tobacco.

Your case is the first I have treated with Arnica as the only common factor was the Tobacco that you chewed which I must admit is very rare today, while all other cases were just smoking.

I am also happy to learn that you are gaining weight and hopefully you will return back to normal health.

I cannot help with your 'Submucous Fibrosis' directly as I do not think that there is any known drug or Homeopathic Remedy that can help your problem. I do believe however that it will slowly disappear with the Arnica that you will take for life as I am doing today since I first started on it in 1996. Just one dose taken nightly.


I shall copy below the pompous statement of Gavini Murthy in his post of March 3 below:

'It is utterly irresponsible to prescribe medicines arbitrarily and rise false hopes in the patient.

He may think that the medicine may help him and may continue the dangerous habit.

Murthy'

I hope that Murthy will read this post and he may perhaps like to comment on his statement in the light of your report today.

I doubt however that he will have the courage to do so.

Please keep me informed of your progress in a month as I would like to know how your problem is hopefully cured.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
sir,
i m also facinf same problem.. required any tablet name or any nice tratment...

ketan chaudhari
india
ketanschaudhari at gmail dot com
 
ketanschaudhari 8 years ago
Ketanschaudhari

I shall copy my instructions to a smoker who was able so QUIT his habit below.

Please read the response of the person who was addicted to chewing tobacco which has worked well.

I have some experience in treating Smokers who have successfully QUIT in a few months with my 'Joepathy' and it is very likely that this same therapy can help you.

Please visit 'How I QUIT Smoking' on:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/71302/

The remedy is Arnica 6c in the Wet dose taken thrice daily for the first month and twice thereafter for life.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in a 5ml Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you take a capfull which is the dose. Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before a capful of the bottle is sipped as directed.

You can also add to the standard instructions given above by taking a mouthful of the remedy which is a dose and swirl the liquid around in your mouth like when you wash your moouth after brushing the teeth to let it percolate around your mouth as I believe that this will help to accelerate the cure. You will of course swallow the contents as it will be a dose which you will take thrice daily.

Please follow the instructions given above to the letter.

It is understood that you will also cooperate in promoting the cure as while Arnica will reduce that urge, and you must obviously have a positive outlook to be cured. Drink plenty of fluids and exercise daily for an hour to sweat it out and do not indulge in alcohol.

I presume that you are aware that you can consider yourself very fortunate that you have not so far been afflicted with C ANCER which is a hazard that constant exposure to tobacco invariably results in at the level you seem to be chewing it.

Please report your response in a few weeks when you should hopefully have lost that urge for that next chew.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
My dear Ketanschaudhari,

Please follow the instructions of Dr. Joe. I followed it to the letter and could able to quit chewing tobacco just within a few days. The problem with tightening of my jaw(Submucous fibrosis) though persists, it stopped further increasing. I gained weight of 10 kgs and now im 59 kgs. Appetite increased. im still continuing the wet doses of Arnica 30c twice daily as the doctor advised my to continue for life.

Mental strenght is more important. The medicine prescribed definitely reduces the craving towards tobacco.

What i understand is, craving is different from habit. Medicenes reduce the craving, but we must try to give up the habit of consuming tobacco. Generally what happens is, we make it a habit of chewing tobacco at particular times, like after taking food or tea, before attending a nature call, or while going out for a stride etc. Different people have different habits. What happens is, even though we have no craving, we take it as a course of habit. If we do not break this habit, no medicine on earth can help us.

Doctors and God help those who help themselves.

Believe me. Its very easy to give up this addiction. Im an example.

Good luck
 
jeypore 8 years ago
Jeypore

I am glad to read from your post that your progress has continued and that you do not have the urge to chew tobacco, which as I mentioned in a previous post is very rare indeed in today's day and age.

I do not think that any drug exists in medicine that will allay this craving for tobacco or for that matter that next drink of alcohol but I have been successful in helping many patients who were alcoholics and a rare case was a woman who was eating about a bar of Chocolates daily as she was addicted to it for many years.

I have cured her of her Chocoholism and she has informed me that she does not have any craving for Chocolates any more.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
Dear Dr Joe,
I have some problem with my fertility. Can I have your mail ID so than I can send you a mail? Or suggest me where i can post my query to get prescription from you.

I have one more doubt. You advised me to take Arnica 30c. But to Ketanschaudhari, you suggested Arnica 6c. May I know what is the difference in both of us?
 
jeypore 8 years ago
If you click on my name on this post which appears above in green letters which are underlined, it will take you to my profile which has my email address.

It was a pleasant surprise to learn that you are a F as I had always thought of you as a M, simple because I thought that it was only M's that could be addicted to chewing tobacco.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
Answering your question about 30c versus 6c this can be due to the fact that I prescribed 30c some years ago while in the recent past my experience is that the 6c proved to be more effective.

The problem I have is that I do not have the opportunity of testing the 2 potencies on a number of cases addicted to smoking, alcohol, drugs, chocolates, overeating to name a few that I have been able to help to overcome their craving.

The problem is that there is no reference in the classical homeopathic texts to guide me in my therapy and this is how 'Joepathy' was born in 2005 when Murthy criticized me in very strong terms on my open attitude to using Homeopathic remedies in a manner that he would never do as he was strictly guided by the classical diktat to 'treat the symptoms presented by the patient with a single remedy'.

I also abided by this rule but soon discovered that it did not resolve the case and cure the patient as it seemed to me more like finding the proverbial needle in a haystack.

It was then that I used my mind to treat patients with my own 'this for that' attitude and it worked in a manner that was unbelievable as I was able to leave others like Murthy far behind in my records of cures which was the envy of the classical homeopaths on this and other homeopathic forums.

I now prescribe Joepathy and do not use classical homeopathy although I use the standard homeopathic remedies which every homeopath uses in a manner that unfortunately draws a lot of unnecessary criticism as to me it is the patient that matters and not the formula use to cure the ailment.
 
Joe De Livera 8 years ago
Thank you doctor for your immediate reply. What I understand with my lay mind, is that I shall switch to Arnica 6c from 30c.
 
jeypore 8 years ago

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