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Dropsy with Difficulty in Breathing.

Dear sir,

I am seeking experts help for my Mother after 6 years. my earlier post http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/4189/ during 2004.
this is regarding my mothers Liver Problem and Uterus Prolapse, as per experts (Mr Pankaj Varma) suggestion then i had given my mother Lilium Tig 200 3 times a day for a month.
later LilTig 30 for long time in reduced dosing. ( twice a day for 15 days, once a day for 15 days, once in two days for a month and once a week for a month)
its a wonder drug, she liked it and her prolapse problem is surpressed totally. but not CURED completely, still no problem. she had given some liver tonic (LivT from SBL) twice daily for about 2 months. Nat Sulp 3X for some time and Ptela 30 twice a day for 10 days. swelling in feet and face reduced. she was normal.

on 7th March, suddenly she start bleed from her nose, very fuild red in colour not so dark. she was taken Arnica 30. the bleding was lost for about two hours ( not continusely) drop by drop. she is felling very hot always (earlier also since a year) she need fan always, travelling she must have AC any weather ( winter or mansoon) no sweating only feel hot and tired.

after the nose bleeding stoped she developed weakness and tired again, (She is very weak slim) she take only green tea, no milk pure vegitarian, yesterday again i noticed little swelling in her ankle - feet and very marginal in face cheeks, her stool is normal but constipated (hard). she feel very tired, many times at night breathlessness ( difficulty in breathing) she cant sleep left side, she got the feeling of left side rib cage pressing, last night i gave her Ptela30 twice. this morning she feel better, now i gave her Ptela 30. she cannot walk for about 10 steps, she feel weakness, she will sit. she dont have her Uterus prolapse probs now. but she take LilTig occasionaly whenever she had heavy lunch nad/or whenever she feel heaviness she take one dose LilTig 30.she always keep these remedy with her,

She is very anemic, on 15th on advice of an expert i had given her Phosporus 200 twice a day for 2 days. No noticeable change BUT she complained of suppressed urination. she pass urine little at a time she cant expel completely at a time. Ankle and feet swelling is there. she dont have pain. Kindly advice.
  vinaya20 on 2010-03-23
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Please give her Apis Mell 30c thrice a day for 2 days and see how that affects her in the next 10 days.
kadwa 9 years ago
Thanks Mr Kadwa,
She had been given Apis Mell 30 for two days now 3 times a day. Swelling Reducing but tired lot, She is very week, and suggest Ferrum Met 6X twice day by an homepath, Yet to start. She sweat lot at night, breathless ness, she has to sit long time before sleep, suspects this edema and weakness due to blood loss, (Nose bleeding)
She lost apetite. Please suggest.
vinaya20 9 years ago
Please wait for a week or 10 days. She will improve on her own. If there is no improvement after 10 days, you may give her three doses of Natrum Mur 200c at a gap of 4 hours for only one day (not daily) and see how that affects her in the next 15 days. Meanwhile you may give her tissue salts ferrum phos 6x and kali phos 6x 2 pellets each thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours. You may also give her amla juice and aloe vera juice 2 tsp each with water in the morning and evening.
kadwa 9 years ago
I will stop Apis Mel from today, Its 4 days now. She had taken 2 pills of Ferrum Met 3X this morning. i will stop that also and wait for some time.

What is for her weakness difficulty in breathing and her low appetite, sleepless ness.?? Can i give her some protien suppliment, like Protinex. 'caus her food intake is very very low.
vinaya20 9 years ago
4th Day Update
Stoped Apis Mel, Ferrum Phos 6X 2 tabs 3 ties given, Orange Juice, Amla Juice and Aloe vera Juice twice daily in Water.
Oberservation: Feel little confortable, appetitite increased little. she can walk more than 20 steps, still feel tired, Swelling in foot increased, Anckle increased and legs also below the knee. Morning sickness, Neck pain (for some time in the morning every day right side behind the ear)
vinaya20 9 years ago
Attn: Mr Kadwa
Its 8th Day today Apis Mel has been stopped. No improvment instead, swelling in the foot ankle and knee also increased a lot. 1st April she had geven Nat Mur 200 3 times a day. Fer Phos 6X, Kali phos 6x 2 tabs 3 times a day is on. She is very tired now, she get neck pain offten whenever she move to rooms/ toilet. She is taking Amla and Orange juice twice daily. Still her energy is reducing. She is really sinking. Please suggest. She cant bear the neck pain. Please Suggest remedy.
vinaya20 9 years ago
Please give her Apis Mel 30c thrice a day for seven days and report back. If symptoms improve earlier you should stop giving Apis Mel 30c.
kadwa 9 years ago
OK, i will start Apis Mel now (night dose after dinner) she feel very thirsty , she wants hot green tea many times. can i continue other remedies ( Ferr Phos, Kali Phos) Please suggest a remedy if required for her neck pain. I saw your questionair in other posting, and i have pasted it here for your reference.
1. Describe your main suffering?
Dropsy,- Feet, Ankle swelling, Tired, Breathlessness, extreme weakness, Cannot walk for about 10 steps, Get tired, difficult in breathing, has to sit and relax for about 15-20 minutes, get sever neck pain while walking or at toilet. Urine scanty cannot pass urine fully at a time, has to wait for more time, urine pass little at a time.

2. What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?
Weakness. loss of appetite, swelling in ankle feet and lower legs, neck pain & tired when walking. Cannot sleep left side. Night at sleep sweat lot, body feel cold.

3. What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?
Worry for this problem, feel like “I am troubling others” feel like die doesn’t want to live troubling others.

4. What exactly do you feel when you are at your worst?
Difficult in breathing, Neck pain, cannot walk , stand , has to sit,

5. When did it all start? Can you connect it to any past event or disease?
15-20 days back all of a sudden my nose start bleed. Lost for long. Next day I found my ankle is swollen and feet also. Extreme tiredness

6. Which time of the day you are worst?
Any time when I walk out of room to toilet , At the ime of wake up in the morning the swelling will be reduced. .

7. What are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same?

8. Do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?

9. When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?
Feel better in cold air (aircondition) I feel always hot irrespective of weather.

10. Describe your general mental set up? Are you Moody, Arrogant, Mild, Agreeable Changeable, Nervous, Suspicious, Easily offended, Quiet, Arguing, Irritating, Lazy etc.
Most of the time when she is alone she is worried she will be thinking., This is since 2 years, when her youngest son lost a case and lost his house. This keeps her always thinking of her son.

- How do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?
Doesn’t make any difference. She was living in costal area.

- Do you like being consoled during your tough times?
- Are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?

- Do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
weeping, talking to one self etc?
No, but keep thing of her son ( when no one around or no TV or when there is no other entertainment around)

- How do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?
She got only worry about her younger son, Lost her husband 7 years ago of Heart Attack.

11. What are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?
Only worry about her son. How can he live without his house. If at all dream its about that house only ( the house where he is born and bought up for 40 years)

12. What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?
Now a days, thrusty, want to drink hot and sweet drink, like Hot Green tea more.

13. How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?
As above now a days more for hot drinks.

14. How if your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive?
It was normal earlier, now a days very less.

15. Is there any kind of food which your body can’t stand?

16. Is your sweat normal or less or more? Where does it sweat more: Head, Trunk or Limbs?
Now a days after this problem starts used to sweat more at night (sleep) mostly head and trunk and Hands

17. How is your bowel movement and stool type?
Not very free not constipated. Its hard

18. How well do you sleep? Do you have a particular posture of sleeping?
Cannot sleep left side for long ( not more than 5 mins)

19. Do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?

20. How do you think you are different from others, if at all?
Feel …sick

21. What medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?

22. What major diseases are running in your family?

23. Describe, how do you look like? Describe your overall appearance
Now, very skinny, pale anemic. Look like a real patient.


If you are not having normal menstrual cycles, please answer the following questions:

- Are the periods early, regular or late in general? How long do they last?
- Do you suffer from any kind of physical or mental discomfort before, during or after the periods?
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vinaya20 9 years ago
Attn: Mr Kadwa
I have started Apis Mel 30 on 5th 3time a day till 12th. sweeling of foot reduced gratually, Morning on wake up the foot will be normal no sweeling but swelling will be there below the knee upto ankle. the foot swelling starts around 12 noon and losts till night (sweeling is marginal not so much as on earlier days) on 13th noon She felt very uneasy i gave her Nat Mur 200 once. Neck pain reduced completely. feel tired on walking. Now she is taking only Fer Phos, Kali Phos & Mg Phos twice daily 2 tabs. But the swelling of the leg doesnot reduce Between knee and Ankle. Kindly suggest.
vinaya20 9 years ago
You are doing everything right. You should use Apis 30c for swelling whenever needed. Natrum Mur complements Apis and should help her in her weakness. You may give her one dose of Natrum Mur 200c once in 15 days (only if needed). Tissue salts are ok.
kadwa 9 years ago
Attn Mr Kadwa
Sir, She's got little swelling in her legs (Between knee and Ankle) The swelling come in the morning around 10.30 - 11am and lost till night. On wake up in the morning she is normal. May be due to sitting or walking in day time. still i have not given her Apis. But in night she dont sleep. she sit up, she got up and sit around 2.30-3.00 till morning 6.30. she dont sleep. She dont complaint any pain uneasyness or sleepless ness nothing, but just sit up and pass time. she sleep good at night till 2.30. May be she got worry of her son. she may be thinking of him. Please suggest some Flower remedy to over come this sort of worry. Regards
vinaya20 9 years ago
You may give her the Bach flower remedies Red Chestnut and Mimulus.
kadwa 9 years ago
Attn Kadwa

Yesterday she has came back to my Home from her Place. Travelling made her worse. Swelling increased at limbs and thigh. Knee also. I gave her apis last night and to day morning.
She got scanned. (Abdomino pelvic sonography).
The Report: Liver is normal in size, outline & echotexture. no focal lesion. Nobiliary dilatation. IVC and hepatic veins are prominent.
Porta: portal vein and CBD are normal in calibre. No evidence of Lymphnodes.
The gall bladder is normal in size and wall thickness. No calculi. Cystic duct is not dilated.
Pancreas is normal in size and texture. Pancreatic duct is not dilated. No evidence of calcification/calculi.
Spleem is normal in size. outline and texture
Right kidney is normal in size. outline and echopattern. Cortico medullary differentiation is preserved. No hydronephrosis or calculi. The ureter is not dilated.
Left kidney is normal in size. outline and echopattern. Cortico medullary differentiation is preserved. No hydronephrosis or calculi. the ureter is not dilated.
The urinary bladder is empty
Minimal free fluid noted in the abdomen
Minimal left Pleural effusion noted.
Prominent IVC and Hepatic veins with minimal ascitis and minimal.
Left Pleural effusion could be due to right heart pathology.

Her ECG also normal but in V4 V5 show por R wave progression.
Please suggest.
i will continue Apis for some more time (4 times a day) now 'caus too much swelling is there in her legs thigh and stomach
vinaya20 9 years ago
You may give her 5-10 drops of Crataegus Q with some 20 ml water once a day for few days and see how that affects. You may continue with Apis.
kadwa 9 years ago
Attn: Mr Kadwa,
She still got the swelling in her legs thigh and litle in her stomach also. but not much in her feet. I have given Cartages Q 5 drops in the morning. It happend to chat with my friend in Frankfurt at lunch time, when i told him about my mother and gave this url. ( he is also an homeopathy practitioner) he ask me to discuss with you to compare Digitalis purpurea, which may suite her more looking at her complaints/symptoms. even though Apis is the right remedy. kindly suggest, How Digitalis will help her.
vinaya20 9 years ago
Digitalis is a good choice. Please stop crataegus and apis and give her Digitalis 30c thrice a day for 2 days and see how that affects her in the next few days.
kadwa 9 years ago
Attn: Mr Kadwa
Thank you for your reply, But as you know her case history, I dosent want to go beyond your prescription. Just because he told me to concider Digitalis, it dosent mean that you should prescribe that. Pls go through her history and let me know again. i will stop apis and cartages and give her Digitalis 30 3 time for 2 days, But after your reconfirmation. waiting for your reply,
vinaya20 9 years ago
It is one of the most debatable points in homeopathy that whether two or three remedies in succession can work for a single remedy that is indicated.
If her pulse is slow you should go ahead with digitalis and keep other remedies on hold.
kadwa 9 years ago
Attn: Mr Kadwa
Thanks a lot, To day i will buy Digitalis 30 and start from tomorrow. Not that her pulse is very slow, she get tired very soon, mean when she walk from toilet to bedroom. she need to sit for a while to come back to normal. I will stop other remedies, Pls. guide me about the Tissue salts she is taking and AlfaAlfa tonic, should i stop this also for some time..???
vinaya20 9 years ago
Digitalis will not work if her pulse is not slow or there is no history of slow and irregular pulse.
kadwa 9 years ago
Attn: Mr Kadwa,

Still i have not gave her digitalis, Her pulse is not slow, but variable, since 3 days i am checking her pulse. its between 79 and 83 in morning, noon its more about 90-94 evening around 6 and till 8.30 -9.00 its 84-85. when she walk and sit (when she get tired its even more some time and very less some tim. more is 90-99 less is 72-78. But her swelling in her legs and knee is as is, ther is no improvement. only in the morning on wake up could see some wrinkles on skin later on day time as time up. she get swelling. now she is on apis30 twice daily, should i increase the dose, OR would you suggest any alternate remedy. once Cartages Q is on.
vinaya20 9 years ago
You may give her one dose of Apis 200c in the morning for few days and see how that affects. Please stop Apis 30 once Apis 200 is started.
kadwa 9 years ago

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