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Hello Joe,
Here is a more detailed description.
I fell on the ice broke my wrist. It was the distal radius and a very bad break (curved like a fork). I had one operation to put it back in place, but this was unsuccessful as the bone just moved. I had a second operation and this time had a plate and pins screwed into the bone. After this operation I was experiencing a lot of pain. The painkillers administered were paracetamol 500mg (2 to be taken) along with 1x30mg Codiene). After a good few days, my fingers started to burn,sting,tingle along with a numb feeling. This was a constant pain and so very stressful. It got so bad that I went back to the hospital. I was told that it was probably nerve damage and that it was becoming more apparent due to the feeling beginning to come back into my fingers. I wasn't given any other medication.
Even with painkillers. I couldn't sleep at night because of this pain.
As you know, I had to wait until after New Year holidays before getting the arnica and hypericum, but eventually did get them as I was still in a lot of pain.
I took the first dose in the morning and very soon felt some relief. I took no painkillers that day nor that evening before going to sleep. I had the most wonderful peaceful sleep that night. I felt like a baby in the womb...and no pain disturbing me. I've been continuing to take the 2 remedies as prescribed and have never had the need for a painkiller since starting them. Other than the reduction in pain, noticeable improvements were a marked and quick reduction in the swelling in my fingers which I couldn't move at all before the remedies.
There is stil a bit to go before this has entirely healed (there are 16 stitches)but the marked reduction in pain was a god send.
Thank you very much indeed for your help.
I don't know who Homoeopath International are, but to be honest,why does it matter to them what you are doing, as long as you are helping people. :)
Warm regards,
Shelaghna
 
shelaghna last decade
Dear Jewish Homoeopath(HI) and Brisbanehomoeopath,

I am happy that David is OK in Brisbane! May God bless him?

I would like to kindly request HI and BH, please do not confuse and scare patients on several threads by your unneeded interference, then, not responding to the patients at all. I can provide several links where your interference made the patients waiting for treatment, but, no replies and finally patients get confused and run away.

Please try to understand, patients are in pain and suffering, they need your timely help. They are least interested or they have the time to learn Homoeopathy. In addition, this is a forum, not your clinic, not your classroom and certainly not your office. The internals of homoeopathy must be transparent to patients visiting this forum.

I hope and pray you will seriously consider my request with the most positive and professional approach.

Respectable Joe D. Livera is helping patients for the last 25 years without any financial gains. The patients are pleased with him as may be seen on several threads and on the internet. He is 82 years old, the most senior member and in my opinion deserves a lot of respect, appreciation and recognition!

Joe, please be patient, I know it hurts you, but, always remember that there is a great reward from your creator!

Again, may God bless you all?

Regards
Nawaz
 
nawazkhan last decade
Joe is a good guy. I can see that he really wants what is best for his patients. We've got some very significant differences in philosophy and treatment. I welcome him to treat everyone with arnica type injuries with arnica. When used for injuries, arnica can do enormous good.
 
Homeopathy International 1 last decade
To H I (and David K)

I was happy to read your statement:
'Joe is a good guy. I can see that he really wants what is best for his patients.'

You must understand that I have developed a certain mode of therapy aka 'Joepathy' throughout the past years of my involvement in Homeopathy and I have openly admitted that I do not subscribe to the diktat of Classical Homeopathy of treating the totality of the symptoms the patient presents with that elusive single remedy, simply because I have sadly been disillusioned in following this therapy to the letter as the results I had in treating many patients were dismal. It was then that I decided to be more positive in my therapy and developed my own remedies for the treatment of certain ailments as I found that my remedies worked far more effectively than the remedies prescribed in the classical texts. In a way I was using the same protocol that Hahnemann and his early followers used in using potentized remedies that are standard in Homeopathy for diseases which are not listed. The difference however is that I refuse to 'treat the totality of the symptoms' as I have found in almost every case that my 'this for that' therapy worked well. I have always maintained that it is not the methodology used in the cure of an ailment that the patient presents nor the discussion of your pet theories as to which classical remedy was better than the other.

Among the most salient of my recent discoveries are:

Arnica 6c for Diabetes
Nat Phos 6x for Obesity and GERD
Nat Mur 6x for Hypertension.

I have many other remedies which I have pioneered in using for various ailments and diseases which are not listed for the particulat ailment but this will take too long to enumerate here and it can be construed that I am blowing my own trumpet here in this post.

Nawaz has very succinctly analyzed what he feels is the real reason for your joint interference and I hope that you will take his advice to heart. It is the patient's own ailment that is paramount in our joint efforts in helping him and it is up to us jointly to respect each other's opinion and therapy and if for some reason you find that my therapy is not correct, you are welcome to discuss it at greater length with me which you can do in a separate post or by email instead of butting in on my thread and insisting that my therapy is incorrect when in every case I can think of, it was correct. I have had instances where you or David have criticized me for my remedy after the patient confirms that he/she was already cured !

I have often referred to the fact that I am not alone in my treatment protocol as the link below will show you that other more qualified and world famous bodies also use this same direct 'This for that' protocol as according to them it works even better than the classical therapy.

PRASANTA BANERJI HOMEOPATHIC RESEARCH FOUNDATION
http://www.pbhrfindia.org/

INTERHOMEOPATHY
http://www.interhomeopathy.org/dogmatism_in_homeopathy

All I request of you and David is to just quit bugging me on every post I make and I am delighted to note that Nawaz has also cautioned you both to lay off as it is only when you or David criticize me in a manner I feel is unfair, that I am compelled to go on the defensive. You will observe that I have never had occasion to berate either of you and it is my hope that we can exist on the ABC as friends as time to me is precious, especially when one reaches my advanced age as I can use up the time that I have in the future towards achieving a more positive result than crossing swords with both of you.

Kind Regards

Joe De Livera
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe,
Thank you for informing me of the remedy for my sons throat condition. I have ordered it and await it's arrival.
Do I dilute this in the Spring water just as I did with the Arnica and Hypercium?
Taking the liquid form is new to me, but I feel they are better to use.
Very Best Wishes to you.
Shelaghna
 
shelaghna last decade
To Shelaghna

Your record of you accident and the subsequent surgery accounts for the trauma you have suffered and I am indeed gratified to learn that my therapy of Arnica and Hypericum helped you in a manner that can be considered as miraculous and almost instant after all the analgesics you listed were of no avail:
' The painkillers administered were paracetamol 500mg (2 to be taken) along with 1x30mg Codiene.'

What is more relevant is that an analgesic can only assuage your pain by suppressing the conduction of the pain signals to your brain but you have experienced almost instant relief as soon as you started on them:
'I took the first dose in the morning and very soon felt some relief. I took no painkillers that day nor that evening before going to sleep. I had the most wonderful peaceful sleep that night. I felt like a baby in the womb...and no pain disturbing me. I've been continuing to take the 2 remedies as prescribed and have never had the need for a painkiller since starting them. Other than the reduction in pain, noticeable improvements were a marked and quick reduction in the swelling in my fingers which I couldn't move at all before the remedies.
There is stil a bit to go before this has entirely healed (there are 16 stitches)but the marked reduction in pain was a god send.
Thank you very much indeed for your help.
I don't know who Homoeopath International are, but to be honest,why does it matter to them what you are doing, as long as you are helping people. :)'

I do hope that my current detractors Homeopathy International and Brisbane Homeopath (Davik Kempson) will read and digest your report and your account as it is important that they accept in principle that there is indeed method in my madness (Joepathy) which I use and prescribe in the manner that I feel is best for the patient. I do not pontificate about my knowledge of Homeopathy which some have considered unique in spite of the fact that I am not qualified. I have never attended a Homeopathic College but I first commenced my studies of this Science as I was cured of my frequent colds way back in 1968 by a Homeopath whom I consulted after being treated by allopaths for about 10 years prior with no improvement in my condition. I then started to investigate and study Homeopathy from the 50 odd textbooks that I got from India (I live in Sri Lanka where Homeopathy is not commonly used and is suspected) and the more I read these books, the more it dawned on me that this Science was by far more acceptable than allopathy. I believe that I have made some significant contributions to Homeopathy as I often use standard remedies in an unusual manner like the Bryonia 200c for gargling for a sore throat which is not referred to in any textbook.

You are perhaps not aware of the irritation that both Homeopathy International and David Kempson aka Brisbane Homeopath are causing me on a daily basis and it is my hope that they will now desist from doing so as H I has hopefully offered an Olive Branch and hopefully keep to his side of the truce. David is yet to show any such sign.

The problem as I see it is that my critics refuse to accept in principle that it is possible to use standard remedies to cure ailments even if they are not listed in the text books which they have obviously studied and this results in my wasting my time in responding to their sometimes inane arguments and criticisms.



Answering your question:

The Wet dose I prescribe exclusively is by far the most effective form of therapy to use Homeopathic remedies.

The Bryonia 200 I prescribed for your son should also be made up in the same manner and the difference in comparison to the other 2 remedies you are now taking, is that the Bry is more effective when used as a gargle before swallowing as it will help with reducing the inflammation in the throat. It can safely be used every 3 hours till the infection is stabilized.

I shall await your progress report with interest.

Thank you for your good wishes which are appreciated and reciprocated for your return to normal after your accident. It is when the plates now screwed into your bone are removed a few months into the future that you will again have to use these 2 remedies but in the meanwhile you will continue with the Arnica alone taken twice daily after your current trauma is past.

Kind Regards

Joe De Livera
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hello Dear Joe,
Thank you so much for taking the time to tell me a little about yourself and how you came to be involved in homoeopathy.
Most people are so conditioned that whatever they are taught is the only way and therefore are closed to accepting anything else, but true pioneers and adventurers are the ones who are ready and open enough to go beyond and 'look out of the box' and discover more. If there were not people like you Joe, then we would still all believe the world was flat, 'because that's what we were taught'. ;) There is always more to discover within inside human beings and without. Once upon a time, the digit '0'(zero) was not acknowledged .... Although there is some debate about this, I do believe it was aryabhata of india who discovered it's profound importance. Anyways, I think I have made my point....if there weren't pioneers I would not be sitting typing on this computer.
I can sense you are nothing but a gentleman Joe.
Keep up the good work.
I will let you know how the Bryonia goes.
Warm regards,
Shelaghna
PS. Yes, I am new to this forum, so I did wonder what was going on when there were comments from HI etc.
 
shelaghna last decade
Dear Joe D. Livera,

How are you doing this morning?

May The God Almighty bless you with more happiness, more peace of mind, more sustenance and above all bless you with more patience?

Please keep up the great work you are doing!

Again, I would like to request you to forgive all of us for the childish mistakes we make all the time.

Kind Regards
Nawaz
 
nawazkhan last decade
Dear Shelaghna

You are one of the very few patients whom I have treated who have appreciated that all I endeavour to do, not only in Homeopathy but in my life also, is to use the special faculties that God has given me in a manner that is often different from how others who are more qualified than me would do to address the same problem. In this case it is in treating a patient with my Joepathy and I have ample evidence that it works in what can honestly be described a miraculous manner.

It is my hope that my 2 detractors will read this thread and your post in particular to finally realize that there is indeed 'method in my madness'. All I request them is to leave me in peace and not to jump the gun on almost every post I make on the grounds that my therapy is not classically generated. I have often tried to tell them that is is not the methodology used in the treatment of a patient that matters as it is obviously the cure of the patient that is paramount. But unfortunately all my arguments fall on deaf ears.

I cannot help referring to how even a classically identified remedy can backfire which this one did in a big way and I would request you to please visit:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/257067/

You will note that I was at first castigated for having dared to prescribe Arnica 6c which I have done for hundreds of boys and girls who present Acne during the puberty years and I was amazed myself when I discovered many years ago, how quickly my Joepathy fixed this problem, often overnight. The results that followed after using the proverbial classical therapy for Acne is best read by you in the entirety of the thread when you have some time.

I do not seek any kudos from others, least of all patients, but when one like you confirms the cessation of pain after taking what was perhaps the first dose of my therapy when you were suffering pain in spite of all those powerful analgesics you were using up to that time, I am indeed gratified and even honoured that I was the one person to take your case and prescribe the remedy that worked that alleviated your pain and gave you that inner comfort and peace which drugs alone could not equate.

I do not know in which country you live and would like to come to know you closer if you would like to take up my invitation to call me on Skype. My ID is Joedelivera. I do not have Skype on all the time but if you will please contact me by email I shall be happy to do so.

Kind Regards

Joe
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Nawaz,

Thank you for your good wishes for my health both mental and physical, which I do appreciate. Please read my post to Shelaghna which will give you some food for thought.

I do not bear any grudge against anyone both here and in my life as I am a very peaceful and contended personality. It is only when I am attacked in a manner that I consider unfair, that I galvanize into action and retaliate with my guns blazing in a broadside that sometimes annihilates the opposition, which seems to have already occurred in the case that I referred to in my post above.

Thank you for your kindness which is much appreciated.

Joe
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hi there Joe,
Have just finished reading the article about the actress and her acne. My goodness! Not a good result! I wonder if she had just continued taking the Arnica 6c and nothing else it would have helped. I have to say, I would have been very confused everybody butting in with all their different prescriptions. To be honest, if it were me, I would have taken your advice,mainly because you state it simply and clearly without further ado, but also, because I sense a genuine feeling.
I live in Perth, Scotland Joe, but unfortunately don't have skype. I tried it a few years ago but could never get a clear enough reception.
My son just started his remedy today. Will see him on Friday, so will find out how it is going.
Warm regards,
Shelaghna
 
shelaghna last decade

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