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Dear Joe
Empty rhetoric will take you no where. 'I know better' sort of statements won't cut any ice.
Give references to what you say.Otherwise stop lamenting if a better informed person like me tells you what to do.
Murthy
Empty rhetoric will take you no where. 'I know better' sort of statements won't cut any ice.
Give references to what you say.Otherwise stop lamenting if a better informed person like me tells you what to do.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
To Murthy,
I am glad that you provided chapter and verse to support your advice to use an ounce of brandy in a 500ml bottle of water in order to preserve it, presumably from bacterial pollution. I had stated that there was no grounds to support your advice and you now provide what you consider is proof by quoting Bradford whom I have not read where he has given some advice which I consider is not tenable in the light of present medical knowledge. I shall dissect the statement below:
He has stated that he (presumably Hahnemann) used spring or RIVER water which he preferred to the Distilled water which he stated becomes 'SPOILT AND FERMENTS'. Any person who has an average intellect will know that it is the RIVER water that SPOILS and FERMENTS if kept in a bottle as the bacteria proliferates with every passing hour. DISTILLED water on the other hand will NEVER spoil nor ferment especially if the container too is sterile.
He refers to SPIRITS OF WINE which in today's context is Methyl Alcohol which is an accepted POISON.I do not have to remind you that many thousands die regularly annually at this time of the year in your country by unknowingly drinking this poison.
Your recommendation of using 1 ounce in 500ml water which is the equivalent of a 3% solution is still far too high although it is lower that the concentration recommended by H.
I believe that your main problem (ailment ?) is the fact that you cannot see the 'wood for the trees' in all your inane responses criticizing my posts on the ABC as you seem to be slavishly adhering to the information you read from any textbook you possess which one obviously has to use, especially in the case of your quotation, with a pinch of salt.
I would in fact consider the advice given by you as downright dangerous and I do hope that others who have read this text did not slavishly use the formula that you have advised.
As I stated in my post above, I have actual hands on experience in the use of the Wet Dose for the last 2 years after I was converted by Luc to it and use in exclusively in the treatment of my patients. I can honestly state that none of your fear about diarrhoea has never materialized in the use of the wet dose made in the manner except for one instance where the water had turned slightly green with algae after the bottle had been placed near a window exposed to UV light from the sky. This remedy was discarded.
I would advice you not to pontificate even with quotations from the masters in future without considering the true impact of your advice as it can expose the poor patient to unnecessary danger.
In your subsequent post you continue to pontificate as follows:
'Empty rhetoric will take you no where. 'I know better' sort of statements won't cut any ice.
Give references to what you say.Otherwise stop lamenting if a better informed person like me tells you what to do.'
It is your pompous and unbridled pride in your own interpretation of what you classify as classical homeopathy which you must remember is only 4 years old, that impels you to continue to insult me with your quotation of Bradford's record of H's Life and Letters which I have proved to be incorrect and out of context and can be considered dangerous, You can imagine the impact of a patient foolishly following your advice merely because you have quoted H to use RIVER WATER to make a remedy as the results can be fatal.
You are very quick to fault me even when in doing so, you expose yourself to obvious irrational beliefs which you continue to inflict on me and others who may read this post. I hope that readers will appreciate the danger in following Murthy's advice on Homeopathy as it can lead the patient into many serious situations.
Remember that age brings with it the experience which is essential to rational thinking and it is obvious that you sadly lack it.
I am glad that you provided chapter and verse to support your advice to use an ounce of brandy in a 500ml bottle of water in order to preserve it, presumably from bacterial pollution. I had stated that there was no grounds to support your advice and you now provide what you consider is proof by quoting Bradford whom I have not read where he has given some advice which I consider is not tenable in the light of present medical knowledge. I shall dissect the statement below:
He has stated that he (presumably Hahnemann) used spring or RIVER water which he preferred to the Distilled water which he stated becomes 'SPOILT AND FERMENTS'. Any person who has an average intellect will know that it is the RIVER water that SPOILS and FERMENTS if kept in a bottle as the bacteria proliferates with every passing hour. DISTILLED water on the other hand will NEVER spoil nor ferment especially if the container too is sterile.
He refers to SPIRITS OF WINE which in today's context is Methyl Alcohol which is an accepted POISON.I do not have to remind you that many thousands die regularly annually at this time of the year in your country by unknowingly drinking this poison.
Your recommendation of using 1 ounce in 500ml water which is the equivalent of a 3% solution is still far too high although it is lower that the concentration recommended by H.
I believe that your main problem (ailment ?) is the fact that you cannot see the 'wood for the trees' in all your inane responses criticizing my posts on the ABC as you seem to be slavishly adhering to the information you read from any textbook you possess which one obviously has to use, especially in the case of your quotation, with a pinch of salt.
I would in fact consider the advice given by you as downright dangerous and I do hope that others who have read this text did not slavishly use the formula that you have advised.
As I stated in my post above, I have actual hands on experience in the use of the Wet Dose for the last 2 years after I was converted by Luc to it and use in exclusively in the treatment of my patients. I can honestly state that none of your fear about diarrhoea has never materialized in the use of the wet dose made in the manner except for one instance where the water had turned slightly green with algae after the bottle had been placed near a window exposed to UV light from the sky. This remedy was discarded.
I would advice you not to pontificate even with quotations from the masters in future without considering the true impact of your advice as it can expose the poor patient to unnecessary danger.
In your subsequent post you continue to pontificate as follows:
'Empty rhetoric will take you no where. 'I know better' sort of statements won't cut any ice.
Give references to what you say.Otherwise stop lamenting if a better informed person like me tells you what to do.'
It is your pompous and unbridled pride in your own interpretation of what you classify as classical homeopathy which you must remember is only 4 years old, that impels you to continue to insult me with your quotation of Bradford's record of H's Life and Letters which I have proved to be incorrect and out of context and can be considered dangerous, You can imagine the impact of a patient foolishly following your advice merely because you have quoted H to use RIVER WATER to make a remedy as the results can be fatal.
You are very quick to fault me even when in doing so, you expose yourself to obvious irrational beliefs which you continue to inflict on me and others who may read this post. I hope that readers will appreciate the danger in following Murthy's advice on Homeopathy as it can lead the patient into many serious situations.
Remember that age brings with it the experience which is essential to rational thinking and it is obvious that you sadly lack it.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe
Who told you 'spirits of wine' means methyl alcohol?
In the days of Hahn. all liquors are called spirits.
The alcohol is a disinfectant, and as such Hahn. was suggesting to use river water, with a good amount of wine.
If you bother to read my suggestion, this is what I said.
'if you don't add atleast an ounce of good quality brandy to it.'
This is the quantity required to make the water safe for preserving.
Distilled water if kept in ordinary containers will get spoiled. Hahn. was talking of making a medicine by the common man, by using even river water.
Don't try to prove that you are wiser than Hahn.
If the adequate quantity of alcohol as suggested is used, river water is safe even today, as told by Hahn.
There is nothing dangerous in what Hahn. suggested then, and the essence of it is still applicable now.
I know you never read any books on homeopathy, and hence can't comment on these matters in a scholorly way.
Finally, I never said use 'river water.' It is you who are twisting my simple suggestion to add an ounce of Brandy to 400 ml. of water, which by all means is the best way to preserve for long term usage.
If you don't want to use alcohol, use atleast wood charcoal.
Sermons on rational thinking by the 'Arnica Man'...
First of all please try to understand what is 'rational thinking.'
Age, particularly old age make people's minds a bit cloudy, and they can't think straight.
I am sure it is happening to you, despite your daily dose of Arnica.
Murthy
Who told you 'spirits of wine' means methyl alcohol?
In the days of Hahn. all liquors are called spirits.
The alcohol is a disinfectant, and as such Hahn. was suggesting to use river water, with a good amount of wine.
If you bother to read my suggestion, this is what I said.
'if you don't add atleast an ounce of good quality brandy to it.'
This is the quantity required to make the water safe for preserving.
Distilled water if kept in ordinary containers will get spoiled. Hahn. was talking of making a medicine by the common man, by using even river water.
Don't try to prove that you are wiser than Hahn.
If the adequate quantity of alcohol as suggested is used, river water is safe even today, as told by Hahn.
There is nothing dangerous in what Hahn. suggested then, and the essence of it is still applicable now.
I know you never read any books on homeopathy, and hence can't comment on these matters in a scholorly way.
Finally, I never said use 'river water.' It is you who are twisting my simple suggestion to add an ounce of Brandy to 400 ml. of water, which by all means is the best way to preserve for long term usage.
If you don't want to use alcohol, use atleast wood charcoal.
Sermons on rational thinking by the 'Arnica Man'...
First of all please try to understand what is 'rational thinking.'
Age, particularly old age make people's minds a bit cloudy, and they can't think straight.
I am sure it is happening to you, despite your daily dose of Arnica.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
'Alcohol' means ethyl alcohol, hydrated oxide of ethyl, or spirits of wine, from whatever source or by whatever process produced.
Source: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol04_Ch0201-0257/h....
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spirits of wine - rectified ethyl alcohol
ethanol, ethyl alcohol, fermentation alcohol, grain alcohol - the intoxicating agent in fermented and distilled liquors; used pure or denatured as a solvent or in medicines and colognes and cleaning solutions and rocket fuel; proposed as a renewable clean-burning additive to gasoline
Source:http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spirits+of+wine
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Murthy
Source: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol04_Ch0201-0257/h....
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spirits of wine - rectified ethyl alcohol
ethanol, ethyl alcohol, fermentation alcohol, grain alcohol - the intoxicating agent in fermented and distilled liquors; used pure or denatured as a solvent or in medicines and colognes and cleaning solutions and rocket fuel; proposed as a renewable clean-burning additive to gasoline
Source:http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spirits+of+wine
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Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Methyl Alcohol
Dealing with the Toxicity of Methyl Alcohol
Hooch claims 18 in capital Killer Sura claims 120. Sura toll rises to 146 78 die in Bombay Hooch tragedy ...and the list continues. Hooch, sura, desi daru, khopdi, lattha etc. Only the names differ, but the outcome remains the same... Hundreds of people lose their lives and more become blind. The killer is nothing other than methyl alcohol. Methyl alcohol is also called wood alcohol, wood spirit, wood naphtha, pyroxylic spirit or methanol. Methanol is obtained by destructive distillation of wood or molasses, and is used as a solvent for shellac, gums, fats and varnishes, for cinematography films and also as an anti-freeze. It is also used for denaturing rectified spirit so as to render it undrinkable.
Methyl alcohol in any form is poisonous. With a view to make denatured spirit nauseating and abhorrent for potable use, the government had tried many methods to restrict its use among degenerate drinkers but with little success.
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http://www.aarogya.com/Legalities/medijuri/alcohol.asp
Murthy
Dealing with the Toxicity of Methyl Alcohol
Hooch claims 18 in capital Killer Sura claims 120. Sura toll rises to 146 78 die in Bombay Hooch tragedy ...and the list continues. Hooch, sura, desi daru, khopdi, lattha etc. Only the names differ, but the outcome remains the same... Hundreds of people lose their lives and more become blind. The killer is nothing other than methyl alcohol. Methyl alcohol is also called wood alcohol, wood spirit, wood naphtha, pyroxylic spirit or methanol. Methanol is obtained by destructive distillation of wood or molasses, and is used as a solvent for shellac, gums, fats and varnishes, for cinematography films and also as an anti-freeze. It is also used for denaturing rectified spirit so as to render it undrinkable.
Methyl alcohol in any form is poisonous. With a view to make denatured spirit nauseating and abhorrent for potable use, the government had tried many methods to restrict its use among degenerate drinkers but with little success.
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http://www.aarogya.com/Legalities/medijuri/alcohol.asp
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
It is strange that people who don't know the difference between methyl alcohol, and ethyl alcohol tend to give big sermons.
Dear Joe
Even today 'spirits of wine' mean all types of drinkable alcohols, like brandy ,whiskey,etc..
So, you now know that Hahn. is very precise with the words he uses, and is more knowledgable than you.
In your eagerness to pounce on me you thought 'spirit of wines' mean something else.
How did you imagine that Hahn. will give such a dangerous advice, as you erraneously thought?
Please think before you leap.
Otherwise you will fall straight on your face on the hard floor, and may likely to get disfigured beyond repair.
Murthy
Dear Joe
Even today 'spirits of wine' mean all types of drinkable alcohols, like brandy ,whiskey,etc..
So, you now know that Hahn. is very precise with the words he uses, and is more knowledgable than you.
In your eagerness to pounce on me you thought 'spirit of wines' mean something else.
How did you imagine that Hahn. will give such a dangerous advice, as you erraneously thought?
Please think before you leap.
Otherwise you will fall straight on your face on the hard floor, and may likely to get disfigured beyond repair.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
So, do you accept that I 'paid you back with interest?
Dear Joe
You are no match to me. Quit it.
Murthy
Dear Joe
You are no match to me. Quit it.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
saltOftheEarth last decade
vkothari80 last decade
Hi Joe and Gavin
I have seen through many posts that you have different approach to medicines and its your choice.
Its good that you are here to give proper guidance but at the same time it confuses people like me who don't have enough medical knowledge
I will try Arnica 30 c and see what results i get.
Also can some tell me about rosemary oil benefits becuase I don't have Arnica Q .
My hair are very thin in the front part and when i use oil I can see my scalp which is scary....
So hopefully Arnica 30c will help in thicking my hair and hair regrowth too
Thanks for your contribution.
I have seen through many posts that you have different approach to medicines and its your choice.
Its good that you are here to give proper guidance but at the same time it confuses people like me who don't have enough medical knowledge
I will try Arnica 30 c and see what results i get.
Also can some tell me about rosemary oil benefits becuase I don't have Arnica Q .
My hair are very thin in the front part and when i use oil I can see my scalp which is scary....
So hopefully Arnica 30c will help in thicking my hair and hair regrowth too
Thanks for your contribution.
vkothari80 last decade
Dear Joe
You have been bluffing that you haven't seen my responses on this thread.
Perhaps you forgot that you made a useless comment after reading what I said regarding the ethyl and methyl alcohol issue.
O.K. Here is your chance.
Defend what you said earlier on this thread logically.
Murthy
You have been bluffing that you haven't seen my responses on this thread.
Perhaps you forgot that you made a useless comment after reading what I said regarding the ethyl and methyl alcohol issue.
O.K. Here is your chance.
Defend what you said earlier on this thread logically.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Dear Vkothari
Please post your experiences with Arnica 30.
All the best.
Murthy
P.S. Don't mind these diversions. Some concepts get cleared through these, some times heated, discussions.
Murthy
Please post your experiences with Arnica 30.
All the best.
Murthy
P.S. Don't mind these diversions. Some concepts get cleared through these, some times heated, discussions.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Hi Murthy, Joe and other doctors
I read this posting by Kate which helped her in hair regrowth. I have raed about Saw Palmetto before.
Every morining make this drink. 1 cup soy milk or juice. 2 tablespoons of brewers yeast(high b vitamins and important amino acids for hair) 2 tbs wheat Germ, 1 table spoon of honey, 1 banana. Drink it every morning and you will see your hairloss stop completley and you will feel terrific. Along with this take this supplements: Saw Palmetto(it blocks DHT)and Zinc. Also mix: coconut oil,grapeseed oil and saw palmetto crushed flower powder, capiscan(chili pepper)and ginger powder. Mix this ingredients together and apply to hair rubbing only into roots before bed.
Should I take Saw Palmetto for hair lregrowth issues.
I am taking Arnica 30C now
Please provide your suggestions
Thanks
I read this posting by Kate which helped her in hair regrowth. I have raed about Saw Palmetto before.
Every morining make this drink. 1 cup soy milk or juice. 2 tablespoons of brewers yeast(high b vitamins and important amino acids for hair) 2 tbs wheat Germ, 1 table spoon of honey, 1 banana. Drink it every morning and you will see your hairloss stop completley and you will feel terrific. Along with this take this supplements: Saw Palmetto(it blocks DHT)and Zinc. Also mix: coconut oil,grapeseed oil and saw palmetto crushed flower powder, capiscan(chili pepper)and ginger powder. Mix this ingredients together and apply to hair rubbing only into roots before bed.
Should I take Saw Palmetto for hair lregrowth issues.
I am taking Arnica 30C now
Please provide your suggestions
Thanks
vkothari80 last decade
This is what Clarke writes
Ussher notes that the LOCAL use of Arnica produced an extraordinary growth of hair on a limb. This suggested the use of an oil mixed with arn. 1X in a case of baldness, which was followed with marked success.
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There are references in the homeopathic literature about Arnica helping hair loss, by using as an external application only.
I am yet to find a single instance, where it is said that internal administration also will help.
The fact that Arnica external application helped some people, is no guarantee that it will help each and everybody.
It is not 'similia similibus curantar' but only a clinical tip.
So, I always suggest to experiment with local application only.
Taking any medicine internally for months together, may induce proving.
about the other therapy I can't comment.
Murthy
Ussher notes that the LOCAL use of Arnica produced an extraordinary growth of hair on a limb. This suggested the use of an oil mixed with arn. 1X in a case of baldness, which was followed with marked success.
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There are references in the homeopathic literature about Arnica helping hair loss, by using as an external application only.
I am yet to find a single instance, where it is said that internal administration also will help.
The fact that Arnica external application helped some people, is no guarantee that it will help each and everybody.
It is not 'similia similibus curantar' but only a clinical tip.
So, I always suggest to experiment with local application only.
Taking any medicine internally for months together, may induce proving.
about the other therapy I can't comment.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Please type 'Hair Loss' into the Search Forums cage on the left and read the posts of those who were helped by the therapy that I prescribed including those who did not respond.
I have used Arnica 30c since 1996 every night and have yet to prove it.
I can only vouch for the fact that it has helped me to be more active and helpful to others than many who do not use it as I have done.
I have no hesitation in recommending it to anyone who would like to use it even on an experimental basis and observe how this remedy which has been proved to ease the flow of blood throughout the body can act like a tonic.
I have used Arnica 30c since 1996 every night and have yet to prove it.
I can only vouch for the fact that it has helped me to be more active and helpful to others than many who do not use it as I have done.
I have no hesitation in recommending it to anyone who would like to use it even on an experimental basis and observe how this remedy which has been proved to ease the flow of blood throughout the body can act like a tonic.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Let me be more clear that we are discussing about the efficacy of taking Arnica 30 internally, for hair loss.
As to the question of proving,read this thread
Arnica erections
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/96327/
Everybody will not prove Arnica. Those few, who are susceptible to Arnica, will prove it, if taken for long time.
To know more about susceptibility, read this thread.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/94264/
Murthy
As to the question of proving,read this thread
Arnica erections
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/96327/
Everybody will not prove Arnica. Those few, who are susceptible to Arnica, will prove it, if taken for long time.
To know more about susceptibility, read this thread.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/94264/
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Dear vkothari80,
Just to give a different perspective as to why anica can work with hair loss.
Every homooeopathic remedy acts on different tissues, organs, system etc. 'Physiological Materia Medica' by WM.H.Burt, MD gives a detail account of its physiological action.
Anica works on the blood vessels, heart,circulation and muscular system. It also has haematic action that is still not yet understood.
An increase blood flow to the head will facilitate hair growth.
Hope this information is useful.
Just to give a different perspective as to why anica can work with hair loss.
Every homooeopathic remedy acts on different tissues, organs, system etc. 'Physiological Materia Medica' by WM.H.Burt, MD gives a detail account of its physiological action.
Anica works on the blood vessels, heart,circulation and muscular system. It also has haematic action that is still not yet understood.
An increase blood flow to the head will facilitate hair growth.
Hope this information is useful.
chiongguo last decade
Dear chingguo,
Thaks for your input..Appreciate for your time
I know Arnica is a very active cure. But besides this site most of the other websites mentions Arnica for bruises.No one mentions about haor loss. So just curious.
I have been taking wet dose of Arnica for almost 1 month. But I have seen any improvement in my hair density or thickness. But I know homeopathy takes time.
Thanks again
Thaks for your input..Appreciate for your time
I know Arnica is a very active cure. But besides this site most of the other websites mentions Arnica for bruises.No one mentions about haor loss. So just curious.
I have been taking wet dose of Arnica for almost 1 month. But I have seen any improvement in my hair density or thickness. But I know homeopathy takes time.
Thanks again
vkothari80 last decade
Arnica is used in hair oils to arrest hair loss.
See ingredients of homeopathic hair oils.
Pankaj Varma
See ingredients of homeopathic hair oils.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Pankaj,
Thanks. I have tried homeopathic oils buts its difficult to get from stores here in USA.
Also does white iodine helps in correcting minor bald spots
Thanks
Thanks. I have tried homeopathic oils buts its difficult to get from stores here in USA.
Also does white iodine helps in correcting minor bald spots
Thanks
vkothari80 last decade
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
So you think that Arnica is good for hair
Is there any other homeopathic treatment which has better results
thanks
Is there any other homeopathic treatment which has better results
thanks
vkothari80 last decade
Dr Pankaj,
I didn't heard anything back from you
Since I am new to homeopathy, I don;t have too much knowledge about it.
Currently, I am using Dr Joe wet does Arnica treatment.
I have not seen any noticable result. But its just been 1 month. So I will wait for another month.
My hair are very thin and whenever I apply any oil, I can see my front scalp which was not the case before.
So please provide your input
Thanks
I didn't heard anything back from you
Since I am new to homeopathy, I don;t have too much knowledge about it.
Currently, I am using Dr Joe wet does Arnica treatment.
I have not seen any noticable result. But its just been 1 month. So I will wait for another month.
My hair are very thin and whenever I apply any oil, I can see my front scalp which was not the case before.
So please provide your input
Thanks
vkothari80 last decade
Hello
For hair loss Arnica 30 X or C three pallets in a bottle of water is not going to work. For some cases the medicine Arnica may work if that is the correct remady. Arnica is for any type of injury and trauma Body /Mind. If that is the cause for the hair loss it may work. But not in the dose mentioned here. Number one, if the 3 small pallets will work/it will lose the property after 24 hours when it is diluted in the water 100%. The medicine is prepared in Alchohol+Water solution and kept in pallets to preserve it. You can desolve 4 or 5 or 10 pallets under your tonge which will be the easy way. Adult person need 4 pallets. If it is 3 you need to put under the Tongue very carefully. Be sure that there is nothing in the mouth which has any taste. Any of the Homeopathic medicine 30 x or C can be tried with out fearing any side effect. There in nothing in the 30 C or X potency to make any side effect. If the Corresponding symptom is present, the remady will help to cure the problem, because it will help the body resolve the problem.
For hair loss Arnica 30 X or C three pallets in a bottle of water is not going to work. For some cases the medicine Arnica may work if that is the correct remady. Arnica is for any type of injury and trauma Body /Mind. If that is the cause for the hair loss it may work. But not in the dose mentioned here. Number one, if the 3 small pallets will work/it will lose the property after 24 hours when it is diluted in the water 100%. The medicine is prepared in Alchohol+Water solution and kept in pallets to preserve it. You can desolve 4 or 5 or 10 pallets under your tonge which will be the easy way. Adult person need 4 pallets. If it is 3 you need to put under the Tongue very carefully. Be sure that there is nothing in the mouth which has any taste. Any of the Homeopathic medicine 30 x or C can be tried with out fearing any side effect. There in nothing in the 30 C or X potency to make any side effect. If the Corresponding symptom is present, the remady will help to cure the problem, because it will help the body resolve the problem.
pollayil last decade
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