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When can homeo medicines do harm?
Suppose we have a case of diphtheria, and after due study Lachesis appears to be the most similar of all medicines and a dose is given.Now, when does Lachesis cease to be homoeopathic ?
When the symptoms that indicated it change, then it is no longer indicated.
If it is given at all after this change, it operates upon a different plane from what it did in its homoeopathicity, and if it acts at all it does not act curatively but depressingly.
In a chronic disease administer Sulphur when it is clearly indicated, and the symptoms disappear and the patient feels better.
Then the remedy ceases to be homoeopathic, and if it is administered longer whatever action it has, is neither homoeopathic nor desirable.
But man argues if a little will do good, more will do more good.
Enough to effect a change is all that can be homoeopathic ; when certain changes are effected then the physician must wait.
Enough medicine must be given to establish order, and as long as order continues after it has once begun, so long 'hands off.'
(From Kent's Philosophy)
Murthy
♥ gavinimurthy on 2006-10-31
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We will notice sometimes that symptoms take the wrong direction.
For instance, if you prescribe for a rheumatism of the knees or feet or for a rheumatism of the
hands, and relief takes place at once in the rheumatism of the extremities, but the patient is taken down with violent internal distress that settles in the region of the heart, or centres in the spine, you see at once a transference has taken place from circumference to centre, and the remedy must be antidoted at once, otherwise structural change will take place in that new site.
When diseases go from centre to circumference, going out from the centres of life, out from the heart, lungs, brain and spine, out from the interiors, upon the extremities, it is well.
So it is that we find most gouty patients get along best when their fingers and toes are in the worst condition.
To prescribe for this, and see the heart symptoms grow worse is a most uncomfortable state of affairs, for it is attended with a gradual downward tendency.
Eruptions upon the skin and affections in the extremities are good signs.
There is a great danger in selecting a remedy on external symptoms alone, i.e., selecting a remedy that corresponds only to the skin and ignoring all the symptoms that the patient may have, ignoring the whole economy and general state of the patient ; because it is true that that remedy that is related to the skin alone may drive in that skin disease and cause it to disappear while the patient himself is not cured.
Such a patient will remain sick until that eruption comes back again, or locates in another place.
(Kent's philosophy)
Murthy
For instance, if you prescribe for a rheumatism of the knees or feet or for a rheumatism of the
hands, and relief takes place at once in the rheumatism of the extremities, but the patient is taken down with violent internal distress that settles in the region of the heart, or centres in the spine, you see at once a transference has taken place from circumference to centre, and the remedy must be antidoted at once, otherwise structural change will take place in that new site.
When diseases go from centre to circumference, going out from the centres of life, out from the heart, lungs, brain and spine, out from the interiors, upon the extremities, it is well.
So it is that we find most gouty patients get along best when their fingers and toes are in the worst condition.
To prescribe for this, and see the heart symptoms grow worse is a most uncomfortable state of affairs, for it is attended with a gradual downward tendency.
Eruptions upon the skin and affections in the extremities are good signs.
There is a great danger in selecting a remedy on external symptoms alone, i.e., selecting a remedy that corresponds only to the skin and ignoring all the symptoms that the patient may have, ignoring the whole economy and general state of the patient ; because it is true that that remedy that is related to the skin alone may drive in that skin disease and cause it to disappear while the patient himself is not cured.
Such a patient will remain sick until that eruption comes back again, or locates in another place.
(Kent's philosophy)
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
When the vitality is low,for example for worn out,disesased,old people,higher potencies should never be given.
It is because, if the remedy happens to be the similimum,and if an aggravation occurs, they may not be able to withstand it, and may succumb to it.
Murthy
It is because, if the remedy happens to be the similimum,and if an aggravation occurs, they may not be able to withstand it, and may succumb to it.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
What about auto immun e disorders. Since the remedy is a stimulus, And the curative vital force is perverted can remedy do harm ie cause long term damage.?
Sycotic last decade
Take para neo plastic syndrome. Here a cancer ie, breast cancer is present. The immune response attacks the brain rather than the breast cancer. Giving a remedy to such a person may provoke a further stronger attack on the brain since the vital force is soo deranged. Is this possible?
Sycotic last decade
The symptoms picture keeps on changing in case of diseases like cancer/auto immune disorders.
It is necessary to keep changing the medicines at very frequent intervals,based on the evolving symptom picture.
As such,high potencies are contra indicated,in such cases, and the case management is normally done with lower potencies frequently repeated.
Homeopathy as such doesn't pose any extra danger in the cases as you have mentioned,provided the case management is done properly.
But, there are hardly a handful of homeopathic practitioners, who can handle such complicated cases.
The average neophyte practitioner will be doing a lot of good to the patient, if he refers such cases to a specialist rather than trying to handle them himself.
Murthy
It is necessary to keep changing the medicines at very frequent intervals,based on the evolving symptom picture.
As such,high potencies are contra indicated,in such cases, and the case management is normally done with lower potencies frequently repeated.
Homeopathy as such doesn't pose any extra danger in the cases as you have mentioned,provided the case management is done properly.
But, there are hardly a handful of homeopathic practitioners, who can handle such complicated cases.
The average neophyte practitioner will be doing a lot of good to the patient, if he refers such cases to a specialist rather than trying to handle them himself.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Frequent repetetion of even the indicated medicine,in unchanged potency, can bring unwanted changes, that are peculiar to the medicine, and some times it is difficult to reverse them.
Murthy
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
This well illustrates the the importance of low potency prescribing. In cases like the above mentioned the patient doesnt need a lot of stimulation in fact just the contrary. The problem with case such as this is that it may not be known to the patient or practictioner when treatment begins. Since we prescribe as you mentioned onthe present state . We can not see it all. i think that is why careful miasmatic prescribing is ideal.
Sycotic last decade
Miasmatic prescribing can be resorted to, if the patient is palliated enough,from the distressing symptoms.
The first goal is to bring relief to the patient, and for that purpose, the 'present' picture is the only guide.
Murthy
The first goal is to bring relief to the patient, and for that purpose, the 'present' picture is the only guide.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Potencies higher than 1M should never be self prescribed,as they are very very potent,and can wrought havoc even with your mental disposition,if wrongly used.
Murthy
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
I was seeing a case of autism solved by the potency 30 C Calcarea phos. Even though autism is always said to be chronic and deep effected disease. Please clear my doubt for deciding the potency. Is it possible that the same medicine in lower potency shows no result/aggravation and in higher it shows many improvements. If yes ...then how can we try with lower potency?
Dipika last decade
There are many factors involved in choosing the potency.
The vitality of the patient
the seat of the disease
the intensity of the problem
the type of concomitants involved.
and most important your confidence that the medicine selected is the correct choice.
It is true that sometimes 30 potency works, whereas 1M fails.
That is the reason,it is always better to start low,exhaust the option, and move to the next one in the scale.
Then you wouldn't miss much,and don't have to experiment back and forth.
So,many times you can start with 6c,then move on to 30c,200c,1M etc,sequentially.
Generally speaking, a really indicated medicine acts in all potencies. the lower potencies may have to be repeated more often, where as the higher potencies work fast and clean.
that is why for acute problems, where selection of medicine can be easy, as the symptoms will be striking,you can straight away start with a 200C.
For complicated problems, where there is a possibility that your selection may be only partially indicated, better to start low.
if you are sure,the enemy is in a particular house, you use the strongest ammunition to destroy it and kill him.
if you are not very sure,you don't want to risk damaging an innocent man's house,you will be cautious.
Murthy
The vitality of the patient
the seat of the disease
the intensity of the problem
the type of concomitants involved.
and most important your confidence that the medicine selected is the correct choice.
It is true that sometimes 30 potency works, whereas 1M fails.
That is the reason,it is always better to start low,exhaust the option, and move to the next one in the scale.
Then you wouldn't miss much,and don't have to experiment back and forth.
So,many times you can start with 6c,then move on to 30c,200c,1M etc,sequentially.
Generally speaking, a really indicated medicine acts in all potencies. the lower potencies may have to be repeated more often, where as the higher potencies work fast and clean.
that is why for acute problems, where selection of medicine can be easy, as the symptoms will be striking,you can straight away start with a 200C.
For complicated problems, where there is a possibility that your selection may be only partially indicated, better to start low.
if you are sure,the enemy is in a particular house, you use the strongest ammunition to destroy it and kill him.
if you are not very sure,you don't want to risk damaging an innocent man's house,you will be cautious.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
What is the meaning of exhausting the option? Is that the particular potency has stopped showing result?
Do people go from higher to low potency if side effect of higher is bad but it showed some remarkable improvement for which it was selected!
Do people go from higher to low potency if side effect of higher is bad but it showed some remarkable improvement for which it was selected!
Dipika last decade
yes.The particular potency no longer relieves, and you have to move higher.
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It is not a question of side effects.It is something like this.
You tried 200 and got good response three times. The fourth time there is no response.
Then you moved higher, and still no improvement.
cases like this,need rethinking, and many times a lower potency like 30 will be helpful.
Murthy
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It is not a question of side effects.It is something like this.
You tried 200 and got good response three times. The fourth time there is no response.
Then you moved higher, and still no improvement.
cases like this,need rethinking, and many times a lower potency like 30 will be helpful.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
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