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She reports that her sleep has improved as long as she remembers her dose. If she slacks off on her dosage, the insomnia returns.
This brings up a question, do homeopathic remedies work more like a treatment or like a cure? I know that some conditions are incurable, but in general I am wondering if these remedies are helpful only to manage symptoms or do they work to cure the cause of a condition?
How long do you think my daughter will need to take arnica for sleep? Do you think she might return to naturally sleeping on her own?
This brings up a question, do homeopathic remedies work more like a treatment or like a cure? I know that some conditions are incurable, but in general I am wondering if these remedies are helpful only to manage symptoms or do they work to cure the cause of a condition?
How long do you think my daughter will need to take arnica for sleep? Do you think she might return to naturally sleeping on her own?
Piranhica last decade
You have stated:
'She reports that her sleep has improved as long as she remembers her dose. If she slacks off on her dosage, the insomnia returns.'
I mentioned in my reply to an earlier post that I felt that a 15 year old girl should be well able to look after herself rather than request you the mother to do so. She is past that age when the parent has to look after the child which I too have done for my 3 sons the first of whom arrived 10 years after we were married and as a result he was given the greatest care that I could give him after he arrived. It seems to me that you may perhaps be the reason for her present status as you may be overprotective of her and in your anxiety gave her the 18 odd pills on a daily basis which I hope you have stopped. Please confirm.
I see that I have spent a lot of time patiently responding to your daily queries but you have not confirmed that she has made any positive progress other than just today to casually mention that her sleep improves whenever she remembers to take her Arnica dose. This attitude on both the part of the mother and the daughter is what really gets me when I am faced with a patient that does not seem to be interested in overcoming her problem which she has discovered for herself is helped by the Arnica that I prescribed a few weeks ago.
My advice to you is just to leave her alone and if she is not interested in overcoming her insomnia let her sit up and do some study and sleep will come naturally to her. If she takes Arnica as prescribed she will discover that all the other 18 pills that you have been feeding her will not be wanted any more.
Answering your question about Arnica you may like to know that I have taken Arnica nightly since 1996 and can recommend that anyone who is interested in a better state of health takes it also nightly. It can only do anyone who takes it a lot of good.
'She reports that her sleep has improved as long as she remembers her dose. If she slacks off on her dosage, the insomnia returns.'
I mentioned in my reply to an earlier post that I felt that a 15 year old girl should be well able to look after herself rather than request you the mother to do so. She is past that age when the parent has to look after the child which I too have done for my 3 sons the first of whom arrived 10 years after we were married and as a result he was given the greatest care that I could give him after he arrived. It seems to me that you may perhaps be the reason for her present status as you may be overprotective of her and in your anxiety gave her the 18 odd pills on a daily basis which I hope you have stopped. Please confirm.
I see that I have spent a lot of time patiently responding to your daily queries but you have not confirmed that she has made any positive progress other than just today to casually mention that her sleep improves whenever she remembers to take her Arnica dose. This attitude on both the part of the mother and the daughter is what really gets me when I am faced with a patient that does not seem to be interested in overcoming her problem which she has discovered for herself is helped by the Arnica that I prescribed a few weeks ago.
My advice to you is just to leave her alone and if she is not interested in overcoming her insomnia let her sit up and do some study and sleep will come naturally to her. If she takes Arnica as prescribed she will discover that all the other 18 pills that you have been feeding her will not be wanted any more.
Answering your question about Arnica you may like to know that I have taken Arnica nightly since 1996 and can recommend that anyone who is interested in a better state of health takes it also nightly. It can only do anyone who takes it a lot of good.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Piranhica, to answer your question, which seems to have been evaded above, Homoeopathy does indeed cure, WHEN it is properley prescribed in the classical manner, i.e one remedy at a time, one single dose, wait for reaction Otherwise, as you suggest above it is merely treatment, or 'palliation' as we term it, and can even be detrimental.
-Jacob.
-Jacob.
Hahnemania last decade
Dr. De Livera,
First, I would like to appologize if something I said has offended you. From the tone of your last post, it sounded like I had.
Next, I greatly appreciate your help. More than you know. I have seen my daughter suffering with her symptoms for 6+ years now, and your advise has given her more help than any other she has received to date. (with the exception of finding the natural gas leek in our home.) I will say it again-Thank you so much for your help.
Third, I did report on 8-26 that she had only taken the food based supplements for 2 months. When I contacted you initially, she was not taking these supplements. I stated that she was only taking one for pain. When you advised us to stop taking all medications and supplements, she stopped taking them. We have tried to follow your instruction as best I could.
Next, I did report to you that she had improvements on 9-18 and 10-4. Perhaps you didn't see this part of my post when you reviewed the case. If you needed more details about her progress, I will be happy to report. I was trying to keep my reports brief as to not take up too much of your time.
Fourth...I have left it up to her to remember her Arnica dose. When I did inquire as to whether she was remembering to take it, and how her symptoms were, I discovered that she has had times that she only remembers 2 of the 3 doses. And occasionally, when she only remembers one dose - that is when her sleep is difficult. I am leaving it up to her to remember to take it. But, I am also aware that if a migrage is severe, (as her are) a person's cognative skills are impaired-a common symptom of migranes and allergies. That is when I will remind her. I don't feel that showing a sick person understanding or compassion is wrong.
Last, my inquiry about homeopathy was purely to grow my knowledge of the medical approach, not to criticise the practice. I have been exposed to many different medical arts and some, like allopathy, that I don't agree with the 'drug the symptom' approach. I know that Homeopathy doesn't take that approach. I have a respect for Homeopathy but little experience and I just wanted to understand it better.
Thank you for letting me know that Arnica can be taken for long periods. My need to know was based on the fact that my son had a allergic reaction to it, and I want to be careful not to over medicate my daughter out of my own ignorance.
First, I would like to appologize if something I said has offended you. From the tone of your last post, it sounded like I had.
Next, I greatly appreciate your help. More than you know. I have seen my daughter suffering with her symptoms for 6+ years now, and your advise has given her more help than any other she has received to date. (with the exception of finding the natural gas leek in our home.) I will say it again-Thank you so much for your help.
Third, I did report on 8-26 that she had only taken the food based supplements for 2 months. When I contacted you initially, she was not taking these supplements. I stated that she was only taking one for pain. When you advised us to stop taking all medications and supplements, she stopped taking them. We have tried to follow your instruction as best I could.
Next, I did report to you that she had improvements on 9-18 and 10-4. Perhaps you didn't see this part of my post when you reviewed the case. If you needed more details about her progress, I will be happy to report. I was trying to keep my reports brief as to not take up too much of your time.
Fourth...I have left it up to her to remember her Arnica dose. When I did inquire as to whether she was remembering to take it, and how her symptoms were, I discovered that she has had times that she only remembers 2 of the 3 doses. And occasionally, when she only remembers one dose - that is when her sleep is difficult. I am leaving it up to her to remember to take it. But, I am also aware that if a migrage is severe, (as her are) a person's cognative skills are impaired-a common symptom of migranes and allergies. That is when I will remind her. I don't feel that showing a sick person understanding or compassion is wrong.
Last, my inquiry about homeopathy was purely to grow my knowledge of the medical approach, not to criticise the practice. I have been exposed to many different medical arts and some, like allopathy, that I don't agree with the 'drug the symptom' approach. I know that Homeopathy doesn't take that approach. I have a respect for Homeopathy but little experience and I just wanted to understand it better.
Thank you for letting me know that Arnica can be taken for long periods. My need to know was based on the fact that my son had a allergic reaction to it, and I want to be careful not to over medicate my daughter out of my own ignorance.
Piranhica last decade
Jacob-Thank you for the description of the classical approach. This helps me understand the other posts on this site as well.
Piranhica last decade
To Piranhica,
Please do not get me wrong. There is nothing for you to apologize for. I may have seemed to be annoyed with your handling of your 15 year old daughter and it is just that I wished to open your eyes to the realities of life where in the developed countries a 15 year old is accepted as an adult unlike here in Sri Lanka where a teenager at that age is still a dutiful child and the parents rule is law.
I do not know in which country you live and I cannot understand the reason for her ill health since the age of 5. I have not asked you for her statistics like height and weight as these too can be relevant in prescribing a remedy. You have consulted many doctors and you were giving her some 18 tablets as I remember. You must understand that tablets cannot bring back good health and I am glad that you have posted on the ABC where I and others can try to help your daughter.
My advice is that you continue the therapy I have indicated and await the advice of others who may be able to also help.
I hope that she takes sufficient liquids as this too is very important for her well being. A balanced home cooked diet is also essential.
PS
I am not a qualified to be addressed as Dr.
Please do not get me wrong. There is nothing for you to apologize for. I may have seemed to be annoyed with your handling of your 15 year old daughter and it is just that I wished to open your eyes to the realities of life where in the developed countries a 15 year old is accepted as an adult unlike here in Sri Lanka where a teenager at that age is still a dutiful child and the parents rule is law.
I do not know in which country you live and I cannot understand the reason for her ill health since the age of 5. I have not asked you for her statistics like height and weight as these too can be relevant in prescribing a remedy. You have consulted many doctors and you were giving her some 18 tablets as I remember. You must understand that tablets cannot bring back good health and I am glad that you have posted on the ABC where I and others can try to help your daughter.
My advice is that you continue the therapy I have indicated and await the advice of others who may be able to also help.
I hope that she takes sufficient liquids as this too is very important for her well being. A balanced home cooked diet is also essential.
PS
I am not a qualified to be addressed as Dr.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Piranhica, you're most welcome. Oh and as a p.s. & a fyi, NO remedy should be given long term, unless it is being given as a palliative (just to relieve symptoms), and even this should only be in very rare circumstances (such as terminal illness), as it can be detrimental, and cause some serious 'side effects' long term. This is based upon 200 years of careful observation by Classical Homoeopaths.
And Joe, what's this? Taking into account a patient's weight and height? I don't know about you converting us, but judging from some of the posts you've been making recently, it seems to be us 'converting' you ;)
And Joe, what's this? Taking into account a patient's weight and height? I don't know about you converting us, but judging from some of the posts you've been making recently, it seems to be us 'converting' you ;)
Hahnemania last decade
My daughter took the remedies faithfully for about two weeks. The headaches remained and her menses disappeared but her cramps came back. Upon more research, I have discovered that her symptoms fit perfectly the condition of weak or failing adrenal glands (http://www.drrind.com/article.asp). We have an appointment with a qualified doctor/homeopath. (It takes 5 weeks to get an appt...)
If anyone understands this condition, I would appreciate the help. She is not improving.
Jacob, I have appreciated your input immensely.
Joe, thank you for your help. I do want to say that I feel you have assumed many things about me and my family. Yes, we live in America, but I feel you have made incorrect conclusions about living here. Children here don't have amazing genes so that they mature faster than children in any other parts of the world. A 15 year old in America is still a maturing child. Mine are still under my care and respectfully live in my home. Any parent that leaves a 15 year old to their own devises is considered delinquent here, and can be inprisoned for abuse/neglect. I have seen worse neglect in other Asian contries where the government permits child sex trade. It is not so in America.
In many ways living where I do is wonderful but also difficult. There are many toxins in the water and the air. Fresh food without pesticides, chemicals or additives is very difficult to find.
Perhaps your perception of America is based on what you have seen in the movies or TV. As many of my very conservative friends and collegues like to say 'Hollywood lies.' Please don't believe everything the media, and movies protray about America. There are many good people here. They live quiet lives and their voices are often drowned out by the flashy media. Much of what Hollywood presents is a mix of truth and exageration or simply fiction for entertainment.
I appreciate many things about where I live, but it is not perfect. I learned that we humans are not so different by traveling and woking with others in war-torn countries or areas destroyed by natural disaster. Perhaps you will travel to America some day and realize we are not so different either. I suggest not staying in the big cities to meet the common people.
Mr. DeLivera, please be careful how you judge others or make assumptions about their status. I have very 2 sick children with unusual circumstances, and many doctors agree with me. But, that doesn't mean I am a bad person... I am just a mom who needs help finding healing for there unique condition and I won't give up until I do.
PS -I would have appreciated knowing that you are not a Dr. from the beginning. I applogize for the assumption.
Joe if you must take Arnica nightly to sleep for 10 years, then it is being used as a treatment, not a cure.
If anyone understands this condition, I would appreciate the help. She is not improving.
Jacob, I have appreciated your input immensely.
Joe, thank you for your help. I do want to say that I feel you have assumed many things about me and my family. Yes, we live in America, but I feel you have made incorrect conclusions about living here. Children here don't have amazing genes so that they mature faster than children in any other parts of the world. A 15 year old in America is still a maturing child. Mine are still under my care and respectfully live in my home. Any parent that leaves a 15 year old to their own devises is considered delinquent here, and can be inprisoned for abuse/neglect. I have seen worse neglect in other Asian contries where the government permits child sex trade. It is not so in America.
In many ways living where I do is wonderful but also difficult. There are many toxins in the water and the air. Fresh food without pesticides, chemicals or additives is very difficult to find.
Perhaps your perception of America is based on what you have seen in the movies or TV. As many of my very conservative friends and collegues like to say 'Hollywood lies.' Please don't believe everything the media, and movies protray about America. There are many good people here. They live quiet lives and their voices are often drowned out by the flashy media. Much of what Hollywood presents is a mix of truth and exageration or simply fiction for entertainment.
I appreciate many things about where I live, but it is not perfect. I learned that we humans are not so different by traveling and woking with others in war-torn countries or areas destroyed by natural disaster. Perhaps you will travel to America some day and realize we are not so different either. I suggest not staying in the big cities to meet the common people.
Mr. DeLivera, please be careful how you judge others or make assumptions about their status. I have very 2 sick children with unusual circumstances, and many doctors agree with me. But, that doesn't mean I am a bad person... I am just a mom who needs help finding healing for there unique condition and I won't give up until I do.
PS -I would have appreciated knowing that you are not a Dr. from the beginning. I applogize for the assumption.
Joe if you must take Arnica nightly to sleep for 10 years, then it is being used as a treatment, not a cure.
Piranhica last decade
You mentioned natural gas appliances leaking. If your daughter had a long exposure to the leak she may have maxed out on her ability to process out natural gas and similar toxins.
If she is in a clean air or all electric environment for a period of time and she begins to improve you have found the solution.
My wife can testify to this as she had the same symtoms and avoidance works.
If she is in a clean air or all electric environment for a period of time and she begins to improve you have found the solution.
My wife can testify to this as she had the same symtoms and avoidance works.
Charles Nelson last decade
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