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To Bali

I would have missed your post if I was not alerted to it by Pat.

I do wish that you had taken my advice and stayed with the Nat Phos / Arnica therapy that I recommended to you throughout and which has worked in many cases, successfully.

As I have informed you in your previous posts on GERD on other threads, you cannot possibly expect my therapy to be a quick fix for you as you have obviously suffered from it for some time, perhaps for years.

I am confident that it will work for you and will cure your GERD but it will take time unlike the drugs and other medication that you would have taken which I hope you have realized by now, only served to be a temporary stop gap that supressed your ailment but did not cure it. I can assure you that if you had used this therapy within the first 2 years when you first noticed the heartburn caused by hyperacidity, you would have joined the many hundreds, perhaps thousands of people who have used my therapy which resulted in a cure.

Answering your questions:

You may take 3 Nat Phos 6x tablets after 3 meals but do try to reduce your dosage as much as possible to enable your body to take control of your digestive system without the Nat Phos which it must eventually do in the near future.

The Arnica will heal the delicate tissue in your Esophagus which is now eroded by the gastric juices and you can take 3 teaspoonfuls after shaking the bottle hard every time.

Arnica will also control your Blood Pressure and you will see the result in a week when you will not need the Beta blocker drugs. This drug can also be the cause of your hyperacidity and GERD and will interfere with your eventual cure.

Suggest you reduce your dosage to just one tablet per day and monitor your BP daily with a digital BP gauge.

The shaking you do prior to each dose is succussion and it increases the potency of the remedy ever so slightly thereby making the body to react better with each dose.

You will have to use the Nat Phos for as long as you feel the need to control your GERD and when you are confident that you can do without it and do not suffer any distress after a meal, you can stop it.

I would suggest however that you use the Arnica 30 for the rest of your life as it will do you a lot of good as it has done for me for the last 11 years during which I have used it nightly.

I hope you do some exercise that will make you sweat it out as this is also am important part of the therapy and helps your body to recover from the after effects of all those nasty drugs which your doctors would gave you in the past and which you will not need in the future.

Please keep to just one thread as otherwise I would not have noticed your post on 2 new threads.

Hello Bali

It's my pleasure to help sick people. like you

You were of help to me also. As soon as I saw your thread, I remembered that I had not taken any Nat Phos 6x in a couple of days because I had left it in my vehicle. I was experiencing some discomfort and it dawned on me that it might be because I hadn't taken any Nat Phos 6x in two days.

I think we are slow to recognize just how much homeoapthy helps us because it works so gently and in such a subtle way.

I am having the same problems yu have been having and that is convincing myself that Nat Phos really does what Joes tells us it does.

I meant to write as soon as you made your first post, but I couldn't. The fireworks had just started and my dog was in a total frenzy. Then I have been very busy. For some reason, I needed to be rested to answer your post.

Makes me very happy to know you are doing so well.

You might even consider using the homemade Nat phos 6x that Girilal has made a post on. It's so much cheaper and it might even work better.

KEEP ON TAKING THE NAT PHOS 6x and let us know how you are doing?

Joe,

Maybe this is a good spot to ask this question. But can the Nat Phos 6x be taken in the wet dose? I seem to remember you or someone might have said that the biochemic tissue salts should not be made into the wet dose, but I'm not certain.

Thanks,

Will,

I believe that you had a problem with Hypertension and smoking last year. Did the therapy I suggested help you ?

Kuldeep has used Soda Phos in water to emulate the Nat Phos 6x with some success but I cannot get it here in Sri Lanka and cannot therefore comment.

I have always used and recommended the Nat Phos 6x tablets for helping with hyperacidity or after a heavy meal but do not know if this remedy in the wet dose has the same effect.

Suggest you use it in the wet dose and comment.

Joe,

I have reactive hypoglycemia, but not hypertension. The concern was, since Arnica had shown to reduce blood sugar in some diabetics, whether it would cause an unwanted drop in someone with hypoglycemia, which it didn't

And I was able to quit smoking last December using Arnica 30C wet dose twice per day, rather easily and it's now been six and a-half months.

I've made Nat Phos 6x in the wet dose and have used it occasionally like one would use Rolaids or any anti-acid. It does retain its effect and still works in the wet dose, but I've never used it consistently as my condition is gallbladder related and the effect of Nat Phos and some OTC remedies is unpredictable.

I think I'll try using it in the wet dose after two or three meals per day and see what happens, but I doubt it'll be effective with bloat if its related to the gallbladder.

I am glad that Arnica has helped you to quit smoking. You would be doing a service to all smokers if you will please post a thread which you can entitle 'How I quit Smoking'. This will prove to skeptics that Arnica has indeed helped you a heavy smoker, to quit as you stated easily.

The remedy for Gall stones is Berberis Vulgaris 30 which you can use also in the wet dose twice daily and see if it helps. You will have to be certain that you have gall stones before you use this remedy with an Xray.

Good to note that Nat Phos 6x in the wet dose is equally effective to the dry tablets. However you should use 3 tablets thrice daily to see if it helps your bloating which it will do if your diagnosis of gall stones is not confirmed and is due to GERD which is usually the more common reason.

I've had a sonogram and a CAT scan and they showed what they call sludge and a few small stones, not an advanced gallstone condition, but enough to apparently cause symptoms.

I'll have an endoscopy in early August. One symptom which puzzled doctors was that physical exertion causes the pressure to become worse, and it never fails to worsen the condition.

Do you think Berberis Vulgaris might help?

Joe,

Some additional information. I've never had a gallbladder attack, though I do experience pressure and occasional short pinching pain in that area. But from what I read, one can have gallbladder related symptoms short of the painful gallbladder attacks.

Berberis Vulgaris 30c in the wet dose is your remedy taken twice daily.

Stay with the Nat Phos 6x perferably in the dry tablet dose 2-3 tablets taken after meals as this will help with your GERD.

You may even discover that the projected endoscopy in August may not be necessary as I am confident that you will be much better by then.

Keep me posted of your response.

Well, looks like the time has come to report my results with Nat Phos 6x. So far it us looking like Joe De Livera is always right.

Have lost at least 5 lbs but have lost several inches. So my body looks like I lost more than 5 lbs.

I have not been paying any attention to my weight nor size because my concentration has been on nutrition and health. I have been eating more food than I have in the last 12 months thanks for Girilal/kuldeep and Pankaj Varma and Joe De Livera.

I have been wearing one piece short outfits that have ties on them so I didn't realize I had lost weight nor inches.

Yesterday, I took my measurements to make a dress. To my SURPRISE, I discovered I have lost several inches.

I'm in such shock that I cannot bring myself to cut the pattern. I think I will wait until this sinks in.


THANKS JOE FOR YOUR PERSISTENCE, YOUR INSISTENCE AND YOUR NON-DEVIATION, YOUR COMMITTMENT ABOUT WHAT YOU BELIEVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR GENUINE LOVE AND CONCERN.

I have a feeling I will have much more to report.

Now I better go get used to my new body.

To Bali

I believe that your GERD is slowly abating and with the Arnica you will be cured.

I noticed that you were taking other drugs and digestive enzumes. It is possible that they were responsible for your constipation and are not necessary any more as the Nat Phos will replace them. You should observe soft stools as soon as you stop the enzymes. Please report.

Suggest you eat normal home cooked food with fruit and veg and you should notice the difference from the many tablets that you were taking and which you should reduce. If you check your blood pressure you should notice that it has dropped. Please report.

Hello Bali

I took my very first tablet of Nat Phos 6x on May 11, 2006. On this date, I only took one tablet after a meal because I was terrified of aggrevations. I wrote to Joe to let him know that it caused my mouth to become extremely dry. He told me it was because I needed to take more than one. So I started taking two after a meal instead of one

May 22, 2006 I noticed that my nose no longer felt extremely congested while eating. According to Joe, that was the gastric juices going up my nose.

May 24, 2006 I no longer felt spasms in the area where the cardiac(stomach) sphincter is located.

Soon after I discovered that the Nat Phos 6x was not causing me any aggrevations, I increased my dosage to three tablets after each meal.

The bottle of Nat Phos 6x has 500 tablets in it. To date, I have taken all but 166 of them (plus one or two I dropped on the floor). I think one of them I did pick up inspired by kuldeep who taught me that dogs are healthy because they eat stuff of the floor. LOL I spilled the bottle out on a plate and counted them for you.

I also did take girilal's homemade nat phos 6x for a day, but decided to stick with the tablets out of fear of backtracking with my health. At soon as I get over my fear, I will get on the homemade remedy.

As far as when the weight and size started decreasing, I do not know. I rarely weigh myself and I didn't notice the change in my clothes. Probably also because I never look in the mirror and was not aware of how baggy my clothes looked and I was also wearing those one piece shorts that tie in the back.


I'm positive my size has changed because I had just made a bathingsuit and it fit me perfectly like no bathingsuit has ever fit me before. The day after I made my post here, I tried it on and it is way too big now.

I've been having problems with bloating in the area around my bra strap for many years. Went to many doctors trying to figure out why I kept outgrowing my bras so rapidly. No one had any answers for me. But the Nat phos 6x has finally gave me an asnwer. For the first time in many years, the measurement around my bust is normal and am no longer getting outrageaously bloated in that area.

I lost weight and my size decreased dramaticly although I have been eating a lot more food lately. More than I have in the past 12 months because my throat/esophogus was in such bad shape.

I actually thought I was gaining weight because I have been eating enough food to have gained some weight.

I eat a very plain diet. I make all my food at home which is primarily cooked vegestables and animal flesh (no beef). However, on June 30 I went out with my swimming pool buddies to pizza. They had the left overs packed up for me to take home. I don't know why they chose me to take it home. Now I assume it's probably because they saw how thin I was. I hadn't eaten pizza in over three years. I still lost weight although I ate pizza. I avoid all grains because it normally takes 3 days to digest.

Bali,

I have had some experience with constipation which I have gotton after eating bread(flour). I normally don't eat grains. Now that I am writing this for you, it just dawned on me that the pizza didn't constipate me so that is another benefit I received from Nat Phos 6x.

Wow! Bali you have been of great help to me again!!

Keep taking the Nat Phos 6x. It may have more surprises for you.

Get well soon and let us know how you are doing.

Joe's always right!!!!

Hello Bali

I have been wondering for years why I have been gaining so much weight with the little bit of food I eat and with the kind of food I eat. In my many years of knowledge and experience I have never heard of steamed veggies causing weight gain.

Since 1983 I gave up eating grains (flour and rice). Started eating potatoes in 1996 but on rare occassions.

My digestive system got a mess. Thanks to Joe De Livera. It's getting back to normal again. I always refer to Joe with his full name because he is very special.

THANKS AGAIN JOE!!! YOU HAVE SAVED MY LIFE!!!!

I am almost embarrassed by the reports in the posts above on the successful outcome of cases of GERD which I treated with my default remedies Nat Phos 6x and Arnica 30. I have always maintained that I am not a qualified homeopath but I do have the dedication to this science which has given me the opportunity of using many remedies for ailments that are not listed in the classical texts as a result of which I have been marked as one who rocks the homeopathic boat and is perhaps the reason for the wide spread criticism that I often encounter even on this forum by some pseudo classical types.

I felt that I should take this opportunity of once again projecting my viewpoint on the use of the Non classical approach towards healing which I am aware is held in utter scorn by the classical school of homeopaths who would never even dream of using simple remedies in the manner that I do to heal patients who usually come to Homeopathy as a last resort when after years of being under treatment from gastric specialists who would delight in prescribing various drugs that are used in medicine for GERD like Nexium, Prilosec, Tagamet, and Zantac to name only a few, all of which are expensive and are H2 blockers and operate by reducing the flow of acid in the stomach. They use these drugs when it is discovered that the patient does not react to the OTC drugs bases on Aluminium Hydroxide which were popular up to about a decade ago which operate by neutralizing the acidity in the stomach. All these powerful drugs serve only as palliatives and can by no means be considered as a cure of GERD in any form. They also have known side effects which are too numerous to list here. They all are only palliatives and members would have read on this and other threads how many patients have suffered for years, even up to 45 years with GERD, only to experience the blessed relief that my treatment of this seemingly chronic disease which sometimes ends in cancer, when in a few weeks on Nat Phos and Arnica they are able to return to normal health which is the right of every human being.

It is a matter of concern to me personally to note the reaction of the classical homeopathic fraternity to the methodology I use to treat ailments. I have no quarrel with them but I do resent their continued attacks on other forums which I have stopped visiting as I spent too much time in defending my position of treating the disease instead of virtually going round the bush and using the 'constitutional remedy' approach to solve a problem which I have proved is not at all necessary to cure a disease like GERD or others that I specialize in and which members of this forum may be aware of.

I do not rule out the use of the classical approach to cure but I feel that it is time that the classical homeopathic fraternity wakes up and condescends to use methods similar to my own which is to treat the disease, after taking into account the various factors that cause it, if it is considered pertinent to the diagnosis. The point that I wish to convey is that if a certain remedy has been proved to help a patient who suffers from GERD there is no possible excuse that can be made by the homeopath to use other remedies purported to be the classically sanctioned remedy merely because they are listed in the Homeopathic texts. Medicine and Homeopathy are progressing forward daily and with it new discoveries are made in both sciences. I believe that it would be foolish for the respective science to not use a drug or remedy merely because it is not officially sanctioned and permitted to be used if it has been discovered to also help the ailment being treated.

I can think of another serendipitous discovery on my part of using Arnica for the control of Diabetes. I had given this remedy to a Type I Diabetic to help cure his non healing wound and he discovered that his blood sugar level had dropped in a remarkable manner that he had not experienced ever before. Arnica is now being used in many homeopaths both here in Sri Lanka and in India and I presume in other parts of the world after I first announced my discovery on the Internet.

I do hope that others too will follow my example and not hesitate to use a remedy in the manner that I have done and if they too discover a response to a remedy that is not listed, I hope that they too will share their discovery with others on forums such as these.

I believe that this will help the forward march of this precious science into the future.

Joe,

Earlier we'd discussed my problem with bloating and the upcoming diagnostic tests. I went ahead with the tests. In trying to diagnose the problem, I've had a gallbladder scan, cat scan, colonoscopy and an endoscopy.

The gallbladder scan showed some sludge, but no stones. Colonoscopy was normal, showing no problems at all. The endoscopy showed three areas of inflammation in the stomach. The doctor won't quite call it gastritis, but it is pre-gastritis inflammation, I suppose. My esophagus was normal. They seem to think my symptoms are due to the stomach inflammation, and possible IBS. They gave me Bentyl which I took for twelve days with no improvement. I don't think it's IBS, but that's their default diagnosis.

My symptoms are:

Trapped gas or bloat which builds gradually throughout the day.
Often it increases noticeably about half an hour after a meal.
The trapped gas must be relieved by Rolaids, herb tea, and Nat Phos will also relieve it, but not cure the problem.
Almost all the gas is relieved upward by burping.
Physical activity makes it worse, much worse if activity is strenuous.

You recommended Berberis Vulgaris 30c in the wet dose earlier n(above), which I haven't tried yet. Do you still think that is what I should try?

Of course, I'm still taking Arnica 30C twice per day in the wet dose, and have some Nat Phos. If it'd be better to stop the Arnica for a time to try remedies for the bloating, I could do that, or whatever would give the best chance for something to work.

I've had about all the tests for the condition, so maybe we can find something that relieves it.

Thanks,

Will

Joe,

One more comment. I've seldom had any GERD symptoms, so the problem is the inflammation in the stomach and the bloating, and possibly IBS, though I don't think IBS is the problem.

Will

Joe,

Thought of something else. Because I have to order all remedies, it there are other possibilities you think of, please mention those also. It'd be about as cheap to just go ahead and order any other possibilities now than have to order other remedies later, even if I never used them.

Will

I believe that you are not taking sufficient Nat Phos 6x to permit this remedy to take over and cure your problem. The maximum dose is 4 tablets after a meal and you are cleared to take as many as you wish to ensure that your are comfortable after without the discomfort which is created by the lack of some essential enzymes that are being blocked by your Gall Bladder malfunction. I presume that you are also using the Berberis V and would like to have some feedback as to your response to it.

Joe,

I haven't tried the Berberis Vul 30C yet, but have it on order. I think there is some gallbladder involvement even though there are no hard stones, but what they call sludge, so the Berberis Vul 30C should help.

1. How much and how often do I take the Berberis Vul 30C?

2. My condition (based on the diagnostic tests) is not GERD, but inflammation or gastritis. And I rarely experience any reflux. Is Nat Phos 6X suitable for gastritis and trapped gas?

Thanks,

Will