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Fatigue/jjoint pain----kadifor Kadwa Page 3 of 4

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Mozard,

it is hard to nail things down with you- but that's ok.

1.So- pain is at ZERO? in other words there is no pain, just
occasional burning feelings?

2.When did the crying start? What was going on?
I mean did you have a certain amount of days with no pain and then
felt stable and started crying? Or what?

3. It is understandable to have this crying after a 70 day ordeal
where you were in constant survival states due to the pain.
It is like someone in a war zone, they can't cry, they just have to get
thru it.

4. How long has this gone on for ( the crying)
[message edited by simone717 on Thu, 04 Sep 2014 01:25:38 BST]
 
simone717 9 years ago
I am so sorry, I didn't see the last two lines of your email.
Yes, there is no pain that's correct, it may act but it's around a one when it does.

Mozard,

it is hard to nail things down with you- but that's ok.

1.So- pain is at ZERO? in other words there is no pain, just
occasional burning feelings?

2.When did the crying start? What was going on? I have been crying from the pain all along, pretty much, if the pain stopped I stopped. However, as of lately I just burst out crying no particular reason,

I mean did you have a certain amount of days with no pain and then
felt stable and started crying? Or what? I really feel because I had no pain killers for quite a while, that the pain affected me emotionally, it felt like torture. There is no other reason for me to be down, the pain definitely caused the depression..I am also having anxiety with it..

3. It is understandable to have this crying after a 70 day ordeal
where you were in constant survival states due to the pain.
It is like someone in a war zone, they can't cry, they just have get
thru it.

I did cry it was the only way to cope with my pains at the time, but the pains were constant and so was the crying with little breaks in between.

4. How long has this gone on for ( the crying).... It has been pretty bad since Sunday morning, ......

Thanks, Simone
[message edited by Mozard on Wed, 03 Sep 2014 23:09:42 BST]
 
Mozard 9 years ago
How long have you been on the Paxil?

I know you have been on it before.

You can start Mag phos 6x cell salt and Kali phos 6x cell salt

3 tabs of each at same time ( 6 tabs) and take 3 times a day
a half hour before lunch or dinner. This is for compulsive
crying.

Report back after 4 days.
 
simone717 9 years ago
I have been on paxil 3 days..
Yes, good memory. I have same situation happen to me one year ago..leg pain then depression...


I will follow your Rx...

Thanks
 
Mozard 9 years ago
Simone,

Quick question, I wasn't paying attention and accidentally took Ignatia 200c instead of Kali phos6x this afternoon,..I noticed I am feeling very tired, is this going to wear off? And is Ignatia a contraindications to Kali Phos.. Omg I am so embarrased
 
Mozard 9 years ago
Ignatia will wear off. However, it does make one tired very
often for a few days, and it does bring up emotional states
from the past that show up and have a shelf life of 15 minutes
to an hour or so and then on to the next thing.

It does not antidote or do anything to Kali Phos or Mag Phos.

I do not see how you can mix them up??? bc the cell salts would
be tablets- probably Hylands brand in white bottles.
 
simone717 9 years ago
Thanks for getting back to me. It is definitely making me tired. Yawning all day.. I put the pills in a bit of water and drink them ,I switched the bottles in error...
 
Mozard 9 years ago
It sounds like you have Kali phos 6x and Mag phos 6x in homeopathic
pill form. You should get them in cell salt form which are tablets like
small aspirin.

If you have Whole foods or Vitamin Shoppe near you they will have them.
Or order them off Vitacost online- put Kali Phos cell salt 6x in the search box-
etc- they are Hylands brand.

You just dissolve the tablets on the tongue.
 
simone717 9 years ago
Yes, you are correct. I have the pill form. I need to be honest I took something called vc15 by reckeweg it contains the following, IGNATIA 5x, citrus limonum 1x, hpus 10mg, coccolus 5x, hpus 1g,phosphorus acidum 3x, Sepua6x, and Zinc Metallicum around 10:30am about 1/2 teaspoon in water maybe less, then I took paxil one hour later, then around 1:50 pm I took the Ignatia.. Ignatia stopped the crying. however, about two hours later I stared feeling not myself , I also feel too numbed out since I took it, like I can't think quick..kind of spacy...emotionless, numb.not quick witted like I normally am....I never had this effect before...I am concerned...I feel over medicated or something that's the best way I can describe my feeling in the head..maybe too sedated..out of it ...I am so scared, how long will it take for this too pass , is it reversible???
I started taking paxil on Tuesday . I also took small amount of ativan Tuesday ...just an FYI...then i took Kali phos when you prescribed..

do you think the Ignatia interacted with Paxil?? or just too much Ignatia..I want to cry but I can't , complete opposite of yesterday.... My coorindqtion of function is slow...This is very scary....
I am foolish for doing this ...please advise, thanks
[message edited by Mozard on Sat, 06 Sep 2014 13:08:23 BST]
 
Mozard 9 years ago
Mozard,

no one can help you if you self prescribe-

You could easily antidote the sulphur and bring back
your leg pains.

You cannot take combo remedies.

You are having reactions to the Ignatia, this is the kind of
reactions Ignatia produces, it can last up to two weeks.

So you will have to just put up with it. It will pass.

If you take anymore stuff I can't help you out.

Get the cell salts in the right form.
 
simone717 9 years ago
Mozard,

I have given ignatia when indicated to people and they have
the same things going on that you do with it.

It can be uncomfortable, where you are sleepy, foggy, out of
it and old emotional states come up and then go. When it
has passed you will feel calmer. Do NOT interfere with it-
let it be, it is not going to last. Homeopathy is not Instant relief and you keep looking
for instant relief- it is a process and you must be patient.

Since you have been on paxil a short time, I would wean yourself
off of it now.

The kali phos and mag phos were/are to build back up
your nervous system on a cellular level.
[message edited by simone717 on Sat, 06 Sep 2014 16:52:15 BST]
 
simone717 9 years ago
Thank you for your prompt reply..I have clinical depression with anxiety..I think the anxiety is pretty high these days. OK I will ride it out...is it safe to take Kali phos when you tell me with paxil..I am hesitant to get off paxil..
 
Mozard 9 years ago
Yes.
 
simone717 9 years ago
One last thing, I get these 'flare ups' of fatigue..it comes on out of the blue..it has been happening for two years.it is contributing to my depression.when I first happened it came on really suddenly and nothing relieves my fatigue..then it would stop and happen again months later.last time I had fatigue was January 17, it happened in June and now again a few days ago..it is taking a huge toll on me mentally..if you could help me with this I would be forever grateful.I was told it is probably CFS...
 
Mozard 9 years ago
1. the first or second time this went on-were you on paxil or
any other drug or herb or remedy.

2. Did this happen now, after you took the combo remedy
or after you took Ignatia?
 
simone717 9 years ago
When it happened two years ago. I wasn't on anything.I was completely fine then suddenly this overwhelming fatigue hit me..it disappears and reappears.I can't get rid of this damn fatigue. When it happened a few days ago I did take the cells salts.I think was on paxil 2 days.no didn't happen after IgnatiA.I don't have an energy either..
[message edited by Mozard on Sat, 06 Sep 2014 19:24:07 BST]
[message edited by Mozard on Sat, 06 Sep 2014 19:25:03 BST]
 
Mozard 9 years ago
All tests negative, except have Hashimotos , ebv, cmv, parvo, mycoplasma pneumonia. All high igg...forgot to add this..Dr told me I have severe immune deficiency..
[message edited by Mozard on Sat, 06 Sep 2014 19:48:53 BST]
 
Mozard 9 years ago
How is the Hashimoto being treated?

How is the myco pneumonia being
treated?

Mycoplasma infection is usually treated with a macrolide antibiotic, usually erythromycin or roxithromycin. These reduce infectivity to others, and may improve respiratory symptoms as well as associated skin rash.

It is not known specifically what causes Hashimoto’s disease and what causes the body’s immune system to suddenly see the thyroid as a foreign object and begin an attack. One theory is that low iodine (as well as certain minerals such as selenium, zinc, and iron) can lead to inflammation of the thyroid.

It is known that Hashimoto’s disease can be genetic. If your mother, grandmother, or aunt has Hashimoto’s disease, you are more likely to develop the disease.

Pregnancy can also be a strong precursor to developing Hashimoto’s disease due to the increased activity of the immune system.

A wide range of chronic infections, including Epstein Barr virus, HHV6, Lyme disease and mycoplasma to name a few, can cause Hashimoto’s. The chronic infections cause an imbalance in the immune system called a TH1 to TH2 shift. This results in dysfunctional immune system that is less able to fight invading organisms but is more likely to attack the body, causing a number of autoimmune diseases including Hashimoto’s. Such an immune shift is a hallmark of chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia and explains the high incidence of autoimmune disease in this population
 
simone717 9 years ago
Nothing being done for Hasimotos..
The Igm is Negative for Mycoplasma but igg is high so far nothing being done either..
Is this cfs fatigue curable with homeopathy?? Can you help me..
[message edited by Mozard on Sat, 06 Sep 2014 20:10:55 BST]
 
Mozard 9 years ago
You have a lot going on.

My concern was the leg pain. That part is over---

I think you need to get treated for the Hashimoto and perhaps
you need thyroid replacement medicine.

You have had people try on here and it did not work- for your
CFS-

I am glad the leg pain is gone-you need to find a Dr. that
can handle all of this- in person.
 
simone717 9 years ago
Do you think this immune deficiency can be treated and reversed with homeopathy?
 
Mozard 9 years ago
I think perhaps if you went to a very
good homeopath with experience in
this in person, or online via skype or
or phone and did private treatment.

You have to understand how homeopathy works and that it would take
time and it would bring up old things, and that you would commit
and have the patience to Wait.

For instance on the sulphur, when it aggravated, you could have easily
just started asking on here for anyone what else can I have or taken
other things yourself and totally ruined that action of the remedy.

And then you go around and around in circles doing that, making everything
more complicated and basically un- understandable from the homeopathic
system of looking at what is going on.

I think you would be better off with an integrative medicine MD to
supervise and get the correct facts and diagnosis of what started what
and trust that person.
 
simone717 9 years ago
Allergies perhaps mold triggered this whole thing..I am just scared...the regular Md told me immune sufficieny..no treatment as of yet...

By the way, The Ignatia wore off I am having crying spells since 2pm...like when you are grieving.
 
Mozard 9 years ago
Are the crying spells the same as the crying before you took
it?

Why do you say mold started it? What was going on with
mold and is going on with mold exposure? Is there hidden
mold in your house? Were you working in a damp building????
 
simone717 9 years ago
Are the crying spells the same as the crying before you took
it?
Yes the same, I cant hold my crying in..it has been like 4 hours now..


Why do you say mold started it?i
I started new job , the office I had smelled musty and I began to have severe allergies, which I never had previously, the I started get pains in m legs and fatigue started. I would get mo they flare ups of this.then went into remission,

What was going on with
mold and is going on with mold exposure
I think there was hidden mold in office.i was in office for one year. I was perfectly if before this job ..


? Is there hidden
mold in your house? Were you working in a damp building????

Not house, campy office, I had my own office..

Can one take ativan after Ignatia just curious how long you would have to wait..
[message edited by Mozard on Sat, 06 Sep 2014 23:05:42 BST]
 
Mozard 9 years ago
If you need to take the Ativan then go
ahead. You should keep up the cell salts.

If all this started from the Mold office. then you should go to the site-
www.survivingmold.com

This is Dr. Shoemaker. He retired from active practice in January, but apparently
you can join the site and ask him email questions for $19 a month.
He is an expert on mold illness and he taught another integrative med MD Dr. Ou
in Georgia who I have sent people to ( a year wait list!)


So to make this simpler for you- read thru the site. Mold illness is often misdiagnosed
as CFS and other things you have.

Dr. shoemaker has you get tests done for specific markers that indicate there is
a mold illness.

If you have high markers on those lab tests, then you get a prescription to start with
- a cholesterol medicine, and this particular medicine binds the biotoxins
in the gut so they are released and get out of your system. That is step One.

You should obviously state where you live and get some MD to work with you
on giving you the prescription and ordering these Lab tests which are covered
by insurance.

People can have a genetic weakness for mold- some do, some don't. But once you are exposed
you cannot live or be around mold or it will trigger the entire thing again and you will
have to go thru the steps to heal again.

So that is the route I think you should pursue at this time- to find out with lab tests
if you have the markers for mold illness. I have sent a couple people to Dr. Ou in Georgia,
for the same, and the regular Md's thought they were crazy or untreatable and it is not
true-( but they were also living with hidden mold and did not know it)
[message edited by simone717 on Sun, 07 Sep 2014 05:08:57 BST]
 
simone717 9 years ago

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