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When using homeopathy is it unussual for your symptoms to become worse before they become better?Rocky on 2004-05-08
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Unfortunately such aggravations happen quite often-to me they mean that the potency was too high for that person. If the remedy was right-the aggravations are followed by amelioration of symptoms.
Astra2012 last decade
This is what happens. I am taking Nux vomica 30c for allergies. When i take it my allergies get worse for several hours and then clear up for up for about a week. So i should take a smaller dose so that my symptoms dont get worse before they get better?
Rocky last decade
Rocky-
do you have to keep repeating the remedy to keep the allergy cleared?
It may mean that the remedy is similar (but not your similimum) and only supresses your symptoms -not curing you.You might need another remedy.
Or if it comes back but LESS aggresive every time- it might be a good remedy but I wouldn't use the same potency but go up each time you need to use it.
do you have to keep repeating the remedy to keep the allergy cleared?
It may mean that the remedy is similar (but not your similimum) and only supresses your symptoms -not curing you.You might need another remedy.
Or if it comes back but LESS aggresive every time- it might be a good remedy but I wouldn't use the same potency but go up each time you need to use it.
Astra2012 last decade
I have no idea what happened in my previous post.
I just wanted to clarify my first reeply:
if the remedy is your similimum and after aggravation of symptoms you have their amelioration (and they never come back so you are cured OR come but much weaker) you may safely conclude that the lower potency would work hopefully without aggravation.
Now, Samuel Hahnemann (hope you know about him) said that our vital force (body's healing mechanism) doesn't like getting unchanged potencies of the remedy, even small changes (ascending potency) would do. That's why (one of the reasons) some people with chronic diseases take the remedy in water. and that's why I said before that IF YOUR SYMPTOMS COME BACK weaker YOU NEED TO GO UP IN POTENCY.If they come back unchanged-this is only supressing and you need another remedy.
I just wanted to clarify my first reeply:
if the remedy is your similimum and after aggravation of symptoms you have their amelioration (and they never come back so you are cured OR come but much weaker) you may safely conclude that the lower potency would work hopefully without aggravation.
Now, Samuel Hahnemann (hope you know about him) said that our vital force (body's healing mechanism) doesn't like getting unchanged potencies of the remedy, even small changes (ascending potency) would do. That's why (one of the reasons) some people with chronic diseases take the remedy in water. and that's why I said before that IF YOUR SYMPTOMS COME BACK weaker YOU NEED TO GO UP IN POTENCY.If they come back unchanged-this is only supressing and you need another remedy.
Astra2012 last decade
It seems to only supress them for a while. I havent yet noticed if its actually making it less agressive or more agressive. I will try and pay attention to that! You said i should try increasing the dosage? 200c? BTW thanks for your advice!
Rocky last decade
Let's say nux vomica is the right remedy for you and after it first aggravate then ameliorate and then the symptoms come back but weaker.
and you need to take the next dose of the same remedy (since it's working). It is not advisable to take exactly the same potency (in fact people antidote that way) but since you had aggravations jumping to 200c maybe too high.
I recommend that you dissolve the dose of 30c in pure water (here you can buy spring water in 1l or smaller bottles-empty half of it) succusse 1-12 times -take a 1-4 teaspoonfuls of it when needed.
by succussing (pounding the bottom of the bottle against the palm of your other hand) you make it stronger.
How many times you succuse, how many teaspoonfuls you take depends on your reaction-always go up the next time.
You didn't say how often you need to take it, if this solution will stay longer than 2-3 weeks-add the teaspoonful of some clear alcohol.
and you need to take the next dose of the same remedy (since it's working). It is not advisable to take exactly the same potency (in fact people antidote that way) but since you had aggravations jumping to 200c maybe too high.
I recommend that you dissolve the dose of 30c in pure water (here you can buy spring water in 1l or smaller bottles-empty half of it) succusse 1-12 times -take a 1-4 teaspoonfuls of it when needed.
by succussing (pounding the bottom of the bottle against the palm of your other hand) you make it stronger.
How many times you succuse, how many teaspoonfuls you take depends on your reaction-always go up the next time.
You didn't say how often you need to take it, if this solution will stay longer than 2-3 weeks-add the teaspoonful of some clear alcohol.
Astra2012 last decade
I will try disolving the dose in water. How do i find another remedy if this is only supressing my symptoms?
Rocky last decade
In homeopathy there is
*a lenghty interview called case taking -homeopath tries to learn as much about you as s/he can, your total picture, so to speak. On this basis the remedy is chosen which is closest to you-that is: which in healthy people causes the symptoms that you have. To do this s/he uses repertory (matching symptoms to remedies) and when left with a few remedies -materia medica in which all homeopathic remedies are described (I'll paste Boericke's description of nux v. so you'll see)
**when the remedy is selected homeopath decides on posology: which potency and dose (some, "classicals"-like me-use single dose and then watch and wait approach, some give few high potency doses, some give 30c once a week (!I really met a homeopath who did this and had good results-so see, it is not that you were wrong! Homeopaths differ here a lot!)
then it is very difficult in chronic diseases case management: repeating the remedy, changing the remedy etc which is VERY individual, as homeopathy is
*a lenghty interview called case taking -homeopath tries to learn as much about you as s/he can, your total picture, so to speak. On this basis the remedy is chosen which is closest to you-that is: which in healthy people causes the symptoms that you have. To do this s/he uses repertory (matching symptoms to remedies) and when left with a few remedies -materia medica in which all homeopathic remedies are described (I'll paste Boericke's description of nux v. so you'll see)
**when the remedy is selected homeopath decides on posology: which potency and dose (some, "classicals"-like me-use single dose and then watch and wait approach, some give few high potency doses, some give 30c once a week (!I really met a homeopath who did this and had good results-so see, it is not that you were wrong! Homeopaths differ here a lot!)
then it is very difficult in chronic diseases case management: repeating the remedy, changing the remedy etc which is VERY individual, as homeopathy is
Astra2012 last decade
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HOMOPATHIC MATERIA MEDICA
by William BOERICKE, M.D.
Presented by Médi-T
NUX VOMICA
Poison-nut
Is the greatest of polychrests, because the bulk of its symptoms correspond in similarity with those of the commonest and most frequent of diseases. It is frequently the first remedy, indicated after much dosing, establishing a sort of equilibrium of forces and counteracting chronic effects.
Nux is pre-eminently the remedy for many of the conditions incident to modern life. The typical Nux patient is rather thin, spare, quick, active, nervous, and irritable. He does a good deal of mental work; has mental strains and leads a sedentary life, found in prolonged office work, overstudy, and close application to business, with its cares and anxieties. This indoor life and mental strain seeks stimulants, coffee, wine, possibly in excess; or, again, he hopes to quiet his excitement, by indulging in the sedative effects of tobacco, if not really a victim, to the seductive drugs, like opium, etc. These things are associated with other indulgences; at table, he takes preferably rich and stimulating food; wine and women play their part to make him forget the close application of the day. Late hours are a consequence; a thick head, dyspepsia, and irritable temper are the next day's inheritance. Now he takes some cathartic, liver pills, or mineral water, and soon gets into the habit of taking these things, which still further complicate matters. Since these frailties are more yielded to by men than women. Nux is pre-eminently a male remedy. These conditions, produce an irritable, nervous system, hypersensitive and over-impressionable, which Nux will do much to soothe and calm. Especially adapted to digestive disturbances, portal congestion, and hypochondrical states depending thereon. Convulsions, with consciousness; worse, touch, moving. Zealous fiery temperament. Nux patients are easily chilled, avoid open air, etc. Nux always seems to be out of tune; inharmonious spasmodic action.
Mind.--Very irritable: sensitive to all impressions. Ugly, malicious. Cannot bear noises, odors, light, etc. Does not want to be touched. Time passes too slowly. Even the least ailment affects her greatly. Disposed to reproach others. Sullen, fault-finding.
Head.--Headache in occiput or over eyes, with vertigo; brain feels turning in a circle. Oversensitiveness. Vertigo, with momentary loss of consciousness. Intoxicated feeling; worse, morning, mental exertion, tobacco, alcohol, coffee, open air. Pressing pain on vertex, as if a nail driven in. Vertigo in morning and after dinner. Scalp sensitive. Frontal headache, with desire to press the head against something. Congestive headache, associated with hæmorrhoids. Headache in the sunshine (Glon; Nat carb). Feels distended and sore within, after a debauch.
Eyes.--Photophobia; much worse in morning. Smarting dry sensation in inner canthi. Infra-orbital neuralgia, with watering of eyes. Optic nerve atrophy, from habitual use of intoxicants. Paresis of ocular muscles; worse, tobacco and stimulants. Orbital twitching radiating towards the occiput, Optic neuritis.
Ears.--Itching in ear through Eustachian tube. Auditory canal dry and sensitive. Otalgia; worse in bed. Hyperæsthesia of auditory nerves; loud sounds are painful, and anger him.
Nose.--Stuffed up, at night especially. Stuffy colds, snuffles, after exposure to dry, cold atmosphere; worse, in warm room. Odors tend to produce fainting. Coryza: fluent in daytime; stuffed up at night and outdoors; or alternates between nostrils. Bleeding in morning (Bry). Acrid discharge, but with stuffed up feeling.
Mouth.--Jaws, contracted. Small aphthous ulcers, with bloody saliva. First half of tongue clean; posterior covered with deep fur; white, yellow, cracked edges. Teeth ache; worse, cold things. Gums swollen, white, and bleeding.
Throat.--Rough, scraped feeling. Tickling after waking in morning. Sensation of roughness, tightness, and tension. Pharynx constricted. Uvula swollen. Stitches into ear.
Stomach.--Sour taste, and nausea in the morning, after eating. Weight and pain in stomach; worse, eating, some time after. Flatulence and pyrosis. Sour, bitter eructations. Nausea and vomiting, with much retching. Ravenous hunger, especially about a day before an attack of dyspepsia. Region of stomach very sensitive to pressure (Bry; Ars). Epigastrium bloated, with pressure s of a stone, several hours after eating. Desire for stimulants. Loves fats and tolerates them well (Puls opposite). Dyspepsia from drinking strong coffee. Difficult belching of gas. Wants to vomit, but cannot.
Abdomen.--Bruised soreness of abdominal walls (Apis; Sulph). Flatulent distension, with spasmodic colic. Colic from uncovering. Liver engorged, with stitches and soreness. Colic, with upward pressure, causing short breath, and desire for stool. Weakness of abdominal ring region. Strangulated hernia (Op). Forcing in lower abdomen towards genitals. Umbilical hernia of infants.
Stool.--Constipation, with frequent ineffectual urging, incomplete and unsatisfactory; feeling as if part remained unexpelled. Constriction of rectum. Irregular, peristaltic action; hence frequent ineffectual desire, or passing but small quantities at each attempt. Absence of all desire for defecation is a contra-indication. Alternate constipation and diarrha-after abuse of purgatives. Urging to stool felt throughout abdomen. Itching, blind hæmorrhoids, with ineffectual urging to stool; very painful; after drastic drugs. Diarrha after a debauch; worse, morning. Frequent small evacuations. Scanty stool, with much urging. Dysentery; stools relieve pains for a time. Constant uneasiness in rectum. Diarrha, with jaundice (Dig).
Urine.--Irritable bladder; from spasmodic sphincter. Frequent calls; little and often. Hæmaturia (Ipec; Tereb). Ineffectual urging, spasmodic and strangury. Renal colic extending to genitals, with dribbling urine. While urinating, itching in urethra and pain in neck of bladder.
Male.--Easily excited desire. Emissions from high living. Bad effects of sexual excesses. Constrictive pain in testicles. Orchitis (Hama; Puls). Spermatorrha, with dreams, backache, burning in spine, weakness and irritability.
Female.--Menses too early, lasts too long; always irregular, blood black (Cycl; Lach; Puls) with faint spells. Prolapsus uteri. Dysmenorrha, with pain in sacrum, and constant urging to stool. Inefficient labor-pains; extend to rectum, with desire for stool and frequent urination (Lil). Desire too strong. Metrorrhagia, with sensation as if bowels wanted to move.
Respiratory.--Catarrhal hoarseness, with scraping in throat. Spasmodic constriction. Asthma, with fullness in stomach, morning or after eating. Cough, with sensation as if something were torn loose in chest. Shallow respiration. Oppressed breathing. Tight, dry hacking cough; at times with bloody expectoration. Cough brings on bursting headache and bruised pain in epigastric region.
Back.--Backache in lumbar region. Burning in spine; worse, 3 to 4 am. Cervico-brachial neuralgia; worse, touch. Must situp in order to turn in bed. Bruised pain below scapulæ. Sitting is painful.
Extremities.--Arms and hands go to sleep. Paresis of arms, with shocks. Legs numb; feel paralyzed; cramps in calves and soles. Partial paralysis, from overexertion or getting soaked (Rhus). Cracking in knee-joints during motion. Drags his feet when walking. Sensation of sudden loss of power of arms and legs in the morning.
Sleep.--Cannot sleep after 3 am until towards morning; awakes feeling wretchedly. Drowsy after meals, and in early evening. Dreams full of bustle and hurry. Better after a short sleep, unless aroused.
Skin.--Body burning hot, especially face; yet cannot move or uncover without feeling chilly. Urticaria, with gastric derangement. Acne; skin red and blotchy.
Fever.--Cold stage predominates. Paroxysms anticipate in morning. Excessive rigor, with blueness of finger-nails. Aching in limbs and back, and gastric symptoms. Chilly; must be covered in every stage of fever. Perspiration sour; only one side of body. Chilliness on being uncovered, yet he does not allow being covered. Dry heat of the body.
Modalities.--Worse, morning, mental exertion, after eating, touch, spices, stimulants, narcotics, dry weather, cold. Better, from a nap, if allowed to finish it; in evening, while at rest, in damp, wet weather (Caust), strong pressure.
Relationship.--Nux seeds contain copper, notice the cramp-causing proclivites of both. Complementary; Sulphur; Sepia.
Inimical: Zinc.
Compare: Strychnia.
Compare: Kali carb; Hydr; Bry; Lyc; Graph.
Antidotes: Coff; Ignat; Cocc.
Dose.--First to thirtieth potency and higher. Nut is said to act best given in the evening.
Copyright © Médi-T 1999
Home
HOMOPATHIC MATERIA MEDICA
by William BOERICKE, M.D.
Presented by Médi-T
NUX VOMICA
Poison-nut
Is the greatest of polychrests, because the bulk of its symptoms correspond in similarity with those of the commonest and most frequent of diseases. It is frequently the first remedy, indicated after much dosing, establishing a sort of equilibrium of forces and counteracting chronic effects.
Nux is pre-eminently the remedy for many of the conditions incident to modern life. The typical Nux patient is rather thin, spare, quick, active, nervous, and irritable. He does a good deal of mental work; has mental strains and leads a sedentary life, found in prolonged office work, overstudy, and close application to business, with its cares and anxieties. This indoor life and mental strain seeks stimulants, coffee, wine, possibly in excess; or, again, he hopes to quiet his excitement, by indulging in the sedative effects of tobacco, if not really a victim, to the seductive drugs, like opium, etc. These things are associated with other indulgences; at table, he takes preferably rich and stimulating food; wine and women play their part to make him forget the close application of the day. Late hours are a consequence; a thick head, dyspepsia, and irritable temper are the next day's inheritance. Now he takes some cathartic, liver pills, or mineral water, and soon gets into the habit of taking these things, which still further complicate matters. Since these frailties are more yielded to by men than women. Nux is pre-eminently a male remedy. These conditions, produce an irritable, nervous system, hypersensitive and over-impressionable, which Nux will do much to soothe and calm. Especially adapted to digestive disturbances, portal congestion, and hypochondrical states depending thereon. Convulsions, with consciousness; worse, touch, moving. Zealous fiery temperament. Nux patients are easily chilled, avoid open air, etc. Nux always seems to be out of tune; inharmonious spasmodic action.
Mind.--Very irritable: sensitive to all impressions. Ugly, malicious. Cannot bear noises, odors, light, etc. Does not want to be touched. Time passes too slowly. Even the least ailment affects her greatly. Disposed to reproach others. Sullen, fault-finding.
Head.--Headache in occiput or over eyes, with vertigo; brain feels turning in a circle. Oversensitiveness. Vertigo, with momentary loss of consciousness. Intoxicated feeling; worse, morning, mental exertion, tobacco, alcohol, coffee, open air. Pressing pain on vertex, as if a nail driven in. Vertigo in morning and after dinner. Scalp sensitive. Frontal headache, with desire to press the head against something. Congestive headache, associated with hæmorrhoids. Headache in the sunshine (Glon; Nat carb). Feels distended and sore within, after a debauch.
Eyes.--Photophobia; much worse in morning. Smarting dry sensation in inner canthi. Infra-orbital neuralgia, with watering of eyes. Optic nerve atrophy, from habitual use of intoxicants. Paresis of ocular muscles; worse, tobacco and stimulants. Orbital twitching radiating towards the occiput, Optic neuritis.
Ears.--Itching in ear through Eustachian tube. Auditory canal dry and sensitive. Otalgia; worse in bed. Hyperæsthesia of auditory nerves; loud sounds are painful, and anger him.
Nose.--Stuffed up, at night especially. Stuffy colds, snuffles, after exposure to dry, cold atmosphere; worse, in warm room. Odors tend to produce fainting. Coryza: fluent in daytime; stuffed up at night and outdoors; or alternates between nostrils. Bleeding in morning (Bry). Acrid discharge, but with stuffed up feeling.
Mouth.--Jaws, contracted. Small aphthous ulcers, with bloody saliva. First half of tongue clean; posterior covered with deep fur; white, yellow, cracked edges. Teeth ache; worse, cold things. Gums swollen, white, and bleeding.
Throat.--Rough, scraped feeling. Tickling after waking in morning. Sensation of roughness, tightness, and tension. Pharynx constricted. Uvula swollen. Stitches into ear.
Stomach.--Sour taste, and nausea in the morning, after eating. Weight and pain in stomach; worse, eating, some time after. Flatulence and pyrosis. Sour, bitter eructations. Nausea and vomiting, with much retching. Ravenous hunger, especially about a day before an attack of dyspepsia. Region of stomach very sensitive to pressure (Bry; Ars). Epigastrium bloated, with pressure s of a stone, several hours after eating. Desire for stimulants. Loves fats and tolerates them well (Puls opposite). Dyspepsia from drinking strong coffee. Difficult belching of gas. Wants to vomit, but cannot.
Abdomen.--Bruised soreness of abdominal walls (Apis; Sulph). Flatulent distension, with spasmodic colic. Colic from uncovering. Liver engorged, with stitches and soreness. Colic, with upward pressure, causing short breath, and desire for stool. Weakness of abdominal ring region. Strangulated hernia (Op). Forcing in lower abdomen towards genitals. Umbilical hernia of infants.
Stool.--Constipation, with frequent ineffectual urging, incomplete and unsatisfactory; feeling as if part remained unexpelled. Constriction of rectum. Irregular, peristaltic action; hence frequent ineffectual desire, or passing but small quantities at each attempt. Absence of all desire for defecation is a contra-indication. Alternate constipation and diarrha-after abuse of purgatives. Urging to stool felt throughout abdomen. Itching, blind hæmorrhoids, with ineffectual urging to stool; very painful; after drastic drugs. Diarrha after a debauch; worse, morning. Frequent small evacuations. Scanty stool, with much urging. Dysentery; stools relieve pains for a time. Constant uneasiness in rectum. Diarrha, with jaundice (Dig).
Urine.--Irritable bladder; from spasmodic sphincter. Frequent calls; little and often. Hæmaturia (Ipec; Tereb). Ineffectual urging, spasmodic and strangury. Renal colic extending to genitals, with dribbling urine. While urinating, itching in urethra and pain in neck of bladder.
Male.--Easily excited desire. Emissions from high living. Bad effects of sexual excesses. Constrictive pain in testicles. Orchitis (Hama; Puls). Spermatorrha, with dreams, backache, burning in spine, weakness and irritability.
Female.--Menses too early, lasts too long; always irregular, blood black (Cycl; Lach; Puls) with faint spells. Prolapsus uteri. Dysmenorrha, with pain in sacrum, and constant urging to stool. Inefficient labor-pains; extend to rectum, with desire for stool and frequent urination (Lil). Desire too strong. Metrorrhagia, with sensation as if bowels wanted to move.
Respiratory.--Catarrhal hoarseness, with scraping in throat. Spasmodic constriction. Asthma, with fullness in stomach, morning or after eating. Cough, with sensation as if something were torn loose in chest. Shallow respiration. Oppressed breathing. Tight, dry hacking cough; at times with bloody expectoration. Cough brings on bursting headache and bruised pain in epigastric region.
Back.--Backache in lumbar region. Burning in spine; worse, 3 to 4 am. Cervico-brachial neuralgia; worse, touch. Must situp in order to turn in bed. Bruised pain below scapulæ. Sitting is painful.
Extremities.--Arms and hands go to sleep. Paresis of arms, with shocks. Legs numb; feel paralyzed; cramps in calves and soles. Partial paralysis, from overexertion or getting soaked (Rhus). Cracking in knee-joints during motion. Drags his feet when walking. Sensation of sudden loss of power of arms and legs in the morning.
Sleep.--Cannot sleep after 3 am until towards morning; awakes feeling wretchedly. Drowsy after meals, and in early evening. Dreams full of bustle and hurry. Better after a short sleep, unless aroused.
Skin.--Body burning hot, especially face; yet cannot move or uncover without feeling chilly. Urticaria, with gastric derangement. Acne; skin red and blotchy.
Fever.--Cold stage predominates. Paroxysms anticipate in morning. Excessive rigor, with blueness of finger-nails. Aching in limbs and back, and gastric symptoms. Chilly; must be covered in every stage of fever. Perspiration sour; only one side of body. Chilliness on being uncovered, yet he does not allow being covered. Dry heat of the body.
Modalities.--Worse, morning, mental exertion, after eating, touch, spices, stimulants, narcotics, dry weather, cold. Better, from a nap, if allowed to finish it; in evening, while at rest, in damp, wet weather (Caust), strong pressure.
Relationship.--Nux seeds contain copper, notice the cramp-causing proclivites of both. Complementary; Sulphur; Sepia.
Inimical: Zinc.
Compare: Strychnia.
Compare: Kali carb; Hydr; Bry; Lyc; Graph.
Antidotes: Coff; Ignat; Cocc.
Dose.--First to thirtieth potency and higher. Nut is said to act best given in the evening.
Copyright © Médi-T 1999
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Astra2012 last decade
Wow. I see a lot of the symptoms i have and a lot I dont! I dont know if thats a good thing or not. Interesting thing happend to me yesterday, I went swimming and water went up my nose and seemed to bring out my allergies at least in one nostril. Is it really possible to cure seasonal allergies? Starting to seem kinda hopeless. If its not one thing its another lol. I tried the water bottle thing you wrote about and it seems to have helped the agrivation from the pool for now. How do i know when to stop trying one remedy and look for another? By the way i really apritiate you trying to help me out here!
Rocky last decade
A remedy has many symptoms in iuts picture-of course you don't need to have all of them.(it's even not possible)
However it needs to have most (if not all) of your symptoms!
Are you allergic to chlorine in pools?
Seasonal allergies can be cured - and actually my brother cured his with some combination remedy! (just luck-besides it was a 5th combination remedy). But he did it.
If the remedy is working (actually the remedy only starts your own healing mechanisms) you'll notice some POSITIVE changes, which differ from person to person (even more energy or just the feeling of well-being) less agressive symptoms if they keep coming back (and you hae to repeat the remedy in higher potency).
You asked: How do i know when to stop trying one remedy and look for another?
Again-that's very individual-and it not only depends on your own symptoms but also on how much confidence you have in selected remedy. usually 2 (low)- 6 (high confidence) months.
However it needs to have most (if not all) of your symptoms!
Are you allergic to chlorine in pools?
Seasonal allergies can be cured - and actually my brother cured his with some combination remedy! (just luck-besides it was a 5th combination remedy). But he did it.
If the remedy is working (actually the remedy only starts your own healing mechanisms) you'll notice some POSITIVE changes, which differ from person to person (even more energy or just the feeling of well-being) less agressive symptoms if they keep coming back (and you hae to repeat the remedy in higher potency).
You asked: How do i know when to stop trying one remedy and look for another?
Again-that's very individual-and it not only depends on your own symptoms but also on how much confidence you have in selected remedy. usually 2 (low)- 6 (high confidence) months.
Astra2012 last decade
Astra2012 last decade
If i take a mixed pollen remedy and would that possibly cure my allergies? I dont understand how more of what is causing the problem would help the problem but i have read about people trying it? Any input?
Rocky last decade
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