Ad Tedium... _{Page 2 of 3}

Careful Mr Varma, your true colours are beginning to show, colours I saw from day one. It was also YOU who began with the personal comments again a few days ago, I merely responded, as I did the first time around. Also, are you saying you are NOT a travelling salesman by 'profession' then? It's nothing to be ashamed of, people will always need paperclips.

Your second post is interesting to say the least though.

Re: Mr.Organon - Head Explodes From PANKAJ VARMA on 2008-02-11
'Organon,
From your posts I gather that you are a very angry man...you must have been suppressed a lot in early childhood !

Pankaj Varma'

Just in case there is any confusion over this...'!'

Okay, now things have calmed down somewhat...

Mr Moderator.
Yes, and it is also just as possible I am not, as you have stated privately. Regardless though, this has nothing to do with anyone else, and is merely being used for the purposes of personal attack.

Who knows? I don't wish to appear rude Mr Moderator, but it is your JOB to know as Moderator of the forum. How can you even attempt to fairly moderate a forum when you do not look into who is even causing the problems?! This has no logic. Even this 'Timothy' character took the time to go through some posts to present a somewhat pertinent argument for his opinion, and he is just a regular member, why is it so impossible for you to go through posts and look to see where the cause of these arguments is coming from, and address this directly?
Until Mr Varma's comment above, which is clearly personal in nature, totally unprovoked, and out of the blue, I had not even mentioned the mans name since his last little attempt at 'attack'.
All I have ever done on this forum is RESPOND to the personal comments of others in the same manner I have been addressed, I have not once initiated this.
I will admit that at times I am very blunt in some of my posts, but only concerning the 'beliefs' of others, or the practice of Homoeopathy, I have not once initiated personal diatribe, unless someone has initiated this first, which they continually do.

Your fed up with it? I have better things to do than engage in these lame and childish arguments. I am here to prescribe for others, and to promote real Homoeopathy, as stated when I first arrived. It is not me who is engaging in constant unprovoked attacks, or making continual comments of a personal nature, it is one or two of your other members, and it needs to be dealt with the moment it starts.
Oh it is a clash of egos, but not mine, I couldn't care less about personal empowerment on the internet to be honest, I have a real life for that. The only time my 'ego' comes into play is as defence when I am 'attacked' without reason...because THAT'S what it's there for.

It is petty, but this ALL began, because a 'new guy' appeared here, who 'threatened' to take away some kind of imagined 'control' held by some of the regs on this forum, who became 'scared' and started making personal comments, followed by outrageous, unsubstantiated claims, and then unprovoked attacks to hold onto this, and this is not the first time this has hapened here.

This is your solution? just carry on insulting eachother chaps, and I'll ban the first person who crosses the line? Where is this line exactly, because it seems to be a long way from what I, and others would consider common decency, and adult behaviour.
No, this should have been addressed the moment it started again (a) by the immediate removal of all the posts by 'Timothy', above, which were nothing more than the continued unprovoked attack he began yesterday, and (b) by adressing Mr Varma's unprovoked personal comments.
If this had been done, we would not once again be in the situation we are now in.
You admitted to me privately that you allowed things to go too far last time this occured, and apologised for this, but regardless of the reason, you have allowed exactly the same thing to happen again.

The moderation here, needs to be tightened, so that other members, at times myself included, cannot simply get away with insulting others, and in the case of other members, get away with engaging in this totally unprovoked. Only then will there be more peace on this forum, which although maybe the busiest on the net, also has the worst reputation for this kind of behaviour.

Regards,

'Dr' O.

Dr Beek.

'I also belief, that my approach towards healing people will not interfere with the homeopathic approach of those who practice this.'

I strongly disagree, and that is my only reason for addressing your posts. I am sure your 'approach' may temporarily 'help' many people who are interested in such pursuits, but it is not medicine, and it is nothing to do with the practice of Homoeopathy, and as such, I have no idea why this is allowed here, but of course this is not my decision to make. I will though continue to call bullsh*t when I see bullsh*t.
There are too many 'spiritual gurus' riding on the coatails of Homoeopathy in my opinion, and part of my work is to ensure these ties are well and truly severed. Just as you must be true to your beliefs, I must be true to what I know.

Regards,

Dr O.

Then why do you not do just this Mr Varma? I had not even addressed you, why must YOU continually address me? It is your self control which is the issue here, not mine.

What is 'confirmed in your mind' is of no concern to me, but the very fact that you have brought this up again, I think speaks for itself regarding your motivations.
Mr Varma, I will point this out to you once and for all, you are in no position to help me with my own life, regardless of who you think I am, as in my 'opinion', you have too many issues of your own to address, and again, if I ever do need the help of another, I will go to someone who I trust, and who has both the knowledge and experience to provide such help. This is though totally irrelevant, as this was NOT your intention, and I do not care how many people you may be able to fool here, you do not fool me for a second, and never have. I find you underhand, 'manipulative', and purely driven by your own ego.

Actually, if you look, this thread was made by me, not 'Timothy', and 'Ad Tedium' means to go on and on indefinitely, in a monotonous fashion, just like these personal attacks, which was the reason for using it.

Yeah, see above.

I do not 'think' anything, but what I may or may not 'need', is no concern of yours. Kindly stay out of my business and resist further urges to make comments of a personal nature.

'Thank you'.

Dr Beek.

I fully understand the process of thought thank you, and the points you try to make, I just disagree with your assertions entirely, so there is nothing to 'learn'. Everything you state, to me, is completely irrelevant, as I simply look further, into the reason these thoughts occur in the first place, the cause, miasmatic disease. The rest of your post is therefore, again, irrelevant, this is what you do not seem to grasp.

Thank YOU for your input.

'Dr' O.

If such ambiguity exists, yes, I understand your point, but how is there any subjectivity involved, when a user makes a series of posts which are a continuation of an unproked personal attack he began the previous day, or when another member makes a post telling someone they are 'angry, had 'a supressed childhood', and needs 'help', totally out of the blue, and with no previous comments made to this person, by the member they were directed at? There exists no ambiguity here to me, as only the person in question knows what the truth of the situation is, and any comment on such things is purely inciting personal diatribe. THIS is what needs to be addressed here, the PERSONAL comments being made by other members. You cannot simply sit there and allow members to insult eachother, as the end result of this will always be escalation.

At the end of the day it is your choice whether you listen to the suggestions of members or not, but you have a role here, and this role is to keep the peace, and I do not see how you can hope to achieve this if you do not stop people insulting eachother, or curtail these ridiculous personal onslaughts being perpetrated by other members. As for 'Dr' Beek I see no 'approach' to disagree with, as I do not consider his methods either science or medicine. I do not want Mr Varma to be 'nice' to me, as I couldn't care less if I never saw the man's name again to be honest, but what I do 'want' is for him to cease making personal comments, and trying to incite further drama, and it is your job to enforce this. If you do not see how this is the case, then we obvioulsy have very different ideas on what the role of a moderator actually is, or the responsibility to fairness which comes from ANY position of power, no matter how small.

Why should III change, when it is not me who is not 'playing by the rules'? screw that. All I am asking, and expect, is that people show a little respect for both themselves, and others, by behaving like adults, rather than children.
'us' unagreeable types? ahh, now we are getting to the truth Simon, as this makes it pretty clear you have personal 'feelings' on this, and personal allegiances here, neither of which are things I either indulge in, or will ever understand. My only interests are fairness, and truth.

You are asking ME to leave, because other members cannot control there need for personal diatribe, or there need to put their own personal interests above fairness? No, I am not going anywhere. There are rules EVERYONE has to abide by, as these are greater than the 'personal interests' of any man, and I am not simply going to be run off this, or any other forum, because certain people are not 'emotionally' or 'spiritually' developed enough to realise this.

I also have no 'world view', as I deal only in reality, of which there is only one 'version', and this is neither shaped nor changed by mere personal interest, or 'belief', nor does it 'belong' to any one man. 'Individuality', 'personality', and especially 'beliefs', therefore, will only ever take second place to this.


Regards,
'Dr' O.

I do not assume anything of the sort Mr Girilal, and they are not MY problems.

No one knows EVERYTHING, but when it comes to Homoeopathy, I have met very few people who come close to the things I know, and for this I make no apology.

I also do not assume 'the other is dirt', and the only time it may come across this way, is when others have tried to engage me in some kind of personal discourse, for which I have no tolerance.

No, the majority of actual 'arguments' I have had here have been when another's point of view regarding the practice of Homoeopathy has simply fallen apart under scrutiny, and again, they resort to making personal comments as a defence, rather than admitting they were wrong.

I hope this clears up your confusion.

-Yawn.

'dr. organon, do you think if materia not used with the exact homeopathy guidelines may bring problems or you preach using purest form of homeopathy just to protect it.'

Both.

By curtailing this as soon as it begins? but you don't ask them, in the majority of cases, you just sit back, do nothing, and let it escalate. Extreme enough? what do you consider extreme? because personally, I think any kind of personal attack on another individual is unwarranted and unecessary. You can stop them in the first place, by making it clear such things are not tolerated, and that accounts will be suspended, this is pretty basic moderation stuff here. Only when provoked, and then my comments are far from passive, as I will be the first to admit, because I will not tolerate such things. I do not have a 'lack' of world view, I simply do not have one, as personal 'views' of the world are irrelevant, there simply is, what there is.

No, you have the 'powers' as moderator, to stop this, if you so wished.

...Okay?

Indeed there is, and how you could not have worked this out as quickly as I have, especially given their behaviour toward past members, which I have personally witnessed through reading old threads, is quite beyond me. A 'prickly attitude' will also develop in most people, if they are being continually provoked by others, it is a form of protection, and mine, toward certain members, has only appeared since I started posting here. I have not 'fallen out' with anyone, as I was never 'in' with them to begin with, I'm sorry if anyone thought otherwise. Ahhh! I can now see why members here are so ready to indulge in personal comments and attacks, if you are willing to indulge in these yourself. It is odd, as I thought a moderator was supposed to set an example, apparently not here.

Good, because as stated, I am going nowhere. This would not be a reason for my leaving, and I will never accept some of the behaviour I have witnessed since joining this forum as acceptable. Also, the only time people become an issue to me, in terms of their actual individual 'personalities', is when they indulge in the type of behaviour some here have. When debating in an adult fasion however, I hardly even pay attention to such things, they are irrelevant to me, unless I am analysing them for prospective treatment of course...

Oh I 'change' people everyday Mr Moderator...so we'll see.