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In other forum sajjadakram told that he treated a psoriasis patient by ignoring everything else but just focusing upon the external symptoms.
One can look for a miasm, there might me another miasm behind that misam and then there can be another.
Exploring at miasms as well mental symptoms is such that looking for an image in between two parallel mirrors.
One mirror is sufficient to reflect, more then one becomes a whole galaxy. More and more makes the whole problem a maze puzzle. John Stantan use to get lost in his own investigations.
One can look for a miasm, there might me another miasm behind that misam and then there can be another.
Exploring at miasms as well mental symptoms is such that looking for an image in between two parallel mirrors.
One mirror is sufficient to reflect, more then one becomes a whole galaxy. More and more makes the whole problem a maze puzzle. John Stantan use to get lost in his own investigations.
♡ girilal last decade
Giri
You might have read this at Hpathy. I am reposing here.
The miasmatic analysis:
1) When should we do it?
a) To open up a case, where there is a scarcity of symptoms due to various physical, emotional, or iatrogenic suppressions.
b) When we see a patient returning time and again for the same or similar complaint, even though the homeopathic remedies seemed to have acted quite well in each acute crisis.
2) How can we do it?
a) By selecting a medicine which covers the nature and character of the individual in the absence of any recognisable totality.
b) By enquiring into the following aspects
1) Hereditary influence
2) Strong Infectious diseases
3) Previous treatments and vaccinations
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Normally the remedy that is selected after making a thorough analysis of a well rounded up case , automatically covers the dominant miasm. Most of our medicines cover two miasms and some of them are trimiasmatic.
If a patient's totality with bone pains aggravated in the night points to Aurum Metallicum, where is the need to consider the miasm? The remedy ,if well selected will cover the dominant miasm automatically.
Many times I am pleasently surprised to see that the remedy selected on the symptoms alone without doing any miasmatic analysis normally covers the dominant miasm too.
As I pointed in my earlier post 'miasmatic analysis' is required when the symptoms don't clearly point to a single remedy.When you are unable to decide between two or three probable remedies, that is the time you have to think about the dominant miasm and open up your chart to see which medicine out of the three is covering the dominant miasm.
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Most of the homeopaths talk about suppressing/palliating without ever telling others what are the signs of suppression. It is just used to throw a doubt in the minds of patients, who tend to do self medication for minor acute problems.
The fact is, it is very difficult to suppress a case in acute situations. The intensity of the disease makes the action of even the energy of a long acting medicne exhaust very quickly, and that is why you find in the case histories of Doctors like Kent ,Nash and others the usage of a series of remedies one after the other till they find the correct medicine.
Even in chronic cases if the administration is strictly as per the homeopathic procedures, and if the true minimum dose is used without unnecessary repetetions, the danger of suppression is minimal even assuming that your initial remedy choice is wrong.
I know about suppression/palliation well enough and don't worry about that aspect. For the record none of the cases I handle got suppressed. The real suppression is jumping of the layers and it is very difficult to manage that , particularly for me who is very conservative with repetetions.
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Murthy
You might have read this at Hpathy. I am reposing here.
The miasmatic analysis:
1) When should we do it?
a) To open up a case, where there is a scarcity of symptoms due to various physical, emotional, or iatrogenic suppressions.
b) When we see a patient returning time and again for the same or similar complaint, even though the homeopathic remedies seemed to have acted quite well in each acute crisis.
2) How can we do it?
a) By selecting a medicine which covers the nature and character of the individual in the absence of any recognisable totality.
b) By enquiring into the following aspects
1) Hereditary influence
2) Strong Infectious diseases
3) Previous treatments and vaccinations
*********
Normally the remedy that is selected after making a thorough analysis of a well rounded up case , automatically covers the dominant miasm. Most of our medicines cover two miasms and some of them are trimiasmatic.
If a patient's totality with bone pains aggravated in the night points to Aurum Metallicum, where is the need to consider the miasm? The remedy ,if well selected will cover the dominant miasm automatically.
Many times I am pleasently surprised to see that the remedy selected on the symptoms alone without doing any miasmatic analysis normally covers the dominant miasm too.
As I pointed in my earlier post 'miasmatic analysis' is required when the symptoms don't clearly point to a single remedy.When you are unable to decide between two or three probable remedies, that is the time you have to think about the dominant miasm and open up your chart to see which medicine out of the three is covering the dominant miasm.
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Most of the homeopaths talk about suppressing/palliating without ever telling others what are the signs of suppression. It is just used to throw a doubt in the minds of patients, who tend to do self medication for minor acute problems.
The fact is, it is very difficult to suppress a case in acute situations. The intensity of the disease makes the action of even the energy of a long acting medicne exhaust very quickly, and that is why you find in the case histories of Doctors like Kent ,Nash and others the usage of a series of remedies one after the other till they find the correct medicine.
Even in chronic cases if the administration is strictly as per the homeopathic procedures, and if the true minimum dose is used without unnecessary repetetions, the danger of suppression is minimal even assuming that your initial remedy choice is wrong.
I know about suppression/palliation well enough and don't worry about that aspect. For the record none of the cases I handle got suppressed. The real suppression is jumping of the layers and it is very difficult to manage that , particularly for me who is very conservative with repetetions.
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Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Layer 1 upon Layer 2 upon Layer 3....some patients come with that type of constituion.
I call it One Drug Picture super-imposed on another Drug Picture and on a third one....
(Please see some of my old posts in the Archives)
I have found that running all the symptoms on the Remedy Finder here at ABC will throw up three top meds which correspond to the drug pictures super - imposed on each other ( you might call it layers).
Also helps to identify the miasm(s) that are dominant in the patient.
One has to then just decide which med to start with and which one to finish the case with....
.....that is where the skill,the understanding of homeopathy and experience of the prescriber play a vital role.
Joaquin's case is similar.
Pankaj Varma
I call it One Drug Picture super-imposed on another Drug Picture and on a third one....
(Please see some of my old posts in the Archives)
I have found that running all the symptoms on the Remedy Finder here at ABC will throw up three top meds which correspond to the drug pictures super - imposed on each other ( you might call it layers).
Also helps to identify the miasm(s) that are dominant in the patient.
One has to then just decide which med to start with and which one to finish the case with....
.....that is where the skill,the understanding of homeopathy and experience of the prescriber play a vital role.
Joaquin's case is similar.
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Gavin, I did not read that at hpathy. I have no good apatite for philosophies. Some people are philosophers and then they are nothing else.
as once I told about Jacob, that after a very long journey, one finds that his luggage has not arrived.
But with him luggage has arrived but person himself is missing. Asking a patient that if he scared of this and that, patient will most definitely reply that he is etc. I always ask patient if he/she has some extreme in the character and for how long.
as once I told about Jacob, that after a very long journey, one finds that his luggage has not arrived.
But with him luggage has arrived but person himself is missing. Asking a patient that if he scared of this and that, patient will most definitely reply that he is etc. I always ask patient if he/she has some extreme in the character and for how long.
♡ girilal last decade
Mr Moderator, the running and proper moderation of this forum is not my responsibility.
As stated, from the moment of my arrival here you have simply sat by and watched this man and others continually harass both myself and other members, by way of snide and personal remarks and done nothing. This was also despite COMPLETE non-retaliation on my part in the beginning, and my reporting each post as and when they occured. I have also been made aware of, and read several other threads where this man and others have continually hounded and harassed other new members to the point of retailation, whereupon they are promptoly banned.
The moderation here is a joke. It is completely unfair and biased, and as such I no longer have any desire to post here except for the purposes of warning patients of substandard, non-professional or dangerous advice.
I asked for your intervention from the moment this began and this was ignored, and I am afraid it is far from me who will be losing out as a result.
I do not tolerate those who try to manipulate or ignore the truth for their own personal interests.
Good luck with your forum.
As stated, from the moment of my arrival here you have simply sat by and watched this man and others continually harass both myself and other members, by way of snide and personal remarks and done nothing. This was also despite COMPLETE non-retaliation on my part in the beginning, and my reporting each post as and when they occured. I have also been made aware of, and read several other threads where this man and others have continually hounded and harassed other new members to the point of retailation, whereupon they are promptoly banned.
The moderation here is a joke. It is completely unfair and biased, and as such I no longer have any desire to post here except for the purposes of warning patients of substandard, non-professional or dangerous advice.
I asked for your intervention from the moment this began and this was ignored, and I am afraid it is far from me who will be losing out as a result.
I do not tolerate those who try to manipulate or ignore the truth for their own personal interests.
Good luck with your forum.
Dr Organon2 last decade
Dr Organnon,
When first you and Pankaj 'crossed swords', I emailed you to ask which post had offended you. You did not reply.
Whether you consider it fair or not, in my view, it seems that you have crossed the line, whereas Pankaj has not.
Older members have an advantage in that they know roughly where the line is drawn, but there is no bias beyond that.
Best Wishes,
Simon
When first you and Pankaj 'crossed swords', I emailed you to ask which post had offended you. You did not reply.
Whether you consider it fair or not, in my view, it seems that you have crossed the line, whereas Pankaj has not.
Older members have an advantage in that they know roughly where the line is drawn, but there is no bias beyond that.
Best Wishes,
Simon
♡ moderator last decade
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dr. Organon said: 'I do not tolerate those who try to manipulate or ignore the truth for their own personal interests.'
We all have our version of truth but we all can manage to happily co-exist here.
Dr. Organon arrived on this forum with 'I am Holier than Thou and you are dirt' approach.
It is like negate the rules and drive on the wrong side of highway -- what could be the result -- you will be colliding with everybody.
We all have our version of truth but we all can manage to happily co-exist here.
Dr. Organon arrived on this forum with 'I am Holier than Thou and you are dirt' approach.
It is like negate the rules and drive on the wrong side of highway -- what could be the result -- you will be colliding with everybody.
♡ girilal last decade
Even if we discover a one pure miasm, then there is no one medicine that fits to just one pure miasm.
♡ girilal last decade
Yes Giri
The miasmatic analysis is used only when the symptom similiarity doesn't point clearly to a single remedy, and a couple of them vow for attention.
In such cases, the remedy that covers the top miasmatic layer is chosen among them.
Miasmatic analysis is not a must for each and every case, even when it is chronic.
Murthy
The miasmatic analysis is used only when the symptom similiarity doesn't point clearly to a single remedy, and a couple of them vow for attention.
In such cases, the remedy that covers the top miasmatic layer is chosen among them.
Miasmatic analysis is not a must for each and every case, even when it is chronic.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
Gavini, when you lose something you even look at the places where there is no chance the thing could be found.
And when mostly thing is found on the most obvious place but somehow you missed it. This is homeopathy.
Place is obvious but missing happens.
And when mostly thing is found on the most obvious place but somehow you missed it. This is homeopathy.
Place is obvious but missing happens.
♡ girilal last decade
Hi Murthy,
You mean 'top miasmatic layer' as the symptoms added recently?
I read about treating first the predominant miasm.
You mean 'top miasmatic layer' as the symptoms added recently?
I read about treating first the predominant miasm.
Astra2012 last decade
Top should layer contains all symptoms.
In the galaxy, earth is different than all other planets, top layer tells most of the things about a planet. Man itself is a micro-cosmos.
In the galaxy, earth is different than all other planets, top layer tells most of the things about a planet. Man itself is a micro-cosmos.
♡ girilal last decade
Astra
At any point of time all of us will have traces (symptoms) of all the three miasms.
However the 'present' symptoms may point to a miasm strongly. For example nightly bone pains are an indication for Syphilis, and if Aurum Metallicum comes up in the analysis of totality along with say Merc.sol, normally aur.met is tried first, as it covers the syphilitic miasm .
Murthy
At any point of time all of us will have traces (symptoms) of all the three miasms.
However the 'present' symptoms may point to a miasm strongly. For example nightly bone pains are an indication for Syphilis, and if Aurum Metallicum comes up in the analysis of totality along with say Merc.sol, normally aur.met is tried first, as it covers the syphilitic miasm .
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
There is a way to prioritise symptoms. ALL symptoms won't enter the analysis. Perhaps a maximum of ten for the most intricate cases.
I strongly recommend you to read Dr.Luc's Hahn. revisited and Acheiving and maintaining the similimum.
These are the most practical books I ever read.
The 'never well since' gets the top priority next to any identifiable 'delusions'. The thermal modalities if prominent (particularly if they changed since the onset of disease) are to be added to the analysis. Next comes the very prominent 'desires' and 'aversions.' The CC gets the last priority along with the modalities specific to it.
Murthy
I strongly recommend you to read Dr.Luc's Hahn. revisited and Acheiving and maintaining the similimum.
These are the most practical books I ever read.
The 'never well since' gets the top priority next to any identifiable 'delusions'. The thermal modalities if prominent (particularly if they changed since the onset of disease) are to be added to the analysis. Next comes the very prominent 'desires' and 'aversions.' The CC gets the last priority along with the modalities specific to it.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
gavin murthy wrote: 'The 'never well since' gets the top priority next to any identifiable 'delusions'.'
That is what I said to Joaquin on the throat thread. Not one person justified their reccomendations based on the 'never well since' statements. He had 2 'never well since' events listed in his history.
That is what I said to Joaquin on the throat thread. Not one person justified their reccomendations based on the 'never well since' statements. He had 2 'never well since' events listed in his history.
Cordial last decade
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