brest pain

Conium 6c and Arnica 30c both taken in the Wet dose taken twice daily may help your pain which is perhaps caused by the swollen lymph glands.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.

Please note that you will make the 2 remedies into 2 separate bottles and you will take them about half an hour apart.

Stop all other remedies and treatment you are using today and report progress in a week or earlier if you discover any improvement in your pain level.

When did you start the Sepia? When was this in relation to the pain? Has the Sepia helped you in any way? Who prescribed the Sepia?

You stated:
'B/c alcohol base medicine does not go well with me.'

I do not understand your fear of the Liquid Dilution in Ethanol as you are obviously unaware that all the pellets you can buy are activated with the remedy in Ethanol. I have prescribed this Ethanol as the pellets are not as effective as the Ethanol remedy of which you will only use just 3 drops in 500ml water.

If you wish to be helped with my 'Joepathy' you must follow the detailed instructions that I have given you in my prescription precisely. My therapy has helped many patients who presented similar problems to yours and as far as I remember all of them were cured.

To Sadia

I am glad to note that the pain in your breast has responded to my Joepathy in just 4 days.

This form of an almost immediate response is not unusual at all as my 'This for That' therapy, which is unfortunately at the receiving end of many attacks from the classical homeopath who has also commented on this thread, is designed to cure the patient's ailment ASAP. His classical therapy may have helped to cure the symptoms that were responsible for your Breast pain, but this may have taken a few weeks, perhaps months to do so and you would have been left suffering with your pain which some ladies have informed me is agonizing.

I have always maintained that the patient expects to be cured if possible instantly and you have confirmed that you have been blessed with a cure in just 4 days.

You stated:

'I am glad that pain have been gone by 70%, but still i feel pain little deep in breast while standing up or doing some thing.
my shoulder pain (around shoulder edges are better) but on top, like next to neck i s very pain full (left side)
I fell my shoulder and left side still heavy.'

It is still early days into your cure and you will have to be a little patient and take the 2 remedies twice daily for a few more days and report progress.

You also state:
'in the evening i feel all sounds and lights are entering in my brain, i am steping carefully, i donot know if this is really happening or just i am feeling.
plz do recommend some thing for anexity. as i have stopped sepia and all mediciation i was using for depression.'

I can prescribe another remedy that can help your depression and pain but I prefer not to do so as I fear that it may even antidote the current therapy that is benefitting you so very quickly.

I would appreciate if you will please take time to give me a detailed listing of the etiology of your Breast Pain.

When did you first notice the pain in your Breast?
Did you have any accidental injury or crushing of your Breast?
When did you notice that you were depressed and can you describe the symptoms?
Did your breast pain have any connection with your depression?
What therapy were you prescribed when you consulted your doctors?
Was a Mammogram done? Biopsy?

To Sadia

'i changed my car, new car really have heavy stearing, i donot know if these factors have added in breast pain or not,

I wonder if your problem is due to the above factor. You can increase the air pressure of your front tires by 5 psi to make the steering lighter. Report response.

Thank you for recording the detailed information you have given. You have not indicated your age and for how long you have suffered from your breast pain.

Order Nat Mur 6x and take 3 tablets thrice daily for your 'depression' symptoms and report response.

I hope that you are doing some form of exercise like walking for at least half hour daily to sweat it out. Drink plenty of fluids daily up to 3 liters except coffee, canned beverages and acidic fruit juice. Avoid foods like preserved meats like sausages, ham bacon (Saltpeter) .

I believe that you are overly sensitive to the pain that you have experienced in your breasts. I am glad to learn that the pain is now down to 98% in just 2 weeks and you will soon find that you are not sensitive anymore.

You can do a gentle massage with baby oil twice daily as this will help to clear up any debris in the lymph glands in your breast which are blocking the passage of fluids which are the cause of your pain.

I hope that you do some exercise daily and I would recommend that you get a pair of 'Heavy Hands' cach about 2kg which you should be able to get at any Fitness store. You can exercise your arms and breast muscles by lifting them twice daily to help with your problem.

To David

I know that you will read this post within the hour. The time in Sydney now is just before 1.00PM and you can time yourself when you read this.

You will note that I was able to help this girl who presented her breast pain on March 8. Today after about 2 weeks on my Joepathy she reports that she is cured up to 98%.

As you are aware, I did not subject her to any long questionnaire as I was certain that Conium 6 and Arnica 30 will cure her.

I have not checked my Radar to verify if the 2 remedies are classically approved or otherwise. This takes too long as I have to start Parallels Desktop to access Radar which as you know is PC software and I use a MacBook Pro. I then have to put the Dongle into the USB socket and it all takes about 5 minutes of my time.

I preferred to use my 'Joepathy' to help this patient.

Any comments ?

Cure = removal of all symptoms, not improvement in one. There is no definite cure here.

No idea why you are addressing this to me considering how often we argue. I am sure you don't care at all about my opinion.

Pain is almost 98% gone = promising first step.

Heaviness is not gone = needs to be addressed.

I am really scared = patient's mental state has not improved.

Nobody has checked the Anxiety, the Depression, the Aggravation before menses, the feeling that all sounds and lights are entering her brain. You only state you will have to give more remedies for these - so you have not cured her.

Cure is very clearly defined in homoeopathy - one symptom improving cannot be called Cure. Cure takes place on all levels, mental, emotional, general, local, pathological - usually in that order (although Direction of Cure is not always so clear cut).

Cure must also be measured over time, if a symptom stays away permanently it can be called a cured symptom, assuming that more serious symptoms do not appear (in which case it hase been suppressed). Cure also does not require constant dosing, but remains stable even when the medicine is stopped (depending on the degree of tissue change present).

So please go ahead an cure this patient, for at present you have not done so.

Conium for breast pain and lymph node enlargement (especially hard nodes) is traditional homoeopathy. Stop claiming credit for something that has been ours since long before you were born. I have given Conium for EXACTLY this kind of presentation with good results.

I am copying my post on the link below which is a partial response to David's post above.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/269227/

'Joeopathy' versus David Kempson aka 'brisbanehomeopath'
From Joe De Liveraon 2011-03-225 replies53 viewsThis post is in response to 2 such posts which David Kempson aka 'brisbanehomeopath' has made on the ABC attacking the therapy I have prescribed to my patients. I presume that he feels the need to criticize me in this manner as he has in the past also attacked me on the basis that it is only he who is the arbiter of what constitutes 'classical homeopathy' which he reckons is the only therapy that can cure the ailment a patient presents for help on this Forum. I have often pointed out to him that some of his attacks have been made on the thread where the patient has confirmed that s/he had already been cured. I have also informed him on many occasions that I am not the only Homeopath who prescribes on the 'This for That' basis where I prescribe the obvious remedy that has cured previous cases of a similar nature to that presented by the patient, and which I am certain is the obvious remedy to cure the present case. According to him the patient must be subjected to about 100 questions many of which are not pertinent to the case as otherwise, according to him, the patient runs the risk of being afflicted by some other more dangerous disease which of course is a figment of his own imagination as this have never occurred in the past 40 years of my involvement in Homeopathy which I practice on a limited non professional basis purely for the satisfaction that it gives me to help suffering humanity.

I shall copy below a few threads where he has attacked me for purposes of record to enable anyone who may have the patience to read this long thread to realize what exactly is the reason for David's belligerent attitude against me.

I have a record of the responses that I have made to David on my computer and feel that they would make a Best Seller if published. The problem however is that his are often so inane that the public who may happen to read them may give up in utter disgust.

It is just that hoity toity attitude that he adopts in dealing with a case that annoys me as he seems to have taken upon himself the ownership of this precious Science of Homeopathy which according to him must only be used within the parameters set by the classical school who prefer to maintain that mystery about this science as it suits their ends financially where the patient is expected to return to the homeopath on a weekly basis at considerable cost.

I must mention here that I am not the only homeopath who prescribed in the 'this for that' manner as in the Indian subcontinent, the majority of homeopath do so as it will take too much of their time otherwise as each case will take over an hour and the average homeopath prescribes to at least 50 patients on a daily basis.

I would also like to record that Dr Prasanta Banerji the founder of the
BANERJI HOMEOPATHIC RESEARCH FOUNDATION, KOLKATA http://www.pbhrfindia.org/

also uses my therapy which he has clearly specified in his website above.

I shall now copy a post that I made in 2005 on the ABC which refers to the origins of the Wet dose and how this term first saw the light of day. It is now listed on Google with 1600 hits each of which is a case that I have treated.

Dr Luc de Schepper changes my outlook on Homeopathy
From Joe De Liveraon 2005-03-19
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Dr Luc de Schepper has completely changed my outlook on Homeopathy especially the method that I have used for the last 30 years to dispense and use remedies to cure ailments. He arrived here in Sri Lanka early this month as a member of Homeopaths Without Borders and I took him to the areas south of Colombo which were affected by the Tsunami that had been under the care of the 2 previous teams of 3 homeopaths in each group who serve for 3 weeks and are replaced by another team. I was unable to observe him treating his patients in the area around the train disaster which is now reckoned to have taken the greatest toll of human lives in the world. On his return to Colombo en route to the US yesterday I had the opportunity of witnessing at first hand the methods he used in consultation with his patients. I was able to invite many of my friends whom I had been treating for their various ailments and was able to observe at first hand his technique which as I said before, has completely changed my outlook on Homeopathy.

He uses the technique of succussing the remedy in water, which was first recorded by Hahnemann in his fourth edition. Dr Luc uses this method exclusively and he assured me that he discovered many years ago that this technique which is hardly used by homeopaths today, is far superior to the technique used by me and almost all other homeopaths of dispensing the remedies which are usually given in small lactose sugar balls activated with the remedy which are usually taken twice or thrice daily. I use neutral No 30 lactose balls which are 3mm ¯ and put in a few drops of the remedy onto these balls in a small glass container with a plastic cap.

Dr Luc's method is to use just 2 granules of No 10 lactose balls which are just 1mm ¯ which he has in a remedy kit of 100 remedies in little glass vials which he informed me is available in India. He uses a 500ml plastic bottle of water of which he decants about 200 ml keeping about 20ml in a paper cup. He then puts just 2 little balls of the remedy into the bottle with 300ml water which he succusses by banging it twice on the palm of his hand. He emphasized that this succussing was the secret of his method whereby the molecules of the 2 balls of the remedy potentizes the water in the bottle which I observed bubbles from the bottom to the top with each bang on the palm. He then took a teaspoonful of the potentized water which he stirred into half a cup of the water which he had decanted previously into it. A teaspoonful of the water from the cup is the remedy which is taken every other day for chronic ailments or daily for acute ailments. He explained in detail that this succussion which must be done daily before this procedure is repeated is the secret of the viability of the cure with the remedy as this tends to lift the potency of the already potentized remedy in the bottle to a slightly degree upwards thereby making it more effective in its effect on the body. This procedure may seem complicated but when it is observed, it is really not difficult.

Dr Luc exclusively uses the 6th potency for chronic cases which are taken every other day and the higher potencies up to 1M for acute cases both of which are succussed twice and taken if necessary every 2-3 hours.

Quite frankly I was very sceptical of the possibility of success in curing any ailment but I had living proof that this method works in the case of my wife and her sister who had been suffering for many years from Osteo Arthritis which is familial. I had been treating them with Bryonia 6c, Kali Phos 6x and Ferr Phos 6x taken 3 times daily for about 6 months after both sisters decided that their use of drugs including the Diclofenac group and other analgesics were only making a bad situation worse by also affecting their digestive systems and perhaps the liver. The discomfort of the arthritis was reduced with the Bry 6 in a few weeks but this was replaced by Sciatica for which I had given Hypericum. This remedy helped the Sciatica but could not eradicate it. On the first day Dr Luc arrived here I took the opportunity of consulting him on behalf of the two sisters who were present for the arthritis and sciatica and he prescribed Mendorrhinum 6c which he successed according to his method. It was the almost initial response of both sisters to this remedy that really converted me to Dr Luc's method as after the second dose which both sisters took about 2 weeks ago, they both felt considerable relief from their sciatica although the arthritic pain continued as he had instructed both to stop my treatment. He prescribed Sepia 6 just yesterday for their arthritis and assured us that this problem would also disappear in time with this remedy. He also confirmed his identification of this remedy by using Radar software which he uses whenever he wants to have double confirmation of his remedy.

I have mentioned Dr Luc's method of prescribing and using Homeopathic remedies in detail as I would like others who are interested and read this short article to also use it and post their comments on this Forum. As I stated in my first paragraph, I have changed my concept of the use of Homeopathic remedies to Dr Luc's method as I am convinced that this is an advance in the use of Homeopathy which Dr Luc and all his thousands of students use and practice in the US today which was first used and recorded by Hahnemann in his Fourth edition which we have all studied but have not used as he originally recommended.

I consider myself very fortunate to have had the opportunity of studying the methods used by Dr Luc yesterday at my residence in the treatment of patients whom I have been treating free of charge as I always have done for the last 25 years.

Joe De Livera

Colombo
Sri Lanka


I shall copy some posts made in the recent past to which I have responded above.



http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/268147

Re: help me pleaseFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-03-20Homoeopathy does not work according to the accepted principles of chemistry and pharmacology. When we create our medicines through a special process of Succussion and Dilution, the healing potential of a substance is released into the water. The water then carries the signature of this substance, which causes the body to react as if it had come in contact with it, but without any risk of toxic effects.

Wet dose is simply the administration of our medicines using water, rather than taking them straight into the mouth as 'dry' pills. The wet dose or water dose, is more effective for long term management and treatment of disease.

The Wet Dose was invented by Samuel Hahnemann over 150 years ago, the same man who invented Homoeopathy. It is not Joe's wet dose therapy whatever he implies, it is part of our traditional dosage methods.

You can go to this site to learn a bit more about it.

http://www.drluc.com/lecture-two.html


http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/267287/


To David KempsonFrom Joe De Livera on 2011-03-20To David

Did you notice that the patient has not responded to your post ?

It is possible that you have frightened her away with your statement:
'Shyveronster it is possible that you are experiencing an aggravation on the homoeopathic remedy. IF it is going to help you, this may be the first sign of that. With any aggravation you MUST stop the homoeopathic medication right away and wait a little while for it to die down. An aggravation is not to your advantage if it goes on too long. If the aggravation is because the remedy is suitable for your condition, once it stops you may see improvement.

An aggravation should not be treated with a second remedy - allow it to stop and then observe if there is any positive change.'

I consider your statement as utter rubbish.

FYI you may like to know that I have never had any reports of any aggravation after using my default remedy Arg Met 6c. I have had patients who have reported a reduction of their chronic arthritic pain after just 2 doses.

Suggest you prescribe Arg Met 6c in the Wet dose to your own patients and report their response.

Re: Suffering from ArthritisFrom brisbanehomoeopath on 2011-03-20Oh please Joe. Frightened her away - really. Stop being so dramatic.

Your delusion that you cannot aggravate your patients using our medicines is dangerous. Your lack of training and education, again, acts to the detriment of the people who come for help here.

Own up to what you do instead of dumping the responsibility. Homoeopathic medicines and their effects are clearly documented over hundreds of years of use.

Not really in the mood for your baiting me into arguments today. The patient can do whatever she feels is right for her - I have given my professional advice which I am sure you will continue to critize and make fun of, as is your usual strategy for dealing with those who know more than you do.



I have often beed advised by many Homeopaths and members of the ABC to leave David well alone and to ignore his inanities but I have always been a person who fights for what I consider is right even at my advanced age of 82 years of age. I believe that I have in doing so, contributed to this precious science of Homeopathy and many of my posts where I have detailed the therapy I have used successfully are recorded in my website.

www.joedelivera.com

I believe that I have also debunked the fallacy that David and his classical colleagues have sought to perpetrate that the cure of any ailment can only be achieved by classical homeopathy.

To Sadia

I am glad that I was able to cure you of the pain that you reported in your Breast on March 8 and this makes it just 18 days to a cure. The massage I recommended also helped in the cure and you are advised to do a gentle massage daily to avoid any future problems. This is to enable your Lymph glands to function without blockage which is the reason for your pain.

Arnica 30c in the Wet dose will also help your problem as it will clear the debris in your body and thereby prevent any blockage in your Lymph glands. Take just one dose for the rest of your life preferably just before bed.

It is unfortunate that my therapy attracted a lot of unnecessary harsh criticism from another member of the ABC and it is my hope that he will desist from criticizing it again as it is obvious today that you have been cured and not palliated as suggested by him.

I note that you now have a case of Shingles or Herpes Zoster which is a viral disease which is reputed to be very difficult to be cured and you can visit the link below for more information:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001861/
Shingles (herpes zoster) is a painful, blistering skin rash due to the varicella-zoster virus, the virus that causes chickenpox.


You state that you do not have any lesions and this make it more difficult for me to suggest a remedy for you.

There are a few Homeopathic remedies for Herpes to be used in the Wet dose twice daily that can help you and they are listed below:

Arnica 6c
Antimonium Tartrate 30c
Cantharis 30c
Rhus Tox 30c

I cannot be specific about which of the above remedies can help you and you can use them in the Wet dose taken twice daily in the order given. Please note that you will take each remedy for at least 4 days and if it does not help, you can then take the next on the list.

Report progress weekly.

What is the meaning of cure?

cure |kyoŏr|
verb [ trans. ]
1 relieve (a person or animal) of the symptoms of a disease or condition : he was cured of the disease | figurative centuries of science have not cured us of our superstitions.
• eliminate (a disease, condition, or injury) with medical treatment : this technology could be used to cure diabetes.
• solve (a problem) : stopping foreign investment is no way to cure the fundamental problem.
2 preserve (meat, fish, tobacco, or an animal skin) by various methods such as salting, drying, or smoking : some farmers cured their own bacon | [as adj. ] ( cured) home-cured ham.
• harden (rubber, plastic, concrete, etc.) after manufacture by a chemical process such as vulcanization.
• [ intrans. ] undergo this process.
noun
1 a substance or treatment that cures a disease or condition : the search for a cure for the common cold.
• restoration to health : he was beyond cure.
• a solution to a problem : the cure is to improve the clutch operation.
2 the process of curing rubber, plastic, or other material.
3 a Christian minister's pastoral charge or area of responsibility for spiritual ministry : a benefice involving the cure of souls.
• a parish.
DERIVATIVES
curer noun
ORIGIN Middle English (as a noun): from Old French curer (verb), cure (noun), both from Latin curare ‘take care of,’ from cura ‘care.’ The original noun senses were [care, concern, responsibility,] in particular spiritual care (hence sense 3). In late Middle English the senses [medical care] and [successful medical treatment] arose, and hence [remedy.]
curé |kyoŏˈrā; ˈkyoŏrˌā|
noun
a parish priest in a French-speaking country or region.
ORIGIN French, from medieval Latin curatus (see curate 1 ).
cur |kər|
noun
an aggressive dog or one that is in poor condition, esp. a mongrel.
• informal a contemptible man.
ORIGIN Middle English (in the general sense [dog] ): probably originally in cur-dog, perhaps from Old Norse kurr ‘grumbling.’

Dear Joe,

Thanks for your reply. In my whole life I just want to find out the answer of this question: What's the difference between cure and Homeopathic Cure?

When I was only 16 years old I see a woman came to my Grandfather for treatment. On that time I worked with my grandpa as his assistant. She (the patient) felt pain on lymph nodes of her right breast. After 1 months treatment she said when she came again to my grandpa's clinic, all of her complaint gone totally; pain, swollen, tight feeling, all. She was cured! 3 dose of Sillicea 1M done it. But, I was surprissed by my grandpa's next speech. He said, 'She must continue the treatment for 6 more month'. She (the patient) asked him, why as she felt (cured). She (the patient) reject to continue further treatment.

After 3 year ...

She died after suffering from Breast can-cer.

Do you understand what I want to say?

rahiq
[message edited by Info.rahiq on Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:01:22 GMT]

So the idea of cure in homoeopathy is not just to remove the symptoms (which orthodox medicine can do as well) but also to remove the underlying susceptibility to disease which can cause further problems for the person. The woman you mentioned would have died because her miasm, her chronic susceptibility, remained unchanged, uncured, even though she herself perceived the removal of current symptoms as enough.

It is a good story and a good lesson for us.