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naughty kitty and the wet pillows

Ectomoprhic black cat...prefers diet cat food to regular cat food (lower fat)...long and thin. Male, was adopted from humane shelter.

Spiteful...when angry will urinate on pillows or owner's clothes. There are four indoor cats, two males, two females. Since the day the black one came to the house he has attacked the large orange male cat who is twice his weight. The black cat seven years later is still trying to dominate although he has no change of winning. Doesn't learn.

Because of his aggessiveness we had to put him on Elavil or put him to sleep. He gets one tablet of 10 mg Amitriptyline daily in the morning.

Spends a lot of time sharping his claws. But wants to lie right next to us at night or sit next to us in a chair. Is usually thrown off when the claws come out. Wants to make friends with the dog who is disgusted at the idea.

Chases the females but is not as naturally bossy as the orange cat who may actually attack the females (Orange boss is Lycopodium without a doubt and this has helped urinary problems.)

Back to the black one who is the problem. No health problems, just personality. He was given Staph 200C for his anger and attacked the other cats for several days, but only very small improvement. Later given Nux Vomica 200 C for competitive drive, no improvement.

The black cat is afraid of outdoors and will bite, scratch, and wriggle if you try to take him out. Probably fear from being abandoned outdoors. This let us to try Stramotium, but I think I picked a bad potency because all I had on hand was 8X and I put this in his water. (impatient homeopath, not a good choice)

He pulled fur and fought with orange cat and wet all over the house for several days, so there was certainly a reaction. Should I try a high potency? Not familiar with Stramotium use. 220C, 1M ????

Any other ideas?
 
  museon on 2004-10-11
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Cats with abandonment issues generally respond to several doses of Natrum Mur 200C or 1M

Peeing on an owners clothes is letting the owner know that something is wrong with the cat or that the cat is mad at the owner. Cats do not do territorial marking out of stupidity, they are very clever in how they send their message across.

The cats claws can be trimmed with a cat claw scissors, right before the quick, to prevent them from harming the other cats or the owners.

As for the aggression, yeah, maybe Stramonium. This could be an adverse beahvioral reaction to a previous rabies shot. Rabies miasm. Only speculating here.

Consider these other remedies
BELLADONNA-Dilated pupils, glassy-eyed look, flying into a rage
HEPAR SULPH-
HYOSCYAMUS-Jealousy, excessive sniffing, animal mistrusts everyone.
LACHESIS-Jealousy and suspicion, worse after sleeping.
LYSSIN-Can be used on animals that do not respond to any other remedies for aggression as it tends to open the door to treatment.
MERCURIUS-Gum ailments, they bite and snarl when disciplined.
STRAMONIUM-Post-rabies aggression, fear triggers the aggression, fear of the dark and bright lights.

Only suggestions

Could be a territorial issue with the other male cat as well. Regardless, the symptoms are proof that the cat is trying to get a message across.

Tellington Touch, or T-Touch, will do wonders for the flight/fight response and will bring a positive change in the cats behavior.

Oh, make sure the cat litter boxes are in an open space, where the cat will not feel trapped by the owners or other cats. Make sure they are not by anything that makes noise, like the washer, dryer, ac unit. Cats assosciate litter box useage with a positive experience every time. Also, the best advice I read is to get a nightlight and put it by the litterbox. Cats cannot see in the dark...they can only see in low light. Has done wonders for my brigade of four-legged ones.

NAMASTE
 
Namaste29 last decade
Lots of ideas, thanks.

We have one large litterbox per cat and nightlights in all rooms. Urination is absolutely payback when in a snit. Maybe the bedroom door was closed or was put in a cage during a hurricane.

I wouldn't want to hold this cat while trying to cut its claws, not brave enough and then it would be pillow time in any case.

He did have lyssin after a rabies shot two years ago. No sniffing. Doesn't mistrust everyone, but yes Jealousy sounds like a good clue.

Will think some more about your suggestions.
 
museon last decade
What is T-touch? I do reiki, is it energetic or is it massage? He loves to be stroked.

Will try Nat Mur in a high potency, and probably a higher potency of Stramontium when I order.
 
museon last decade
hello...i too have a cat...a red persian named henry...the love of our family...he is the most gentle loving easy going cat...he is very affectioniate and the sweetest cat i have every known...he is strictly an indoor cat because he is so passive and i am afraid he would not defend himself well outdoors...i have had him for 4 years and i have never heard him hiss or seen him become aggressive in any way...he literally purrs all day long...but for the past 8 months he has started urinating on clothes, backpacks, our computer, the television, in the air return vents, really anything on the floor...needless to say he has ruined many things in our home and we are having to confine him in the kitchen which breaks my heart but i do not know what else to do. when i let him out in the afternoons...within a few minutes he will urinate on any of the above places mentioned...he will not do this in the kitchen where i am having to keep him unless a bag or clothes or a backpack is left in there. please...does anyone have any suggestions?? he gets so much attention and love i just do not know what has happened. he is very healthy and the vet has no answers.
 
flowertea last decade
When a cat has urinary problems they can get afraid of a litter box as it has memories of pain. Yours is a sweetie and the problem is probably an infection now or in the past.

Running from place to place to urinate is called by some "litter box roulette." The cat has inflammation which causes a feeling of fullness and he thinks he has to go. Wants to find a magic place that makes him feel better.

He could have crystals. Did the vet check for this? If at times he has copious stools or diarrhea also, then Lycopodium 30 C might help. Try it and repeat if the problem returns. It is what cured my male cat of infections.

If the diarrhea and the stools occur at the same time then try Mercurius corrosivus 30C once.

You don't mention treatment with antibiotics for urinary tract infections, but if he did receive this in the past then the remedy Nux vomica maybe in a 200C once could help.

A more specific remedy that works on the urinary tract and helps with possible crystals is Thlapsi. I just got this one myself to keep on hand. In fact, you might want to try this remedy first as your cat doesn't have the personality of the other remedies.

If you have tried all these with no luck, then try Thuja, not too low as it tends to aggravate.

Remember that the appearance of a symptom may worsen for a short time before it disappears as it is being cured. Don't expect results immediately. As long as the cat isn't sick allow about ten days to see if the problem improves before trying another remedy.

Give Henry a pat for me. We did pet rescue for some years and kept the ones no one else would tolerate, but we love them dearly.
 
museon last decade
Yes, ALL of these remedies are great suggestions.

Can I share with you all what helped my male cat who had urinary blockages from crystals and was running around urinating anywhere he could.

Homeopathic mother tincture Urtica Urens. A remedy not commonly mentioned for bladder infections/inflammation/urinary crystals. It re-acidifies the urine thus dissolving crystals and preventing future occurrences.

It really, really works and is a lifesaver if the urethra becomes completely blocked.

Also think about when Henry started this urination what happened prior to this. Was he neutered? Declawed? Something traumatic? What was his past like? What is his diet like?

You just want to rule out that this is not territorial marking but rather inflammation of the bladder like the previous post said. Two completely different issues.

P.S. I am a Master Teacher in Reiki as well, how neat to know you and I have that commoness. T-Touch is small circles made on the animals skin in a clockwise position, just moving the skin for no more than 5 minutes at a time. It helps them calm down so they have time to think ahead before choosing a negative behavior. There are courses available all over the place.


Bless you,
NAMASTE
 
Namaste29 last decade
Thanks for the information on Urtica urens, didn't know that.

The massage sounds right for the cat as he loves touch. We also use Rescue Remedy to calm him from time to time.
 
museon last decade
So it was T-touch what I was doing to my dog and cat!
They loved it (licked my hand so I know) when THEY felt it should bee over they just stood up and walked few steps (so again I knew).
I guess once I must have seen it on "Animal planet" or smth similar.
One of my cats-Calc. carb. -has mites (standard vet procedure is dip in some poison) and no hom rem seem to help-Any ideas? (he looks like an alien cat as they make spikes from his fur-then we cut his fur and he has bald back for few weeks. Other two cats are ok even though they live together - but they aren't overweight so can better groom themselves.
 
Astra2012 last decade
Fleabusters on the internet makes some great products that kills fleas and dust mites. Finely powdered Boric acid is what you sprinkle onto your carpets and furniture, because that is where they live 99 percent of the time. So for all you with fleas, check it out. Just sprinkled my carpets and furniture last week.

Astra, I am not sure what kind of mites your cat has. But I suggest getting a mild shampoo and adding a couple of dropper fulls of Neem oil to enough shampoo for a cat washing. Try washing them in your kitchen sink, it tends to go over easier than the tub. Neem oil is very bitter and it repels nasty insects, fleas, ticks, and probably mites.

Also, for the aggressive cat. Have you tried reiki on his liver and head? Is he receptive to touch? If not, try the distance technique.

In addition here is what I pulled from my notes on jeaousy/aggression in animals.

-APIS-Jeaousy with the desire to kill.
-LACHESIS-Jealousy with the desire to strike out.
-NUX VOMICA-Bossy, jealous, first in line for food, aggressiveness.
-PULSATILLA-Jealousy due to extreme neediness and desire for attention. Animals who dislike being left alone and who bark a lot.(this works for barking dogs. I used 1M on my dog 3 doses, 12 hours apart and she is cured).
-IGNATIA-use if there has been any past trauma, abuse, abandonment, past fears. This is a must to facilitate complete overall healing.

I have rescued cats and dogs and have been studying homeopathy on them for the past 5 years. Have been through a lot with them. A lot of success as well. I love to help all animals so anyone with any questions please feel free to post.

The best resource I found for homeopathic remedies for animals that nails it to a T is wholisticanimal on the internet. She is out of Australia and is amazing.



NAMASTE
 
Namaste29 last decade
..no way you can pscho-analyze human values on cat---natural for cat to behave as such in closed area --with 'females' and other male.....if this cats tendency was to be alone or circumstances have it in his past ---then calc-caps-phos-ac are other possibilities---look beyond your complaint of the cat--observe the cat
 
John Stanton last decade
John, have you lived and worked with cats for years? Namaste and I have and each has a definite personality. Yes, one does have to be careful not to put human values on them, but one male cat can be VERY much more dominant than another in a closed area. The fear reaction to going outside is quite unusual and must be due to trauma.

I had a previous black male cat with much the same appearance, but he was the peacemaker of the group and they all loved him.

I picked the remedies I did, and the ones Namaste picked sound like good possibilities. I think the cat is well observed. Sorry, to disagree.
 
museon last decade
Namaste, since you are also a reiki master, I have a question.

I see my aura (up to four levels). The second level which is the emotional one is seen as a cloud of color. When I take a remedy there is a change over time. Instead of the usual bright white for me, it turns smoky gray, then clear gray, then a beautiful silver, and finally as the remedy is nearing the end I go back to white and then bright white.

There is an alternative color with some remedies. I see an earth color orange tint on the face which gets lighter and clearer as time goes on.

I can also tell when a remedy is working because a very short time after taking one I hear an intense high pitched sound.

It is probably because of seven years doing energy healing that I am so hypersensitive to the field of remedies. Don't even get near the glass of someone else's remedy solution.

This probably sounds very strange to someone who doesn't work with energy, but I am curious if you have observed anything.

Will try reiki on the black cat, most cats take very little and walk away. Also printing your list of remedies. Thank you so much.
 
museon last decade
Namaste
The black cat bit and tore at his collar so we took it off. Possible clue to the Lachesis you mentioned. He is not a vocal cat like the orange male. The black cat (Jet) speaks rarely in a high pitched squeak when he wants attention. Gets it too.

Often requests to be fed separately from the other cats with his special rd prescription diet food. This was bought for the big, fat orange cat whose weight was brought down from 20 pounds to a healthy 14. The orange cat was a glutton and no food can be left out for the others as he pigs it all. We feed him separately now. The black cat was stealing his kibbles which is how we found out what he prefers.
 
museon last decade
John, thought over what you said. Spiteful is a human value word and actually incorrect. We have an aggessive cat who wants dominance, but was made to feel helpless (such as being forced to take a pill). He can't take on the owners directly so he "expresses" his challenge indirectly.
 
museon last decade
We took a stray skinny "kitten" and in two months she had 5 children! All of them were different (not just visually).Only one is overweighed- no wonder: he eats all the time.
Thanks, Namaste for the info and addresses-will check them out.
"Mites" isn't an official diagnosis- I'm VERY disillusioned with so called vet care after they offered to put to sleep my cat as a treatment for sudden hind leg paralysis (after some
T-touch+vitamins+time he was ok) and "just" to amputate his hind leg which developed a wound.And my vet has the opinion of being naturalistic (!) since you can sign your pet for the acupuncture treatments.
Oh, well, my pets are much better off without such care (except for these mites or whatever that is on Elvis.
 
Astra2012 last decade
Astra.

Try the neem oil shampoo bath. It will rid your cat of any unwanted pests.

YES!!!!! The collar incident with the black cat is a symptom of Lachesis, you hit the nail right on the head.

There is animal nature and human nature. If we did not share similar emotions then animals would not feel pain, hence as many scientists thought to be true eons ago.
My animals are people with fur. They share and express the exact same emotions that any human can possess.

Animals do have instincts and can be alpha (aggressive) or passive. But I have 3 male cats who all get along just fine, so with the black cat as you, the owner know, there is something else going on.

You will find the answer and at least you are willing to try. That says something in itself.

Bless you,
NAMASTE means "I honor the divine in you."
 
Namaste29 last decade
Also,

To each their own but I want to share with all of you that I use the BARF diet (bones and raw food) on my cats and dogs. All of them love it and are thriving. You would not feed a wolfe or a lion kibble, so that is what changed my thinking on the pet food industry.

If any of you are willing to look into it, the internet is loaded with lots of great information on this diet. It is so easy and you get what you pay for. A lot of people are put off by the idea of raw meat or having to prepare a meal for their animal. It is the best life insurance you can give to your pet. The only investment we made was in the meat grinder itself which has paid for itself ten times over.

Anyways just wanted to share this with you as knowledge is priceless as are the lives of your "little ones."

NAMASTE
 
Namaste29 last decade
Thanks Namaste, my dog was eating the raw food (eggs and ground beef) but neither one of my cats can actually eat it: they keep licking ground beef and then just leave it! When that cat was sick I was giving him some raw salmon (for the fish oil) but I had to cut it into bites and hand feed him.
And they eat MEOW without hesitation. Totally civillized cats-I have more instinct than all of them!
Thanks for the info!
 
Astra2012 last decade
Will try the Lachesis when I am sure he is totally off the influence from that low dose Stramonium. Thanks.

Will also try the Nat mur at some time.

I feed all the animals pure meat when I am cutting it up. I have a homeopathic vet and she said to be sure they have at least a few tablespoons a day. Other than that I use quality kibbles. If yours eat BARF then it is good for them. All the animals have beautiful coats, even the senior ones (11-13 yrs).
 
museon last decade
maybe someone will find it interesting.



"Perhaps the experiments of Dr. Frances Pottenger in the 1940's can help to solve this mystery. In these experiments Dr. Pottenger fed similar groups of animals (usually cats) a diet of exclusively milk. Half ate cooked milk (i.e., pasteurized), the other ate uncooked (i.e., "raw" milk). The results were conclusive and astounding. Those that ate raw milk did well, lived long, happy, active lives free of any signs of degenerative disease. Those that ate pasteurized milk suffered from acute illnesses (vomiting, diarrhea) and succumbed to every degenerative disease now flourishing in our population. By the third generation, a vast majority of the cats were infertile and exhibited "anti-social" behavior. In short, medically speaking, they were like many modern Americans."

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Astra2012 last decade

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