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A matter of principles

Dear Friends,

I have opened this thread as i felt that i have something important to say which is more in nature of an impartial observation on this ongoing ruckus at this forum.I just wanted to provide some food for thought and the honoured members can take it from there.

First of all, are these internet homeopathic forums meant for homeopaths, students of homeopathy and patients or for hooligans.Why i say this is because, if it is meant for the first type of people who supposedly are educated to be able to access the internet and participate meaningfully, then where is the need for the kind of language that is exhibited in plenty by some members on this forum.Why the need to call someone a 'virus', a 'pig', a 'dog' or what not?Why can't we behave like mature adults?

Secondly, abchomeopathy forum is supposedly a democratic forum where everyone is allowed to express his or her opinion, subject to the rules of the forum and moderator's sound jydgement.Now, if that is the case, how is it possible to silence anyone just because that person does not agree with your views on homeopathy.Why do the aggrieved people not take the people with opposing viewpoints on the basis of logic and sound arguments?It seems that since you cannot argue logically because of the power of the arguments put forward by the counterparty, you decide to gang up and threaten to strike if that person/s is/are not banned.But, is it democracy?

And what about the signal that the moderator would be sending forth to the other members by acceding to such illogical and indemocratic requests?That he is a weak moderator.That anyone can threaten him to get his/her way at the forum.

As far as i am concerned, i think no one is above the law.If instead of Dr.Deoshlok and others, we were even talking of homeopaths of the calibre of David Little or Vithoulkas, even they could not be allowed to take a forum where they want to take it.It is that simple.Even Michael Jordan has to play Basketball within the rules of the game.

With warm regards.

Rajiv
 
  rajivprasad on 2006-10-26
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
who are you to ask my credibility. First show your credibility are you having any medical proffessonal qualification.
dr.deoshlok sharma
 
deoshlok last decade
I think Dr.Deoshlok said that he won't post anywhere else, excep on the 'strike' thread.

He chided Kuldeep for not sticking to it.

His having posted here, is an indication that he has changed his mind.

Welcome Sir.

You can continue to post here as usual. why dig past issues ?

Let us move on.
 
gavinimurthy last decade
I do not have any medical qualification.I never claimed such a qualification.I asked for your credentials as a forum member who wanted to help the interests of other forum members.You provided your credentials and hence the matter is closed from my side.

You are a qualified homeopath.Why don't you refute all the arguments put forth by people like Murthy who are not officially qualified as you?

Also, homeopathy is a subject which always has had lay homeopaths and there have been some great ones in the past.I don't need to defend my official qualifications as i don't have any.But as a lay homeopath, i have studied the subject, and am free to participate on this forum like other non-qualified friends of yours.

Rajiv
 
rajivprasad last decade
Dear Rajiv,

When Murthy was calling people 'fools' and Jacob was calling people 'jackass'....where were these principles ??

You should have raised these objections at that time.

Then the counter comments would not have come.

Partiality ...started at that point.

Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
There were more respectable ways of seeking the background details of Dr. Deoshlok....without offending him and without degrading him.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Murthy was the first one to call names like 'frog'.

Before he and Jacob arrived here.... no one 'decorated' ABC Forum with such 'master pieces'.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dear Pankaj,

I am not taking any sides here.I am just saying that unparliamentary language should not be used.If Murthy and Jacob called you such things, they are wrong and if you or anyone else called others by derogatory names, they too are wrong.That is my only point.

You can perhaps remember that i even apologised to you for having used harsh language when angry.I don't think that anger or personal enemity is going to help any homeopath or the patients who come here for help.But i do think that anyone who calls himself a homeopath needs to study Hahnemann,Kent,Boenninghausen,Hering,Lippe, Guernsey,Allen,Vithoulkas,Schepper and other acknowledged masters of homeopathy seriously.It will help to increase the knowledge and understanding of the homeopath concerned as well as the patients would get better help.

With warm regards,

Rajiv
 
rajivprasad last decade
P.S. When i said that i think that people should study ........... the masters of homeopathy etc., i only meant it as my suggestion and not as a prescription.Of course, anyone is free to do as he pleases with his life.I understand that and respect that.But when it comes to a debate, just because the other person has not studied sufficiently or does not understand a certain point, to let a point go out of courtesy would be a wrong thing morally speaking.It is everyone's duty to say and uphold the 'truth' as one sees it.Again you will notice that i am not talking of 'absolute truth', because God alone has access to that.I am talking of 'truth' as one sees it.I may be right or the other person may be right or both may be wrong.But important thing is to put across one's point respectfully and clearly.There is no scope for anger in such debates.That vitiates the atmosphere as has happened here at this forum.

Rajiv
 
rajivprasad last decade
Dear Rajiv,
I am your well wisher.
We can always discuss about homeopathy and many other subjects under the sun for mutual benefit.

Best wishes
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Thanks.You are welcome.

Rajiv
 
rajivprasad last decade
Hah at Mr Varma still all hurt...aww.

One word. Staphisagria ;)

Enjoy.


-Jacob.
 
Hahnemania last decade
Without detailed case taking ??....poor form of classical homeopathy !!
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
enough details were available.We can prescribe on 'mental' symptoms alone. : )
 
gavinimurthy last decade
On the same principles.... I suggested Hepar Sulph. for H'mania...quite some time back....on 'mentals'.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Murthy..incidentally...you made another 'monkey-jump'.

In the great debate...your opening argument was...detailed case taking is not taking place here and people are prescribing ...'blurting out names of medicines'.

Now you are confirming...homeopathic medicines can be suggested purely on consideration of 'mentals'.

A 180 degree turn around. I have nick-named this kind of behaviour as 'Monkey-jumping' !!

You are resorting to this kind of behaviour frequently.

Readers ...please be fore-warned.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Again, I have to give you a big lecture. : (

I will try to make it brief this time.

If there are prominent mental symptoms, which clearly point towards a remedy, we have to prescribe it, irespective of pathology.

Only, in cases where mind symptoms are sketchy, not dependable etc.,then only we will give some importance to pathological symptoms.

This is for chronic prescribing. The way we look at acute problems is completely different.

Don't get confused between the two.

any way I promised you to teach the diference between acute cases, and chronic cases.

If you stop these diversions,I can use that time to educate people like you, who are novices in homeopathic theory and philosophy, on more important aspects of homeopathy.
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Dear Murthy AND Rajiv
What do u want? why fighting again and again unnecessarily .dr deoshlok is now well known and u will not get any more this is your frustuation reflecting that u could not achieve anything by this endless debat
Pankaj Narang
 
pankajnarang81 last decade
Hi Pankajnarang

We are grown up, matured people. We don't need your mediation.
 
gavinimurthy last decade
I will tell you some thing better to do.

Tell Girilal/Kuldeep that his forums are again down.

Ask him to take care of it, and help him if you can.
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Dear PankajNarang,

You again took my name.Where did you see me fighting on this thread?I hope you have some common sense and understand the English language.I have not even posted on this thread since this new bout of arguments started today.

If you have any sense, you will see that i have been trying real hard to help restore normalcy on this forum.Please stop addressing me by name in your future posts.

I will be grateful to you for that.

Rajiv
 
rajivprasad last decade
Your training is incomplete Murthy !!
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
To cover for your mistakes ...you make such lectures.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
'Mentals'

Reproducing below a post I made quite some time back:
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Re: Social Anxiety Disorder : Please somebody take my case. From PANKAJ VARMA on 2006-08-27
The remedy depends upon the constitution and ---- mind symptoms ------of the individual.

Not necessary that the same medicine will benefit another person with some common symptoms.
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Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Pankaj, In India we say, an empty pot makes a loud noise.
 
Kuldeep last decade
aptly applicable to you both.

How come you are posting again here...You are on strike,is it not?
 
gavinimurthy last decade

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