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practice of isopathy

It is controvercial whether to put isopathy under homeopathy shelter or not.But I believe it should be practiced under homeopathy. I cured a case of chronic hepatitis B and then later development of Hep.C. I advised remedial protocol according to symptoms which cured 70% but not more than that, then I took blood of patient and triturated up to 12X, this gave wonderful results.
What your experience in this regard, please share.

regards
 
  ashfaq on 2006-06-21
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I cure allergy cases this way.

I used potentized peanuts on people who were severely allergic to peanuts etc, etc.

My own example: Like everybody else, I used to get rashes from Poison Ivy and now nothing happenes by its contact and even if I eat ten leaves.
 
girilal last decade
Hahnemann. allen , Kent et al would be horrified - but if it works go with it ---

But

Do NOT call it homeopathy
 
walkin last decade
Isopathy is not homeopathy. It has some similarities with homeopathy in the sense that remedies are prepared in accordance to the method adopted by homeopathy. Lot of literature is available on isopathy and some people claim it is as efficient as homeopathy but the claim is doubtful that is why it could not get popularity as it should. It is not effective in every case but it cannot be neglected and can be used along with homeopathy in infrequent doses. Most of the French homeopath used it with confidence but not alone, always as an intercurrent remedy and claim its effectiveness. If it is so effective independently it can replace every system of medicine. The another difficulty is that we have to prepare the medicines in the clinic which is difficult in every case. However it is worth trying.
Dr ashfaq,claimed success,i believe.

sajjad.
 
sajjadakram635 last decade
Ashfag, funny you should bring up this subject.....

I was taking my own blood remedy for 6 days this past week, 6c potency, 2 x a day. I stopped as of today to see if action continues.

I am not a homeopath, just a person in need of help. I have no homeopath in my area so I am on my own.

I know I have Epstein Barr Virus and the Lyme Disease bacteria in my blood, and probably other microbes as well. I figured my own blood should cover any 'nosodes' that might be appropriate for my treatment.

If you are willing, I would like to talk more about auto-nosodes and isopathy. I could use some help with what I am doing! However, I understand if you are only looking for input from other homeopaths.

Tracy
 
Truthfinder last decade
mostly tis gues work--not yet dtermined longterm response of using as such...my thinking --he wise eye will have seen change in other area or some aspect --when an amelioration come --rleifing allergin recations or chronic ill...not likely chnge such without effect in other areas--this best keep close monitoring--to know--then wehavesome knwoing guide rather than using exacts to treat...opposed to similars....
 
John Stanton last decade
Oops. Looks like it is 'Ashfaq', not Ashfag. My apologies for the error.

Tracy
 
Truthfinder last decade
I’m not so sure that Hahnemann, Kent, Allen, etc. would be all that horrified. After all, as evidence of isopathy being used in the past, we have the Materia Medica itself. But it seems that every practitioner who has written about the use of these types of remedies makes it clear that isopathic treatments are adjuncts to completing the cure, and NOT to be relied upon as substitutes in place of the simillimums. I have taken this to heart.

In what little Internet information I can find about the use of nosodes and auto-nosodes, there does not appear to be any concrete rule about when a nosode may be introduced into a case. It may come at the beginning, or it may be used to complete the action of prior remedies, or used in the event that another well-chosen remedy fails to act or stops acting for no apparent reason.

It seems to me that one of the most intriguing aspects of an auto-nosode is that I don’t see how it can ever be viewed as the WRONG remedy for a person. Nothing new is being introduced into that person’s system. What could be more like you than you? And I believe that is particularly true in cases similar to mine where nosodes made of viruses and bacteria have been shown to be of great benefit. Why not go directly to the source of those microbes – the patient?

My greatest concern in using my own blood nosode is: not to over-treat or under-treat myself. But that would be a concern with any remedy. I could lose my own case by doing either. I simply want to let this remedy “do whatever it needs to do”, and not be too concerned unless I encounter a difficult aggravation. So far, the effects have been subtle, mostly positive, and very surprising. I’m hoping to wake up a part of my “physical” immune system that bacterium like Lyme are known to suppress.

Time for dinner……

Tracy
 
Truthfinder last decade
tracy--i'guess' you will find out--
 
John Stanton last decade
I believe in nature all sources of curement available as amny diseases are....
So only to confined in one way of treatment is steriotyped approach.Haniman himself was allopath but turned to homeopathy which is still a question how it works? but it is giving reults..Homeopathy remedies(majority) if taken in crude form can be dangerous but when potentised the same it becomes blessing. The poison of rettle snake immegiately gives death but when you potentised it ...
I believe that being a health restoring practicioner we should use integrated methods whatever are in front of us(homeo/aromatharapy/bachflower/isopathy/reflextherapy etc..)after having colloabtative approach we can make a remedial protocol for curing any kind of disease.
Tracy, you can ask me whatever questions you have regarding isopathy,

ashfaq
 
ashfaq last decade
When one feels no way out, at the end, isopathy must be tried.
 
girilal last decade
Dr ashfaq,I believe in what you say and isopathy.Do you think that isopathic medicines aggravate.

sajjad.
 
sajjadakram635 last decade
Does Isopathy work ? Why did it not gain over homoeopathy. I think more research on Isopathy is necessary. Hardly much details avaiable.
 
carlos last decade
May be due to the reason that patient's own secretion is used for preparing the medicine.These are all adjutant to Homeopathy.

sajjad.
 
sajjadakram635 last decade
I have a couple of examplary cases cured by isopathy, it didnt aggravates,..
Moreover, why this system couldnt get momentum, i think this comes more or less under homeopathy scope since homeopathy is very well established way of treatment so nobody felt to make it parallel to other systems.But my concern is only if you guys have experience in it or you find any work on it please do share.

regards
 
ashfaq last decade
Yes, John – I will find out. This seems like a reasonable experiment to try on myself. I’m back on my blood remedy, by the way. Gently urging the action to resume, then continue.

It seems to me that isopathy may be lacking in scope, since it often only addresses one aspect or “problem” of the patient. But then, not all patients are riddled with complaints. Does not homeopathy seek to address the optimal function of the entire patient? Hence, a simillimum should open many more doors that allow healing to take place, if it is necessary.

Ashfaq, I do have a few questions about your use of the blood remedy (auto-nosode):

Prior to your patient with Hep. B and C, had you ever used an auto-nosode on any patient, from blood or other secretions?

What prompted you to use it in this case?

Did you find that the reactions of your patient to the blood remedy were similar to using other remedies, or were there surprises and unexpected reactions?

Would you only consider using a blood remedy on patients with infectious diseases, or are there other circumstances where you suspect a blood remedy might be helpful to a case, such as an auto-immune disorder?

Thanks –

Tracy
 
Truthfinder last decade
You should try this adventure and please post your findings. BUT I am doubtful. This only means that own blood would solve all mankind's problems. Or you can use a drop of sweat, eye discharge, saliva etc.

Anyway for Auto immune disorder try Barayta Carbonica 30.
 
girilal last decade
Tracy; those days i was studying about isopathy, so this instigated me to use. No aggravation seen, patient felt relief in alliviating symptoms,and this was my 1st experience

regards
 
ashfaq last decade
Girilal, don’t we wish that a little of our own blood could solve all our problems! But unless my “constitution” miraculously matches that of whatever is swimming around in my blood, I’m sure I will still need the appropriate constitutional/anti-miasmatic remedy (ies).

Thanks, Ashfaq – in what kinds of cases would you consider future use? Also, have you found many homeopaths who have used a blood remedy on a patient?

Tracy
 
Truthfinder last decade
ashfaq, I interested in knowing more on isopathy, preparation technique and your experiences with it. Please favour.
 
carlos last decade
truthfinder, of course I do wish if blood solves all the problems. I simply don't know for sure. One must find it out. More clinicals are needed that's why I asked to to take it as an adventure. Who knows may be this is the key.
 
girilal last decade
Oh, I have another question ashfaq – did you use a “dead” blood remedy, or did you prepare a “live” remedy?

Yes, girilal, I agree.

Tracy
 
Truthfinder last decade
Tracy;
i used patient blood(not dead blood) on milk sugar, then followed the classical rule for making trituration. After 6x you can switch over to liquid potency(as trituration is laborious. For this you have to be very careful as you are exposed to that blood having all harmful constitution.I actually followed one of my senior homeopath about isopathy, he used to cure apperantly uncured cases.

ashfaq
 
ashfaq last decade
Interesting, ashfaq – you did not use any ethanol/alcohol at all in the remedy? Weren’t you concerned that you might accidentally grow something in the remedy?

That was my concern so I mixed my blood with Vodka right off the bat.

So I am using a “dead” auto-nosode, and you used a “live” one. I have a feeling the live one would work much better.

I’ve read about a Dr. Roberto Costa who claims to be having great success using “live” microbial nosodes to treat his patients. I should note that he ALSO uses the appropriate miasmatic, similimum, and episodic remedies.

“Living Nosodes of Dr. Roberto Costa”:
http://members.tripod.com/~mguerra/roberto.html

Now, my first question about this is where would any of us obtain living cultures of microorganisms?

And secondly, would it be legal to administer these “live” nosodes in most countries?

Again, it seems to me that a “live” blood remedy from the patient would serve the same curative purpose, but would avoid these other problems and questions.

Tracy
 
Truthfinder last decade
Do have ever experienced isopathy for hepatitis A B C and other grave diasease like cancer and well spread disease like Diabetes.I would like to listen from you.

sajjad.
 
sajjadakram635 last decade
how do you get live nosodes and how do you get a dead nosode?

If I took my own blood to make a remedy, would that be dead or alive?
 
Pat2006 last decade

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