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A Suggestion to the Moderator

I have an idea to categorize and listing all completed and cured cases in a separate directory. Users (specially prescribers and benefited patients) can contribute this project by suggesting posts/threads for this directory. If all finished and cured cases found in one place, it will be easy for us to verify the qualification and specialization of prescribers.
 
  sadeqahmed on 2018-04-19
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Very good suggestion.
 
Dr R Basu 5 years ago
That sounds like a great idea.

On a practical level, how would it work?

I presume we're talking about moving / flagging the entire thread, not just the specific recommendation?
Should the thread then be closed to all? Perhaps except the OP? (For example, if symptoms return)?
Who would then have the authority to mark a case as complete? Would it have to be the OP? Or could anyone with a certain level of endorsements or anybody at all?

I'd welcome all input on this.
[Edited by moderator on 2018-04-20 13:55:50]
 
moderator 5 years ago
Some prescribers in the past, and now have made threads to list “cured”
Cases. There have been objections by others as to what is the definition
Of “cured”. On acute conditions this is easy, as the acute is gone, the patient
Is not posting after they say they are fine.

On chronic :
1. Some say they have improved, but then stop posting.
2. Sometimes, one part of the chronic picture is gone , and
Prescriber says “cured” but has not and is not going to
Address the other problems - it could be that the
“Cured “ part has been suppressed by remedies.

I think that for chronic cases, that moderator would have to come up with a standard that is posted and say cases listed meet that standard whatever it is. Acutes could be in a different category.
[Edited by simone717 on 2018-04-20 15:50:42]
 
simone717 5 years ago
Now I understand, selecting cured cases is too hard. But instead of cured cases, we can make the name of category like 'Selected Cases' or 'Success History' or 'Improvement History' or 'Popular Thread' or 'Recommended Post' or any kind of suitable name for those threads, where the patients have got some positive result. Because, when we click on any doctor or prescriber's profile, it is bothering to see the threads without any result. At least, if we can found the threads where some achievement has happened, it may be helpful to get idea about the prescriber's success rate.
 
sadeqahmed 5 years ago
A workable version of what you're suggesting might be that we flag posts where the OP has endorsed a post within the thread, which suggests they're happy with the advice given.

How does that sound?
 
moderator 5 years ago
What would that look like ? A button
Where OP checks that says treatment
Is effective?

As far as flagging after that? Not sure what that means or how people will find it.
 
simone717 5 years ago
Yes,you are absolutely right. I think if that happens people will get some confidence or have choices to select the doctors.
 
Dr R Basu 5 years ago
Flagging the important posts will be helpful. But if we can get the important posts links in a separate categorized directory, it may more helpful.

However, I do not know the word "OP". Can anybody tell the meaning?
 
sadeqahmed 5 years ago
It means the person who started the thread- abbreviation for original poster.
 
simone717 5 years ago
The way to apply this project can be like:

1. A new page could be created, which title may be 'Referred Cases' or 'Cured Cases' or 'Recommended Posts' and link url may be https://abchomeopathy.com/suggested-posts.php

2. In Abc Homeopathy Forum main page, a button under the page may be 'Submit/Recommend a Post/Thread' or 'Suggest Your Favourite Case'. OP or prescriber or any other user would be able to suggest or recommend the post link which they think useful.

3. Then after moderation, if the suggested post seems helpful, where any real success history available, it could be listed in the specific page or directory.
 
sadeqahmed 5 years ago
Ok. Thanks for the suggestion.

I'm wondering if I can tie this in with the endorsements system.
 
moderator 5 years ago
Thanks for considering our suggestion. We hope success and improvement of this forum and it's moderator. May God bless you.
 
sadeqahmed 5 years ago
Good idea indeed. Already there exists popular topics but there is some scope to improve it. And if popular topics are chosen based on traffic then the new category could be based on votes collected for successful relief. If the OP's vote carries maximum weightage there could be some accomodation for homeopathic enthusiasts to vote up when they see some good work and vote down if they see some shoddy work.

Not sure if passion or knowledge or skills could be represented totally by endorsements. But there is really no good benchmark to represent them accurately so we don't have much choice.
 
maheeru 5 years ago
As stated above, my preference is to use the existing 'endorse' (heart) data in some way. The reason is that if there are too many ways of showing appreciation, it gets bewildering for new members.

To that end, I've made an index of endorsed posts, but I'm not convinced it's all that useful as it stands:
http://abchomeopathy.com/forums.php/Endorsed


maheeru said Not sure if passion or knowledge or skills could be represented totally by endorsements. But there is really no good benchmark to represent them accurately so we don't have much choice.
Indeed.

Additionally the posts that have racked up endorsements seem a little arbitrary here and there. The most endorsed post is actually somebody's problem, rather than a solution.

At the moment, the way endorsements are calculated, an endorsement from somebody with lots of endorsements counts for more than an endorsement from somebody with no endorsements. This is a way to prevent people making new ID's to endorse themselves. The above link doesn't show the number, or quality of endorsements, just whether or not there are any.

The more the regular prescribers (i.e. those with big hearts, figuratively and graphically), endorse each other, the more useful it will become, as the arbitary endorsements will become a smaller part of the total picture.

So what do we think? Is it a keeper?
 
moderator 5 years ago
I clicked on the link- there are recent posts that do not even have an answer?? Or no results- unresolved- so it makes no sense.
[Edited by simone717 on 2018-04-24 12:42:52]
 
simone717 5 years ago
Probably the page link is under construction and temporarily only the homepage is shown in that page. When the page will be properly arranged, we may get some benefit from it. But this endorse system also has some limitation. Because, there are some people, who like and love everything. I have see an interesting thing that, there are some threads in this forum, where even the first or second post is endorsed (although it is not possible to rating any post before seeing or getting the result), but in third or fourth post the OP (patient) says, he/she get no result.
[Edited by sadeqahmed on 2018-04-24 13:04:14]
 
sadeqahmed 5 years ago
simone717 said I clicked on the link- there are recent posts that do not even have an answer?? Or no results- unresolved- so it makes no sense.
I hadn't noticed that.sadeqahmed said Probably the page link is under construction and temporarily only the homepage is shown in that page. When the page will be properly arranged, we may get some benefit from it.
No, but the endorsement data has a lot of noise in it. Like you go on to say:sadeqahmed said But this endorse system also has some limitation. Because, there are some people, who like and love everything. I have see an interesting thing that, there are some threads in this forum, where even the first or second post is endorsed (although it is not possible to rating any post before seeing or getting the result), but in third or fourth post the OP (patient) says, he/she get no result.
So I think really, the data is too clouded by noise to be worth anything on this scale.

The hearts next to usernames are derived from the same data, and I would suggest that in general, it's the 'right' people being endorsed, but some people give their endorsements too freely or too meanly.
 
moderator 5 years ago
A solution may be limiting the endorsement power only to the OP. Or, may be two endorsement sign used, one for general users, and one for OP of the particular thread.
 
sadeqahmed 5 years ago
A few checkpoints:

First post usually talks about complaints so it need not be endorsed unless someone talks about an idea or a solution for some problem. This would prevent threads with no responses from getting endorsements.

Some OPs are expressive and grateful they can endorse for any answer than for a right answer. Sometimes OPs for lack of homeopathic knowledge can endorse not so good ideas and can skip really good ideas, so allowing other knowledgeable people to vote up can cover this gap. If a solution is endorsed by OP and two other members(excluding the prescriber) with good endorsements that post can be given more weightage in calculation.

As of now individual posts are getting endorsed, but there could be a new provision of endorsing a thread if the problem is resolved. This could command some more weightage than individual posts.

Giving endorsing right to only OPs can solve some problems but can give rise to new other ones. Even if we are able to give some rating standard to prescribers, again the ratings could be subjective because a very good prescriber with less number of posts can be at the bottom of the table, and by virtue of having huge number of posts somebody not so good can end up in the top. So again OP's discretion will become all the more important more than these ratings.
 
maheeru 5 years ago
I agree with Dr. Maheeru's statement, "As of now individual posts are getting endorsed, but there could be a new provision of endorsing a thread if the problem is resolved." Endorsing a thread will save our time from checking every post of a thread.
We also can mention another point, when we click on any prescriber's profile, then we see the list of the threads where he have make any post. But the problem is that, it show the record every time he posted on the threads, which show same thread repeatedly. But it is enough to open a thread once to see all of a user or prescriber's post in that thread. So, it become difficult for advice seekers to found the precriber's advice records from the cloud of duplicate entries. So, it will easy for us, if we see a thread where contain posts of a particular user only once in his profile, as we see a thread only once in original ABC Homeopathy Forums's hompage.
[Edited by sadeqahmed on 2018-04-25 12:20:07]
 
sadeqahmed 5 years ago
sadeqahmed said I agree with Dr. Maheeru's statement, "As of now individual posts are getting endorsed, but there could be a new provision of endorsing a thread if the problem is resolved." Endorsing a thread will save our time from checking every post of a thread.
Looking at the endorsements data, I'm quite sure that the endorsed threads would be as overrun with noise as the endorsed posts.

I know other sites (like experts exchange) make it work, but the big difference between them and us is that their threads apply to a lot of people, so they have the traffic to give up/ down votes as necessary and overcome the noise. In contrast, posts here are very personalised. Someone with the same condition is likely to start a new thread.

It was a good idea, but I don't think it's viable.sadeqahmed said We also can mention another point, when we click on any prescriber's profile, then we see the list of the threads where he have make any post. But the problem is that, it show the record every time he posted on the threads, which show same thread repeatedly. But it is enough to open a thread once to see all of a user or prescriber's post in that thread. So, it become difficult for advice seekers to found the precriber's advice records from the cloud of duplicate entries. So, it will easy for us, if we see a thread where contain posts of a particular user only once in his profile, as we see a thread only once in original ABC Homeopathy Forums's hompage.
That was easier. I've added such a link to the profile pages.

Thanks again for your suggestions.
 
moderator 5 years ago

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