Happy Birthday Dr. Joe De Livera - 87 yrs old today!!!

Many happy returns of the day, dear joe.

Murthy

suspect;happy birth day joe

Hi Cathy,

Thank you for yet another Ode which you wrote for my 87th Birthday which is equal to or even better than, the last Ode you wrote on my 84th Birthday.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/402431/

There is no doubt that God has singularly blessed you with the ability to weave words to capture the subject matter in a manner that is akin to composing music and I thank you again for sharing your gift with me and so many others who will read your composition.

It is rarely that I visit the ABC today as I often visit my own Website when I am alerted by the arrival of a new post when I try to help suffering humanity with my "Joepathy".

Thank you again for thinking of me on my 87th Birthday, yesterday.

Kind Regards

Joe

Hi Gavini,

It's good to know that you have not forgotten me in spite of the many heated debates we have had on the ABC. I do still value your parting shot which I copied on my computer before I stopped visiting the ABC daily after I established my own Website

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/231958/
"You must have observed that I am not the die hard classical homeopath any more.
I now appreciate that homeopathic medicines are capable of curing even when used in the non classical way. "

I am also heartened to know that when I first started the revolution which you derisively labelled "Joepathy", I had the courage to stand firm and continued to use my own version of Homeopathy on a "This for That" basis as I was only guided by the response I got from patients whom I was treating on the 3 Homeopathic Forums I used to visit at that time which were more positive when compared to the results I got when I used Remedies in the classical manner even with the assistance of Radar 9.2 which I added to help me identify them.

Thank you for your greetings on my 87th Birthday yesterday which fell yesterday and which I appreciate. I thank God and Arnica for my state of wellness as I have taken Arnica nightly for the last 20 years in spite of the many warnings of disaster that you and so many classical Homeopathic scholars more learned than I am, predicted and which I have disproved. I believe that I have proved conclusively that Arnica 30 when taken in the Wet dose nightly has enabled me to drive to office daily in my Business Organization in Colombo. Many who meet me today who are half my age are surprised at my wellness. You may like to know that I do not take any drugs whatever and the last time I did so was in 2008 immediately after surgery for a Hernia repair.

I believe that I have proved that Arnica is indeed worthy of the title I conferred on it many years ago:

ARNICA THE MIRACLE REMEDY
http://www.joedelivera.com/?p=66

Kind Regards

Joe

Happy birthday Sir and sorry for this delay.

To Cathy

Thank you Cathy for illustrating your Ode with the picture of Joe Di Maggio with the age changed to 87. I thought that this was clever.

It is obvious that you have been blessed with many talents including proficiency on the computer.

Joe

To DrManojVEDI

Thank you for your greetings on my 87 Birthday.

Joe De Livera

To akshaymohl

Thank you for your greetings on my 87th Birthday.

Joe De Livera

Good Joe
Helping humanity is the first priority.
Even though you have to go against the rules of homeopathy.
Happy birthday to you.

Joe's methods follow the rules of homeopathy.

Most of the times, he prescribes lower potencies, mostly water doses.

3 to 4 drops, in 500 ml. of water, and take a sip out of it, after succuussion every day. No more medicine to be added.

Obviously, such divided doses work smoothly and does no harm, whatsoever.

He follows this for that prescribing, which is what majority of the prescribers do here.

He himself acknowledges that there may be few patients, who can't get benefitted by his joepathy.

So, the reckless high potency prescribers can't take solace that Joe too practices non classical homeopathy.

He does, but in a way that it does no harm to the patient, whatsoever. I repeat this once again.

Murthy

See, how careful joe is.

Hi Murthy

Please do not get me wrong. I would never advocate that deep acting remedies like Sulphur should ever be used in the manner that I am using Arnica. It is just that I felt that Arnica should not fall within the remedies that you had in mind in your post that I mentioned it in my post above.

As for my prescribing Arnica 'right left and center' I can assure you that I do not do so except in the many cases that I have discovered that it helps where the other standard remedies do not. I have only prescribed for helping with acne in the case of teenagers.

You are invited to visit a thread on Arnica which I posted some time ago where you will see that I have used it to help in some unusual cases where it has never been used before:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/42450

Joe

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For a complete discussion read


http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/85665/

Hi Gavini

I am almost embarrassed by the comments you have made in your 2 posts today on my Joepathy and the protocol I use which is always in the Wet dose to which I converted after Luc who was here in 2005 as a member of Homeopaths without Borders to help the survivors of our Tsnami with whom I was closely associated, proved that it was by far more effective than the dry pellets which could prove counterproductive in curing disease, if used in the long term. You are correct in assuming that the Wet dose cannot possibly do any harm to the patient and is best taken twice daily till the ailment is stabilized.

As you are aware I have taken Arnica 30c since 1996 originally in the dry pellets but after 2005 always in the Wet dose nightly and I have conclusively proved that it is to God and to Arnica that I owe the state of wellness I enjoy in my life today at the advanced age of 87. I wake up without any aches or pains that are accepted as the price of the advanced years. I do not take any drugs whatsoever and have been instrumental in persuading many clients who have consulted me to take Arnica in the manner that I have done and proved that it is by far more effective in curing disease than is possible otherwise.

I do a normal day's work in office but leave office by 3.00PM to avoid the heavy bumper to bumper progress that is the bane of traffic in Colombo today.

Thank you for the 2 links you provided

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/42450
and
http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/85665/

which I had not remembered to visit for over the last 6 years since I established my own Website:

www.joedelivera.com

It was nice to do so after this gap of many years as it brought back memories of the constant battle of wits and the debates that followed my every prescription from which I just refused to budge as I had proved that my Joepathy worked in a far more effective manner than the classical protocol which almost all Homeopaths practised at that time and even now at the cost of the suffering patient who was anxious to be cured of his problem but which was not being addressed by the consultant as s/he dared not break the rules which in my case were irrelevant, as I treat all patients free of charge.

Kind Regards

Joe

To mnaari

Thank you for your greetings on my 87th Birthday.

Joe De Livera

Dear joe

You are gold at heart. Despite the altercations, I always respected you, for your selfless service and continue to do so.

Regards

Murthy

Hi Gavini,

It was only today that I read your post of October 21:
"You are gold at heart. Despite the altercations, I always respected you, for your selfless service and continue to do so. "

I am indeed touched by the sentiments you have expressed in your post and in recent posts on the ABC where many years ago we had many "altercations" which lead me to establish my own Website to ensure that my "Joepathy" will continue unchallenged into the future long after I am no more. I mention this fact as I am 87 years old and although Homeopathy is not my profession, I believe that I have contributed in some way to its advance in the world today with my refusal to be cowed down by classical homeopaths who once used to attack my every prescription to a member who sought my assistance.

New members on this Forum which is by far the most popular Homeopathic Forum in the world, with over 10000 hits daily, will not be aware of the debates we had with each other which at the latter stage resulted into an almost daily agenda. Many members could not understand the reason why you and I who had both studied this Science but were not professional practising Homeopaths as you were a senior Executive Electrical Engineer in a very large IT organization in India till you retired a few months ago and I a Business Executive, should be so adamant in promoting our individual therapy which in your case was based on Classical Homeopathy, which I too originally used with the many questions we were expected to ask the patient. In my case I had discovered very early that this multitude of 'case taking' questions which lead to the prescriber treating only the Symptoms that the patient presented, were only a waste of time and this is when I decided to use my initiative and prescribe for the ailment on the "This for That" protocol which is not permitted in Classical Homeopathy.

This was after I had observed that the rate of CURE of an ailment using my therapy, which you had labelled "Joepathy" was found to be far more effective in relieving the patient of the agony which s/he would have otherwise have suffered from the prescription of a classical Homeopath. I had also added Radar 9 which is recognized as a very advanced Homeopathic software but the results that I got by using it were not always curative and in 2005 I decided to establish my own Website based on a WordPress Template which I now monitor daily in my free time as I use a MacBook Pro Retina where every email is displayed on my monitor as it comes in and which I invariably monitor if I am on my computer.

I was very glad to discover that I am not the only proponent of the "This for That" protocol of Homeopathy as Dr Prasanta Banerji who owns and operates the

PRASANTA BANERJI HOMEOPATHIC RESEARCH FOUNDATION
http://www.pbhrfindia.org/

also uses the same protocol. I am informed that he owns and operates a Homeopathic Hospital in Kolkata where they treat over 1500 patients daily, free of charge.

I look forward to the day that Homeopaths will change their classical therapy to the "This for That" therapy to treat standard ailments that are the lot of suffering humanity today and reserve the Classical protocol for other more complicated ailments for which a more detailed diagnosis and prescription may be indicated.

I look forward to meeting you here in Colombo in summer 2017 as confirmed by you in your email.

Kind Regards

Joe