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my opinion abvout homeopathy

Hi,waht I'm going to write it over here will not be very pleasant,but,....
Namely,as a patient,I was treated by homeopthy for certain number of healthy problems.That took about 1,5 year.Ihave changed in total 3 practitioners,tasted impressive amount of remedies,in pelets as well in disolutions.I must emphasize that according to allopthic checkings,my healthy conditions is in general well.
So,NOTHING but absolutely NOTHING I didn't benefit od all those remedies!!I am not worse,but my aim was to be better,but completely nothing I didn't feel!!!
I believe that homeopathy is just fake,fairly tale,not more not less!!!
I read sometimes this forum and only I can laugh to stupidity of mine,other people and homeopats!!!
Just is enough to see description of some remedies like "buzzing in ears" or "burning in urethra",and ask ourselves how come they collected all of that?
Homeo answer is that remedies were given to healthy people and than,according to their reactions and replies accomplish that into book called Materia medica?!
Remedies need to scored on results of curing ill and not causing of "symptoms" of healthy people!!
I would like to warn all people who have serious disease,to seek real medicine and not to trust to homeopathy,wasting their time and putting themselves into danger!Waiting to try this,or try that remedy,this matches to you perhaps because you like sweets,and other you dream snakes,....to underline homeopathy for me is just CRAP!!!
 
  askomacic on 2005-08-03
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
As Prof, Kent said about your remarks " HOMEOPATHY NEVER FAILS ONLY THE PERSON APPLYING IT!.

Also if you were not ill .......you cannot be cured!!.

I think your remarks only display a lack of understanding.
 
walkin last decade
Hi Askomacic

You are entitled to your views. It is sad that your experimentation with homeopathy didn't help you at all. No wonder you feel this way about hoeopathy.

However please remember there are millions of people like me getting benefitted by homeopathy in countries like India.

In India, there are nearly 180 homeopathic medical colleges, 7500 government clinics, and 307 hospitals offering homeopathy treatment. Approximately 35 are government colleges, rest are managed by private bodies. Homeopathy is the third most popular method of treatment in India, after Allopathy and Ayurveda. It is estimated that there are about quarter million homeopaths in India. Nearly 10,000 new ones add to this number every year. The legal status of homeopathy in India is very much at par with the conventional medicine.

Do you think so many people are interested in homeopathy without getting results?

I personally can vouch for the efficacy of homeopathy. I am not a homeopathic doctor, but, learnt it on my own, with the help of more knoweldgable people, doctors and non doctors, and by participating in forums like this.

So, don't get discouraged.Homeopathy is a wonderful therapy, and once you start getting results, you will love it.

Try to see a classical homeopath, who gives you one nedicine at a time.

Al the best

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
I was just like you? Always made fun of homeopaths as well as believers.

A small incidence changed my life. My small 9 month old son had severe eczema on his head and use to bleed of scratching.

Everything failed and finally I bought Material Medica even I didn't believe in Homeopathy but here was no other way out.

Just a single dose of Phytolacca Berry 200 cured him.

I took my son to at least 10 homeopaths also. But finally my own judgement worked.
 
kuldeep last decade
I must reply your post tah was my first reaction after having read your Post.

I have at least three times been brought back from extremely worst conditions, when all allpaths had surrendered,in 1981, 1994, 2004. years are important factor which reflects that it was never any thing else but Homeopathy.

since childhood my father tells me a story:

A learned preacher one day was giving a lecture in a village when he got toothache. Villagers told him that there is no doctor avaliable, But one carpenter is there who will come and hammer a nail in the wall. and as he will hammer the nail his pain will start subsiding. The preacher had no choice but to accept the help. Than carpenter was called. He started hammering the nail into the wall without looking at The Preacher. Whole nail got into the wall but preacher kept on saying that he did not get any relief. The carpenter coolected all his tools in his box and stood up & said " PREACHER YOU HAVE BEEN PREACING WHOLE WORLD TO HAVE FAITH BUT TELL ME HONESTLY DID YOU HAVE FAITH IN ME WHEN I STARTED. REALLY I CANT DO ANY THING WITH YOUR PAIN BECAUSE YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME".

I think there is nothing more to say for you.

wahijs
 
wahijs last decade
This reminds of a very famous saying about people like "askomacic".

"He who knows not, and knows not he knows not, is a fool. Shun him! "
 
homeopathbuff last decade
I know another saying but have no idea where it comes from:

"Eyes they have but see they do not."
 
Astra2012 last decade
O.K.,people,I did expect much worse attacks,but somehow it likes that I am not worth of lot of explenations,maybe you are right,....anyway thanks to some people who politely answered to me (like kuldeep did),despite of my rood text.
I swear people that I realy had a lot of trust into homepathy,but some things did simply make me to loose a faith (I am not 100% healthy,otherwise I wouldn't torture myself with doctors,allopathy,homeopathy),second thing that story about believing in healing with some medication,I have heard 1000 times.Taking a medication I am always neutral,just don't think of remedy,let it work,..but if it doesn't?Take another example,having tuberculois and going to doctors to cure you with antibiothics,man has nothing to BELIEVE in medication,let medications to do the job,kill bacterias,medication WORKS,wheter you believe it or not,so that story about trust in that sale to someone else,even you homeopaths are keen to defend yours's medicine trying to prove that is not placebo,saying that is working on anaimals and kids,and believe in remedy???
However,just to be known for my loosing the faith in homeopathy are guilty homeopaths and not me!!!I was just a patient,never taking without consulting of homeopath.All right,I said 3 or 4 remedies can failure,nothing isn't perfect,but to take those things for 1,5 years and I think I took about 10-14 remedies,can you blame me??
I also see a lot of people who have similar expiriences.
I woulde be happier than you are if could be honest and say,I did get rid of my problems with homeopathy,best reagards to all of you!
 
askomacic last decade
You can't fix something thats not broken, if it did nothing, as you claim, where is the danger?
 
parachute last decade
The problem lies not in Homeopathy but people who actually practice it. It is an art which needs to be practiced without monetary gains in mind, a art so subtle, so intriguing that one needs to learn over an extended period of time. Unfortunately, many people practice homeopathy like they do with allopathy, but unfortunately, tell me one instant, one single instant when allopathic medicines cure you?
All of the allopathic medicines only alleviate the problem to recur at a later time and then you take the medicines and it goes away again!
Have faith in homeopathy and only then you will see its action. I have had many cures for myself when all the allopaths could do was nothing!
 
homeopathbuff last decade
Askcomacic: sorry to hear about your experience. Unfortunately there are a lot of homeopaths that will go out treating people and are not very experienced. They will treat people like you and medicine does not work and there you go...you don't believe it homeopathy. It only takes 1 wrong doing to reject something and get negative feedback!
Like mentioned above. Homeopathy has been around for over 200 years. If it was fake do you REALLY think it would be around and do you really think that in place like India there is well over 100 homeopathic medical schools? And other coutries in Europe doctors are said to use it about 45%Here in the states there was the such but unfort. the AMA started and that ended. It is gaining power once again here. With several thousand profesionals practicing it and a lot more lay people practicing it. Back to your situation. If you are not sick why take them!? Its like taking an asprin when you have no headache!? What does it do to you? I don't blame you being the way you are but if you find an experienced homeopath you will be helped. And you don't have to be looking specifically for experience. I think there are some homeopaths that love this and will dedicate a lot of time to your case.It depends on the homeopath. If he/she just rx something according to disease chances are they are going to get it wrong! Allopathy medicine suppresses. Yes antibiotics kills the bacteria...but what about them bacti becoming immuned to antibiotics? What will allo med. do then!? Nothing! Unless they bring out some new and stronger antibiotic but guess what! It will probablly affect some organ of your body! So are you really healthier?
My family has used homeopathy for years. My grandparents used it. My grandmother is 96 years old and doing quite well! Not saying it was due to homeopathy but saying that she has treated everything she has had with homeopathy and rarely would use allo med. which in return have not affected other parts of her body! Someone I know...had a plantar wart. Allopaths removed it sugically and it would return! Did that about 3 or so times. Went to a homeopath..2 weeks later plantar wart was gone! I have so many stories. Any time I hear that someone tried homeopathy and it didn't work I always think they got the wrong medicine! I just hope you never get a chronic illness...cause if you cant go to a homeopath who can you go to!? Allopathy? depending on the illness.
Anyway...like said here "homeopathy doesn't fail only the person who applies it. "
Good luck with your health and really if you have questions we welcome them here otherwise this is probably the best place to post your negative remarks.
 
jose07 last decade
Homeopathy is a very complex procedure. Homeopaths may be very good but they too have their pet medicines and they prescribe them. A top homeopath failed to cure me of my problems but brought back my grandfather from death. Then it was my late Sir who gave me a lot of relief. But he too failed in some people because his medicines did not match their profile fully though the symptoms were the same. A single dose of Nux at bedtime stopped vomitting in my husband everytime he got an attack and slowly it stopped. So i must say one must go to different doctors and you are sure to find one whose medicines suit your profile. This is why I consult in this forum as all have opinions - good ones, and one will surely get proper help.
 
maya_hari last decade
Yeah,I should wrote "lost the faith in homeopaths",instead of homeopathy,but actaully aint matter.Everything I wrote was my experiance,of course,I certainly believe that lot of other people benefit of this medicine,but somebody aked me when and what classic medicine helped me(intentionaly don't want to use term allopathic,is bit insulting for really hard working to become a doctor,but put it on a side now.As a child I was afflicted by acute meningitis(really bad and dangerous disease!),rapidly doctors put diagnosis,stayed in hospital for about 20 days,recieved large doses of antibiothics,but they saved me from death,if would be out of medicine maximum 2 days,I wouldn't survive.Some kind of diseases are not really for messing!
I am familiar with way of homeopaths cure people,some things I liked it,some were very starnge,but,..all raight I said,justto be patient.
From mine,seventh or eight attempt and visit to homeopath,I was asked; "what's a condition now after last remedy?",I just replied same as it was first time,catually nothing hasn't been cahnged.Than she noticed,"aha,you told me that you feel better in sunny days,and now you like rain,it is a sign of change!".Yeah,I said in general way,yes I do likemajority of people,but after long hot season I like a bit of rain,it is quite natural,...somethings are quite unlogical,...or way how the symptoms in Materia Medica are put,...for Ars."great debility"???,what that espouse to mean?Unlike classic medicine(if you have meningitis,all symptoms are clear and unique for all humans,try asked someone who has that attack of terrible headacke and throw out-"do you like sour food,or maybe sweets", or "hearing better during riding in carrage"?,homeopathy says that every person is unique,I agree with that,but also all of us are same on certain level.Homeopathy perhaps work,but I didn't see or feel it,it is too fragmentated.
For instance,I have thyroid lump,with normal galndular function.Classic medicine can do just removal of that part of gland,no need for medication,homeopathy?-yes!!!
All homeopaths who I met said;"it is not big case,easily we can solve it up!"After 1,5 year,really nothing didn't work,can you blame me?Allopaths,as like to call them are at least honest"we can't cure that,but it is possible to remove,no need for that yet,but it's up to to decide".That I said,if they are capable to deal with small non-toxic goitre,how they could cure man with toxic one?Till someone with toxic would wait for homeopath to find "proper remedy",he could die or become walking dead man.Doctors would give you just medications for that disease,in those cases no time for waiting "constitutional remedy2,or "be patient,it gonna take some time."
Thanks for under undrstanding,but I steal belive,when some dangerous thing occur,go to doctors,when situation gets better experiment with homeopathy.
 
askomacic last decade
If you say that homeopathy does Not work then the same should be said of vaccines and antivenoms. It's like the old saying, 'the hair of the dog that bit you'. Sometimes taking a remedy makes things worse for a short peroid of time in order to feel better. No one can be hypnotized with out wanting to be either, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist! It seems to work better if you believe it will. When homeopathy has worked for so many, who are you to jump and say it doesn't work at all? We can judge for ourselves if it works for us or not. My mother had terrible sciatic nerve pain, no it was just in her head. She lived with it for 4yrs, till she tried a homeopathic remedy, has had any problem for the last 10mos! It does work for some.

If you had taken conventional/allopatic drugs for what ailed you, do you think it would of done nothing? No, it would of made you ten times worse if it was the wrong drug. At least with homeopathics it just doesn't work if it's the wrong thing. I'd say that is a much safer way to go about getting well. I do believe when it's really needed to go to regular doctor. I've had graves disease and had to have a part of my thyroid out. You have to know when to do what is right for you. Its your body. Certain things need certain doctors. If you break a bone you go to the emergency room and get it fixed up, but take a homopathic to speed the healing. Just my bit of imput.
 
upnorth last decade
Homeopathy has never been proven to work. I would attribute many positive anecdotal results as being a display of the placebo effect.

Kind regards
 
TopCat last decade
Homeopathy has never been proven to work. I would attribute many positive anecdotal results as being a display of the placebo effect.

Kind regards
 
TopCat last decade
There was nothing placebo about my mothers pain, she had to go and have cortizone shots from this pain, now it's gone? Believe me, there is no way she can just get rid of it by thinking it away.
 
upnorth last decade
How do you KNOW that her pain going away was not the reult of her brain making the changes? Perhaps you made the reasonable deduction that this was unlikley? Do you belive in santa? or goblins?
 
TopCat last decade
she had the pain for a very long time and nothing touched it, not even strong pain meds.
 
upnorth last decade
I would really like to know how the placebo effect takes place in animals. Or in babies - oh, I guess it passes through the breast milk, just like the remedies?
 
Minsa last decade
Like Minsa said placebo effects don't work on babies nor animals! Homeopathy works of both.

And please TC, have you even tried it ONCE...? if you haven't then please don't comment! There have been numerous studies that have shown a greater effect than placebos. On some other studies it was equal to allopathic medicine! So please don't come here on the board saying that it hasn't been proven!
And lets see...and why are there thousands of homeopaths and numerous schools and hospitals treating from the very acute illness to the most chronic illness...don't think there would be the such if it wasn't proven!

Isn't there a board moderator?!! We need one!
 
jose07 last decade
Jose07 said:"And please TC, have you even tried it ONCE...? if you haven't then please don't comment! There have been numerous studies that have shown a greater effect than placebos. On some other studies it was equal to allopathic medicine! So please don't come here on the board saying that it hasn't been proven!
And lets see...and why are there thousands of homeopaths and numerous schools and hospitals treating from the very acute illness to the most chronic illness...don't think there would be the such if it wasn't proven! "


Not having tried a "remedy" does not remove my right to question it's efefctiveness. If I suggested that rubbing effluent onto a bald head would stimulate regrowth would you try it? Would you feel unable to offer the view that male patteren baldness is genetic?

The other point made that because many people use homeopathic remedies validates thair use is bunkham. Most people used to belive the earth was flat, that this view was held by millions did not make it anything other than wrong.

I note the mention of studies showing the validity of homeopathy. Why are these only vaguely referred to? If these studies had been done as you asserted, I am sure you would delight in pointing me to the results and methodology. That you do not suggests to me that you are aware that I am right in saying their is no evidence to show that homeopathy works other than anecdotal which is of no use at all.

I notice that many here would prefer that no view challenging their perspective on homeopathy would be expressed here. Is this connected to the no doubt substantial profits that are genereated by sales of homeopathic "remedies" sold here?
 
TopCat last decade
Talking about homeopathic remedies,there is one significant thing,there is studial testing of effectivnes or possible danger of those remedies.Unlike "allopath" medicine,where medication must past on lab tests,in homeopathy everything is "proved" by subjective statemants or in Materia Medica.
Of course,as everything on his world is profit and bussines,what do you think that homeopathy is free of that?Pharmaceuts are at least honest and they admit their profitable intentions,but homeopathy producers never admit their profitable nature,because their remedies are "safe",no matter because they were not clinacaly and objective approved.Even me could produce and sale homeopathic remedy,so where is regulation which says what remedy is "real" and what is fake?
Impossible,because they are so disoluted that it can't be proved present of any substance in that remedy?
Only way to be ensured that is "proper" remedy is to see reaction on man,...well I tried about 14 remedies and didn't notice anything,so who's wrong me,or the on ewho produces and sale that remedy,what it might just lactosis and nothing else?
Don't tell me that there are many people who consumed those "remedies",in fact jusr pils of sugar and they have been cheated,but of course it is up to the "wrong dyagnosis" or "body doesn't respond to remedy",common give me a break!!!
 
askomacic last decade
TC - Im at work right now so I didn't have the urls to direct you to the right places!

Yes many people though the earth was flat....a hypothesis! Homeopathy...a principal!

The reason we don't like these type of post is b/c this board is specifically to help people that wish to treat themselves with homeopathic...go to the skeptic boards and post your comments there.
About profits. I don't work for ABChomeopathy and I don't care how much profit they make. Infact...I have never bought any of my medication from ABChomeopathy! And if you want to talk about profits in medicine...you sure are not in the right place. A vial of homeopathic medicine cost some 7-8$ Might have cost them a couple of dollars to make...so equals profits. Now allopathic medicine...cost couple dollars to make and usually are sold for 20-30$ and more at times! So don't come talking about profit in homeopathy! Why does specific medicines cost over 80$! They sure didn't spend that much in making it! Its call profiting!! On their pills. They patent the pill and able to market it and sell at what price they want for a certain amount of time! At least thats true in the US!
 
jose07 last decade
I have enough time to read the title, first post, and post myself so sorry if not quite in line or repeating after someone.

Such posts are really amusing! Just think about that. Someone trumpets his/her opinion! WHO CARES!
If all people were thinking exactly the same the world would be boring.You think homeopathy doesn't work-so be it. It is nobody's business (and a terrible waste of time) to persuade you otherwise.
 
Astra2012 last decade

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