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please answer me this
.... if a person takes a remedy from animal kingdom and he reacts with anger, like in video game when loosing. And strongly feels sensation of someone doing something to him. and cursing later, throwing things.What are the possible scenarios?
1. can you only react in such way because your remedy lies in the animal kingdom or could this have been a proving? can you prove other kingdoms?
Assuming I were a plant or mineral and took an animal remedy? Is it possible to start reacting like an animal for a short while (proving)? or not??
This would help a lot to know on what to focus. Whether to take a repeat dose of tarantula or something else.
Please answer so I wont waist time.
starface on 2012-02-16
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♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
If you answered to me that only someone who needs remedy from animal kingdom feels anger in such way... than I would take another dose of tarantula
But as is I am going to go than with thuja.
But I only remember having had dreams of falling when I was young. really young. Not anymore.
Tonight I dreamed about Formula 1 sport again. Recurring dream. This time I was watching timetables on the screen of qualification round. And than all of a sudden unexpectedly a driver who usually isnt that good. A Midfield or at times also in the backfield driver(not at the front) .. was putting in very quick laps. for 4 or 5 seconds faster than the guy at the first place. Which was unexpected.
hmm so strange. Dont know what that could mean. DOes not sound like thuja I think??
But as is I am going to go than with thuja.
But I only remember having had dreams of falling when I was young. really young. Not anymore.
Tonight I dreamed about Formula 1 sport again. Recurring dream. This time I was watching timetables on the screen of qualification round. And than all of a sudden unexpectedly a driver who usually isnt that good. A Midfield or at times also in the backfield driver(not at the front) .. was putting in very quick laps. for 4 or 5 seconds faster than the guy at the first place. Which was unexpected.
hmm so strange. Dont know what that could mean. DOes not sound like thuja I think??
starface last decade
Considering you know nothing real or substantial about any remedy, of course it doesn't sound like Thuja. You are like a english-speaking person trying to understand gaelic, and is just guessing at what things mean. Nothing will make sense, nothing will be what it seems, nothing can be understood without a solid grounding in the language.
You wouldn't know any remedy if you fell over it and it screamed out its name to you. You would just hear your own state, obscuring any rational way to perceive it.
This is of course the real tragedy in what you are doing. Your state is crying out to be cured, and you cannot hear it at all. Everything you see, hear, read about sounds like you, because you can only see yourself. This is where your actions become irrational and useless. Nothing will ever help you clear your vision, except the simillimum, which you will never find, because everything looks the same to you, everything looks like your simillimum.
It is sad, watching you make a fool of yourself this way, ignoring any advice you get, doing the same foolish thing over and over. I realise that I am not talking to someone who thinks like a normal rational person, that everything I say probably is being filtered by your mental disease, being distorted and transformed into 'take Thuja' 'take Tarentuala'. I had hoped that under there somewhere there was a person who could make decisions to help himself. But it seems there is not. Very sad.
But of course, you will keep fooling yourself into thinking somehow it will just 'happen' like magic. Such magical thinking is very common to people with mental health problems. Without firm supervision and careful control of their medication, people like yourself are almost impossible to treat. In the old days, when we had homoeopathic mental asylums, you would have stood a chance. Out there on your own....well it is a tragic situation.
You do realise that the remedies will not only activate physical pathology, but mental pathology as well. I wonder if you will even notice when a remedy drives you insane. Your family won't care why it happened, they will just put you way all the same. Once they start drugging you up....well hope really will be lost then.
Most people would do anything to avoid that. You seem hell-bent on making it happen. I guess some people are destined to suffer more than others.
I realise you are just trying to expose yourself to us, and to me specifically, in a desperate attempt to get attention.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 16 Feb 2012 04:37:17 GMT]
You wouldn't know any remedy if you fell over it and it screamed out its name to you. You would just hear your own state, obscuring any rational way to perceive it.
This is of course the real tragedy in what you are doing. Your state is crying out to be cured, and you cannot hear it at all. Everything you see, hear, read about sounds like you, because you can only see yourself. This is where your actions become irrational and useless. Nothing will ever help you clear your vision, except the simillimum, which you will never find, because everything looks the same to you, everything looks like your simillimum.
It is sad, watching you make a fool of yourself this way, ignoring any advice you get, doing the same foolish thing over and over. I realise that I am not talking to someone who thinks like a normal rational person, that everything I say probably is being filtered by your mental disease, being distorted and transformed into 'take Thuja' 'take Tarentuala'. I had hoped that under there somewhere there was a person who could make decisions to help himself. But it seems there is not. Very sad.
But of course, you will keep fooling yourself into thinking somehow it will just 'happen' like magic. Such magical thinking is very common to people with mental health problems. Without firm supervision and careful control of their medication, people like yourself are almost impossible to treat. In the old days, when we had homoeopathic mental asylums, you would have stood a chance. Out there on your own....well it is a tragic situation.
You do realise that the remedies will not only activate physical pathology, but mental pathology as well. I wonder if you will even notice when a remedy drives you insane. Your family won't care why it happened, they will just put you way all the same. Once they start drugging you up....well hope really will be lost then.
Most people would do anything to avoid that. You seem hell-bent on making it happen. I guess some people are destined to suffer more than others.
I realise you are just trying to expose yourself to us, and to me specifically, in a desperate attempt to get attention.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 16 Feb 2012 04:37:17 GMT]
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
i dont think I am making a fool of myself.
I dont like that you dont want to help me.
Sure I could go to a homeopath I am thinking now, that I could pysichally do it. but....
1.) will the effort I make lead me anywhere. Will it work out?
2.) Is the homeopath going to be any good, or just a normal homeopath with basic knowledge
3.) Will the homeopath even get the info he needs from me? I could not talk about my BDD, my dreams, my ego problems.
4.) What if homeopath does not wish to tell me what remedy he gave me? I cannot deal with such thing. This is not acceptable to me. It is him trying to control or dominate me. Never going to work out. I got to be on equal ground.
5.) and I would loose you than
I dont like that you dont want to help me.
Sure I could go to a homeopath I am thinking now, that I could pysichally do it. but....
1.) will the effort I make lead me anywhere. Will it work out?
2.) Is the homeopath going to be any good, or just a normal homeopath with basic knowledge
3.) Will the homeopath even get the info he needs from me? I could not talk about my BDD, my dreams, my ego problems.
4.) What if homeopath does not wish to tell me what remedy he gave me? I cannot deal with such thing. This is not acceptable to me. It is him trying to control or dominate me. Never going to work out. I got to be on equal ground.
5.) and I would loose you than
starface last decade
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I meant would I be able to talk about my problems with a homeopath? reveal them to him.
Maybe he would only get to see the shy sweet side of me and know a little about my social anxiety and unhappiness with where I am self esteem wise, that is all.
I would feel very guilty about my BDD, that is a bit worse than having social anxiety, a bit more a deep of a problem
Maybe he would only get to see the shy sweet side of me and know a little about my social anxiety and unhappiness with where I am self esteem wise, that is all.
I would feel very guilty about my BDD, that is a bit worse than having social anxiety, a bit more a deep of a problem
starface last decade
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
hmm. A homeopath I asume would know if I said I have no problems that it is a lie and really do have problems, but how much more can he find out? He might know that I feel ugly, have low self esteem but he wont know about my BDD just like that. He also wont know about my egoizem but think of me as very sweet and polite unless he decides to give me a remedy in office without revealing the name of it lol. Ok this is all changable. Sometimes I react with dissapointment and just would not go to the homeopath again when it is time for appointment again. Or just tell him I am unable to take the remedy.
Me saying I am J... and have body dysmorphia, I feel that my nose to big etc etc. IMPOSSIBLE. Those words never going to come out of my mouth. Fall from grace. I would be finished. A complete nobody in front of him and all of a sudden there would be egoizem, the switch from small ego to big one. It would feel like the most ridicoulus thing I ever said. hmmm. I am so confused about what my problem is. sometimes ego, sometimes so polite and nice, sensitive to impressions
hmm yesterday I felt good but when i came home all of a sudden I was in some pain of solitude nature, isolation?
I felt angry, angry for being unable to connect with anyone. in pain/angry over not being able to be what I want to be, what I should be. I saw this picture of being in thorns and grieving but in a special way somehow. That it is 'special' that this is what I am experiencing. or something like that. dont know how to describe it accurately
Me saying I am J... and have body dysmorphia, I feel that my nose to big etc etc. IMPOSSIBLE. Those words never going to come out of my mouth. Fall from grace. I would be finished. A complete nobody in front of him and all of a sudden there would be egoizem, the switch from small ego to big one. It would feel like the most ridicoulus thing I ever said. hmmm. I am so confused about what my problem is. sometimes ego, sometimes so polite and nice, sensitive to impressions
hmm yesterday I felt good but when i came home all of a sudden I was in some pain of solitude nature, isolation?
I felt angry, angry for being unable to connect with anyone. in pain/angry over not being able to be what I want to be, what I should be. I saw this picture of being in thorns and grieving but in a special way somehow. That it is 'special' that this is what I am experiencing. or something like that. dont know how to describe it accurately
starface last decade
there was also some 'unpleasant' situation at home 2 days ago.
..when I feel talked bad about behind my back. I fear I might be confronted by that person directly, attacked. And I get really anxious. Tremble all over the body and hands, and have doubt whether I will be able to defend myself.
Nothing more I can say.
Later when the anxiety settles I might get haughty from the critizism. Not let it get to me at all. But this only lasts for a while until everything settles down again.
this is experience everytime I have issues with my father. Someone that could be considered above me in some ways. I dont know what more to say about it. No sensation except anxiety and feeling attacked with doubt about successfull defence. Anxiety can get bad, can make me stare, but less of an issue from what it was in the past. Last time I broke out in anger. I trembled and I didnt care for my mother seeing it, or father.
..when I feel talked bad about behind my back. I fear I might be confronted by that person directly, attacked. And I get really anxious. Tremble all over the body and hands, and have doubt whether I will be able to defend myself.
Nothing more I can say.
Later when the anxiety settles I might get haughty from the critizism. Not let it get to me at all. But this only lasts for a while until everything settles down again.
this is experience everytime I have issues with my father. Someone that could be considered above me in some ways. I dont know what more to say about it. No sensation except anxiety and feeling attacked with doubt about successfull defence. Anxiety can get bad, can make me stare, but less of an issue from what it was in the past. Last time I broke out in anger. I trembled and I didnt care for my mother seeing it, or father.
starface last decade
Starface
I have just joined this forum and yours is the first thread I see .... which I have scanned through
What is apparent to me is that you are doing self prescribing over issues which are not possible or appropriate to self prescribe for.
Self prescribing is fine (most of the time) for things like imjuries and acutes because often that is where therapeutics come in .... and anyone can do that with a little knowledge. Sometimes, it is possible to even go beyond that and do some individualising based upon symptoms etc
However, the things you are describing, discussing and asking are absolutely impossible to be objective about ... and objectivity is what (amongst other things) a homeopath brings to the table. Of course she/he also brings a wealth of extensive knowledge and experience also
It might interest you to know that most homeopaths dont treat themselves (or their friends and family) for the same reasons - lack of objectivity.
It seems to me that you are doing alot of analysis and rationalising ... and this is actually part of your 'picture' but it will be difficult for you to see that.
I really implore you to go to a homeopath .... your concerns around this will turn out to be largely unfounded. And without being insulting, any qualified homeopath is going to know more than you ... and thats not even including the epxerience that they bring with them in addition.
Meanwhile, if homeopathy interests you, then go learn it formally and properly ... you clearly have an extensive interest in it and that could be nurtured ... but meanwhile, be kind to yourself and go see someone qulaified and experienced
I wish you well
I have just joined this forum and yours is the first thread I see .... which I have scanned through
What is apparent to me is that you are doing self prescribing over issues which are not possible or appropriate to self prescribe for.
Self prescribing is fine (most of the time) for things like imjuries and acutes because often that is where therapeutics come in .... and anyone can do that with a little knowledge. Sometimes, it is possible to even go beyond that and do some individualising based upon symptoms etc
However, the things you are describing, discussing and asking are absolutely impossible to be objective about ... and objectivity is what (amongst other things) a homeopath brings to the table. Of course she/he also brings a wealth of extensive knowledge and experience also
It might interest you to know that most homeopaths dont treat themselves (or their friends and family) for the same reasons - lack of objectivity.
It seems to me that you are doing alot of analysis and rationalising ... and this is actually part of your 'picture' but it will be difficult for you to see that.
I really implore you to go to a homeopath .... your concerns around this will turn out to be largely unfounded. And without being insulting, any qualified homeopath is going to know more than you ... and thats not even including the epxerience that they bring with them in addition.
Meanwhile, if homeopathy interests you, then go learn it formally and properly ... you clearly have an extensive interest in it and that could be nurtured ... but meanwhile, be kind to yourself and go see someone qulaified and experienced
I wish you well
naturalnurse last decade
naturalnurse last decade
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Oh yea. I clicked on your username after posting.
Ok maybe I will go to a homeopath in person and invest my money into that than, instead of the usual stuff I would buy and consume. Might be a good thing to spend it on homeopathy and make me feel better about myself by doing this all on my own with own money.
There was nothing wrong with your advice David. Which was about the same thing anyway. It's just I don't want to be alone. And i don't want to leave and go to someone else. Don't like changing people, starting fresh. Like to stay with the things I am used too.
Ok maybe I will go to a homeopath in person and invest my money into that than, instead of the usual stuff I would buy and consume. Might be a good thing to spend it on homeopathy and make me feel better about myself by doing this all on my own with own money.
There was nothing wrong with your advice David. Which was about the same thing anyway. It's just I don't want to be alone. And i don't want to leave and go to someone else. Don't like changing people, starting fresh. Like to stay with the things I am used too.
starface last decade
Btw I hope I will keep to it. I have a tendency to say all the right things I think people would like from me(lol) and can already notice that I am thinking 'what will i do later if no one will respond anything'? Things are always mixed with me. Some genuine desire to do what I said but also some manipulation (f that's the right word to describe it) for attention I think.
[message edited by starface on Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:14:52 GMT]
[message edited by starface on Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:14:52 GMT]
starface last decade
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Hi again Starface
I am so glad that you are considering going to see a professional homeopath .... well done you.
I know it can be scary ... most people are scared by what they dont know and by change actually ... but if you think back in your life, you will see that the fear and anticipation about something was always worse than the event itself.
If you can recognise this in yourself, then you will be able to accpet that you are scared and thats ok and just go do it anyway ... and that way, the you are one step ahead of the self sabotage
One thing to bear in mind ... results you want may not come fast .... I am pretty sure you will need qute a few consults and you are going to need patiencIf however, you feel you cant tell the homeopath everything on day 1 ... thats ok too ... just tell them that there is more, but you arent ready yet.
You will find that wilth the rapport and trust you and your homeopath develop, as well as the action of any remedies (that may be imperceptible to you for a while) you should reach a place where you can say what you need
Example:
Many years ago I treated a man called 'D' . D was very closed in the case taking ... the most closed person I ever came across, only giving yes and no answers .... or ignoring a question altogether. He said he had come for a skin problem and that was it. He told me he was sceptical but friends told him to try and after alot of procrastinating decided to to visit a homeopath.
At the end of session 1 I prescribed for his skin with the limited information I had ... and this went on for 2 or 3 sessions ... I was not concerned .... I knew the time was not right and that there was more I needed to know.
Then one day, he came in and just opened up ... and told me that he had been abused as a kid and never got over it ... and for the first time in his life told the whole tragic story. Afterwards, he said he couldnt believe he had told me all that ... but was glad he had
From that point on, he forgot all about his skin and we dealt with the 'real stuff' ... but guess what ... his skin got better anyway :)
The time has to be right .... the connection with the homeopath and you has to be right ... and you have to be ready and willing to take a risk.
I think the remedies I had been giving him, had helped him to become 'ready' ...because as a practitioner, I knew that apart from the skin, here was a very closed, protected guy and so for me, that became a symptom which I was able to include in woring out what to prescribe.
If you can do all of this, then you are in with a fantastic chance of facing your demons and sorting them out in the end .... just remember that healing (whether using homeopathy or anything else) is a process and not an event .... and the journey is all part of it ... which is why I said it wont happen in 1 session. Stick with it.
I really wish you luck, whatever you decide
Sharon
I am so glad that you are considering going to see a professional homeopath .... well done you.
I know it can be scary ... most people are scared by what they dont know and by change actually ... but if you think back in your life, you will see that the fear and anticipation about something was always worse than the event itself.
If you can recognise this in yourself, then you will be able to accpet that you are scared and thats ok and just go do it anyway ... and that way, the you are one step ahead of the self sabotage
One thing to bear in mind ... results you want may not come fast .... I am pretty sure you will need qute a few consults and you are going to need patiencIf however, you feel you cant tell the homeopath everything on day 1 ... thats ok too ... just tell them that there is more, but you arent ready yet.
You will find that wilth the rapport and trust you and your homeopath develop, as well as the action of any remedies (that may be imperceptible to you for a while) you should reach a place where you can say what you need
Example:
Many years ago I treated a man called 'D' . D was very closed in the case taking ... the most closed person I ever came across, only giving yes and no answers .... or ignoring a question altogether. He said he had come for a skin problem and that was it. He told me he was sceptical but friends told him to try and after alot of procrastinating decided to to visit a homeopath.
At the end of session 1 I prescribed for his skin with the limited information I had ... and this went on for 2 or 3 sessions ... I was not concerned .... I knew the time was not right and that there was more I needed to know.
Then one day, he came in and just opened up ... and told me that he had been abused as a kid and never got over it ... and for the first time in his life told the whole tragic story. Afterwards, he said he couldnt believe he had told me all that ... but was glad he had
From that point on, he forgot all about his skin and we dealt with the 'real stuff' ... but guess what ... his skin got better anyway :)
The time has to be right .... the connection with the homeopath and you has to be right ... and you have to be ready and willing to take a risk.
I think the remedies I had been giving him, had helped him to become 'ready' ...because as a practitioner, I knew that apart from the skin, here was a very closed, protected guy and so for me, that became a symptom which I was able to include in woring out what to prescribe.
If you can do all of this, then you are in with a fantastic chance of facing your demons and sorting them out in the end .... just remember that healing (whether using homeopathy or anything else) is a process and not an event .... and the journey is all part of it ... which is why I said it wont happen in 1 session. Stick with it.
I really wish you luck, whatever you decide
Sharon
naturalnurse last decade
Ok thanks For nice words. It Gave me something to think about. Usually people like me initially. Than they withdraw, loose interest,call me boring or whatever because of inhibition and fear I am reserved. Or they hurt me. Sometimes at work someone greets me nicely or after introduction they say 'it was nice meeting you' and I know I should say this in return. But I am emotionally unable too. I feel put off by saying a thing I don't really feel or mean. So I am quiet than and feel guilt for not having said it in return. That it was bad and now they already might start thinking something bad of me. But I don't feel close enough to be able too say such thing (nice meeting you too) back. Especially if I felt anxious when introducing myself.
Tomorrow got to work again and it is already starting to feel like something I wished I could avoid. Not have to go through this pain for so many hours again. Of having to control my anxiety, my body, everything so that no one will see any of such thing.
Meeting people on hallways more uncomfortable too. A hello everyday does not cut it anymore. It is now where people are supposed to talk more. Or act more like friends. At this stage I have great problem. I feel strange for saying just hello. And more anxiety of doing something wrong
Ah wrote much more than intended. I just cannot stop it seems and not stop hoping someone would save me lol
There is pain from being alone, doing the wrong things and not having normal contact which I wished I had.
Tomorrow got to work again and it is already starting to feel like something I wished I could avoid. Not have to go through this pain for so many hours again. Of having to control my anxiety, my body, everything so that no one will see any of such thing.
Meeting people on hallways more uncomfortable too. A hello everyday does not cut it anymore. It is now where people are supposed to talk more. Or act more like friends. At this stage I have great problem. I feel strange for saying just hello. And more anxiety of doing something wrong
Ah wrote much more than intended. I just cannot stop it seems and not stop hoping someone would save me lol
There is pain from being alone, doing the wrong things and not having normal contact which I wished I had.
starface last decade
Oh just saw I got new reply. I wrote the above to David's response. Will read this now. Thanks for taking the time to write this
[message edited by starface on Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:14:03 GMT]
[message edited by starface on Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:14:03 GMT]
starface last decade
Ok, good to hear story from patient. So I guess no pressure on me than when I go to homeopath.
Ok this morning after waking up I felt ready to go to a homeopath in person. I can do it and look forward to sharing information and have someone to listen to me. I feel a bit of egoism now about it too. This got me confused. How changeable I am. But now I feel no pressure all of a sudden. Or at least this morning. Don't know how come
Ok this morning after waking up I felt ready to go to a homeopath in person. I can do it and look forward to sharing information and have someone to listen to me. I feel a bit of egoism now about it too. This got me confused. How changeable I am. But now I feel no pressure all of a sudden. Or at least this morning. Don't know how come
starface last decade
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