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what is normal

NORM !. Never was and never will be!.

As I have said elsewhere , the totally normal invasion of the gut of every young baby by micro organisms , which settle into a harmonious co operative symbiosis, means that every single member of the human race has an individual ---- different from everyone else --- GIT [gut] .

When baby is born it presents a nice warm wet virgin environment for an enormous quantity of micro organisms .

These colonise this virgin land and battle for territory . Eventually they settle their differences and harmonise in order to ensure that this territory [the baby] survives and they survive with it .

Thus they act to help the body to digest many substances [ which otherwise it could not absorb] in a symbiotic operation.

When antibiotics are applied [in a totally reckless fashion] to this territory that has taken years to achieve its natural balance . The whole system is shot to hell and you get -- say Candida , normally held in balance by the weaker micro organisms -- and there are many HARMFULL effects such as invasive candidiasis , etc.

This means that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A NORM . That the variety between individuals may be small but over a large quantity of individuals the limits of variation are enormous .
The implications of this mean that one cannot use a chemical or biochemical “club” to beat into submission any infection, or cure any set of conditions.

This is a case of treatment using a chemical “club” to beat symptoms and seriously damaging the patient.

chronic lung infection - help!
“”I am 29 years old and have had asthma that has gotten increasingly worse since age 18. I also have extreme allergic reactions to dust, mold, pet dander, and pollen. Last October, I got a soar throat that lasted for a few days. My lungs became infected and I had extreme difficulty breathing. I had a fever, chills, and coughed up green mucus from my lungs. I went to a clinic and was prescribed prednisone and biaxin (antibiotic) for 10 days. I was also prescribed Advair 250/50, which is an inhaled steroid, and I took that for one month. I took the medications because I was entering respiratory failure. When I told my chiropractor, she told me this was an extremely lethal combination of drugs to take and that I should never do this again. I became more conscious of my health, rested more, got more excercise and quit smoking (in october). In february, I got a flu which turned into an extremely painful earache. I was again prescribed antibiotics, which I took because the pain was so extreme. My earache went away but I think I'v ehad a Candida overgrowth from all this antibiotic taking.
Last week, I had some abdominal pain after eating, and then I got a severe soar throat. The infection again entered my lungs, causing extreme difficulty in breathing, fever, chills, coughing that produced green sputum, shortness of breath, and fatigue from even climbing a flight of stairs or walking around the house. I went to the clinic where I was again prescribed prednisone (starting with 40 mg the first day, then down in 5 mg increments each day for seven days) and Biaxin. I told the doctor I didn't want to take prednisone again, especially with the antibiotics, and she told me this was the only way to avoid respiratory failure. She sent me to the ER where I had an albuterol therapy treatment and was seen by an ER doctor who prescribed the same prednisone/antibiotic mix. when I told him I didnt' want to take this, he told me the same thing - that I had no choice, and that this was the only way to not go into respiratory failure. So two days ago I started taking the prednisone, and slowly it has helped my lungs to minimally function. I was prescribed 1000 mg of Biaxin/day. I took 1 500 mg Biaxin two days ago, and 1 500 mg Biaxin yesterday but I now feel like I shouldn't be taking the antibiotic and want to stop. Is it ok to stop taking the antibiotic once I've started? Is there a homeopathic remedy that will work just as well in fighting the infection? My Doctor tells me I must take what I was prescribed, my chiropractor tells me I must not. Also, is it ok to take DHEA and other immuno-supportive remedies when on prednisone?
Sorry for the long post but I am scared and confused. “”


No norm means that the basis for the work of the pharmaceutical industry is thus totally invalid, and any of their products should be treated with deep suspicion.
It will be seen that the medical scientists do not appreciate the above FACTS by the statement at the end of the following.

“ Millar said there are several scientific mysteries posed by the nation’s swine flu. experience. What happened to the virus after its first appearance at Fort Dix, New Jersey? How did the army recruit who died, Private David Lewis, contract the virus?. And we never figured out what it was in that vaccine jug that made people get Guillain Barre., he said. “




VACCINES ARE DANGEROUS.

CHA R LES TAYLOR ------IN ATLANTA GEORGIA ---- MAJORCA DAILY BULLETIN 7/11/1986
IN A NORTHEAST Atlanta warehouse, more that, 40 million doses of swine influenza vaccine, in cold storage since 1976, await a government decision for disposal.
The vials of vaccine, reminders of America’s big’ swine flu scare a decade ago, have not been checked for potency in the last two years and their eventual fate is unknown, said officials of the National Centre for Disease Control.
`Ten years ago, Federal Health Authorities Iaunched an unprecedented national Campaign to vaccinate millions of Americans against an expected onslaught of a potent influenza strain they believed would strike 50 to 60 million US citizens.
Virologists said the virus. was the same, or closely related to, the flu agent that in 1918 killed 548,452 Americans and 21 million world wide in the greatest plague of modern times.
On October 1, 1976 after many delays, the $135 million federally funded inoculation program got under way at public clinics across the country. The funds were sufficient to pay for 200 miIIion doses of Vaccine in history’s first national effort to immunise an entire population against a major disease.
Ten weeks later on December 16, 1976 the CDC suspended the program after it received reports that some vaccine recipients contracted a type of paralysis known as Guillian-Barre syndrome . It was indefinitely called off as evidence mounted that the paralysis and the vaccine might be linked.
A total of 43 million Americans received inoculations but the expected swine flu’ epidemic never occurred. After initial cases among army recruits at Fort Dix, New Jersey, in February 1976, one of them fatal, only a handful of similar. infections were reported to the CDCs nationwide surveillance .system, proving once again the unpredictable nature of the flu virus.
The government, which had insured the vaccine manufacturers against damage suits, was faced :with millions of dollars in claims by individuals who said they became paralysed after being immunised with the vaccine. . So popular we were such lawsuits that a legal specialty developed around filing Guillian Barre claims aims against theGovt; a Federal Judge awarded a Scranton Pennsylvanian , woman $3.9 million .
The CDC’s heretofore spotless reputation as the worlds premier health organisation and the agency playing a leading role at that time in eradicating smallpox from the world was blemished. Federal immunisation programs, especially its flu vaccination efforts, were called into question. There were other repercussions. Dr David J. Spencer, Assistant Surgeon General and CDC director, who came under heavy fire for recommending the national immunisation program to then President Gerald Ford, resigned his post.
Spencer’s colleagues, 10 years later, said the CDC director made the correct decision based on information available to him at the time. The fact that he got canned for it is political history, not scientific history,,, said Dr Donald Millar, who was coordinator of CDC’s swine flu task force and is currently director of the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health.
Spencer after leaving CDC for worked for a drug firm until he became Commissioner of Public Health for New York city He now is with a private company,. Management Science for Health, in Boston.
Dr Alan Hinman director of the a CDC’s Immumisation Division, also said Spencer’s decision for a national ,immuriisation program was correct .
Millar said there are several scientific mysteries posed by the nation’s swine flu. experience. What happened to the virus after its first appearance at Fort Dix, New Jersey? How did the army recruit who died, Private David Lewis, contract the virus?. And we never figured out what it was in that vaccine jug that made people get Guillain Barre., he said. UPI
 
  passkey on 2005-05-16
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
MDieties can't think outside of what they think of as "normal." For all their training and abilities in times of emergency, MDs can be very stupid. Their egos get in the way many times instead of just LISTENING to their patients.

"Generally" asthmatics have what is called an "attack." This means when triggered with some sort of sensitivity or allergy they are apt to fall into an attack within 2 to 24 hours. This is what MDieties look for. The belief is that this is the only NORM for an asthma sufferer.

A person has a slow working asthma condition that takes more than a week to manifest. If she is not treated properly, and timely, she will go into such serious illness, hospitalization is almost imminent. She would very much like to avoid this. But she does not fall into the NORM of asthmatics.

Mdieties DO NOT BELIEVE her. How can the common person off the street possibily know anything about their bodies? How can a person know anything about asthma??? They insist she wait until "other" signs show to PROVE she needs earlier treatment to avoid a worse condition.

If she cries in frustration because she is not believed (because she does not do it in a normal fashion) the MDieties immediately believe she needs an antidepressant. (not really listening/hearing...stupid egos.)

She is 50 years old and has had this condition for 15 years. She also has diabeties, and had to ARGUE AND BEG the doctor to give her a test for it in the beginning. She knew the signs for it as her mother had it. BUT 3 doctors refused her a diagnosis as she was not believed. After all a patient knows nothing....not a doctor.

The day a doctor finally agreed to test her to get her off his back, she received an emergency tele call to tell her to come in quickly as her sugar was at 400.

She has an IQ of 149, I would be very inclined to believe this type of person, wouldn't you?

Every person is an individual. One cannot group all into a NORM of general treatment. This is why we insist on a page of reporting of kind of person and likes/dislikes, and better from and worse from, to even get close to selecting a homeopathic remedy one thinks may be of help for that individual.

Homeopathy does not deal in "norms" and "names" of conditions to treat.

Blessings, Sabra
 
sabra last decade
Cant say fairer than that !.
 
passkey last decade
the strange thing is that the docs think that there is a 'normal disease' state that we have to match to have a 'disease' - this is in itself a contradiction, as what 'disease' is 'normal'??
Whatever happened to wanting to be yourself and individual rather than be 'normal'? Ahhh - maybe homeopathy has a clue in finding and being yourself!
 
erika last decade
Go along with that
 
passkey last decade
I understand why u r so much against MDs (allopaths), but homeopathy is no "angel" or "panacea" either....here i report 2 actual real life cases which prove that:

1. A patient with severe headaches went to the BEST homeopaths (about 5 ) and earnestly took their treatments for TWO years WITHOUT ANY benefit, and finally got TOTAL relief of his very severe and debilitating headaches with just one tablet of a very HARMLESS allopathic medicine called clonazepam.

2. Another patient with severe rheumatoid arthritis tried homeopathy for many years WITHOUT ANY BENEFIT AT ALL....ultimately found much relief with Steroids (which you homeopaths hate so much) and other good allopathic medicines and thanked God for that.

Do you still say homeopathy is better....ya i know your answer.."Homeopathy never fails..its the practitioner who fails"...come on now...were all those experienced and well reputed homeopaths fools (who tried to treat his headaches?).....one might fail, two might fail...how can ALL 5 fail????

grow up and learn to accept your weaknesses.

Both allopathy and homeopathy have their place in different diseases and both allopaths and homeopaths should accept their weaknesses.

No Offence intended.

take care
 
Alfalfa Q last decade
There is no such thing as a panacea for all things for everyone. The question is what does least harm and most good.
Of course homeopathy might fail in some cases. However, the cause for its failure are most likely to be i)incomplete information from the patient, ii)not following the prescribed regime, or following it but contravening its effects by using other drugs - or even homeopathic remedies or foods that intefere (sometimes the practitoner's fault for not detailing, sometimes the patient's -especially the kind of patient who goes 'Ha! What does s/he know... I'm going to do this my way.') iii)wrong potency v/s the patient's condition and probably others I can't think of right away.
In the cases you mention, Alfalfa Q, definitely not shining examples, but the problem is the 'harmless' and 'good' drugs you believe have 'cured' the problems might have done more harm than is apparent. A steroid or any drug that masks symptoms or drives them within does damage to more essential systems of the body - which is the answer to your questions - I don't hate MDs, I just hate what the drugs they use so blithely do to anyone in the long run. Do go to a pharma site and see the list of side-effects under almost any given drug - and that's just half the story. Practical experience shows that there are other effects which allopaths absolutely refuse to accept - or, if they do, its with the brushing-off statement that this little thing is the price for your CURE.
If 5 homeopaths failed to do ANYTHING at all for v. severe headaches, I would say that likely they did not have all the information necessary to find THE remedy. Actually, I have known of anyone trying homeopathy for years if it doesn't work. Unless they persist because they have used it successfully in the past.
 
Minsa last decade

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