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Fluoride poisoning in N Central Sri Lanka

I would like to have the advice of the members of this Forum to help with a serious problem that is affecting the population in some areas in the North Central Province of Sri Lanka. This area is mainly farming country where rice is grown and has a relatively high concentration of Fluoride salts in the water which they draw from their wells. It is reported in today's press that the incidence of kidney failure in this region is very high and that the death rate has reached 8 to 10 per month. Mortality is highest in the age group above 35 years when they are in their prime and are the breadwinners in their families and their deaths are causing severe distress as the available labour available for farming is slowly decimated.

I have seen some of the children of those living in this area ranging in age from 8 to 15 years and found that their teeth are dark yellow to brown in colour with a distinct line of discolouration about 2mm from the biting surface which is lighter than the area of the teeth next to the gum. I was informed that their teeth break at this dividing line at about age 20 leaving the stumps of the teeth which soon decay. This phenomenon has been ascribed to the reaction that the Fluoride salts have on the children in this area.

I read in a news item some time ago that a similar problem was faced by the population in an area near Bhopal in India where the underground water is contaminated by Arsenic and that Homeopathic Ars Alb had been used successfully to antidote the various health problems caused by the Arsenic in the water, and the population helped.

It occurred to me that there may be a possibility of using a Homeopathic Remedy like Fluor Acid in a similar manner to help antidote the effect of the high content of Fluoride in the drinking water in these areas and would invite the comments of the Homeopaths on this Forum to help solve this serious problem that we are facing today in Sri Lanka.
 
  Joe De Livera on 2005-05-03
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Hi Joe. I have a mental prayer for the people to do for their land if they are willing.

When one is really sure as you are about the Fluoride in the water, one tells it to leave...this way.

Move the arm as if a back-handed swipe. So the hand begins over the left shoulder with palm toward body. (if right handed) and wipes "away" the Fluoride and all the people say: "send all the fluroide in all the water in our land to the sun to be distroyed now and forever."..."ALL our water is clean NOW and forever."

I do this to rid myself or others of exposure to elements or emmissions that are harmful. The hand sweep is a "sight" thing to physically send the unwanted stuff to the sun.

Caution. If one is working on the body in this manner, One must also say: "AND, immediately fill the spaces with love." This is not necessary except in the human body. One must not leave spaces for any unwanted thing to come in.

Now...I am finding that ZINCUM CARB 1M is a good remedy to try. 1 dose every other day for 6. 12 days.

Blessings, Sabra
 
sabra last decade
Hi Sabra,

Thank you for your suggestion of using ZINCUM CARB 1M to antidote the Fluoride in the groundwater of this village. I do not however find any reference to its availability in the ABC store and it does not seem to be described in the commonly used MM's.

It is the report of Ars Alb being used to antidote the Arsenic in the groundwater in a village near Bhopal that prompted me to post this problem on this forum and I hope that we can do something for this village.

I have discovered an interesting website which gives a wealth of information on this problem of excess flouride on:
http://www.fluoridealert.org/
There is however no advice to helping those who are affected by this problem which leads to other serious problems connected with the Kidneys.

I was interested in the method you described of virtually commanding the groundwater to rid itself of the Fluoride and would like to know if you have any evidence that this method has worked in other instances.

Kind Regards

Joe
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Yes, we do this every day. When in a big store with fluorescent lighting, I remove this emmision from myself when I get home.

When someone is toxic and acting poisoned. I use this method to "rid" the person of whatever chemical is negatively affecting them. IMMEDIATELY replacing the "space" left with love. Might have to do it two or three times in an hour.

If one has put too much salt in a pot, No need to toss, remove half of the salt to the sun.

If I run into a perfume laden woman or man, As I pass, I "wave" my hand to "send" the stink to the sun.

When I bless my food, I "wave" any unknown negative thing "away" and when my hand comes back, this brings blessings, back.

I learned this from a teacher when I was 25 years old. I have had many types of teachers over the years. I am blessed and very grateful.

I had done something very stupid with colors and humans when this woman was teaching me and she yelled at me to reverse it. It was an eye-opener.

It is ok, I know this is hard to "see." One would have to do this to the water constantly as a matter of course as it is coming in from somewhere and one would have to know the source.

Teach the people, if they will let you, to do it daily to anything they eat or drink and to their crops.

I will look again for the ZC as I did find it in a book. Will be back....Sabra
 
sabra last decade
Only relationship I could find was Zincum MET.

ZC is post gonorrheal throat affections, tonsils swollen, bluish superficial spots.

Sometimes I forget to use updated material as I have old and new books.

Use your own intuition and see what you think.
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This sounds like Bangledash when some do-good group came in and dug fresh wells because people were dying so young from bad water.

Later they noticed people were still dying and from another type of illness. After checking the "new" wells, it seems that the clean water was full of arsnic.

This is why I tell everyone to drink only sealed bottle water. Our world is becoming so toxic we have very little clean water left anywhere.

Just read an article about American government has been testing aids meds on foster children for years. I am so angry I could spit. Our gov also tested the chicken pox vaccine on a poor 3rd world country and killed a bunch of children. Sometimes I am ashamed to be american, and yet I didn't do it!

I have found so many things about the gov, I am almost afraid sometimes.

I lost my fear many years ago. One day I awoke and it was gone. What a revelation!! But, I get angry at "man" sometimes and I blow up like a blowfish with all my invisible "spines."

I will keep these people in mind and may run across something else helpful.

Blessings, Sabra
 
sabra last decade
I have just found out my older daughter 7 yrs old, who allergists here in the US claim is asthmatic may have flouride poisoning. She has white marks on her 2 permanent teeth and some stains. two months ago we found 2 small pits on her teeth. She may have been injesting some of her bubble gum flavored toothpaste but has been on 4 puffs of flovent since last 1 yr.

Is there a homeopathic remedy for flouride poisoning?

Ofcourse, my daughter's case is more complicated from food allergies, allergy to some native trees, dust mites etc, some breathing difficulties etc.

But Iam wondering if homeopathy can do anything for her teeth.
 
dporayath last decade
I was alerted to this thread which was active in May 2005.

I would doubt very much that the white marks on your daughter's teeth are due to Flouride as this chemical which is found in the ground water in some parts of Sri Lanka where I live, has affected the teeth of many who live in this region. Their teeth are a dark yellow in colour and there are many instances where the teeth just break off at a certain level at the stumps which looks extraordinary.

I am concerned however that your daughter has been prescribed Flovent:
'has been on 4 puffs of flovent since last 1 yr. '

I hope you are aware that Flovent is a powerful steroid and unless your daughter is a chronic Asthmatic, it is best not to give it to her merely because your doctor prescribed it on a daily basis as it can affect her growth and cause severe distress during her adulthood.

If you would like to list her ailments I shall try to help her.

Please complete the Patient's Questionnaire on:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/43416/
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe,

I googled 'flouride poisoning in front teeth' and got to see some images that resemble my daughter's front teeth. The white marks, yellow discouloration and the pits. We have been finding her to need serious teeth cleaning from tarter every 6 months and the dentist remarked that her enamel had ridges/grooves and is uneven. My younger daughter's teeth are totally fine. They both eat mostly same things, uses same water, toothpaste. Only difference- my older one is on Flovent(Floucatisone Propionate) daily since May 2010. It appears any drug with 'Fl' in its chemical name has flouride in it. I am taking an appointment with pediatric dentist tomorrow. I will complete the questionnaire. I have also made a word document giving details chrinologically. Thank you.
 
dporayath last decade
I do wish that I can advise you on your concern about your daughters teeth which you feel will need 'serious teeth cleaning from tarter every 6 months and the dentist remarked that her enamel had ridges/grooves and is uneven.'

I am not qualified in Dentistry to advise you but from what I have observed about dentists and teeth at least here in Sri Lanka where I live is that they do delight in making mountains out of molehills and even imagine that the slightest discoloration of the teeth is a sign of Caries which they then proceed to dig up with their high speed drills which render an otherwise good tooth to just the outer enamel in seconds while they fill the perfectly good dentine with the dangerous Mercury based Amalgam in the past or today with the plastic filler which is only good for a few years, as I have discovered myself within the past 10 years. I am now 82 years old and almost all the Molars in my upper jaw, cracked up some years ago due to the lack of dentine and were replaced with implants which are too expensive to even contemplate and certainly not for the average man. Suffice it to say that my implants are very comfortable unlike Dentures but the procedure was indeed something that I would not recommend for anyone as it involved long hours of surgery which I am surprised that I was able to withstand at my age about 3 years ago.

My purpose in recording my experience is to warn you that there is a chance that your daughter's teeth may suffer a similar fate to mine later in her life as the dentist may see a possibility of advising you, the anxious mother for unnecessary dental procedures because you are overly concerned about your daughter and may subject her teeth to unnecessary damage by excessive cleaning procedures which will eventually wear down the enamel thereby inviting Caries.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe,

I took my daughter to a pediatric dentist today. She has mild flourosis.The dentist did not feel that Flovent is responsible. He said the permanent teeth are formed in utero. My intake of flouridated water and her intake during the first 2 yrs would contribute more. he felt it would not progress into anything worse. I saw a website www.earthclinic.com that talks about using Borax and tamarind to leech the flouride off your system. Apparently, there is also a homeopathic remedy Borax that can be used if it's suspect that Borax(that's sold as a laundry cleaning product) may contain chemicals that are unlisted on the package.

Thank you.
 
dporayath last decade
Flouride, ailments from: brom., calc-f., fl-ac., iod., sil.

source: Nature's Materia Medica 3rd edition, 2006 p. 2113, Robin Murphy N.D. Lotus Health Institute - from the repertory section.


fl-ac is in bold italics lower case, all others lower case plain-type. Flouric acid would be one to consider first though not necessarily the correct one to give in an individual case. 30c may be considered. though repeated doses of 6-12c may also be considered.

Other detoxification methods may be needed.
 
Nic M last decade

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