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White Bumps In Throat
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom nomostinkbomb [Log on to view profile] on 2006-01-30
pepperonium:

I call that area the "tonsil canal" behind that flap and
I actually flush this area out with listerine from time to time using a syringe that I modified:

I added about a 4" section of small soft tubing over where the needle goes,then at the end I attached about 1" of hard clear PEN tubing bent on the end, bent and formed similar to the bend end that a waterpik uses. I fill it with Listerine pull that flap back and gently flush, than angled tip helps A lot, I think it just needs to be softer rubberyier. hahah

But anything you can use to pull the flap back and and gently flush it would work. It feels Soooo good after this Listerine flush.. My ears even clear up faster with less CRACKLING sounds. Im postive there are kooties back there from your Eustatains, mouth, tongue that contribute to stone formation.

Im also thinking about trying those rubber bulbs that Murine supplies with the ear wax removal kit to flush the ears out after you soften the wax, as the rubber is tiny at the end to get into and behind the flap, and inject, it will surely be softer than my current setup.


Mellish:

People have used bent Qtips with great success removing them, but take my advise and cut back (totally if you can)on dairy, use Orange Flavored Listering after every meal,

You can thank me later when they stop forming :) hahahah
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom Xena38 [Log on to view profile] on 2006-01-30
In my opinion and with my results I have to agree with unleaded about dairy. I found my experiences with dairy, which I mentioned before I don't really touch, have been all good. It seems to me any time I do drink milk, eat ice cream or yogurt my stones tend to show there face more but they're easier to dislodge and stay away for longer periods of time. So maybe some dairy doesn't create more but dislodges them and makes it seem like they're getting worse. The yogurt kick I'm on is showing great results so until a more permanent solution is found I'm going to continue with yogurt.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom nomostinkbomb [Log on to view profile] on 2006-01-30
Xenia,

Maybe the reason they show "their face more" is because there is MORE face to show :) hahah

They also might dislodge faster because the are growing faster and eventually buldge out of the crypt and are so bloated, they fall out! :)

Course you can do whatever you want, and this is Just IMHO FWIW. But have you tried stopping the DAIRY altogeter for a week or so?

All I know is I havent had ONE major stone since I stopped cottage cheese, milk, and most dairy products including yogurt. I have the occasional butter and some sour cream, but not often. And I'm ALWAYS rinsing with Listerine shortly after eating foods but ESP when eating DAIRY.

Also Im not saying DAIRY is the SOLE producer of the stones, but IMO its like dumping gas on a fire, you already have calcium and bacterias going in your mouth naturally then you add the calcium, nanobac, and bacterias from milk products and dairy, to the sulfur and food compounds already in your mouth and in and on your tongue and its a recipe for harvesting some nice looking stones! Stone Fertiilizer! ha

Listerine is a LIQUID so it does a good job of getting inbetween the texture and the crevaces of your tongue, esp in the crtical back of the tongue, inbetween your teeth, and even into the tonsils and the tonsil canal itself. (I force it back there flushing it out)

The liquid swished is in the mouth is removing any food particles inbetween the teeth as well. Lets not forget that the food that is not removed between your teeth, tends to ROT even overnight, forming bacterias and sulfer compounds, which BTW, sulfer has been found to be one of the main ingredients of the pathology makup of the stones, says Medical Dr. and Scientific Researchers who have disected and determined their makup. (I read this on the net on other sites too)

Stones are formed like an onion with layers and layers of calcium, dead white blood cells, sulfer compounds, and food particles, etc. Im sure there are others. But this is what I remember.

Im also convinced that NANO bac, (smaller than typical bac) play a large ROLE in the formation of stones on a NANO LEVEL. There is certain NANO bac that thrive on the Calcium esp from MILK products, which when they multiply they form a hard "shell" around themsevlves for protection and form what is known as PLAQUE.


This IMHO is the SAME proccess that forms PLAQUE on the teeth, its a hard tough substance that has to be chipped off by your dentist. (Calcifiction)

Not to get too far off on this subject, If you want to learn more about Calcium/NanoBAC and its relationship to heart disease get the book

"THE Calcium Bomb"

it explains in detail what Im talking about. Its really facinating that they can now reverse and or reduce Heart Disease by using antiboitics and drugs that target and melt the "shell" of NB.

First they penetrate the shell of the nano bac, then go in killing them with anti-biotics.

If you want proof of sulfer food theory, just dont gargle, brush or floss after eating some meat foods some evening. Try to leave a piece of meat, fish or chicken between your teeth then go to bed.. hhahah

You'll, Wake up with a mouth that smells like the foulest part of HELL, as the bacteria and enzyms in your mouth build up on the meat sliver, trying to digest it.

Then as your tongue scrapes across your ALREADY enlarged tonsil, minute bits of food, sulfer, dead cells collect in your little crypt friends thus producing stones.

I dont think food eating habits and gargle frequency play a role in the formation as well. One might get away with Dairy if it is NOT left in the mouth for extended periods of time, ie gargling shortly after eating or drinking dairy products.

This could skew the results making people think dairy is OK, when in reality, if its LEFT in the mouth in the form of MUCUS layers, even for short periods of time say hours. Stones can begin to form quickly.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom nomostinkbomb [Log on to view profile] on 2006-01-30
Also Forum Poll:

I have a theory that MOST Sufferers of Chronic Tonsil Stones have LARGER than NORMAL tonsil size to begin with, making them even MORE prone to stones than the typical person as Crypts are larger and more easily formed in the Tonsils.

Also What we really need to find out is WHY WHY WHY these tonsils are SO LARGe in the FIRST place? And also what is NORMAL tonsil size? Which leads me to my Forum Poll Question Below..

Mine are smaller than a #2 pencil erasure, and BARELY visible, and just protrude past the tonsil flap.

Forum Question: What are the size of your Tonsils?
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Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom jana320 [Log on to view profile] on 2006-01-31
I used to read this site frequently, as I had years of problems with my tonsils and with tonsil stones. I used the Q tip, mouthwash, waterpick, and so on, but the stones always came back. Worse than that, I often had a sore throat, swollen glands, sore ear; all from my tonsils. I finally got my tonsils removed 4 days ago. It hasn't been fun, but I am finally rid of the problem that plagued me for so long. My ENT didn't hesitate to remove them. Good luck to you all.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom Xena38 [Log on to view profile] on 2006-01-31
nomostinkbombs, everything you've said about dairy makes sense. I tended to agree with the dairy theory until I put dairy back in my diet.
I don't have to take a week break from the dairy to find out what it's doing for me because dairy hasn't been in my diet for several, several years. Last week was the first time I had a glass of milk and ate yogurt for YEARS, I take calcium pills, and I noticed a drastic change in my throat. I don't have a nasty taste, no full feeling and I don't see the little buggers protruding from the crypts. I'm not saying it's working for sure, it could be just a coincidence but I'm gonna keep going with it till it shows otherwise. I feel good so let's hope I'm not actually messing myself up more. I'll let you know the outcome.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom nomostinkbomb [Log on to view profile] on 2006-01-31
you have been taking calcium pills and were getting stones with NO dairy in your diet, just taking calcium? If so its quite possible the calcium the stones are getting to use and form is from the pills vs dairy.

How about cheeses? Or butter?

I wont argue with the benifits of yogurt. its possible this form or Milk is actually GOOD for the body and doesnt contian the proper MIX of ingredients to form the stones, I hope this is the case actually.

It May infact help the body fight them. This is an unknown IMHO. to me the Jury is still out on yogurt, but I love yogurt and maybe will test the theory out on myself hahaha

Keep me posted on your milk situation. You maybe feeling better from the cultures in the Yogurt. I would be afraid of the milk though.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom unleaded [Log on to view profile] on 2006-01-31
So far for me, so good. I popped out the last batch on Friday morning after eating some Vanilla Ice Cream, had the chocolate the next day, been eating cheeses too and other dairy, milk and stuff and no stones have returned. Also I chew gum as often as I can, this actually helps I believe too. But ever since last Friday my throat is clear of these things. So from now on if I do get another one I'll take note on what I specifically did to dislodge it. But really for me at times these things can be totally random, can sometimes got for months without getting them, sometimes years. Hard to really comment on what might work or not work with me, but since I discovered this site, I have alot of other options I can always try, thanks to all of you that have the same affiliction as me. Maybe these things just weren't made to be understood, like a human glitch, lol.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom Fielding Mellish [Log on to view profile] on 2006-01-31
Argh! I still can't get this thing out! It's trapped beteen the tonsil and the front tonsilar arch. I can barely see it if I push on the side of the arch.

I tried the WaterPik (going to try again tonight) and I can't get to it with a Q-Tip or anything else.

Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
Tonsil UlcerFrom kavithasmenon [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-01
hello can someone help me out...
I have had this ulcer on my right tonsil for nearly a month..its very similar to a mouth ulcer except for teh fact that it is on my tonsil and i get this foreign body sensation too..my tonsils are a bit large but i dont have much of an associated pain....I am really chicken about going to a doctor...am on Spetillin from Himalaya Drug company and take Echinacea once in a while....
I feel my right ear paining but very rarely only....can someone please help me out....am new to the forum.....saw a post by a parent (Zenazord) whose child had tonsil ulcer but do not know how to reply to it or contact her to check what happeend....
more bugging are the thoughts that it could be cancer/ TB of the tonsils etc...am worried....please help....
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom peperonimum [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-01
nomostinkbomb great post to date!! i just had rotton breath tonight and had to clean out that tonsil it was huge. all of them about 10 spewed out!! i hate them soo much. makes me feel like a freak. my tonsil is small now.
though i have been eating icecream lately. my tongue smells the same as the stones. so if i keep my tongue cleaner maybe the stones will go to hell and stay there!! thanks heaps
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom ronjenn696 [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-02
FIELDING MELLISH

Try "milking" your tonsil.

How can I explain this?.... Stick your tongue all the way out of your mouth & then stick your middle finger in your mouth - all the way to where the outside of the tonsil is - & press gently - you'll see green/yellow pus come out & eventually a white stone will come out. You have to press on the outside tonsil canal - the thick area just to the side of you uvula (hanging bally thing in your mouth).
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom Fielding Mellish [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-02
Thanks for the advice. That's sort of what I was doing, pushing on the outside of the tonsilar arch. It didn't work.

Fortunatly, I had another go with the WaterPik last night and after a bunch of trying I manged to get it in the right place. The stone popped out and let me tell you, it was HUGE. It had to be at least 5mm, if not a little bigger.

I can see a pit in my tonsil that is normaly covered by the arch. I'll have to keep a close eye on this in the future. I can't believe how big that thing got though.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom kavithasmenon [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-02
Please advice on the ulcer guys and gals...am really worried....

hello can someone help me out...
I have had this ulcer on my right tonsil for nearly a month..its very similar to a mouth ulcer except for teh fact that it is on my tonsil and i get this foreign body sensation too..my tonsils are a bit large but i dont have much of an associated pain....I am really chicken about going to a doctor...am on Spetillin from Himalaya Drug company and take Echinacea once in a while....
I feel my right ear paining but very rarely only....can someone please help me out....am new to the forum.....saw a post by a parent (Zenazord) whose child had tonsil ulcer but do not know how to reply to it or contact her to check what happeend....
more bugging are the thoughts that it could be cancer/ TB of the tonsils etc...am worried....please help....
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom Xena38 [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-02
kavithasmenon, my advice is to see a doctor ASAP. The only thing I know about ulcers is they don't go away on their own. My mom has neuropathy in her feet which makes her unable to feel anything but a pins and needles sensation. One day while on vacation she horribly burnt the bottom of her feet in the sand , which in turn turned into ulcers. Bad part next, my mom has had to have several surgeries to remove infected skin and bones and they still come back. So PLEASE go to a doctor. I can't imagine seeing a doctor is more scarey to you then what's happening to your throat.

nomostinkbombs, like I said before I don't like a lot of dairy products so for the last three days I again haven't had any, I eat cheese pretty regularly though always have, and yesterday I started noticing a slight nasty taste in my mouth but saw nothing. This morning I woke up and now I can at least see two of them peeking out. My head hurts and I feel so crappy. I don't know which way to lean towards now, dairy or no dairy.
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Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom tonsilsnomore [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-03
Jana320, I am happy for you I have my tonsils taken out on the 10th and I can not wait...

I have had a stone in mouth for over 2 weeks now and the stone refuses to come out.. Plus I gag on everything I try to get down my throat...
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom tonsils gone [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-03
well anyone going to have this operation done better think twice about it anyway or better have a support system a very good support system in tact. because if they dont then think about it when you take them out you had better be ready for some pain and agony and also the worst sore throat that may or may not go away and also no one had better not smoke around you or do anything like that sort of thing because once they do you had better plug your nose up and cross your fingers because your throat is no longer protected anymore. so think twice about it because i did not when i should have because your protectors and your buddies once they are gone you cannot get them back so just think about and then if you still decide to go thru with it then you had better have yourself a d.... good doctor and one that knows what he is doing so very little pain as possible well any way get my drift . and think twice about your ears and throat and also if they do take them out be sure that it is not winter time when they do and dont even think about getting around someone sick for at least one month. well anyway get my drift.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom uosung [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-03
I can't find the white lump but definitely feel it hanging down in my right part of the throat when I swallow saliva. Is there any chance that this uncomfortable sticky feeling might be resulted in post nasal drip? By the way my breath stinks like rotten egg, I am not sure what that means.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom Brittany2923 [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-03
Hey everyone! i have these little things, their little white things that come out of the sides of my throat and their really gross! it sounds like what yall have, but someone said it had to do with smoking or coffee or something. But im 13 and i dont do either. Their really gross and they come ALL the time. What do i do besides gargle?
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom keck211 [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-04
I have the same problem and I am so tired of my boyfriend cringing when I kiss him. Food doesn't even taste the same sometimes. I'm thinking of just having the tonsillectomy.

Can everyone who has had one/ knows someone who has had one write about it? What kind was it/ how bad was it/ and did it finally get rid of these stones? Please! It will help me decide.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom tonsils gone [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-04
i would think that is not a good thing but it is not all of the tonsils fault you know think about it when you get sick the tonsil swell sometimes for some people but then they go down now think about if you did not have them then what would swell and what would hurt and everything else.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom jana320 [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-04
tonsils gone,

From what I hear given the several people I know who no longer have tonsils, they just are not sick as they used to be. I am an adult and felt dumb to be getting my tonsils out, but my ENT told me that he sees many adults who would have benefitted from getting tonsils removed much earlier, except for the notion that if "it's better to get tonsillitis than to get some other type of infection." For those of us with crappy tonsils, the tonsils themselves were (or are) the problem, and without them, the person would feel MUCH better. I am day 8 tonsil free and though I still have pain from the surgery, I have no more swollen glands; first time in ages and ages.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom jana320 [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-04
Tonsils Gone,

I think for many people who get their tonsils removed, they just are NOT as sick as they used to be. It's not necessarily the case that if the tonsils are removed, you will get sick in some other part of your body. Are yours gone?
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom ronjenn696 [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-04
I have 3 entex pills left. Everytime i take them they give me cotton mouth. For the past 3 days I've been hocking up bright yellow/green mucous. i can squeeze this stuff from my tonsils, also.
Last night my throat started to ache, along with my ear.
Today I woke up with barely a voice & my voice box feels like a sore muscle.
I just give up. I don't want to have these things - but do not want to have a tonsilectomy. I haven't had dairy in 5 days & there's just no improvement. I also bought the orange listerine. When I gargle it feels like my ears will pop & everything sounds fuzzy. Sometimes my ears will ache afterwards.
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom kavithasmenon [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-04
Thanks Xena for the advice...I went to our Institute doc and he said that I have got chrnic tonsillitis and that drinking warm water and avoiding cold foods should be ok. He says that the tissue there which seems to be an ulcer might be dead tonsil tissue.
It does nto hurt. So now i suspect whetehr it is an ulcer at all.
any suggestions?
have a nice weekend,
Kavitha
 
Re: White Bumps In ThroatFrom bonseye [Log on to view profile] on 2006-02-04
I am so happy to have found this forum. I have had this problem for years and thought that it was a really freak thing! What relief I have. My ear hurt so bad yesterday I broke down and went to the doctor. My left tonsil was full of that disgusting stuff. He told me about the crypts and hence after "googling" I found this site. I have always been disgusted and afraid to say anything. I always feel like there is water in my ear and my tonsils are swollen and red from time to time. The white stuff is almost always there. I do believe that some people have bigger tonsils and I am curious to pay attention and see if diet is related. I am going to try some of the suggestions that I have read here. The idea of a small syringe to rinse is great. It certainly can't be healthy to have a "mini" infections brewing in the tonsils all the times. I would love to have them out but hate pain :). I had a strep test yesterday, which doesn't even bother me--my daughter couldn't believe that I didn't gag. I think my throat is just not sensitive. and after being able to squeeze your tonsil--what's a strep test? I will keep up with this forum. and share anything I learn.
Thanks!
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