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Sabra - Child specialist | From reni2005 [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-02-26 |
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Hello,
My daughter aged 11 (Sasha) has fever for the last 2 days. Today happens to be the third day. Has not gone to school for the past 2 days.
She is suffering from high fever. In the evenings the temp rises and I have to constantly apply ice cold pack on her forehead. Her throat and body is very hot.
She complains of eyes burning, throat pain, body pain, and cough.
Constantly wants to lie down. Not eaten anything properly for the past 2 days.
Yesterday she had diarhorea twice. Drinking water and had couple of biscuits.
The first day initially gave her Belladona 200C twice. Did not work. In the evenings as the temp started rising changed and gave her Gels 200 4 hourly. Yet her fever has not subsided.
Pls advise meds. if further details are reqd, kinldy do let me know.
Concerned mother who happened to stay awake in the night for 2 days, checking temp, swiping her forehead etc.
Thank you
Reni |
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| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From madanbhms [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-02-26 |
Dear Reni,
I would like to know the following details.Hows your childs thirst.Any chill,sweat.Does she cover herself.Whats the cause.Check her pulse,urine.Any restlessness | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From reni2005 [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-02-26 |
Hello,
As far as thirst is concerned, she tends to drink water thro out. If she has to go to the toilet, she would come back and have a glass of water.
She does not feel chilly, cuddles up in blanket. A bit restless. No sweat.
3 years back she was operated for tonsils.
Was chilly a few days back and now the climate has changed.
Thank you,
Reni | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From madanbhms [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-02-26 |
Dear Reni,
The drug of choice is ars alb 200 in water dose hourly.
Its always better to interpose a dose of sulph or tuberculinum in 200 potency.I think she should be well in a day. | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From reni2005 [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-02-26 |
Hi Mr Madan,
I will give her Ars Alb 200 in water dose.
Water dose is - 2/3 drops in 3 tablespoon of water. Correct me if I am wrong.
What do you mean my interpose a dose of sulphur. Do I have to give her a single dose of sulphur. Read in the forum that sulphur is to be given in the morning after a mouthwash. No brushing etc.
Pls advise.
Thank you
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| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From madanbhms [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-02-26 |
Dear Reni,
Dissolve 5pills or three drops of ars alb in 20 spoons of water and give 2spoons hourly.Give 1 dose of sulphur preferably before orin between the water dose.In acute conditions we need not wait for mornings.Sulphur can be given any time. | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From sabra [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-02-26 |
Dear Reni, Sulphur may be given at any time, but is better to "begin" dosage in the morning as it resets the treatment.
No remedy is given (literly) "after" the mouth wash, but either before or around two hours later as mouth wash is strong.
Not in agreement for the Tuberculinum so quickly. Too many remedies.
As the Gels did not do noticable activity, Ars Alb was a good next remedy.
Giving so many remedies in two days is too quickly as the child is not suffering excessivly as one that has high fever that requires close watching. Try to be peaceful and watchful to give symptoms as they occur or change. Your anxiety will cause anxiety in her and you will not be as good at reporting symptoms.
I would like to know more about the "chill." How? What are you describing? Outside weather, inside, from something, or just a symptom? Is she still wrapping up in the blanket? Is she sleeping...or...? Tummy activity. Mental activity?
I am sorry to be late in replying as I took two days off the computer due to other local responsibilities taking so much time.
Withing 6 doses of the Ars Alb given as Madan suggests, you should know something if there are changes. Ars is quick to show responses.
After 24 hours IF there is improvement, cease the Sulphur and give Ars Alb only if needed, sort of like a booster, or to finish up.
Please report present conditions. I will check back twice more today. I am usually on late at night before bed.
Blessings, Sabra | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From sabra [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-02-26 |
Recounting my remark about "suffering excessively" was not exactly what I meant. The fever did not sound "dangerous," but very uncomfortable...sorry. I did not mean to make light of your feelings.
Is the ice used for a headache or the fever heat? You see how it is when we are not there. Every little detail is so important.
Ears, eyes, throat, Please report any changes, or more on the first report so that we can consider the "first" symptoms as comparison.
Blessings, Sabra | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From reni2005 [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-01 |
Hi,
Thanks to all who contributed to my postings.
I had added 2 drops of Ars Alb in water and given her a table spoon every hourly for a whole day (Sunday). Evenings again fever started and eyes started burning and watering. Thirst was also high and she was feeling chilly. I gave her a paracetamol. She slept the night. Morning I gave her sulphur 200- 1 dose after she having gargled with water. (Sabra- In India mouthwash is normally done with water before brushing ones teeth(sort of to take bed tea).
After conditions were the same. Eyes watering, fever and chilly. Evening I took her to the doctor (homeopath). Night gave her a paracetemol and she slept. Today morning she had cough. Insisted on going to school. Her oral exams are starting from today. She missed going to school on Thurs, Fri & Monday.
It was a tough decision. Tried with all medicines.
Sabra a request to you.
Could you give general/specific symtoms to match in acute cases. Would prefer it for cold and fever.
Potency and dosages for the meds also.
As a mother was extremely anxious to see results of the meds.
Today morning before going to school, she was coughing a lot.
Will post further details once she comes from school.
Thank you once again.
Reni
PS. Do not forget to post the details for acute cold and fever. | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From sabra [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-02 |
I am sorry, it is impossible to post even "general" symptoms as you request. There are only generals for each different remedy. And there are 3000.
Remedies are to be compared by what the child is exibiting and gathered to form a "picture" of the individual. Homeopathy is not easy. After 40 years, I still struggle. If I have the child before me it is much easier.
One must have the patience to report accurately the details of the symptoms. Like was the ice for headache or fever, or she liked it? Each answer is a clue to the individual that is your child for that particular condition at that particular time.
I am working with 6 children that have cough, mucus, and eczema. The picture of their symptoms are actually so different that they are given different remedies.
I have studied your posting and even though I would like to have much more, here is a remedy to try. Belladonna is a hot child. Gelsemium is a sleep through it and Ars is hot and burning restless.
I believe from what you write your child is more burning.
So, this burning is a "feeling" of burning. More than the Ars Alb.
CANTHARIS is a remedy for burning (and burns) and fits many of the things you wrote.
Please get 30X and place a few drops in a glass of water, or one dose of the dry and stir to melt. I know it seems one cannot get the X as easy as C so get as low as possible. Good with this remedy.
A half teaspoon is one dose. One does not need to give a big amount. If one drinks the whole glass, it is ONE dose. Small bits and often is how it works. Several doses per day. Stop or slow when better.
Thank you for explaining the mouthwash. In america, everything is extreme.
Write me, a1remedy at yahoo.com
Blessings, Sabra | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From reni2005 [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-02 |
Hi Sabra,
With ur blessings the child is fine. From yesterday she started going to the school with the drum of med given by the local homeopath. The fever bit is gone except the cough(not dry). Coughing persistantly for some time and almost feel like she is going to vomit.
She had high fever. It had crossed 100 hence had to apply an ice pack to reduce the temp. Wiping her body and applying for some time on the forehead. Anyway Thank God she has come of it.
She has passed on the fever to the elder daughter. Monday while going to the school cycling she felt giddy.
She came back from school, pulled up the blanket and went inside the blanket. After that every conversation with her was from beneath the blanket. She is constantly saying that she has a headache. Even today morning (Now it is 11.15 AM in India) she was complaining of headache. Sides of her ribs are paining. She was also complaining of pains in the stomach, legs and hands.
She was also operated for her tonsils. Yesterday water was also coming out of her eyes.
She has got another 13 days for her high school final exams (10th std in India).
Initially when she complained of fever, headache, leg and hand pain, my hubby gave her a dose of Bryonia 200C. Anyway as I had to take the younger one to the homeopath, I brought for her also meds from the doc. Now today is the third day, she still complains of headache, the body pain on both sides (not front and back of the body) below the ribs.
Pls advise. To top it all everybody in the house me included is sick except my husband. We r a family of four. Two girls 12 and 14 years.
Thank you for your help.
Best wishes..Reni | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From sabra [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-02 |
I wrote a post and banged my keyboard and lost it. The first daughter with the cough, if it actually causes vomit, use a dose of homeopathic IPECAC as needed. (another dose or two of Ars alb) OR...what did the doctor give??
The second, now sick, sounds quite like GELSEMIUM. Put one dry dose in bottle of drinking water, shake to melt, and let her sip it often. Her headache and love of the blankets and body pain points to Gels. Also the dizzy.
It is 11:45 PM here and I am falling asleep. Goodnight. Please post soon. I will check when I get up.
Blessings, Sabra
Part of my Article on Flu
INFLUENZINUM and OSCILLOCOCCINUM has been recommended by many on this forum as prophylactic and in the treatment of Flu symptoms. They are available in your local health store.
Both of these remedies come in tubes that recommend taking one full tube as one dose. This is a falsehood. These are tiny granules and 5 or 6 (about) are one dose. A whole tube is one dose if taken as directed. If the pellets are larger, 2 or 3 is one dose. A complete waste of money. This is the marketing gimmick to cause one to buy more often. Three years ago they were $6.99 per package. Now they cost as much as $15 per package.
There are MANY other homeopathic remedies excellent for flu according to symptoms reported:
Report fever symptoms right away. Age, male or female. How long sick.
Activity of personality when sick. Sore throat, cough, earache, swellings.
Quiet, restless, irritable, vomiting or not, diarrhea, facial appearance.
Sleeping symptoms, hot and dry, chilly, kicks covers off or not. World of their own. Unresponsive, hallucinations. (One of my children had hallucinations, spooky!)
Of course, if you are new to homeopathy, PLEASE be assured your child or family do not need to fit all these symptoms. It is just an example of what you should look for.
Report in single sentences instead of a run-together paragraph. It is easier for us to study.
Here are some of the most common flu remedies if one has a book to study.
Apis M.
Arsenicum Album
Allium Cepa
Antimonium Tart.
Belladonna
Bryonia
Calcarea Carb
Calcarea Phosphorica
Carbo Veg.
Causticum
Chamomilla
Eupatoruum Perfol.
Ferrum Phos.
Gelsemium
Hepar Sulph. Cal.
Ipecacuanha
Kali Bichromicum
Kali Carb
Lycopodium
Natrum Sulph
Nat Muriaticum
Nitric Acid
Nux Vomica
Phytolacca
Pulsatilla
Rhus Tox
Rumex
Sarcolactic Acid
Spongia T.
Sulphur
Veratrum Album
Additional Information:
www.homeopathic.org/crtoddh.htm
http://my.webmd.com/content.article/103481.htm
If you email me, I will send you a 13 page paper I wrote on remedies and cross referencing. | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From Challa [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-03 |
This I took from a forum.....
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The tragedy of homeopathy is, homeopaths have no academic background of knowing body chemistry and chemical science. They do not study chemistry as seperate subject. Second point is they are not interested in studying or understanding this subject in future too. They also have no interest with pharmacodynamics. They do not know taxonomy at all. They have no link with study of families and their relationship. They do not know the value of medicinal plant.
Pharmacies are making potencies... How do they prepare? No body knows except that they know what pharmcies feed to them (homeopath). The most interesting point in this entire discussion is, when ever homeopaths use these potencies they got "CURED" result. So there is no chance or question of threating patient life. Homeopath do not think that these potencies can harm patient's health. or patient life is on great risk when they use carcinosin, tuberculinum, bacilinum, medo, oscillococcinum and other nosodes.
Due federal court of law, Schwabe and Dolisos have stopped manufaturing these nosodes. Because, they have no answers how do they prepare hepatitis 200. How did they remove toxicity of DNA or RNA virus when they have no technology except that they potentised living virus upto 30 and 200 and claim that virus has gone....
And we (I am included) are using them freely and claim that we are curing patient.
Sometime I think, we are killer, we do not know what we are applying over patients. Read this report, homeopathy is full of this type of stories but no body ever mentioned in homeopathic discussion forum because as a homeopath I think that this is against homeopathy and we will not like to confirm this news.
Oscillococcinum is a complete sham.
Q: I received by mail a free sample of a natural homeopathic flu remedy called oscillococcinum. How well does it work?
A: Oscillococcinum is a complete sham. Its name comes from strange vibrating bacteria seen by French physician Joseph Roy in the blood and tumors of cancer patients; in tubercles of tuberculosis patients; and in patients who had eczema, mumps, chicken pox and measles. No one else has seen these organisms before or since. What's more, eczema is not caused by bacteria, and mumps, chicken pox and measles are caused by a virus.
Roy's belief was that oscillococcinum are everywhere. For reasons that are unclear, he took the liver and heart from a Muscovy duck, placed them in a bottle to allow for decomposition, and diluted the material with so much water that it was impossible for even one molecule of liver and heart extract to remain. This is in keeping with the belief of homeopathy that the more dilute an extract is, the better it is.
The homeopathic view is that even if no molecules of extract remain in the dilution, they leave behind a "memory" which may be of benefit. That's as absurd as saying that one may become rich by breathing the air at a bank.
Why are unproven homeopathic drugs allowed to be sold? They fall under the protection of the 1938 Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, pushed through Congress by a homeopathic physician who also happened to be a U.S. senator.
Challa | | |
| Re: Proving detail of OCCI | From Challa [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-03 |
Julian MM of NosodesOscillococcinumOSCILLOCOCCINUM
<BIBLIOGRAPHY>
<Roy Joseph>
Towards the knowledge and cure of Cancer. (Vers la connaissance et la guerison du cancer.) Edition du Raisin 1925.
<Chavanon Paul>
Therapeutique O.R.L. (E.N.T.) homoeopathique. Imprimerie Saint-Denis, 1935.
<Julian, 0.A.>
Biotherapiques et Nosodes. Libraire Maloine, 1962, Paris. Mat. Med. der Nosoden, K.F. Hang Verlag. Heidelberg 1975, 2nd, ed.
<Hui-Bon-Hoa, J.>
Guerison d'un cas'd ulcere variqueux avec Oscillococcinum 200. Annales Homeopathiques francaises, 1968; p. 90-938.
<Wolter, H.>
Pathogenesie de Galinsoga. parviflora-Allg. Homoep. Zig. No. 3. Schmidt, P.
Quelques indications cournates de remedes homeopathiques d' urgence. Annales Homoeopathiques, Fasc, No. 9, nov. 74, p 48-709.
<History>
In the year 1925 Joseph Roy is believed to have observed in some conditions of culture the existence of a germ animated by an oscillating movement.
He named the nosode because of this fact.
These researches helped him to describe a biotherapic remedy which was called Oscillococcinum of which the clinical experiments in the infections of Influenza and E.N.T. were carried. out in particular by Paul Chavanon. Oscillococcinum 200 is actually a patent property of Boiron Laboratory, France.
<Stock>
J. Boiron and J. Abecassis were kind enough to communicate to us the technique of preparation of that patent medicine which is as follows:
The stock of Oscillococcinum is an autolysate filtered from the liver and the heart of a duck.
<It is characterised by>
1. Some criteria of preparation.
2. Some physical criteria.
3. Some chemical criteria. Though the preparation is not utilised by injection.
4. Some trials of sterility are done.
5. Some experiments of innocuousness are done.
<CRITERIA OF Preparation>
It is processed in rigorous aseptic conditions in a place exposed to ultra-violet rays. All the glass utensils and materials used are sterilised beforehand.
<In a bell jar with flat bottom of 1,000 ml is placed>
225 ml of solution of pancreatic peptone at 1%.
225 ml of serum glucosed at 10% tyndalised.
The duck is decapitated, the heart and the liver is taken out in a sterile way.
In this jar are put 35 to 37 gr. of the liver and 14 to 15 gr. of the heart.
Then the jar is put in the incubator at 37 for 40 days and thereafter the autolysate is filtered on filtted porous glass.
It is that solution which is the stock of the remedy and is lyophylised in order to be preserved.
From that rehydrated stock, the 200th dilution (Korsakovian) is prepared which is utilised for the impregnation of the globules.
The experiments are done by the stock constituting the preparation of the M T. which alone may be put to analysis.
<Physical Criteria>
The stock is either in liquid form, yellow in colour more or less shaded, or in the form of a lyophilisate which is rehydrated during the control by adding a quantity of water equal to that which is taken out during the lyophilisation. Its physical properties are:
1. Index of refraction at 25: 1,3430+0,0015. 2. Density: 1,018+0.01. 3. Determination of pH: pH equal to 3, 1% 0, 3.
4. Spectrophotometric absorption curve in UV.
The stock of Oscillococcinum diluted to l/lOO in isotonic solution of Sodium chloride at 9/c presents a maximum of absorption situated between 260 and 275 nm.
The value of absorptions E 1/100/1 cm is of 0-38% 0.05.
<Chemical Criteria>
<1. ESTIMATION OF Total Nitrogen>
<(a) Principle>
Estimation of total Nitrogen by the method of Kjeldahl.
<(b) Technique>
For trial take 2 gr exactly weighed in a small glass tube. Introduce the tube in a distillation flask with long neck. Add 10 ml of concentrated Sulphuric acid and 0.05 gr of catalyser (Potassium sulphate 100 parts + Copper sulphate 10 parts + Selenium 1 part). Heat it until the liquid becomes limpid.
Transfer the liquid thus obtained to a distillation flask along with the water for rinsing and dilute with distilled water. Add some balls of glass or some grains of pumice stones in order to help ebullition.
The distillation flask is connected with a refrigeration system at the extremity of which there is an ampoule dipped into a beaker containing 25 ml 0, IN 104 and the Taschiri indicator (Methyl red + Methylene blue) added to it.
Pass an alkaline medium in the distillation flask in the presence of Phenophthalene adding about 50 ml of Soda ash by means of a funnel with long stem and start rapidly the refrigeration.
<Distil it for half an hour>
The Sodium displaces NH3 of NH4/2 S04 formed during the mineralisation and NHs neutralises partially the Sulphuric acid.
Take out the beaker from the end of the refrigerator and rinse the ampoule.
The excess of H2SO4 is titrated by n ml 0, 1 N NaOH till a faint grey colour appears.
Percentage of total Nitrogen (expressed in Gramms for lQOg): The total quantity of Nitrogen of the stock of Osciliococcinum should be within 0.297 wt%, and 0,363 wt%, (Poids ponderable).
<2. ESTIMATION OF AMINATED Nitrogen>
<(a) Principle>
Estimation by formol titration.
<(b) Technique>
Weigh exactly about 1 g. Oscillococcinum in an erlen Meyer. Add 9 ml distilled water and 2 drops of Phenophthalene. Neutralise by 0,1 N Caustic soda in the presence of a drop of Phenophthalene till there is a very pale pink colouration.
Add this formol to the preceding liquid, there is colouration.
Titrate then the acid liberated by 0-1 NaOH put in a flask till there is a clear red colour in comparison to the standard: 10 ml of formol. 15 ml of distilled water. 2 drops of Phenophthalene.
Add 0, 1 N NaOH till there is a rosy colour add again 0,2 to 0,3 ml to obtain the clear red colouration.
Let n be the number of millilitres used: Amino nitrogen (expressed in g. for 100g) 0.1401., n/p
The quantity of Aminated nitrogen should be between O.207 wt% and 0.253 wt%. (P/P).
<3. Proportion OF AMINATED Nitrogen>
The ratio: Aminated nitrogen/total nitrogen should be of 0.7+0.1.
<4. ESTIMATION OF The TYROSINE >
<(a) Principle>
(J. Loiseleur-Chemical estimation on proteins).
The phenolic group of Tyrosine is calorimetrically measured by means of Follin's reagent.
The final solution in which the colouration is developed should be at a pH between 7,1 and 7,6.
<(b) Technique>
Necessary reagents:
1. Follin's reagent is dissolved in a distillation flask of 1,500 c.c. capacity containing:
Tungstate of Sodium Na2W04 2H20. ..1OOg.
Sodium Molybdate Na2Mo04 2H20. ..25g.
Water... ... ... ...700 cc.
To this add: Phosphoric acid 85% 50 cc.
Concentrated hydrochloric acid 100 cc.
Now connect this flask to a reflux system with a condenser by means of a. cork stopper and boil on slow heat for 10 hours.
Then add 150 g of Lithium sulphate, 50 cc. of water and some drops of liquid Bromide.
This mixture is boiled, after separating the refrigerator, for about 15 mts. to dispose of the excess of Bromide and cooled down to 1 litre.
It is filtered.
The remaining reagent should not have a greenish colour, which will indicate the presence of the products of blue reduction.
The reagent should be kept in dust-proof atmosphere because the organic products are apt to produce some little reductions.
2. The buffer of alkaline Phosphate of J.J. Perez.
P04HK2 0, 5 M.........50 cc.
NaOH N .........4 cc.
3. Standard solution of Tyrosine * 0,50%.
This solution is prepared by the dissolution of 0,5 g of Tyrosine, dried over P205 in 100 cc of N/2 S04H2. Method of operation:
Mix lg of Stock for estimation with:
10 cc of water.
6 cc of Sodium chloride N/IO.
3 cc of Follin's reagent at 1/3.
5 cc of Alkaline phosphate.
Leave the solution for 3 to 4 hours at the ambiant temperature and take calorimetric reading comparatively with reference to 1 gr of titrated Tyrosine solution treated in the same solution.
Percentage of Tyrosine in G % (P/P) 0.5, DE/DT, p
The percentage of Tyrosine should be between 0.45 and 0.55 g% (p/pPoids ponderable).
<5. CHROMATOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS OF AMINO Acids>
<(a) Apparatus>
The analysis is done on Jeolco auto-analyser 5AH.
Each experiment is compared with a standard solution of witness Amino acid.
Resins utilised for the separation are respectively Aminex A4 for the Amino acids and neutrals, and Aminex A5 for basic Amino acids.
The photometric measurements are done at 440 and 570 nm and at three sensitivities (the sensitivity of the apparatus used is inferior to 10-9 mole for an Amino acid).
<(b) Results>
Particularly the following Amino acids are characterised: Lysine, Arginine, Glycine, Almine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Tyrosine, Phenylalanine.
The ratio:
Ananine/Glycine should be more than 1. Lucine/Isoleucine should be more than 1.
Phenylalanine/Tyrosine should be more than 2.
The ratio of Argenine, though weak, is relatively constant 4, 5 mg + l for 100 ml of autolysate.
As Boiron laboratory had not the necessary apparatus, this analysis was done by the Pharmaceutical Laboratory of Biochemistry combined Faculty of Medicine and Pharmacy, 8, Rokfeller Avenue, Lyon 8. M le Prof. Gras.
<Sterlity Test>
This test was done on three different mediums for 7 days as described in the French Pharmacopoea (8th ed., 1965, p. 1618).
Peptoned bouillon at 37.
Thyoglycolate bouillon at 37.
Glucosed Sabourand gelose at 24. The search was limited to a verification in male rats of (lot of 10 rats) or stock equal to 20+-2g of innocuousness of the M.T. administered intra-peritonially in an arbitrarily selected very strong dose of 0, 3 ML/rat.
<Clinical CORTICO Visceral PROTOCOL OR Clinical Pathogenesis>
There is no pathogenesis of this remedy according to the Hahnemannian method.
We are, however, trying to give a clinical pathogenesis base on the works of P. Chavanon, our own clinical experience and the case reports of Hui-Bon-Hoa.
<1. Generalities>
Anxiety, paleness, chill.
Sensitiveness to hygrometric and meteorologic changes, Tuberculous patients sensitive to cold. Luetosic subjects with fixed ideas, obsessions.
<2. Neuro-endocrino-psychic System>
Agony, anxious without any motive. Obstinate. &n bsp;
A busy body, maniac, cannot bear disorder, fear of dirt, fear of being polluted.
Has the need to wash his hands very often and is afraid of giving his hand to others for the fear of pollution, contagion.
Is afraid of storm.
<3. Digestive Apparatus>
Tongue white. Swelling of the stomach. Can digest neither milk nor eggs. Putrid regurgitations. Aquous or food vomiting.
Abdominal cramping pains followed by foetid diarrhoea. Sometimes stubborn constipation. Yellow conjunctiva. Icterus or pains in the appendicular region.
<4. Cardio-hemo-vascular System>
Hypotonia. Lipothymia.
Thermoregulation: Bruised sensation, chill, hyperthermia, headache with considerable throbbing.
<5. Respiratory Apparatus>
Oculo nasal catarrh.
Stuffed nose, nasal obstruction, sneezing. Serous discharge from the nose, then muco-purulent. Pain in the frontal and maxillary region. Nasal voice, aphonia, dry painful cough. Muco-purulent expectoration with humid cough.
Pains sometimes as if from needles in one or both the ears (In children, this symptom may not be found. Look at the tympanum which alone may be red at first, and swollen if there is purulent collection). Diminution of auditive acuity.
Retro-auricular pain, spontaneous or felt on pressure.
<6. Uro-genital Apparatus>
Turbid urine, less abundant, deep colour. Sometimes painful micturition.
<7. Skin, Phanera>
Varicose type of ulcers of the legs.
<8. Modalities>
<Aggravation>
By milk, by eggs.
<Amelioration>
By heat, by rest.
<POSOLOGY>
<Dynamisation>
There is only one dilution: 200 (K) (Korsakovian-single phial system). Classically I dose a day is used, or every 2 to 3 days.
At present we advise in acute affection repetition of dose every 2 to 3 hours (see Commentary).
<Positive Diagnosis>
Paleness, asthenia, hyperthermia. Oculo-nasal catarrh.
Laryngo-tracheo-bronchial congestion. Painful congestion of the tympanum. Gastro-intestinal troubles of influenza. Varicose ulcer.
<DIFFERENTIAL Diagnosis>
In classical homoeotherapy it should be noted: Eupat perf., Mercurius bio-iodatus, Cinnabaris. Among the biotherapics: Pyrogenium and Luesinum.
<New Medicines>
<Luffa operculata>
Fronto-occipital headache; acute or chronic inflammation of the mucous membrane of the nasal fossa, lassitude and bodily fatigue.
<Gaulphimia glauca>
Hypersecretion of the nasal and ocular mucous; sneezing, hypersensitivity to change of weather.
<Gatinsoga purviflora>
Morning headache, makes mistakes when writing numbers and letters; stuffed nose; augmentation of diuresis; articular pains, lassitude, feels as if bruised.
<Ginco biloba>
Pale face, drawn traits, numbness and chill. Laryngeal irritation with cough, frontal and left supra-orbita pain.
<Clinical Diagnosis>
Influenza "at the beginning as preventive as well as during convalescence". (P. Schmidt)
Influenza, gastro-intestinal type. Sinusitis, acute rhinitis. Laryngo-tracheo-bronchitis. Conjunctivitis of influenza. Mastoiditis.
"At the beginning of a disease which does not develop". (Schmidt)
<COMMENTARIES>
This biotherapic is a faithful remedy at the beginning of influenza, at the beginning of rhinitis, at the beginning of otitis.
Given early it is very efficacious.
Only in our time it requires repetition which Chavanon did not. To obtain good results in a case which begins and to cut short the manifestations of influenza of general type, or localised it is necessary to use one dose of Oscillococcinum 200 at least every 2 to 3 hours.
Thirty years ago and even in our rural practice it was enough to use 1 dose in 24 to 48 hours.
At present if one wishes to obtain a rapid and sure result one should not hasitate to use it as indicated above.
Fifteen years ago Chavanon observed this fact and said that Eupatorium perfoliatum is to be associated with it.
Now the technique that we have described is more important.
Even the counter-indications have been somewhat changed.
Chavanon is formal: Do not use Oscillococcinum in a cancer subject.
But at present, according to Hui-Bon-Hoa, it may be used in cancer subjects (ex-cancer subject).
In a case which he reports, he had a good clinical result in a patient who had varicose ulcer, only because the patient wrongly interpreted his prescription, "has taken Oscillococcinum 200 daily, three times a day" for thirty days instead of three days as it was prescribed.
So it is the posology which, according to us, was responsible for the therapeutic success.
It is for this reason one should take lesson from the facts, nothing but facts and should know to adapt to facts his method of prescription.
Thus we shall be always among those who, practice the art of cure enunciated by S. Hahnemann.
Finally here is the case report of Dr. Hui-Bon-Hoa published in the Annales Homoeopathiques francaises, 1968, p. 90-938. "Mme S, 82 years, calls me for visit, on the 20th September, 1962. She has, since two years, a large varicose ulcer about the shape of the palm of the hand, of elliptic form, on the internal face of the left leg.
The border is elevated, the base is greasy and sanious.
The skin around is thickened, pigmented and grafted by an eczema, very pruriginous.
The extremity is swollen, specially the foot. A.T. 18/10. No sugar in the urines.
<Antecedants>
Pulmonary congestion, cerebral congestion with the max. A.T. 24; fracture of the tibia 23 years ago, consolidated in a bad position, which has made the patient impotent (the patient is impotent beside obese): eczema on hands and legs since three years; rheumatic pains all over the body; no tubercular or cancer antecedants.
<Individual symptoms>
Obesity, colour like coffee with milk +++aggr.
In extreme temperature, closed room, before storm, fear of storm.
Anxiety for others in anticipation; becomes anxious when her daughter goes out in a carriage.
A meddler and a maniac; inspire of her impotence, she masturbates. "Fear of being polluted" even by her daughter who is a nurse. Terribly stubborn; sensitive to music; cannot digest milk and eggs.
<Treatment>
Carcinosinum 200 CH, a single dose. 2nd December, 1962: Clear amelioration.
The ulcer reduced. Eczema completely disappear. However the patient still does not sleep well.
<Treatment>
Hughe's treatment is tried. ...Carduus marianus M.T. 5 drops every four hours (also recommended by Dr. Windelband).
Calendula ointment locally (Principle and Practice of Homoeopathy by Hughes, C. Ringer and Co., Calcutta). ...We added: Troformone (locally).
4th January, 1963: Called for a visit. No amelioration. Patient fatigued.
As it was the time when we were using Oscillococcinum systematically in the place of carcinosinum, we prescribed: Oscillococcinum 200, 3 doses, to be taken one hour before each of the three meals on the same day.
We stopped the local treatment and recommended only cleanliness.
7th February 1963: Complete cure of the ulcer.
The patient was gay and smiling.
She says that she is in good form and that she sleeps well.
Another detail that we should mention: Having wrongly interpreted our prescription the patient has taken Oscillococcinum 200 daily three times a day till our visit, i.e. to say for 35 days.
In this particular case Oscillococcinum 200K of Dr. Jules Roy seems to have acted more vigourously than Carcinosinum 200 CH.
Finally in his work cited, P. Chavanon relates the following case: In the month of March, 1928 I was called by telephone on a Saturday towards noon, to see a patient at St.-Germain-en-Laye.
I had no time so I refused.
The sister of the patient, thought that the patient was transportable, decided to bring him to me urgently in a carriage at a time which was convenient for us.
At 15 hours the patient was at my house.
He was very pale.
He had 39.5 temperature.
He was shivering though the temperature of my chamber was at 22. The distance could not be covered rapidly because the jerkings were very painful for the patient.
He was suffering from the left ear since 3 days, in course of which the fever rose gradually.
He had vainly tried Belladonna 6, Capsicum 6 advised by Dr. Fortier-Bernoville on telephone.
I examined his ear.
The right tympanum had become swollen to a bursting point having a very dark red colour (as if tumified and infiltrated by dark blood).
The mastoid gland was sensitive.
It was our habit at that time about an otitis-even at that stage, but I decided not to open it.
While I was explaining to the patient, he became suddenly very pale, and was so laid down.
A robust boy of 20 years, suffering atrociously and any allopath would have opened his otitis widely.
I advised the sister to put the patient in the carriage (taxi), which was waiting at the door, take him down slowly up to the pharmacy in order to give him there a dose of Oscillococcinum 200 (which I had not with me) and to continue afterwards the local treatment giving him the granules which I gave.
On Monday I was informed that gradually as the taxi advanced up to the door of Maillot, the patient was feeling well. Arriving at the door of Maillot the patient felt so much well that he preferred to take the tramway in order to arrive at Saint-Germain.
He was feeling absolutely nothing and the temperature came down to 38.2. He was only very weak and fatigued.
Then he continued the treatment.
In the evening at 21 hours his temperature was only 37.5. And the next day when she woke up he had 36.8. I advised to disinfect the nose carefully for some time, then there was no relapse. | | |
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Julian MM of NosodesOscillococcinumOSCILLOCOCCINUM
<BIBLIOGRAPHY>
<Roy Joseph>
Towards the knowledge and cure of Cancer. (Vers la connaissance et la guerison du cancer.) Edition du Raisin 1925.
<Chavanon Paul>
Therapeutique O.R.L. (E.N.T.) homoeopathique. Imprimerie Saint-Denis, 1935.
<Julian, 0.A.>
Biotherapiques et Nosodes. Libraire Maloine, 1962, Paris. Mat. Med. der Nosoden, K.F. Hang Verlag. Heidelberg 1975, 2nd, ed.
<Hui-Bon-Hoa, J.>
Guerison d'un cas'd ulcere variqueux avec Oscillococcinum 200. Annales Homeopathiques francaises, 1968; p. 90-938.
<Wolter, H.>
Pathogenesie de Galinsoga. parviflora-Allg. Homoep. Zig. No. 3. Schmidt, P.
Quelques indications cournates de remedes homeopathiques d' urgence. Annales Homoeopathiques, Fasc, No. 9, nov. 74, p 48-709.
<History>
In the year 1925 Joseph Roy is believed to have observed in some conditions of culture the existence of a germ animated by an oscillating movement.
He named the nosode because of this fact.
These researches helped him to describe a biotherapic remedy which was called Oscillococcinum of which the clinical experiments in the infections of Influenza and E.N.T. were carried. out in particular by Paul Chavanon. Oscillococcinum 200 is actually a patent property of Boiron Laboratory, France.
<Stock>
J. Boiron and J. Abecassis were kind enough to communicate to us the technique of preparation of that patent medicine which is as follows:
The stock of Oscillococcinum is an autolysate filtered from the liver and the heart of a duck.
<It is characterised by>
1. Some criteria of preparation.
2. Some physical criteria.
3. Some chemical criteria. Though the preparation is not utilised by injection.
4. Some trials of sterility are done.
5. Some experiments of innocuousness are done.
<CRITERIA OF Preparation>
It is processed in rigorous aseptic conditions in a place exposed to ultra-violet rays. All the glass utensils and materials used are sterilised beforehand.
<In a bell jar with flat bottom of 1,000 ml is placed>
225 ml of solution of pancreatic peptone at 1%.
225 ml of serum glucosed at 10% tyndalised.
The duck is decapitated, the heart and the liver is taken out in a sterile way.
In this jar are put 35 to 37 gr. of the liver and 14 to 15 gr. of the heart.
Then the jar is put in the incubator at 37 for 40 days and thereafter the autolysate is filtered on filtted porous glass.
It is that solution which is the stock of the remedy and is lyophylised in order to be preserved.
From that rehydrated stock, the 200th dilution (Korsakovian) is prepared which is utilised for the impregnation of the globules.
The experiments are done by the stock constituting the preparation of the M T. which alone may be put to analysis.
<Physical Criteria>
The stock is either in liquid form, yellow in colour more or less shaded, or in the form of a lyophilisate which is rehydrated during the control by adding a quantity of water equal to that which is taken out during the lyophilisation. Its physical properties are:
1. Index of refraction at 25: 1,3430+0,0015. 2. Density: 1,018+0.01. 3. Determination of pH: pH equal to 3, 1% 0, 3.
4. Spectrophotometric absorption curve in UV.
The stock of Oscillococcinum diluted to l/lOO in isotonic solution of Sodium chloride at 9/c presents a maximum of absorption situated between 260 and 275 nm.
The value of absorptions E 1/100/1 cm is of 0-38% 0.05.
<Chemical Criteria>
<1. ESTIMATION OF Total Nitrogen>
<(a) Principle>
Estimation of total Nitrogen by the method of Kjeldahl.
<(b) Technique>
For trial take 2 gr exactly weighed in a small glass tube. Introduce the tube in a distillation flask with long neck. Add 10 ml of concentrated Sulphuric acid and 0.05 gr of catalyser (Potassium sulphate 100 parts + Copper sulphate 10 parts + Selenium 1 part). Heat it until the liquid becomes limpid.
Transfer the liquid thus obtained to a distillation flask along with the water for rinsing and dilute with distilled water. Add some balls of glass or some grains of pumice stones in order to help ebullition.
The distillation flask is connected with a refrigeration system at the extremity of which there is an ampoule dipped into a beaker containing 25 ml 0, IN 104 and the Taschiri indicator (Methyl red + Methylene blue) added to it.
Pass an alkaline medium in the distillation flask in the presence of Phenophthalene adding about 50 ml of Soda ash by means of a funnel with long stem and start rapidly the refrigeration.
<Distil it for half an hour>
The Sodium displaces NH3 of NH4/2 S04 formed during the mineralisation and NHs neutralises partially the Sulphuric acid.
Take out the beaker from the end of the refrigerator and rinse the ampoule.
The excess of H2SO4 is titrated by n ml 0, 1 N NaOH till a faint grey colour appears.
Percentage of total Nitrogen (expressed in Gramms for lQOg): The total quantity of Nitrogen of the stock of Osciliococcinum should be within 0.297 wt%, and 0,363 wt%, (Poids ponderable).
<2. ESTIMATION OF AMINATED Nitrogen>
<(a) Principle>
Estimation by formol titration.
<(b) Technique>
Weigh exactly about 1 g. Oscillococcinum in an erlen Meyer. Add 9 ml distilled water and 2 drops of Phenophthalene. Neutralise by 0,1 N Caustic soda in the presence of a drop of Phenophthalene till there is a very pale pink colouration.
Add this formol to the preceding liquid, there is colouration.
Titrate then the acid liberated by 0-1 NaOH put in a flask till there is a clear red colour in comparison to the standard: 10 ml of formol. 15 ml of distilled water. 2 drops of Phenophthalene.
Add 0, 1 N NaOH till there is a rosy colour add again 0,2 to 0,3 ml to obtain the clear red colouration.
Let n be the number of millilitres used: Amino nitrogen (expressed in g. for 100g) 0.1401., n/p
The quantity of Aminated nitrogen should be between O.207 wt% and 0.253 wt%. (P/P).
<3. Proportion OF AMINATED Nitrogen>
The ratio: Aminated nitrogen/total nitrogen should be of 0.7+0.1.
<4. ESTIMATION OF The TYROSINE >
<(a) Principle>
(J. Loiseleur-Chemical estimation on proteins).
The phenolic group of Tyrosine is calorimetrically measured by means of Follin's reagent.
The final solution in which the colouration is developed should be at a pH between 7,1 and 7,6.
<(b) Technique>
Necessary reagents:
1. Follin's reagent is dissolved in a distillation flask of 1,500 c.c. capacity containing:
Tungstate of Sodium Na2W04 2H20. ..1OOg.
Sodium Molybdate Na2Mo04 2H20. ..25g.
Water... ... ... ...700 cc.
To this add: Phosphoric acid 85% 50 cc.
Concentrated hydrochloric acid 100 cc.
Now connect this flask to a reflux system with a condenser by means of a. cork stopper and boil on slow heat for 10 hours.
Then add 150 g of Lithium sulphate, 50 cc. of water and some drops of liquid Bromide.
This mixture is boiled, after separating the refrigerator, for about 15 mts. to dispose of the excess of Bromide and cooled down to 1 litre.
It is filtered.
The remaining reagent should not have a greenish colour, which will indicate the presence of the products of blue reduction.
The reagent should be kept in dust-proof atmosphere because the organic products are apt to produce some little reductions.
2. The buffer of alkaline Phosphate of J.J. Perez.
P04HK2 0, 5 M.........50 cc.
NaOH N .........4 cc.
3. Standard solution of Tyrosine * 0,50%.
This solution is prepared by the dissolution of 0,5 g of Tyrosine, dried over P205 in 100 cc of N/2 S04H2. Method of operation:
Mix lg of Stock for estimation with:
10 cc of water.
6 cc of Sodium chloride N/IO.
3 cc of Follin's reagent at 1/3.
5 cc of Alkaline phosphate.
Leave the solution for 3 to 4 hours at the ambiant temperature and take calorimetric reading comparatively with reference to 1 gr of titrated Tyrosine solution treated in the same solution.
Percentage of Tyrosine in G % (P/P) 0.5, DE/DT, p
The percentage of Tyrosine should be between 0.45 and 0.55 g% (p/pPoids ponderable).
<5. CHROMATOGRAPHIC ANALYSIS OF AMINO Acids>
<(a) Apparatus>
The analysis is done on Jeolco auto-analyser 5AH.
Each experiment is compared with a standard solution of witness Amino acid.
Resins utilised for the separation are respectively Aminex A4 for the Amino acids and neutrals, and Aminex A5 for basic Amino acids.
The photometric measurements are done at 440 and 570 nm and at three sensitivities (the sensitivity of the apparatus used is inferior to 10-9 mole for an Amino acid).
<(b) Results>
Particularly the following Amino acids are characterised: Lysine, Arginine, Glycine, Almine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Tyrosine, Phenylalanine.
The ratio:
Ananine/Glycine should be more than 1. Lucine/Isoleucine should be more than 1.
Phenylalanine/Tyrosine should be more than 2.
The ratio of Argenine, though weak, is relatively constant 4, 5 mg + l for 100 ml of autolysate.
As Boiron laboratory had not the necessary apparatus, this analysis was done by the Pharmaceutical Laboratory of Biochemistry combined Faculty of Medicine and Pharmacy, 8, Rokfeller Avenue, Lyon 8. M le Prof. Gras.
<Sterlity Test>
This test was done on three different mediums for 7 days as described in the French Pharmacopoea (8th ed., 1965, p. 1618).
Peptoned bouillon at 37.
Thyoglycolate bouillon at 37.
Glucosed Sabourand gelose at 24. The search was limited to a verification in male rats of (lot of 10 rats) or stock equal to 20+-2g of innocuousness of the M.T. administered intra-peritonially in an arbitrarily selected very strong dose of 0, 3 ML/rat.
<Clinical CORTICO Visceral PROTOCOL OR Clinical Pathogenesis>
There is no pathogenesis of this remedy according to the Hahnemannian method.
We are, however, trying to give a clinical pathogenesis base on the works of P. Chavanon, our own clinical experience and the case reports of Hui-Bon-Hoa.
<1. Generalities>
Anxiety, paleness, chill.
Sensitiveness to hygrometric and meteorologic changes, Tuberculous patients sensitive to cold. Luetosic subjects with fixed ideas, obsessions.
<2. Neuro-endocrino-psychic System>
Agony, anxious without any motive. Obstinate. &n bsp;
A busy body, maniac, cannot bear disorder, fear of dirt, fear of being polluted.
Has the need to wash his hands very often and is afraid of giving his hand to others for the fear of pollution, contagion.
Is afraid of storm.
<3. Digestive Apparatus>
Tongue white. Swelling of the stomach. Can digest neither milk nor eggs. Putrid regurgitations. Aquous or food vomiting.
Abdominal cramping pains followed by foetid diarrhoea. Sometimes stubborn constipation. Yellow conjunctiva. Icterus or pains in the appendicular region.
<4. Cardio-hemo-vascular System>
Hypotonia. Lipothymia.
Thermoregulation: Bruised sensation, chill, hyperthermia, headache with considerable throbbing.
<5. Respiratory Apparatus>
Oculo nasal catarrh.
Stuffed nose, nasal obstruction, sneezing. Serous discharge from the nose, then muco-purulent. Pain in the frontal and maxillary region. Nasal voice, aphonia, dry painful cough. Muco-purulent expectoration with humid cough.
Pains sometimes as if from needles in one or both the ears (In children, this symptom may not be found. Look at the tympanum which alone may be red at first, and swollen if there is purulent collection). Diminution of auditive acuity.
Retro-auricular pain, spontaneous or felt on pressure.
<6. Uro-genital Apparatus>
Turbid urine, less abundant, deep colour. Sometimes painful micturition.
<7. Skin, Phanera>
Varicose type of ulcers of the legs.
<8. Modalities>
<Aggravation>
By milk, by eggs.
<Amelioration>
By heat, by rest.
<POSOLOGY>
<Dynamisation>
There is only one dilution: 200 (K) (Korsakovian-single phial system). Classically I dose a day is used, or every 2 to 3 days.
At present we advise in acute affection repetition of dose every 2 to 3 hours (see Commentary).
<Positive Diagnosis>
Paleness, asthenia, hyperthermia. Oculo-nasal catarrh.
Laryngo-tracheo-bronchial congestion. Painful congestion of the tympanum. Gastro-intestinal troubles of influenza. Varicose ulcer.
<DIFFERENTIAL Diagnosis>
In classical homoeotherapy it should be noted: Eupat perf., Mercurius bio-iodatus, Cinnabaris. Among the biotherapics: Pyrogenium and Luesinum.
<New Medicines>
<Luffa operculata>
Fronto-occipital headache; acute or chronic inflammation of the mucous membrane of the nasal fossa, lassitude and bodily fatigue.
<Gaulphimia glauca>
Hypersecretion of the nasal and ocular mucous; sneezing, hypersensitivity to change of weather.
<Gatinsoga purviflora>
Morning headache, makes mistakes when writing numbers and letters; stuffed nose; augmentation of diuresis; articular pains, lassitude, feels as if bruised.
<Ginco biloba>
Pale face, drawn traits, numbness and chill. Laryngeal irritation with cough, frontal and left supra-orbita pain.
<Clinical Diagnosis>
Influenza "at the beginning as preventive as well as during convalescence". (P. Schmidt)
Influenza, gastro-intestinal type. Sinusitis, acute rhinitis. Laryngo-tracheo-bronchitis. Conjunctivitis of influenza. Mastoiditis.
"At the beginning of a disease which does not develop". (Schmidt)
<COMMENTARIES>
This biotherapic is a faithful remedy at the beginning of influenza, at the beginning of rhinitis, at the beginning of otitis.
Given early it is very efficacious.
Only in our time it requires repetition which Chavanon did not. To obtain good results in a case which begins and to cut short the manifestations of influenza of general type, or localised it is necessary to use one dose of Oscillococcinum 200 at least every 2 to 3 hours.
Thirty years ago and even in our rural practice it was enough to use 1 dose in 24 to 48 hours.
At present if one wishes to obtain a rapid and sure result one should not hasitate to use it as indicated above.
Fifteen years ago Chavanon observed this fact and said that Eupatorium perfoliatum is to be associated with it.
Now the technique that we have described is more important.
Even the counter-indications have been somewhat changed.
Chavanon is formal: Do not use Oscillococcinum in a cancer subject.
But at present, according to Hui-Bon-Hoa, it may be used in cancer subjects (ex-cancer subject).
In a case which he reports, he had a good clinical result in a patient who had varicose ulcer, only because the patient wrongly interpreted his prescription, "has taken Oscillococcinum 200 daily, three times a day" for thirty days instead of three days as it was prescribed.
So it is the posology which, according to us, was responsible for the therapeutic success.
It is for this reason one should take lesson from the facts, nothing but facts and should know to adapt to facts his method of prescription.
Thus we shall be always among those who, practice the art of cure enunciated by S. Hahnemann.
Finally here is the case report of Dr. Hui-Bon-Hoa published in the Annales Homoeopathiques francaises, 1968, p. 90-938. "Mme S, 82 years, calls me for visit, on the 20th September, 1962. She has, since two years, a large varicose ulcer about the shape of the palm of the hand, of elliptic form, on the internal face of the left leg.
The border is elevated, the base is greasy and sanious.
The skin around is thickened, pigmented and grafted by an eczema, very pruriginous.
The extremity is swollen, specially the foot. A.T. 18/10. No sugar in the urines.
<Antecedants>
Pulmonary congestion, cerebral congestion with the max. A.T. 24; fracture of the tibia 23 years ago, consolidated in a bad position, which has made the patient impotent (the patient is impotent beside obese): eczema on hands and legs since three years; rheumatic pains all over the body; no tubercular or cancer antecedants.
<Individual symptoms>
Obesity, colour like coffee with milk +++aggr.
In extreme temperature, closed room, before storm, fear of storm.
Anxiety for others in anticipation; becomes anxious when her daughter goes out in a carriage.
A meddler and a maniac; inspire of her impotence, she masturbates. "Fear of being polluted" even by her daughter who is a nurse. Terribly stubborn; sensitive to music; cannot digest milk and eggs.
<Treatment>
Carcinosinum 200 CH, a single dose. 2nd December, 1962: Clear amelioration.
The ulcer reduced. Eczema completely disappear. However the patient still does not sleep well.
<Treatment>
Hughe's treatment is tried. ...Carduus marianus M.T. 5 drops every four hours (also recommended by Dr. Windelband).
Calendula ointment locally (Principle and Practice of Homoeopathy by Hughes, C. Ringer and Co., Calcutta). ...We added: Troformone (locally).
4th January, 1963: Called for a visit. No amelioration. Patient fatigued.
As it was the time when we were using Oscillococcinum systematically in the place of carcinosinum, we prescribed: Oscillococcinum 200, 3 doses, to be taken one hour before each of the three meals on the same day.
We stopped the local treatment and recommended only cleanliness.
7th February 1963: Complete cure of the ulcer.
The patient was gay and smiling.
She says that she is in good form and that she sleeps well.
Another detail that we should mention: Having wrongly interpreted our prescription the patient has taken Oscillococcinum 200 daily three times a day till our visit, i.e. to say for 35 days.
In this particular case Oscillococcinum 200K of Dr. Jules Roy seems to have acted more vigourously than Carcinosinum 200 CH.
Finally in his work cited, P. Chavanon relates the following case: In the month of March, 1928 I was called by telephone on a Saturday towards noon, to see a patient at St.-Germain-en-Laye.
I had no time so I refused.
The sister of the patient, thought that the patient was transportable, decided to bring him to me urgently in a carriage at a time which was convenient for us.
At 15 hours the patient was at my house.
He was very pale.
He had 39.5 temperature.
He was shivering though the temperature of my chamber was at 22. The distance could not be covered rapidly because the jerkings were very painful for the patient.
He was suffering from the left ear since 3 days, in course of which the fever rose gradually.
He had vainly tried Belladonna 6, Capsicum 6 advised by Dr. Fortier-Bernoville on telephone.
I examined his ear.
The right tympanum had become swollen to a bursting point having a very dark red colour (as if tumified and infiltrated by dark blood).
The mastoid gland was sensitive.
It was our habit at that time about an otitis-even at that stage, but I decided not to open it.
While I was explaining to the patient, he became suddenly very pale, and was so laid down.
A robust boy of 20 years, suffering atrociously and any allopath would have opened his otitis widely.
I advised the sister to put the patient in the carriage (taxi), which was waiting at the door, take him down slowly up to the pharmacy in order to give him there a dose of Oscillococcinum 200 (which I had not with me) and to continue afterwards the local treatment giving him the granules which I gave.
On Monday I was informed that gradually as the taxi advanced up to the door of Maillot, the patient was feeling well. Arriving at the door of Maillot the patient felt so much well that he preferred to take the tramway in order to arrive at Saint-Germain.
He was feeling absolutely nothing and the temperature came down to 38.2. He was only very weak and fatigued.
Then he continued the treatment.
In the evening at 21 hours his temperature was only 37.5. And the next day when she woke up he had 36.8. I advised to disinfect the nose carefully for some time, then there was no relapse. | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From reni2005 [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-03 |
Hi,
My elder one was yesterday (2/03/05) night severely complaining of stomach pain. She was applying hot water bag to her stomach while going to sleep. After her fever, she has not had a proper food. Complains of headache and stomach pains.
I had colocynthsis 200C. I gave her a dose in the evening and one dose today morning.
Today morning also she was complaining of pains.
The head ache has also not left her. Her practical exams start from 5th Mar.Her fever has gone.
Pls advise. Severely in a fix. Yesterdat she did not study anything.
Thank you,
Best Wishes
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| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From Challa [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-03 |
may be it is exam phobia... give her a dose of anacardium 200... But before that check it out with other members. | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From sabra [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-03 |
Come on, Challa, a little over-kill here and banged twice. Think this would make a better posting for all to read??? Sabra
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Reni, Get some Bach Rescue Remedy for your girls. Half a dropper 3-4 times daily for nerves and anxiety.
If second girl is grouchy and headache, try Bryonia.
Will get back to you this evening, IF I can find you!!
Blessings to you and yours, Sabra | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From reni2005 [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-04 |
Sabra,
Yesterday evening she was sleeping with hot water bag. Night when she went to the bed, she did not use. Complained of stomach pains.
Today morning (4/03/05-11.00AM) she was still complaining of stomach pains, headache about her left eyebrow and cough.
Am scared now. Is it her exam fears. I had purchased picricum acid 200C after reading the forum and waiting to give her. She was complaining of forgetting all what she has studied.
I am not sure of Bach Rescue Remedy available here.
The little one (Sasha) is OK. Just a bit of cough. The elder one is Steffi (named after Steffi Graff)
Thank you once again. Pls check and advise me. Now other than her I am frightened. She is pretty cool.
B Wishes
Reni | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From sabra [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-04 |
Both their symptoms seem more like Zincum Met. Hope you can get some easily. Make up in water as soon as you get it and send them to school with it. Send them both to school, even if the oldest has to go to the nurse.
Rescue Remedy is really common. Should be in any health store or someplace that sells herbs, etc.
You must know that your anxiety is making this worse?? Please adopt a "Matter of fact" attitude and just care for their needs. They are feeding on the anxiety you present.
You might think of having a little talk with the older and point out the fact that an effort now will keep her from having to repeat this time and being embarrassed for not graduating with her class.
I am not an avocate of shame, but sometimes in certain instances it is called for. The effort she puts forth will be worth it in the end!
Tell her she can wrap up every evening with her blanket, but she must attend school. If she whines and acts pitiful, I can almost bet they are scared of the exams. All this will be a memory in 3 months. Let it begin now.
Blessings, Sabra | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From reni2005 [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-05 |
Hi Sabra,
I normally keep my cool. Yesterday gave her a piece of my mind. She said that she is really having stomach pains. She was asking me to massage her stomach.
Otherwish everying is fine. Today her practicals were also good. No problems.
Sabra, what do you think is her stomach problems. My husband initally had given her colocynthisis for stomach pains. Just 2 doses. Nothing better happened. You had advised to give Zinc Met. How many doses and what potency to buy. Is the med for her stomach or for her concentration in studies. Somewhere in the forum there is a posting of mag phos also.
Pls advise.
B Rgds
Reni | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From sabra [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-05 |
In the overall picture, the Zink M is for her stomachache and mind. Do you have a Materia Medica to look it up?
Mind: Weak memory-sensitive to noise-no work or talk. Child repeats. Fears. Melancholia, Lethargic.
Stomach/abdomen: Hiccough, nausea, vomiting of bitter. Burning in stomach, heartburn from sweet things. Hunger about 11am-greedy eating. Feeling as if stomach collapsed.
Pain after light meal, Pain in spot near navel. Gurgling and griping; destended. Faltulent colic. Enlarged indurated liver. Griping after eating.
Brain-fag. Headache of over-taxed school children. Eye symptoms also.
Does this help?
Give 3 times a day for 2 days. If better, stop. Watch carefully. Please report progress.
Blessings, Sabra | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From sabra [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-06 |
Sorry, looked back and didn't say potency...30C
Blessings, Sabra | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From reni2005 [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-07 |
Sabra,
Guess What.. My hubby gave her a dose of Nux Vomica on 5th. She went for her practicals with a bit of stomach pain. She came back and said that she does not have any pain. She had her lunch and then on it was fine.
What a relief. I was a bit worried. Now do I have to give her Zinc Met or will Picricum acidum do.
Thank you Sabra.
Reni | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From sabra [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-07 |
If the Nux was beneficial, what is Q about Picricum A?? Did it not fail when you gave originally?? And why change?
It is not necessary to give ZM at this time as she is showing good signs. Do not interupt good signs.
Always stay with the progress unless there is a neg change.
I am so happy for you!!! Good for your hubby!
Now she will graduate with her friends and all will be better in the future. Whew!
Blessings, Sabra | | |
| Re: Sabra - Child specialist | From reni2005 [Log on to view profile] | on 2005-03-11 |
Sabra,
My daughter is just fine now. Touch wood. studying regularly. Another 3 days for her exams.
I had not given Picricum Acid to her at all. I was intending to give her, and then suddenly she got sick and then postponed giving her the med.
That was one off the reason for asking whether I could give her Picricum Acid. If that would keep her head cool.
Thank you Sabra for the timely help and understanding. Do Let me know whether it is a good idea to give her the med.
Regards
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