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homeopathic system of treatment is modern now

Once upon a time when invention was too weak due to want of more modern way of investigation.At that time peoples were construting building with the help of lime and brick dust called as surki,but now that lime can produce portable cement we no more using crud lime as cement prepared by that lime and gravel produce more strength.No wooden shuttering is being used as this has replaced by steel shutter and unique to use.Presently peoples are not using flat tally for their roof.Everything have been changed and this developing tendency will remain till the end of this beautiful world.In annicient time the diagnosis was emperical but now we can investigate the disease through modern equipments.Our founder of homeopathy sir Dr. Samuel Hahnemann(peace be on him) during his tenure he proved nearly 250 medicines partly or fully and doctor like me using those medicines as per his direction,sometime geting result or not many pharmaceutical companies are preparing medicines i.e complex mixture against disease p/2
 
  Dr.Haran ch malaker on 2007-07-19
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
I convey thanks to Dr.Joe,Dr.Deoshluk sharma,Dr.Mumtaz ali Riaz and Dr David36 for their essential inventions which are a great achievement in homeopathy.I request every doctors of this forum to look over the link below for removal of their old idea of treatment as we can heal the suffering with compound of medicines(i beg pardon if i be wrong) and if the patient remain healthy upto one year then we can think he is free from miasmatic problem.Change of medicine is very simple no harm to use.The following link may kindly be seen.blank">http://oaks.nvg.org/re6ra18.html
 
Dr.Haran ch malaker last decade
One should be open to new ideas.I agree

Similia similibus curantar(or is it Curentar) is the principle of homeopathy.

Now,in so called complex homeopathy where is the essence of this?

Why this is called homeopathy?You can call it by any name,other than homeopathy.

It will be another alternative therapy,like acupuncture,reiki etc.

People are taking advantage of the name of homeopathy, and are trying to take advantage of the reputation it has got, to convince people.

That is what I object to.

You name it as complexopathy, and propagate it without using the names of people like Hanneman,Kent,etc.

Publish your own 'norganon' as I name it,and follow it.

No objection.

What I personally feel is using combos is nothing but another empirical way of using the medicines,and is worse than allopathy.Allopathy atleast has got some standards,procedures and methods.

What did you have here?Take a couple of medicines that come to your mind,give it a name,and start using it.

Are any clinical trials conducted,as to their long term effect?Are those results published,if at all done?Has any approving authority approved them?

Allopathy atleast does the above.That is why allopathy is much better than this pseudo homeopathy.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Brufen(Ibuprofen),voveron etc medicines also give immmediate relief from musle,body aches.The side effects of the medicines are atleast known, and doctors prescribe antacids along with them, to prevent possible gastric problems.

Does it mean they are good?

Similar may be the case,with Bry+Rhustox+..+.etc.combination.

Are you sure there are no side effects?

Are the clinical records of these combinations available to the general public?May be,after a century of usage,and proper upkeep of records,these combinations also can be accepted,not because these are combinations,but because as you yourself said,they might have combined to make another remedy.

But,again it brings out the same point.'X' company mixes 10 medicines, 'Y' company mixes 6 medicines for the same complaint.

Which one is to be relied upon?

If combinations are to be experimented with,by all means go ahead.But formulate a proper procedure,verification,evaluation and confirmation methods.

That is science.

Till that is done,it is nothing but another type of q u a c k e r y.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
The Reckweg preparations and studies to which you refer do NOT in any way represent empirical data that can be used for homoeopathic purposes.

A dynamized preparation of a medicinal substance does NOT automatically make that substance *homoeopathic*, no matter which pharmacy produces, markets or sells the product.

Homoeopathic application makes a remedy homoeopathic to a case.

And that application has as it's foundation: The similar remedy, the single remedy, the minimum dose - and the proven remedy.

All of our successful clinical work depends on being able to clearly follow up the action of the previous dose of medicine. We interpret remedy reactions based on the known materia medica of a single medicine - if we call ourselves homoeopaths.

That's it, basically.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Mr.Murthy,as regards,ibrofen,ketoprofen,indomethacin all are non steoriod drugs.Its main function is to combact pain,if you see the precaution of those medicines there can be found that all above drugs create gastrites problem.It has cleary mentioned in the catalougue of respective drug to use antacid or renitidin for covering formation of excess acidity which may cause perforation in stomach.But our medicine doest do so.Since a decade and half bioplasgen groups of bio-chemic remedy and pentergan,patent like alfalfa,biofungin and so and so running in the market with its well reputation.In my tenure of practice i never heard any adverse action like allopathic drugs,but we allow our hypertensive patient to continue allopathic drugs with our homeopathic medicines,whether is it not complex combination?We are using finding no way silently admiting and showing our efficiency.I congratulate dr.Joe for his best reliable and miracle invention of Arnica and natrum phos and expect more from him.Thanks
 
Dr.Haran ch malaker last decade
I beg pardon from all learned doctor of this forum if i be wrong.A patient come and express his problem doctor i have bn suffering from severe type of pain in my stomach.Firstly i look over his stat and then ask where is your pain, in stomach sir.When you feel better after drinking icy cold water.When it aggravates durin movement sir.What you like to eat sweet mostly,in a little way depending on 3to 4 questions,our medicines phosphorus,pulsatilla,bryonia,arj nit but this simillimum curentor totally failed to give quick relieve of this patient as the selection was done purely emperical basis.I arrange test like ultrasonogram of his whole abdomen and it is seen,the patient is suffering from galstone.Finding this i prescribe1.Cardus m Q 2.Diascorea Q 3.Mag phos 3x or 6x and i adviced the patient to take medicines wd mild warm water ina glass in several times patient get relief instantly but no drug reaction in any patient i have seen as yet. pain completely relieved with that complex micture is it wrng?
 
Dr.Haran ch malaker last decade
Mr. Murthy,

If you kindly go through any Allopathic medicine you will find that every medicine has side effects and dangerous effect on the body which are much more dangerous than the cure.

I agree that all Allopathic medicines give immediate relief but leave definite side effects for the person to suffer life long like allergies to be treated for High B.P. and Allergy for the entire Life and pay to the Doctors,for medicine and to hospitals.

All medicines are to suppress the disease and cut and remove the effected part of the body. This is allopathic science. Where is the cure?

90% of the unwanted surgeries/ proceedures are being performed. There are many website reports and the statistics available in USA.

People are freely dyeing in the Hospitals because of the wrong medicaton. This is in addition to the people dyeing because of the side effects and suffering for Life.

In Homeo treatment it may take some time to identify the right medicine but atleast people are not dyeing due to wrong medication.

No information is available if any-body has suffered or died due to wrong Homeo medicine .

Homeo treatment is a Cheap method of treatment and with lasting relief.

Medical profession Alopathic Doctors have certificae to kill people and their negligence are buried alongwith the dieying person.

Engineers and/or any other expert do not have this relief.

This is the reason that with all odds the Alopathic profession is being patronised.

For Homeo there is no State support for any research expense. No funds are created for this but Billions of Dollars are spend all around the world for the killing drugs/ surgeries and proceedures.
 
Rajendra last decade
Mr. Murthy,

You may like to see the side effects of one of the Allopathic medicine NEXIUM

For side effect please visit the following site:-


http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/esomeprazole_ad.htm


The information is some thing like this :-

''Additional adverse events that were reported as possibly or probably related to NEXIUM with an incidence < 1% are listed below by body system:

Body as a Whole: abdomen enlarged, allergic reaction, asthenia, back pain, chest pain, chest pain substernal, facial edema, peripheral edema, hot flushes, fatigue, fever, flu-like disorder, generalized edema, leg edema, malaise, pain, rigors; Cardiovascular: flushing, hypertension, tachycardia; Endocrine: goiter; Gastrointestinal: bowel irregularity, constipation aggravated, dyspepsia, dysphagia, dysplasia GI, epigastric pain, eructation, esophageal disorder, frequent stools, gastroenteritis, GI hemorrhage, GI symptoms not otherwise specified, hiccup, melena, mouth disorder, pharynx disorder, rectal disorder, serum gastrin increased, tongue disorder, tongue edema, ulcerative stomatitis, vomiting; Hearing: earache, tinnitus; Hematologic: anemia, anemia hypochromic, cervical lymphoadenopathy, epistaxis, leukocytosis, leukopenia, thrombocytopenia; Hepatic: bilirubinemia, hepatic function abnormal, SGOT increased, SGPT increased; Metabolic/Nutritional: glycosuria, hyperuricemia, hyponatremia, increased alkaline phosphatase, thirst, vitamin B12 deficiency, weight increase, weight decrease; Musculoskeletal: arthralgia, arthritis aggravated, arthropathy, cramps, fibromyalgia syndrome, hernia, polymyalgia rheumatica; Nervous System/Psychiatric: anorexia, apathy, appetite increased, confusion, depression aggravated, dizziness, hypertonia, nervousness, hypoesthesia, impotence, insomnia, migraine, migraine aggravated, paresthesia, sleep disorder, somnolence, tremor, vertigo, visual field defect; Reproductive: dysmenorrhea, menstrual disorder, vaginitis; Respiratory: asthma aggravated, coughing, dyspnea, larynx edema, pharyngitis, rhinitis, sinusitis; Skin and Appendages: acne, angioedema, dermatitis, pruritus, pruritus ani, rash, rash erythematous, rash maculo-papular, skin inflammation, sweating increased, urticaria; Special Senses: otitis media, parosmia, taste loss, taste perversion; Urogenital: abnormal urine, albuminuria, cystitis, dysuria, fungal infection, hematuria, micturition frequency, moniliasis, genital moniliasis, polyuria; Visual: conjunctivitis, vision abnormal.

Endoscopic findings that were reported as adverse events include: duodenitis, esophagitis, esophageal stricture, esophageal ulceration, esophageal varices, gastric ulcer, gastritis, hernia, benign polyps or nodules, BarrettÂ’s esophagus, and mucosal discoloration.

The incidence of treatment-related adverse events during 6-month maintenance treatment was similar to placebo....'''
 
Rajendra last decade
I am not advising people to take allopathic medicines. I will be the last one to do that.

What I am telling is about the allopathic thinking with homeo medicines.

More than 50% of the homeopathic doctors prescribe this way, particulary in the Indian sub continent. I know that.

I am also not against the use of organ medicines, when required, but they too must be used singly, in low potencies, and on proper indications.

The problem with some prescribers on this forum is they readily blurt out a remedy name, even on one line querys. Is this homeopathy?

Will you do the same in your private practice? Do you think you have less responsibility towards the patient,simply because, you are giving advice freely?

You will never do that in your private practice. You will definitely ask more questions, think about it, and prescribe after due thought. Why that caution is thrown to the wind here?

Let me tell you that some budding prescribers come to these forums to experiment on gullible people and learn.

They think this is the easiest way to gain experience, with no responsibilities involved. That is why you see a new set of prescribers here every six months.

Once they understand the futility of this exerise, and once they know that this exercise is doing nothing to improve their knowledge or success rate, they simply leave.

That is one part of the story. When it comes to multiple prescriptions of potencies, the question of what you will do if the patient aggravates is conveniently overlooked. There is no answer to the question as to what you are going to do if the mixture palliates temporarily, and no longer holds even if repeated.

Except that perhaps you will try another concoction.

Where as the single medicine therapy gives you various possibilites. You can rise the potency, you can look for a complementary medicine, you can give a split dose. There are so many possibilities.

Will these poly pescribers ever grow to be a Dr.Luc, Dr.Vijayakar, Dr.George Vithoulkus, to name a few?

Never. They will remain in the bottom most rung, and will be happy to palliate for some time, but never cure.

I can go on talking, but enough for now.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
If you are really interested to know how homeopathic medicines too can suppress, and how to know whether you are simply suppressing or curing, read this thread,

The theory of suppression.

blank">http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/87937/

There are many distractions, but that is all of part of history. Concentrate on the useful part.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Mr.Murthy,please dont mind i know you have gained a vast knowlege in homeopathy.Can you furnish me a good reply of my post of gall stone why constitutional remedy failed to stop his pain of stomach?where is the fault.I can assure you without investigation of disease it is completely impossible to bring the patient in order.The day of findings by raising a lots of questions are going to be ended.Now investigation is necessary to treat properly with our medicine safely as our medicine is capable to treat the disease but no single remedy can cure a patient of chronic disease.I have seen the process of cancer treatment using 6 to 12 medicine at a time within an interval of 15 minitues and patients are gaing more or less. old school master has told in their books cancer is no answer that mean not curable.It is a matter of gladness our compound of mixture is doing well.Thank you dr.Rajendra for your valuable comments here.Here we come to give advice to sufferer not for lecture.Every failure show the way of gain
 
Dr.Haran ch malaker last decade
Study the works of Dr.G.V,Dr.Luc, Dr.Vijayakar, Dr.David Little, who are still practicing strictly as per Organon, and see their success rates.

Each one of them have cured tens of thousands of patients, including gall stones, without deviating from the principles of the Organon.

I have cured many people, both chroinic and acute with the single medicine concept.

I wish people try to learn more and stop being dogmatic.

I get reminded of a 'frog in the well.' The horizon it can see is limited, and it thinks that what it sees is the world.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
I am aware of the methods of Dr.Ramakrishnan for cancer patients, but he too never gives medicine together. He gives them seperately, but changes them frequently.

The management of cancer is a different subject. and we will dwell on it some other time.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Yes our best way is to follow organon,its okay.You know the world is running under the command and instruction of Almighty God and peoples are following him in different ways as some one goes in temple beating drum,some one in church,and some one in mosque but what so the performance never goes against God.The learned doctor Ramakrishnan,dr.David little of a world famous physician of Switzerland(though he is not treating patient now due to age)cancer treatment is being carried out with multiple medicines of homeopathy one after another in a day that can be accepted and when we through a prescription of multiple medicine to relieve the suffering of a patient why that goes beyond constitution its makes me laugh like frogs in well
 
Dr.Haran ch malaker last decade
Mr. Murthy,

I am glad that you you will come up for your methodology to treat Cancer.

Now take the case of a patient with headach and he/she needs immediate releif.

Should we start investigating which will take few days to assess and in this situation the patient will go for an Allopthic Pain killer doses.

For immediate relief some anti-inflamatory Homeo medicine has to be given.In case you have some idea otherwise I shall be glad to share it.

Similarly in case of Arthraitis pains often supplementary medicines are given.

As it is not only the organ problem but simaltaneously because of Bone joint dryness there is damage to the ligaments and fiberous tissues apartf rom the calcium problem. There is virus also in such cases.

I would like to have your opinion how you have treated the Ostoarthrities with Rheumatism and swelling in the knee joints.

Similarly viral cases. Will constititional remedy work?

It will take too long through this site to get response of a big list of our method of identification.

Thanks for your efforts to clear our ideas.
 
Rajendra last decade
Giving one medicine after the other even on the same day allows us to choose the second medicine based on the changed symptoms after administering the first medicine.

You can't decide before hand, what is the second medicine required. That is why combining medicines is prohibited even in cancer cases.

Please get the fundamentals straight, before venturing into protracted debates.

Dear Rajendra

I treat many acute complaints, that include headaches.

It takes me hardly five minutes to enquire about the location, sensation, modality aspects and choose the correct single medicine and my success rate is around 80%.

In chronic cases like rheumatism, the correct medicine chosen after taking a complete case, gives faster relief, if you follow the split dose method mentioned in the fifth edition of organon.

I have succusfully treated a few cases, including my own heel spurs, with the methods mentioned in Organon.

The problem is that many prescribers never understood Organon well enough. It has all the answers to all our questions.

They think Organon is a old dusty book. But, Hahn. has already discussed all the variations possible and told us what to do in each case.

I am yet to find a single instance where I have to deviate from the principles mentioned in Organon.

The world famous classical homeopaths I mentioned above, are not doing anything new. They simply follow Organon to the letter and spirit.

When they can achieve roaring success, why can't we cure our patients, by following the same Organon?

Many prescribers are lacking in the knowledge of philosophy of homeopathy, and this is the reason for all these mongrel thoughts influenced by the allopathic way of thinking.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
To tell you about the recent case, my wife was suffering from fever, throat pain, desire to drink cold water, with phelgum in throat and trachea, better by sleep.

Phosphorous 1M in split dose cured her in two days.

I can give many such examples. I never felt the need for multiple prescriptions.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
clever!!

1 1234 1 fever - inflammatory fever 64
2 1234 1 throat - pain 537
3 1234 1 generals - food and drinks - cold drink, cold water -
desire 270
4 1234 1 throat - mucus 225
5 1234 1 generals - sleep - during sleep - amel. 6
6 1234 1 larynx and trachea - mucus - trachea 135



merc. phos. rhus-t. bell. bry. calc. lyc. caust. cham. nat-c. nat-m.
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this is perfect example of a case where only disease symptoms are considred.it is important to note that the change of general symptoms(desire for cold water) occuring during suffering are important and helps in selecting the right remedy in addition to modalities(better by sleep).good case taking.
sajjad.
 
sajjadakram635 last decade

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