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| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-23 |
To Helpthisguy
I believe that there is a pocket of pus just inside your anus which is not draining. You state:
"I have been doing the Antibiotic cream. I have been inserting it, and lightly moving the finger to stimulate inside. "
You may have to exert some more pressure inside to tease the pus out as pus usually comprises dead bacteria which they body is expelling with the serum. A patient on this thread has used a tennis ball on which he would sit after the internal massage and this would bring out a lot of pus with blood. You can try it gingerly and observe results.
The advice you have been given by Overalready is very valuable as it comes from a fellow sufferer. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-23 |
To Overalready.
Your advice is very valuable and I thank you for recording your own progress towards a cure.
It is this type of personal record of your own progress that is valuable as the patients can see for themselves that my Joepathy which has often been censured by some in the past has invariably helped the patient.
I have not suffered from any anal problems throughout my long life of 81 years and it is just the satisfaction that I get from helping anyone in distress that impels me to work out new methods of dealing with problems like that reported by our patient.
I am glad that you stressed the cleanliness factor after a bowel motion and I would advice the use of a water spray to clean up instead of the standard toilet paper which does not really clean the output from the bowels which is laced with choice bacteria which can prolong the infection.
I would recommend that you and everyone who reads this thread will take Arnica 30c in the Wet dose at least once daily irrespective of whether or not they have any ailment which will warrant it.
Thank you again for your advice. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From helpthisguy [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-24 |
To Overalready
The kind words and support from a total stranger is up lfting, Thank you.
Since suffering with this since 2000 of and on, I've become obsessed with getting the pus out. The abscesses would get so bad I would run 102 degree fevers 24hrs, and have a lump that would distort my buttocks, literally moaning in pain while I lay still for days. When it would burst, huge blood clots would emerge and the most rancid pus and blood would spill out. I get to a point of not wanting to relive those events, soooo, I constantly squeeze when I feel it building up and it won't drain.
My fear is that if I do not keep the hole opened, it will back up into my system.
I do massage the area,I practiced this same method years ago, advice given from my surgeon to flow the pus towards the opening. So far only applying pressure on the outside works.It simply will not drain unless I periodically sit on the toilet and apply pressure around the whitehead and pus comes out.
I too have had to use the tennis ball trick when I had a fistula back in 2000. I had multiple tracks that were not draining, and sitting on a tennis ball in a certain way and relaxing the buttock muscles would do the trick.
Trust me... I believe this will help me, and I am following everything to "T". I get concerned when I can't get pus to drain to relieve the pressure and pain. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Overalready [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-24 |
Hi Mr. DeLivera.....I am ever so grateful for you and your homeopathic remedies. I am STILL fistula/abcess free for a few months now and feel great and have no evidence of ever having a problem. Thanks again for your advice and regimen that you prescribed for my nasty problem. I feel if I hadn't sought the route of homeopathy, I surely would have been under the knife of a surgeon. It pains me to see people suffer with the effects of a fistula. I unfortunately know how not only physically it takes a toll on your body, but also mentally. Thanks again and God Bless. | This thread continues beneath the following ad.
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| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Overalready [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-24 |
To Helpthisguy.....thank you for your kind response. I am more than confident that you are on the road to a speedy recovery. Mr. DeLivera's protocol is the best and if you follow it exactly as he has stated, you will feel better in no time. Try also the witch hazel...that really worked for me. It dried the lesion up and disinfected it. When my abcess would fill up, the area underneath would turn a blue/purple hue and that would be a signal that it was going to burst. Puss and a watery/bloody discharge would follow. The witch hazel stopped the abcess from forming. I was very diligent attending to the abcess several times during the day. From your previous post, it sounds like this happens to you every so often so undoubtedly, your immune system will heal it up once again. Probably much sooner with using "Joepathy". Good luck and stay positive. A positive attitude will heal you much faster than a negative one. Enjoy the weekend. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From goodgini [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-26 |
thank you sir i will definitely follow the routine | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From jensen0288 [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-26 |
Hello there, first of all I would like to say what an inspiring forum this is. My name is Jensen, and I am 22 years old. I've been battling anal fistulas for the past 2 years. Within the past 2 years I've had 1 major fistula that has been a problem. I've tried the "plug" procedure, which failed miserably(fell out 2 days after surgery). It stayed open and continued to drain for about a year, and then randomly closed. It started to swell and another abscess soon developed. I got it lanced, and that brought relief for a few months. The same thing happened again. I went to a new doctor and judging from what he saw (it was a very shallow fistula) he decided to do a seton placement. So he made a new incision above the old fistula, and looped it through the rectum. The old fistula wound healed and closed and did not bother me. It continued to drain like that, until one day it stopped draining, and started to swell in my old fistula. I was wondering, "how could this be? the seton is in, and it continues to swell." My doctor took a look and lanced the same location where the old fistula was. After he did that, it started to drain normally, but now it drained from two areas, one on top of the other. This continued to drain for 2 months. 2 Days ago, it closed again, the skin was tender enough so i decided to sit in a sitz bath, and rubbed it till it burst a little bit. I fear it will close soon. My doctor says the old fistula may have branched out, and connected somehow. He would like to burn the old scar tissue and let it heal with new tissue. I am reluctant to go under the knife again. Can anyone help me please? it would be much appreciated. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From fortjames [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-26 |
Hi Joe, I have been using your joepathy now for about three weeks. I am feeling a bit better...the pain is very little now after BM. I am hoping for the day when i am free from this sinister ilness....will keep you update. | | |
| for joe ***update**** | From helpthisguy [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-26 |
Hello Joe,
I wanted to report early as my conditions has changed over the last 3 days.
The pus that I could coax with light pressure started only leaving small spots of pus on the tissue. By this past Sunday it stopped altogether. The buttock/anal area feels normal when standing up, no inflamed protrusion sticking out of the skin. When straddled on the toilet, you can feel the knot and the canal a bit. Overall, the pain doesn't radiate the area, and the overall size of the tissue is decreased.
I still have this grayish white head on the surface of the skin, it's a tiny bit sensitive, throbs sharp pain, and has an occasional burning feeling. My Dr said it's the fistula at the head.
I'm still taking everything as directed, and yes including the AB glove.
1) Should I continue the same regiment.
2) Will this discolored white head thing disappear? It's the same color and intensity as it was a month ago.
Thank you Joe. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-26 |
To Jensen
To be afflicted by a Fistula at 22 seems so unfair as this is a problem that affects people much later on in life. You have already had 2 bouts of experimental surgery and are now on the path to the third which we can try to prevent and hopefully cure. It would be useful to get details from you of how your Fistula first started. Did you have any constipation with hard stools ? If yes this would confirm my theory that a Fistula usually originates as a result of the internal laceration of the anal muscles which are infected by the bacteria present in the stool.
However all is not lost and the therapy outlined below aka "Joepathy" will hopefully help you. It must be understood that this therapy is not a quick fix as there are many variables in your path towards a cure.
I shall note the Remedies prescribed below:
Silicea 6x Dose 2 tablets taken twice daily to expel the pus from the lesion.
Arnica 30c in the Wet dose a capful of the bottle taken thrice daily to increase the flow of blood which in turn will help to rebuild the tissue.
Nat Phos 6x Dose 2 tablets taken twice daily after meals to soften the stools.
Ferr Phos 6x Dose 2 tablets taken twice daily to improve the quality of the blood to help heal the lesion.
Antibiotic Ointment like Polyfax or equivalent which is used internally on the tip of a gloved finger inserted into the anus after every bowel movement to keep the bacterial count as low as possible in the lesion.
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:
Order the remedy in a 5ml Ethanol pack in a bottle with a dropper arrangement.
If this is not available the Dry dose in pellets may be use but this is not as effective as the remedy in the original Ethanol pack which can be ordered from the ABC.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake it hard to produce bubbles. This is homeopathic succussion and must be done every time before a capful of the bottle which is the dose is taken as directed.
Report progress weekly. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-26 |
To Fortjames
Do not give up hope. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-26 |
To Helpthisguy
If you are following the guidelines of my Joepathy, you are on the correct track to a cure.
1 Continue the therapy. You can also add the Tennis Ball on which you sit sometimes to see if it can help to promote more pus flow.
2 I wish I could answer your query. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From jensen0288 [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-26 |
Mr. De Livera, ever since I was a little boy, I hated having bowel movements. Constipation was a normal thing for me. So I believe over the course of time, it caught up to me. I began to get blooed in my stool, and soon after, sometimes I would just drip blood, and not even in the stool. I believe it was a tear that started this. The doctor's are not certain but they believe I show the symptoms of Crohn's Disease. And I'm currently on Imuran (Azathioprine). I currently have a seton in and it continues to drain, will this affect your joepathy somehow? | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-26 |
To Jensen
I am glad I asked you for the origin of your ailment and there is no doubt that it was the hard stools that were the cause. I have prescribed Nat Phos 6x dose 2 tablets twice daily but in your case if you do not observe any improvement in the hardness of your stools, you can increase the dosage to 3 or even 4 as this remedy is very safe in use and helps to soften the stools.
I note that you are taking Imuran and that you have a seton in position. You can continue with the antibiotic for the moment and when you observe an improvement in your condition it will be time to stop the AB and remove the seton which is just another experiment. The surgical process can never cure the patient as my therapy which others have termed "Joepathy" can hopefully do.
I note your reference to Crohn's Disease and I do doubt very much that at age 22 you will qualify today although if you had not chanced upon this ABC Forum, the chances are that you may have succumbed in a few years. Suggest you Google Crohn's and report back to me after reading the many articles on this disease if you suffer from the symptoms listed.
I presume that you are a normal 22 year old in your build and that you partake of regular exercise. You must eat a healthy home cooked diet and drink plenty of liquids up to 3 ltrs daily.
Please complete the Patient's Questionnaire on:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/43416/ | | |
| For Joe | From helpthisguy [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-27 |
There is no more pus flow of any kind. None is coming out by any means. The tennis ball isn't working as I don't think there is any pus inside anymore. It's just a tissue mass beneath the skin and the hole is totally closed up.
Do I still take the Silica? | This thread continues beneath the following ad.
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| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-27 |
If there is not flow of pus, we can presume that the lesion is filled up. I was concerned however by your report:
"I still have this grayish white head on the surface of the skin, it's a tiny bit sensitive, throbs sharp pain, and has an occasional burning feeling. My Dr said it's the fistula at the head. "
It is the sharp throbbing pain that is not right.
You can stop the Silicea and use all the other components of my protocol and report how you respond in a few days. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From pupu_2000_2000 [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-27 |
Hii,
I had underwent a Perinial Abcess Surgery this Feb. It took 2-3 months for me to heal this completely.
From June i have been experiencing pain, a watery discharge in the same area. When i consulted the doctor he said I'll have to get a surgery done again for Anal Fistula. Since the first operation was quie painful, I dont want to repeat it again. Moreover i read on the net after the operation also it reoccurs again. I have been taking Ayurvedic Medicines but dont know if it will affect. Need your help..
Thanks | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-27 |
To Pupu
Many patients have discovered that surgery for their Fistula is invariably a never ending process and one patient was about to have his sixth surgery when he met me and I was able to cure him in a few months.
As you would have discovered by now your life post surgery is a painful process and unfortunately this process will keep on repeating itself again and again till the patient is fortunate to discover the ABC forum. I hope you have read the many pages on this thread as they will give you evidence of many cures and also some that have not responded.
I shall now copy the therapy I have pioneered and prescribed to patients who suffer from FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS of the Anus. The majority of those who have used my therapy aka "Joepathy" have confirmed that they have benefitted from this therapy and many have confirmed that they have been cured.
I shall note the Remedies prescribed below:
Silicea 6x Dose 2 tablets taken twice daily to expel the pus from the lesion.
Arnica 30c in the Wet dose a capful of the bottle taken thrice daily to increase the flow of blood which in turn will help to rebuild the tissue.
Nat Phos 6x Dose 2 tablets taken twice daily after meals to soften the stools.
Ferr Phos 6x Dose 2 tablets taken twice daily to improve the quality of the blood to help heal the lesion.
Antibiotic Ointment like Polyfax or equivalent which is used internally on the tip of a gloved finger inserted into the anus after every bowel movement to keep the bacterial count as low as possible in the lesion.
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:
Order the remedy in a 5ml Ethanol pack in a bottle with a dropper arrangement.
If this is not available the Dry dose in pellets may be use but this is not as effective as the remedy in the original Ethanol pack which can be ordered from the ABC.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake it hard to produce bubbles. This is homeopathic succussion and must be done every time before a capful of the bottle which is the dose is taken as directed.
Report your response weekly. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From chispas [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-28 |
Dear Joe,
I have been following the Joepathy protocol since early June. (everything as you listed above in the reply to Pupu). You suggested Iswitch to taking wet dose of 30c myristica seb as I was having difficulty getting any infection out and always had to use a needle. I took the Myr Seb (twice a day as you recommended) for about 2 weeks and although I still had to use a needle to drain it the discharge was much less - only draining twice a day instead of about 8-9 times. You then recommended I stop the myr Seb but contiue with everything else which I have been doing - (Arnica 30c wet dose three times a day, Ferr Phos 6x twice a day, Nat Phos 6x twice a day and AB massage after every BM). However for the past three weeks it has been slowly getting worse and some days I have to manually discharge the infection about 8-9 times again.
Should I start back on the silicea 6x again three times a day and continue with eveything else also?
Many thanks
Chispas | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-28 |
To Chispas
Thank you for recording the therapy you are using today as this saved me from wasting time on referring back to my previous posts to check the therapy prescribed. Many other patients do not think of the time and effort that is spent by the prescriber in hunting down previous posts to track the therapy prescribed when they report their progress especially when it is not reported regularly.
It seems to me that Myristica S is not helping you in the same manner that Silicea did. If you agree with me, you can stop the Myristica and use the Silicea only but twice daily at first and later just once to see how it can help you.
You can also increase the Ferr Phos dosage from 2 tablets to 3 tablets twice daily as I have found that 3 tablets is the most effective dosage.
I presume that you can appreciate by now how difficult it is to treat a Fistula as there are so many variables which are not constant in the case of each patient and it is a matter of touch and go to work out the protocol that will help each individual case best. | | |
| re: for joe | From helpthisguy [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-28 |
In response to your concern that I mentioned a dark gray head that has a throbbing,sharp pain at times. My Dr said it's the head of the irritated tissue of the fistula.It was throbbing because of the swollen tissue and became intermittent as it started to go down in size.
As of today. I don't even have the pain anymore, the gray head is still visible on the skin surface.
I have stopped the Silica. I actually feel really good and am excited that this is healing.No blood, no pus, no fevers and overall, the tissue is not so inflamed. I can still feel the canal of the fistula right up to the gray whitehead when sitting on the toilet, but it's much improved. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-28 |
Thank you for your post. I am indeed happy that we can now classify your problem as a partial CURE which only time can make permanent.
It will now be necessary to amend the therapy you are using today. Please report in detail what you are using today.
You must in any case use Arnica for life as therein lies the secret of your salvation. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From helpthisguy [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-28 |
I am only using:
Arnica 3x a day
Nat Phos 2x a day (after meals)
Ferrum Phos 2x a day
AB ointment after BM | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-28 |
You may amend your therapy to:
Arnica 30c twice daily.
Nat Phos 6x twice daily.
AB ointment can be continued as usual. | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From helpthisguy [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-28 |
May I still take the Ferrum Phos to use it up? | | |
| re: anal fistula- fissure | From Joe De Livera [Log on to view profile] | on 2010-07-28 |
Yes you may. |
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